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Flaoc
Aug 19, 2015, 01:35 PM
where exactly did sega think this was a great idea? better yet if they were going to implement this why couldnt they at least have a feature to turn it off so people cant see what u are doing. i mean honestly if i wanted you in my party i probably would have asked you myself.

plus i mean this is making it difficult to do some things i wanted to do on my own without getting bugged when i happen to be in a bad mood. edit: also will mention i have friends who are also very annoyed with this feature

Vatallus
Aug 19, 2015, 01:39 PM
I think its great. It let me know when someone was lying to me about weekly TAs so that I could dump them like a hot potato. Only time I ever cared since I usually only party with teammates anyway.

I understand what you mean though. I actually like my privacy.

Chdata
Aug 19, 2015, 01:48 PM
where exactly did sega think this was a great idea? better yet if they were going to implement this why couldnt they at least have a feature to turn it off so people cant see what u are doing. i mean honestly if i wanted you in my party i probably would have asked you myself.

plus i mean this is making it difficult to do some things i wanted to do on my own without getting bugged when i happen to be in a bad mood. edit: also will mention i have friends who are also very annoyed with this feature

Because people are too ignorant to utilize the privacy features that they also have.

Honestly, if I didn't want you in my party, I'd restrict joining myself.


Why are you even complaining about this now? It has always been possible for friends to find your current block and your current quest. It has always been possible for you to block people from joining you. Why was this never a problem for you in the past? Why can't you just set a password? Why are you annoyed that people you let be on your friends list are bugging you about what quest you're in?


As you can see, I don't like when people complain about things that they should already be able to counter-act.

Zorafim
Aug 19, 2015, 01:49 PM
...what are we talking about?

Vatallus
Aug 19, 2015, 01:50 PM
...what are we talking about?

About a month ago Sega added the ability to see what the people on your friends list are doing without actually checking the quest counter. You just hover over their name and it tells you in a box to the right. Quest, difficulty, and number of players in their party.

landman
Aug 19, 2015, 01:50 PM
Or you could update the new friend list message feature with your current mod or idea of spending that game session, since they are checking your stat they will certainly read it.

The feature was on PSU, not strange at all to see it back (on xbox live profile it would even say with how many people you were playing and the name of the mission).

Flaoc
Aug 19, 2015, 01:51 PM
Because people are too ignorant to utilize the privacy features that they also have.

Honestly, if I didn't want you in my party, I'd restrict joining myself.

cause i totally dont do that or anything... the issue is they can see what u are doing no matter where they are and pester and full blocking outsiders with passwords and team/friends only combined isnt gonna do anything about that




The feature was on PSU, not strange at all to see it back (on xbox live profile it would even say with how many people you were playing and the name of the mission).

at least xbl had appear offline if u felt u needed some alone time

Qualia
Aug 19, 2015, 01:58 PM
Unfriend ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Chdata
Aug 19, 2015, 01:59 PM
cause i totally dont do that or anything... the issue is they can see what u are doing no matter where they are and pester and full blocking outsiders with passwords and team/friends only combined isnt gonna do anything about that




at least xbl had appear offline if u felt u needed some alone time

You could set your friend message (the one you define yourself that friends can read) to explain your situation as you see fit, and train your friends to actually read it and take heed of it.

Lack of appear offline type things does suck.

Vatallus
Aug 19, 2015, 02:07 PM
My friends actually don't invite themselves into my party which is neat. I usually have it set to friends only but they are still courteous enough to ask. It is about the people you know and consider "friends".

That said to explain my situation above someone that I essentially asked to leave my team because they were causing problems due to their friend "feeling offended" and leaving the team. Offended over something that didn't involve them I should mention. Decided they want to "fix our friendship". So I partied with them for about 2 weeks. 3rd week when it was time for TAs they claimed they just got home from the hospital and didn't know about TAs.

Which is fine, things like that can wait it isn't a big deal for most people. So I logged off for about an hour to play something else. Come back and they were running TAs. :wacko:

That "fixing" of friendship didn't last very long. Went back to running with my usual team. At least now I can go back to getting 500 FUN tickets from the weekly TA rankings since we are just casual players.

Telling me no is fine. Lying to me isn't fine.

jooozek
Aug 19, 2015, 02:13 PM
good that i dont have friends :-?

femme fatale
Aug 19, 2015, 03:13 PM
tfw no friends

GHNeko
Aug 19, 2015, 03:17 PM
Must be a slow day today if this is what is being complained about.

Stickboy
Aug 19, 2015, 03:19 PM
i dont really see the problem though

Lumpen Thingy
Aug 19, 2015, 03:34 PM
Well now I'm going to have to start spying on you so be careful. :wacko:

Asuka~
Aug 19, 2015, 03:47 PM
Well now I'm going to have to start spying on you so be careful. :wacko:

Wow. Spy on me as well. thx

The Walrus
Aug 19, 2015, 03:57 PM
only really play with like 3 other people myself so not an issue for me >.>

bagtransient
Aug 19, 2015, 03:59 PM
So regarding this (kinda), are there casino games that remove your sprite from the casino lobby when you are playing them? If so you could always hide in the Casino lobby...

RadiantLegend
Aug 19, 2015, 04:07 PM
If you add me as a friend I will join your game unless it has a password, then I'll just ask for it. Benefits of having my partner card.

Z-0
Aug 19, 2015, 04:25 PM
Personally I think this feature was much needed as I can now advertise parties that I'm hosting to friends. The option to turn it off is not something I'm against, but this was definitely more of a positive feature than a negative one.

If people are going to harrass you about joining that thing you're doing when you say no, they're not really people you want to be friends with, is it?

[Ayumi]
Aug 19, 2015, 04:40 PM
I really don't see the problem.

Password the game.
Tell people you're soloing now.
Tell them you're not in the mood.
Blacklist them for a while so you show up offline.
Set your status to away or something.

I don't see the problem here.

Zorafim
Aug 19, 2015, 04:49 PM
This is actually really convenient. Now I can, theoretically, log in, and join my friends without asking everyone what they're doing.

[Ayumi]
Aug 19, 2015, 05:03 PM
Must be a slow day today if this is what is being complained about.

All boosts are gone.
No new updates this week.
No new clothing or items.
No new quests.

etc etc etc. Yeah it's a slow week.

red1228
Aug 19, 2015, 05:58 PM
Personally I think this feature was much needed as I can now advertise parties that I'm hosting to friends. The option to turn it off is not something I'm against, but this was definitely more of a positive feature than a negative one.

If people are going to harrass you about joining that thing you're doing when you say no, they're not really people you want to be friends with, is it?


;3284725']I really don't see the problem.

Password the game.
Tell people you're soloing now.
Tell them you're not in the mood.
Blacklist them for a while so you show up offline. (Bit of an OverReaction isn't it?)
Set your status to away or something.

I don't see the problem here.


;3284730']All boosts are gone.
No new updates this week.
No new clothing or items.
No new quests.

etc etc etc. Yeah it's a slow week.
...pretty much all of that.

DRIGZ
Aug 19, 2015, 06:31 PM
You can make friends in this game? :O

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u159/BlazinBro/Random/PIN-FOREVERALONE-01_zpszcegqizg.jpg

The Walrus
Aug 19, 2015, 07:05 PM
nude patch for casts when

Utterly Vile
Aug 19, 2015, 07:36 PM
Honestly, I don't even understand the word in light of the worlds mind set today. The word "friend" is highly over used, and very misunderstood. But simply B-list them for a few days, and then unlist them when your ready to socialize again.....(it's the internet):-?

[Ayumi]
Aug 19, 2015, 07:41 PM
...pretty much all of that.

Not really an overreaction. I mean like... if you really don't want certain people to see you online or not see you in missions or you want to be left alone...
you could do something as insane as blacklisting everyone if you wanted to do that.

Wouldn't recommend of course... especially if you already got many names on the blacklist.

KazukiQZ
Aug 19, 2015, 08:30 PM
Like someone had mentioned before, something simple as 'I wanna have some alone time for now, thank you for understanding' in the Friend Message, is good enough xD

If they still bother you too much like 'Hey wanna join my stuff? please join join join! Your stuff is irrelevant, so join mine' then, they aren't really friend, more of a opportunist =w=

red1228
Aug 19, 2015, 09:00 PM
;3284767']Not really an overreaction. I mean like... if you really don't want certain people to see you online or not see you in missions or you want to be left alone...
you could do something as insane as blacklisting everyone if you wanted to do that.

Wouldn't recommend of course... especially if you already got many names on the blacklist.

To each their own / whatever floats your boat.

I personally am of the mindset that when I blacklist someone, its to permanently avoid interacting with them. I don't use it as a "time out button". I don't arbitrarily add people for one-time encounters. Like some other posters have said: If they're bugging me enough that warrants a blacklist, then they weren't really my friends in the first place.

But that's just me.

Crowz
Aug 19, 2015, 09:20 PM
Well, to me it can both good and bad.

I'm not sure how the community is on Ship 2, since I'm on Ship 6.

Its useful for me to check if what are my friends running, if they're already doing TAs/ExQs etc. But since most of my friends are my Team members, and I tend to bring 3 Friend Partners whenever I decide to solo quests. And usually the ones who I add as friends are ones who I get along with, or want to try and get along with.

I'm sure some people don't like others knowing what they're doing sometimes, and I think there should be a option to disable that function to prevent others from seeing what you're doing.

And I know some people add others as 'Friends' just to get acquainted, or for easy whispers if you're not in a team when you want someone to run TAs/CQs/ExQs with or smth.

LunaSolstice
Aug 19, 2015, 09:33 PM
I think its a good feature but never saw it as spying since people on my friends list don't bug me like described in this thread lol

Vintasticvin
Aug 19, 2015, 09:43 PM
This feature is pretty great because it help me track down senpai/s and hope I can get them to finally notice me.

Kondibon
Aug 19, 2015, 10:18 PM
I have no friends so I haven't had a problem. :wacko:

I can see why people would though. Which is why I have no friends in the first place.

GoldenFalcon
Aug 19, 2015, 11:01 PM
I have no friends so I haven't had a problem. :wacko:

I can see why people would though. Which is why I have no friends in the first place.

./sad

Utterly Vile
Aug 20, 2015, 01:54 AM
Back during PSU days once you hit my B-list you stayed there with no exceptions. And I kept my room locked to keep the ever nosy creeper from showing up in your room sitting on your bed just as you've logged in scenario. Now I utilize it as just a toggle feature, if and when it is required.
So just simply lock your runs, and ignore... Or just B-list and unlist as you see fit.

TaigaUC
Aug 20, 2015, 02:07 AM
I'm never doing anything anyone would want to join. Mostly idling in the lobby.
If it's EQs, even if they wanted to join me, they can't, because of all the blocks being full.

That being said, a general hide from everyone option would be nice.
Sometimes I want to log in, pick up shit then log off, and I worry people might think I'm being a jerk for not saying hi.
Fortunately, the people on my friends list have been very understanding and reasonable.
Of course, that's not including that guy who pretended to be nice and blacklisted me for no reason.
If I knew he was a crazy egomaniac asshole, I would have avoided friending him to begin with.

More importantly, I really need a previous login date feature.
I'm sure it'd help clear out 80% of my friends list.
Either that, or they should let people register friend partners without taking up friend list space.

.Jack
Aug 20, 2015, 02:26 AM
An off option for that would be nice.. Maybe some people can add that on the future suggestions surveys or w/e those things are called.

Sinon
Aug 20, 2015, 02:48 AM
all MMORPGs have this feature

less QQ more pew pew

landman
Aug 20, 2015, 03:49 AM
More than half the people I have on my friend list are players I haven't even seen nor chat before :wacko: they are "FUN friends" lol I play with their partners or send GJ just for the FUN bonus, some of them even do the same, and yeah, that means I usually accept random invites from people, most of the time are novices that used my partner, those usually give me more FUN since their list is small :wacko:


More importantly, I really need a previous login date feature.
I'm sure it'd help clear out 80% of my friends list.
This should be mandatory, at the least for team managers or leaders... I don't even know if the friend list has a limit as Teams have.

Misaki Ki
Aug 20, 2015, 04:00 AM
200 people. I prefer being at the limit, so I don't get as many random base requests.

Kondibon
Aug 20, 2015, 04:26 AM
all MMORPGs have this feature

less QQ more pew pewWhile we're generalizing, all "mmorpgs" have the option to appear offline too.

jooozek
Aug 20, 2015, 04:38 AM
i know an "mmo" that lets you friend people and see what they are doing without the victim ever seeing a friend request :wacko: marvel heroes 2015 (soon to be 2016)

[Ayumi]
Aug 20, 2015, 09:43 AM
Put "Busy, do not disturb" in the "friend message" (should have just called it status message). Anyone who doesn't read/respect it deserves a soft chewing out. Problem solved. I personally love it. It's a nice quick way of seeing who's potentially busy without bothering them, or who might not have a party for the next EQ. If people would actually use the message part of it for more than emojis, it'd be two steps away from being perfect. First step would be an "appear offline" option. Second step would be....



I'll just surround this quote with flowers and sparkles and neon and anything else that'll grab attention. This should have always been a thing.

At the moment, I'm partially glad the feature at least doesn't/didn't exist a while ago as I was off (unwillingly) from the game for a year. Still talk to those I was talking to the year+ back and would think they might've removed be long before if that feature was around.

Eternal255
Aug 20, 2015, 10:30 AM
Someone care to explain what OP is referring to?

Kondibon
Aug 20, 2015, 10:35 AM
Someone care to explain what OP is referring to?The friend list shows what quest people on are doing, and how many are in their party.

[Ayumi]
Aug 20, 2015, 10:49 AM
When I'm alone, am I the only one that bring NPCs with me for either:

FUN Points
Partying with them 100 missions for titles

Just wondering.

Kondibon
Aug 20, 2015, 10:53 AM
;3284932']am I the only one that--
No.
http://i.imgur.com/AEDyXrG.png

yoshiblue
Aug 20, 2015, 11:13 AM
I bring NPCs along all the time. Milla being a fav because she spams Mejiverse and Jellen shot.

[Ayumi]
Aug 20, 2015, 11:18 AM
I bring NPCs along all the time. Milla being a fav because she spams Mejiverse and Jellen shot.

And talking about the whole spy and nosey-ness... I kind of want to know if anyone else has a fave F.Partner.

Mine are Hisuiren and Piranha... because it's... come on. Hisuiren and Piranha.

Kondibon
Aug 20, 2015, 11:19 AM
I bring NPCs along all the time. Milla being a fav because she spams Mejiverse and Jellen shot.[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/I7pHem5.gif[/SPOILER-BOX]


;3284935']And talking about the whole spy and nosey-ness... I kind of want to know if anyone else has a fave F.Partner.
As of right now, Mr. Spock. (and no, I don't say that because Yoshi likes Milla)

LunaSolstice
Aug 20, 2015, 11:36 AM
I typically bring two JP named FPs that spam resta,zondeel and megiverse along with my SP too. Upgrading my SPs units and giving her Xie's 13 star rod was worth it.

Eternal255
Aug 20, 2015, 11:41 AM
The friend list shows what quest people on are doing, and how many are in their party.

That sounds like an amazing idea, why would anyone be worried about that? o.O

They're friends, just remove them ffs rofl. Is it already implemented or in the future?

Chdata
Aug 20, 2015, 12:00 PM
Airin Mikune FP idol 2012-2015

Saelix
Aug 20, 2015, 02:35 PM
I wonder what having english friends that are always on feels like.

all alone on ship 3

Huntchez
Aug 20, 2015, 03:26 PM
I honestly don't see what the big problem is with being spied on. Stalked? Sure. Spied on? Not at all.

I don't mind nor care if friend(s) are scoping out my presence, checking up on what I'm up to and what block I'm on. Sometimes I even get whispers from my friends asking what difficulty am I playing the mission on, and often get "Nice" as a response. Nothing creepy about curiosity IMO.

It's a whole 'nother story when they just barge into my mission constantly out of nowhere, no message, no warning, not even a 'Hi,' just a straight up intrusion. Sure, I like to leave my party open for anyone to join, as I don't care who joins and when or for what reason.
I don't mind the same person joining the first few times, but after that it becomes a little too obvious that they have nothing to do but stalk me. It's even more annoying when I change blocks to join some multi-party and they still end up following, not even for the mission, just to stick to me. -shivers-

I would lock my parties, but I'm not gonna let a few bad apples ruin it for the friends who I gracefully welcome to join due to their positive behavior and awesome personalities.


"Everyone is goddamn AFK on this goddamn block! Wait a minute, a friend! SOCIAL ACTIVITY!!" -Stalker.

LunaSolstice
Aug 20, 2015, 03:36 PM
"Everyone is goddamn AFK on this goddamn block! Wait a minute, a friend! SOCIAL ACTIVITY!!" -Stalker.

The afk part is true though most of the time,which is why I call this game AFK Online 2 alot LOL.

GoldenFalcon
Aug 20, 2015, 04:13 PM
I would lock my parties, but I'm not gonna let a few bad apples ruin it for the friends who I gracefully welcome to join due to their positive behavior and awesome personalities.

Why not share a password with those people whom have awesome personalities?

KazukiQZ
Aug 20, 2015, 07:32 PM
"Everyone is goddamn AFK on this goddamn block! Wait a minute, a friend! SOCIAL ACTIVITY!!" -Stalker.


Haha, dat DBZA reference xD

cragner2
Aug 22, 2015, 08:20 PM
If your "friends" really bother you that much, then be an adult and tell them to leave you alone or that you dont feel well. I dont understand why this is such an issue, If people would grow up and act like mature people who cares if they know what you're doing when, they shouldnt need to bother you if you tell them you dont want to be bothered

ArcaneTechs
Aug 22, 2015, 08:57 PM
If your "friends" really bother you that much, then be an adult and tell them to leave you alone or that you dont feel well. I dont understand why this is such an issue, If people would grow up and act like mature people who cares if they know what you're doing when, they shouldnt need to bother you if you tell them you dont want to be bothered
you forget what % of the internet is anti-social or lacks human to human communication or something. just lock your parties or tell them that you dont feel up to playing with anyone today, nothing against you or anything just would like some solo play time today or whatever. least they understand and when you feel like playing with people just talk to them again normally, not hard to do

Vatallus
Aug 22, 2015, 10:40 PM
I'm anti-social. Talking to people normally is too hard for me and might increase my social skills rank a point or two. If I do that then one of my other skills might lose a point. I prefer it like this and hiss at anyone that gets close to me or wants to socialize.

I hope no one took this seriously. I just wanted to have some fun.

Maenara
Aug 22, 2015, 11:04 PM
itt: the nsa is in ur frendz list, spyin on ur missiunz

HeartBreak301
Aug 23, 2015, 01:01 AM
I like the feature, I can just scroll down my list and see if anyone is doing what I wanted to. Since I never ask what people are doing it's nice to have, and if they didn't want people joining they'd lock the room appropriately. Same goes for me when I'm making a room.

Flaoc
Aug 23, 2015, 01:12 AM
itt: the nsa is in ur frendz list, spyin on ur missiunz

uh oh.. she knows