New Login Stamp System

[the_importer_]

I guess we were all too busy with the patch issues to noticed the kick-ass rewards that we get daily now. Since I'm premium, I got 2 rewards this morning and 2 more just now: 3X Ability +10%, 1 Halfdoll, 2X 15,000 EXP tickets and 10 Large Air Pyroxene Vayu!!!

Wow, SEGA must be desperate to keep us coming everyday and to keep paying for premium.

[Qualia]

10 Large Air Pyroxene Vayu!!!

You're kidding, right?

[[Ayumi]]

To be fair, premium you still get thhe Ability and HAlfdoll if you logged on this morning and now, but yeah I really do like that EXP tickets as I will use on one of my characters.

[[Ayumi]]

You're kidding, right?

Nope. It's correct. And I'm seeing more goodies showing up later on that can be collected. Can't wait to get them.

[the_importer_]

You're kidding, right?

I wasn't sure, so I took a screenshot and used the Japanese Wiki as well as google translation to make sure:

[spoiler-box]http://i57.tinypic.com/2dkyhdk.jpg[/spoiler-box]

大風輝石ヴァーユ

Large air pyroxene Vayu

[Chdata]

lol 10 large stones

[Sumimi]

Translating~

day 1: half doll,
day 2: ability +10%
day 3: exp tickets
day 4: large wind pyroxenes
day 5 > 15: rare drop 250%, half doll, grind success 10% x3, 3x 15k exp, large something pyroxene, tri-boost, half doll, safe grind +2 x5, 15k exp x4, large air (?) pyroxene, tri boost

Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm trying to translate without looking at jisho.org.

Edit: Look below! :)

[reaper527]

I wasn't sure, so I took a screenshot and used the Japanese Wiki as well as google translation to make sure:

[spoiler-box]http://i57.tinypic.com/2dkyhdk.jpg[/spoiler-box]

大風輝石ヴァーユ

Large air pyroxene Vayu


i'm seeing 10 desert and tundra stones on your screenshot too. (lines 9 and 14 respectively)

here's a full translation:

1 - half doll x1
2 - ability grind helper + 10% x3
3. 15k exp x2
4. big forest stones x10
5. rare drop 250% x1
6. half doll x1
7. grind helper + 10% x3
8 exp 15k x3
9. big desert stone x10
10. triboost 100% x1
11. halfdoll x1
12. risk reducer +2 x 5
13. exp 15k x4
14. big tundra stone x10
15 triboost 100% x1

[the_importer_]

i'm seeing 10 desert and tundra stones on your screenshot too. (lines 9 and 14 respectively)

here's a full translation:

1 - half doll x1
2 - ability grind helper + 10% x3
3. 15k exp x2
4. big forest stones x10
5. rare drop 250% x1
6. half doll x1
7. grind helper + 10% x3
8 exp 15k x3
9. big desert stone x10
10. triboost 100% x1
11. halfdoll x1
12. risk reducer +2 x 5
13. exp 15k x4
14. big tundra stone x10
15 triboost 100% x1

And that's just page 1 lol

[reaper527]

And that's just page 1 lol

if you want to take a screencap of page 2, i'd be more than happy to translate it. i'm curious as to what else is on the login bonuses

[Cyber Meteor]

here is page 2:-P
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[the_importer_]

if you want to take a screencap of page 2, i'd be more than happy to translate it. i'm curious as to what else is on the login bonuses

My Google Translate Android App already told me, but if you want to do it for others here, go wild:

[spoiler-box]http://i57.tinypic.com/2960xfc.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Here's a bonus picture:

[spoiler-box]http://i59.tinypic.com/2h5tmxw.jpg[/spoiler-box]

EDIT: When you think about it, 15 days on premium gets you 405,000 EXP :)

[reaper527]

here is page 2:-P
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16 - half doll
17 - ability helper 30% x 1
18 - 15k exp x5
19 - large urban stones x10
20 - triboost 100% x1
21 - half doll x1
22 - grind booster +30% x1
23 - 15k exp x6
24 - large dragon sanctum stones x 10
25 - este pass x1
26 - half doll x1
27 - grind skip -> 5 x1
28 - 15k exp x7
29 - large quarry stones x10
30 - triboost 100% x2

that grind -> 5 is awesome. that's literally almost a million meseta in savings if you're grinding a 13* weapon.



EDIT: When you think about it, 15 days on premium gets you 405,000 EXP :)

it will be interesting to see what happens with the bonuses. i could have sworn when sega announced the change, they said that there would be lilipa uq stones on it, and there aren't. i wonder if this means that they intend to rotate the rewards like they do with casino.

[fay]

I wish they woul stop giving us half dolls. I literally never have to use them. I must have about 20+ stored by now.

That grind skip item however caught my attention. Fuck you lambda grinders.

[the_importer_]

it will be interesting to see what happens with the bonuses. i could have sworn when sega announced the change, they said that there would be lilipa uq stones on it, and there aren't. i wonder if this means that they intend to rotate the rewards like they do with casino.

Well, I'm sure that we'll get at lease 1 rotation since we're only getting half the possible Large Pyroxenes from the AQs, so the other half should be on the next card. After that, we'll see, they might cover other Pyroxenes and rare stones.

Anyway, those Large Pyroxenes should make Zieg's order pretty easy now :)

[[Ayumi]]

if you want to take a screencap of page 2, i'd be more than happy to translate it. i'm curious as to what else is on the login bonuses

More Big Proxs, and the Triboosts are more as they go on, more halfdolls, and muuuuch more exp tickets. The last one gives like 115k exp.

[RadiantLegend]

With all the exp tickets, if we do get a new class, people will get it to lv 75 in a day or 2.

[Sayara]

so wait, i don't get it. is this what the prize collection is instead of the original map?
Will it work the same way? (Prem gets 2, free get 1) stamp a day?

[reaper527]

With all the exp tickets, if we do get a new class, people will get it to lv 75 in a day or 2.

actually, thats a good point. i WAS just going to pop the items as i got them so i didn't have to store them, but i might save them now.

would be nice to avoid vh/sh hell.


so wait, i don't get it. is this what the prize collection is instead of the original map?
Will it work the same way? (Prem gets 2, free get 1) stamp a day?

yup. (although i see that importer's screencap he has 4 stamps already. is the bonus stamp thing still in effect?)

[vaerix]

With all the exp tickets, if we do get a new class, people will get it to lv 75 in a day or 2.

Too bad there's level cap orders, otherwise we could say "GOT 75 AND DIDN'T EVEN UNLOCK FOREST"

[reaper527]

Too bad there's level cap orders, otherwise we could say "GOT 75 AND DIDN'T EVEN UNLOCK FOREST"

we can do the new class on an existing character though, for "went straight to xh".

on a side note, i wonder if these exp passes are sega's solution this time around for the awful grind from sh to xh. with vh to sh, they readjusted the exp tables so that you didn't need as much exp to hit top difficulty. i assumed that when the level cap eventually goes up to 80 that they'd do the same thing and all of our level 75 classes would have so much negative experience that killing a rappy would send us to 78, but maybe they'll just say "we're giving you so much exp for logging on, we don't need to do that again".

[the_importer_]

yup. (although i see that importer's screencap he has 4 stamps already. is the bonus stamp thing still in effect?)

Well I go my first 2 this morning and then 2 more at 11:00 EST. Time (which is 00:00 JPN). My guess is that because this was the first time using this new card, that yesterday's stamps with the old card did not count for the new one.

[[Ayumi]]

actually, thats a good point. i WAS just going to pop the items as i got them so i didn't have to store them, but i might save them now.

would be nice to avoid vh/sh hell.



yup. (although i see that importer's screencap he has 4 stamps already. is the bonus stamp thing still in effect?)


Well I go my first 2 this morning and then 2 more at 11:00 EST. Time (which is 00:00 JPN). My guess is that because this was the first time using this new card, that yesterday's stamps with the old card did not count for the new one.

That was my thought when I got mine earlier this morning and then again when I logged on today.
It was a new set up so because we never logged in for it, it started brand new this morning.
Then of course the game had to roll over again for midnight making it start over yet again making those that got on early this morning get a small headstart.

[Taurus83]

this new login stamp system is like give free item to these people who don't go AQ get stone or no time/lazy lv up character doing client quest to get exp, sega japan really know people who just busy in real life that got little time to play most benefit.

[doomdragon83]

Well I go my first 2 this morning and then 2 more at 11:00 EST. Time (which is 00:00 JPN). My guess is that because this was the first time using this new card, that yesterday's stamps with the old card did not count for the new one.
On a similar note, I got FUN points for logging in after maintenance ended even though I was on until maintenance started.

[the_importer_]

this new login stamp system is like give free item to these people who don't go AQ get stone or no time/lazy lv up character doing client quest to get exp, sega japan really know people who just busy in real life that got little time to play most benefit.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b2/b277d5e4b3997f1861cc64b53f1906564c8303d9d8e37d821d b02098b3551f8f.jpg

[Steel Titanium]

So, i may not be looking in the right place. But where do i find the login stamp menu?
Edit:Found it, had to go to infomation.

[the_importer_]

Those cheeky bastards!! I've just noticed something regarding the Large Pyroxene stamp rewards, they only give you the odd ones, meaning they skip over one every time. The one in bold are the ones on the current stamp card:

Large Vayu Wind Pyroxene
Large Agni Fire Pyroxene
Large Prithvi Earth Pyroxene
Large Indra Thunder Pyroxene
Large Himalaya Snow Pyroxene
Large Brahma Sky Pyroxene
Large Ishana Source Pyroxene
Large Nirrti Ruin Pyroxene
Large Yama Soul Pyroxene
Large Varuna Water Pyroxene
Large Sarasvati Wealth Pyroxene
Large Apsaras Sea Pyroxene

This means that they expect you to clear 2 cards (60 days for non-premium) in order to get 2/3 of the Large Pyroxenes to get 4 Live weapons :(

[Vatallus]

I'm waiting for the +5 Grind Skip. Those things would be very nice since I can use them when building 13*s and not have to buy +7 skips with costumes.

[the_importer_]

I'm waiting for the +5 Grind Skip. Those things would be very nice since I can use them when building 13*s and not have to buy +7 skips with costumes.

Yikes, that's like at the end of the card and there's only 1. I hope you're premium my friend or it may take a while to get 4 of these to get your weapon to +40.

[Vatallus]

Yikes, that's like at the end of the card and there's only 1. I hope you're premium my friend or it may take a while to get 4 of these to get your weapon to +40.

I do have prem but even one +5 skip is a lot of help with how screwed up Ship 9's market is. The AC market is still overpriced while Gal Gryphon completely destroyed the affix market. Lv 3 affixes are dirt cheap making AQs not that great to farm anymore unless Clones or a good boss soul drops.

Which is why I don't really want to spend 20m building 13*s right now.

[Achelousaurus]

Those cheeky bastards!! I've just noticed something regarding the Large Pyroxene stamp rewards, they only give you the odd ones, meaning they skip over one every time. The one in bold are the ones on the current stamp card:

Large Vayu Wind Pyroxene
Large Agni Fire Pyroxene
Large Prithvi Earth Pyroxene
Large Indra Thunder Pyroxene
Large Himalaya Snow Pyroxene
Large Brahma Sky Pyroxene
Large Ishana Source Pyroxene
Large Nirrti Ruin Pyroxene
Large Yama Soul Pyroxene
Large Varuna Water Pyroxene
Large Sarasvati Wealth Pyroxene
Large Apsaras Sea Pyroxene

This means that they expect you to clear 2 cards (60 days for non-premium) in order to get 2/3 of the Large Pyroxenes to get 4 Live weapons :(
They only give us half the stones for doing nothing! The bastards!
Lol, it's awesome.
You can now get live weapons with half the effort. And then show them to Zieg to get more 12*.
I didn't think I would but at this rate I might just farm enough stones to get enough weapons to get some stuff from Zieg.

But, I still gotta say if Sega fixed AQ prices it would be necessary and people would do them far more often.
Too many caps/too expensive and risk resets to 0 every week so once you start you have to keep it up or lose everything.
Which is why none of my friends even bothers starting SHAQs and I don't do it either.
VHAQs still better to farm mod or lvl up.

[the_importer_]

They only give us half the stones for doing nothing! The bastards!
Lol, it's awesome.
You can now get live weapons with half the effort. And then show them to Zieg to get more 12*.
I didn't think I would but at this rate I might just farm enough stones to get enough weapons to get some stuff from Zieg.

But, I still gotta say if Sega fixed AQ prices it would be necessary and people would do them far more often.
Too many caps/too expensive and risk resets to 0 every week so once you start you have to keep it up or lose everything.
Which is why none of my friends even bothers starting SHAQs and I don't do it either.
VHAQs still better to farm mod or lvl up.

Thinking about it, you could get 15 of these:
-Large Vayu Wind Pyroxene
-Large Agni Fire Pyroxene
-Large Prithvi Earth Pyroxene
Pay premium for 6 months and log in everyday and you would have all the Pyroxene you need for all 17 Live weapons and get all 8 of Zieg's weapons as well.

[Asuka~]

Thinking about it, you could get 15 of these:
-Large Vayu Wind Pyroxene
-Large Agni Fire Pyroxene
-Large Prithvi Earth Pyroxene
Pay premium for 6 months and log in everyday and you would have all the Pyroxene you need for all 17 Live weapons and get all 8 of Zieg's weapons as well.

What the fxck. That's amazing LOL. I'll make sure to login everyday then. :')

[[Ayumi]]

Thinking about it, you could get 15 of these:
-Large Vayu Wind Pyroxene
-Large Agni Fire Pyroxene
-Large Prithvi Earth Pyroxene
Pay premium for 6 months and log in everyday and you would have all the Pyroxene you need for all 17 Live weapons and get all 8 of Zieg's weapons as well.

It seems like it would be less than 6 months though.

[the_importer_]

;3288580']It seems like it would be less than 6 months though.

Well, if we still get some bonus stamps once in a while, maybe remove a couple of weeks, but if we don't, then it's 6 months.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17BJwbje2_HEBPSPNs8MPQfqCoUYL7s610bsWV06oR4Q/edit#gid=0

1 month on premium gets you 2 card stamps which in turn, gets you 10 of each Large Pyroxenes. Using my chart, you can do the math.

[the_importer_]

Time to bump this. Bad news everyone, new stamp card is here and SEGA are being total douches by giving out the same Pyroxenes as last time. Don't know if that will always be the case, but if so, that means that you won'y get any of the Live Weapons if you don't play half of the Advance Quests.

Unfortunately for them, my 3 month premium expired during the night. Since I have pretty much completed everything in the game (minus the Live Weapon orders and level capping my other 6 classes), the only way I was gonna renew premium would have been if they would have given us a rotation of the Pyroxenes, which they didn't, so no more money for you SEGA.

So ya, regular player after over a year, feels weird :p

[TheszNuts]

I'm pretty sure the pyroxenes were on purpose.

[Qualia]

Lol complaining about free stuff

[the_importer_]

Lol complaining about free stuff

Beats being submissive.

[Qualia]

Beats being submissive.

Absolutely not. There's no reason to expect more from sega, especially considering how much better the revamped system is. I'm 100% positive they had the rewards set up so you couldn't just rely on attendance for free 12*s. If anything, it's an incentive to get players more involved in old AQ content to grab those missing stones. It's pretty clever, actually.

[[Ayumi]]

The way I see it is that getting one item a day than 1 item every 5 days is much better. The large stones cut down the load on what you need to do to get stones so it's not all that bad.

The next thing you need to consider is maybe it's set up with a rotation? Like the casino or something. Maybe in time those items will change. Can't see them giving everyone just large to the point some might have 999 and have nothing to spend them on.

[Flaoc]

Time to bump this. Bad news everyone, new stamp card is here and SEGA are being total douches by giving out the same Pyroxenes as last time. Don't know if that will always be the case, but if so, that means that you won'y get any of the Live Weapons if you don't play half of the Advance Quests.

Unfortunately for them, my 3 month premium expired during the night. Since I have pretty much completed everything in the game (minus the Live Weapon orders and level capping my other 6 classes), the only way I was gonna renew premium would have been if they would have given us a rotation of the Pyroxenes, which they didn't, so no more money for you SEGA.

So ya, regular player after over a year, feels weird :p

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[Asuka~]

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Mmmmm. Gonna need some French Fries with that. :wacko:

[un1t27]

Stop complaining.

[the_importer_]

Absolutely not. There's no reason to expect more from sega, especially considering how much better the revamped system is. I'm 100% positive they had the rewards set up so you couldn't just rely on attendance for free 12*s. If anything, it's an incentive to get players more involved in old AQ content to grab those missing stones. It's pretty clever, actually.

Economics 101: As a consumer, it's your JOB to ask to get more for less while it's the company's job to offer less for more. If you side with the company, you failed as a consumer. It's really not rocket science.

I understand why they're doing this, hence why I called them douches.

[KLMS1]

Economics 101: As a consumer, it's your JOB to ask to get more for less while it's the company's job to offer less for more. If you side with the company, you failed as a consumer. It's really not rocket science.

Whining about it to other consumers whose ability to affect the matter at all is nil, OTOH, is merely annoying.

Also you seem to be forgetting that the new stamp setup is literally an order of magnitude more generous than the old one to begin with.

[the_importer_]

Whining about it to other consumers whose ability to affect the matter at all is nil, OTOH, is merely annoying.

Also you seem to be forgetting that the new stamp setup is literally an order of magnitude more generous than the old one to begin with.

Consumer revolts and advocacy have never started with individuals not talking about it. Not that I expect anything from this forum or even from SEGA since we're not even suppose to be playing this game, but in the long shot that someone who resides in Japan sees this, then perhaps he could start something on SEGA Japanese forums (wishful thinking, I know).

Also, where exactly did I bitch about the new login stamp rewards in general? Nowhere, as per usual here, people do love to assume and make shit up. I love the new reward system, if we had this a year ago, I wouldn't have bought some many damn scape dolls when soloing to complete every quests and COs in the game. The Pyroxenes are the down part of this since they are basically useless rewards unless your get the others.

[KLMS1]

As a matter of fact you actually are complaining about free stuff to people who couldn't do jackshit about it even if they wanted.
And being kinda holier-than-thou about it to boot.

Also, the AQ pyros have been functionally useless by their lonesome since forever anyway. How terrible of SEGA to require you to still lift a finger for at least *some* of them.

[the_importer_]

As a matter of fact you actually are complaining about free stuff to people who couldn't do jackshit about it even if they wanted.
And being kinda holier-than-thou about it to boot.

Also, the AQ pyros have been functionally useless by their lonesome since forever anyway. How terrible of SEGA to require you to still lift a finger for at least *some* of them.

Oh OK, now that you've realized that I was not complaining about the new reward system and just the Pyroxenes, you've decided to just focus on that now, that's good, we'll just pretend that you assumptions from before never happened.

And you want to talk about being pretentious, try discussing with a consumer who's taking the side of a company for something that doesn't benefit him.

Finally, yes, Pyroxenes alone have always been useless by themselves, but at lease you never ran across them unless you played AQ. If they're only gonna give us half the them, I would have preferred getting something else as a reward, anything else would have been more practical.

[KLMS1]

Yeah, that's kind of what I was referring to.

[Flaoc]

playing the game is hard

sure is

[the_importer_]

sure is

hey hey, look what I caught, another troll for the list.

[Asuka~]

hey hey, look what I caught, another troll for the list.

Add me as well!

[the_importer_]

Add me as well!

I aim to please.

[TheszNuts]

Economics 101: As a consumer, it's your JOB to ask to get more for less while it's the company's job to offer less for more. If you side with the company, you failed as a consumer. It's really not rocket science.

I understand why they're doing this, hence why I called them douches.

Thought this was assumed long ago that Sega doesn't play by common rules.

[AlVaRo0515]

hey hey, look what I caught, another troll for the list.

Hey can you add me to the ignore list? Kthnx :3

[the_importer_]

Thought this was assumed long ago that Sega doesn't play by common rules.

Considering that they always try to find a way to make you spend cash in this game, I'd say that for once, they're not only playing by the rules, they're owning it.


Hey can you add me to the ignore list? Kthnx :3

I haven't got the slightest clue of who you are, but fine, if it makes you happy. People, this is a trolling list first and foremost, not really something you'd want to be associated with.

[AlVaRo0515]

Considering that they always try to find a way to make you spend cash in this game, I'd say that for once, they're not only playing by the rules, they're owning it.



I haven't got the slightest clue of who you are, but fine, if it makes you happy. People, this is a trolling list first and foremost, not really something you'd want to be associated with.

im just a shadow in the sneak.

[Mattykins]

Add me to the list. I wanna join the autism >:T

[RocK_M]

And you want to talk about being pretentious, try discussing with a consumer who's taking the side of a company for something that doesn't benefit him.


Yup them free pyroxenes sure are of no benefit! 8D

There is a fine line between blindly defending a company and debating reasonable reasons on a companies practices against an over entitled customer.

You sir seem to draw the line at a different spot on the difference between consumer advocacy and entitled customer =P

[milranduil]

Considering that they always try to find a way to make you spend cash in this game, I'd say that for once, they're not only playing by the rules, they're owning it.



I haven't got the slightest clue of who you are, but fine, if it makes you happy. People, this is a trolling list first and foremost, not really something you'd want to be associated with.

king of the list . 3. b

[Qualia]

an over entitled customer.

Basically this.

[Tankotron]

Homie, if the only reason yer not renewing premium is because Sega isn't dishing out new AQ rocks so you can get free Live weapons, then yer basically saying you would give them money so you don't have to actually play. It takes like an hour and a half to get 10 stones anyway so oh noooo not a big loss.

[LunaSolstice]

TL;DR to this entire thread=AFK Online 2.


Although even after these new login stamps were added,I don't feel much desire to buy more premium. I stopped buying premium after only 3 months lol

[Flaoc]

Homie, if the only reason yer not renewing premium is because Sega isn't dishing out new AQ rocks so you can get free Live weapons, then yer basically saying you would give them money so you don't have to actually play. It takes like an hour and a half to get 10 stones anyway so oh noooo not a big loss.

but for importer even just simply having to play the game is too hard :wacko:

[[Ayumi]]

Homie, if the only reason yer not renewing premium is because Sega isn't dishing out new AQ rocks so you can get free Live weapons, then yer basically saying you would give them money so you don't have to actually play. It takes like an hour and a half to get 10 stones anyway so oh noooo not a big loss.

To be fair it's still luck. Sometimes hard to get those stones to drop, at least for me. Even with a rare ticket on.

[WEED420BLAZEIT]

Gal Dropped my this. I can 60% my wand now. Only question is, do I keep it ice. :x
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is this an attempt of derailing a thread or...

[Asuka~]

is this an attempt of derailing a thread or...

I wonder haha... Either that or Shinamori-san was too tired at the time and posted on the wrong thread. :(

[Shinamori]

This is a lesson about having one too many tabs open.:x