PSO2 35° Live Broadcast (TGS 2015)

[Manta Oyamada]

http://i4.minus.com/i6umFy0NDaOvb.jpg
http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=6911

Date: September 20, 2015


Time: 12:40 ~ 13:50 (JST)


Official Link Nico Nico: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv232962525
Official Link YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDcer6bXXU8
Fan Link YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5pl61TH2Kc (60 fps and 720p hd)
Fan Link Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/fireswordmrm
Fan Link Nico Nico 1: Coming Soon
Fan Link Nico Nico 2: Coming Soon
Fan Link Nico Nico 3: Coming Soon


Topics


Updates Previews for Autumn 2015
A new Phantasy Star 15th Anniversary Project Announcement
Information about new collaboration
More informations about the PS4 version
EPISODE3 Climax Previews (Dark Falz Double & Profound Darkness)
More informations about Sympathy 2015

[Poyonche]

As usual, I can't wait for it.

Episode 3 climax ?

[Shadowth117]

"More informations about PSO2 The Animation"

Oh boy gaiz. Now we'll probably get to see how we'll be able to use the anime school uniforms ingame in a scratch alongside the show airing! *gags*

I think it'll at least be cool to see the Ep3 ending stuff and the Anniversary Project though. And hell, maybe we'll at least get our first glance at ult amd since its been a fair bit of time since ult lil came out now.

[EvilMag]

Anniversary Project is probably just revealing the PSO1 themed lobby coming in November/December since I believe a PSO lobby event was datamined when this game was still in bata.

[landman]

Anniversary Project is probably just revealing the PSO1 themed lobby coming in November/December since I believe a PSO lobby event was datamined when this game was still in bata.
PSO lobby is already in the game, it's a team room.

[Freshellent]

Are we going to see that pet class thing appear here? I vaguely recall something about it being datamine'd

[LonelyGaruga]

Most likely not since Summoner and the Phantom enemies have only recently begun to be inserted into the data. TD4 and Ultimate Amduscia are the most probable things to be shown.

Probably the new story quest too.

[PokeminMaster]

Probably the new story quest too.
Yeah, I have a feeling they will continue to withhold any substantial information regarding the big boss and give us a clearer idea of the story quest when it comes to the "climax" info. I wonder if they'll show this off, or keep it secret...
[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/x1sVVkb.jpg[/spoiler-box]

[NoobSpectre]

New Story Quest?

[SPOILER-BOX]The Three Heroes/Victors (SEA) fight against Falzs and get wiped out, so now your turn to save da world. [/SPOILER-BOX]

Old school classic plot and taste, but might works well on players.

[Maenara]

Are we going to see that pet class thing appear here? I vaguely recall something about it being datamine'd

No chance, way too soon. It's only just been inserted into the data. Things like ultimate Amduscia have been in the data for an entire year and still haven't been shown.

[TaigaUC]

They didn't list Episode 4 info as a talking point, so I kinda doubt they will talk about Summoner or Beast.
If they do show up, it'll probably be as a 2 second clip at the end of the show.

[Maenara]

If they do show up, it'll probably be as a 2 second clip at the end of the show.

1 second flash screenshot of the 1* Summoner weapon, followed by "PSO2: Episode 4, coming 2016 in December 2017, only 7 years away!"

[TaigaUC]

Naw, I was thinking a 2 second panning shot of the dog idling in the middle of Naberius forest, then it just says "EPISODE 4".

[Poyonche]

I really want that Story Quest to be epic and 2h long Sega !

Don't disappoint me.

I guess that the end trailer will be TD4 or Ult. Amduscia.

[Achelousaurus]

Actually I'm hyped for both.
Any word of new skills or balance fixes for existing classes?
There are rumors about Br and Gu buffs but those are just rumors as far as I know.
Either way no fixed date yet.

[TaigaUC]

Man, I'm still at the bonus story where Melrandia reveals her true name.
Just can't be bothered doing the matterboard. Especially not on 9 characters.
I think I did complete 3-1 on a bunch of characters. Whee.

[Poyonche]

I did all matterboards from 1-1 to 3-6 on one character.

Never again.

[Shadowth117]

I did all matterboards from 1-1 to 3-6 on one character.

Never again.

Envy the fact that there's a cap on how many monsters you have to kill for a drop.

[TaigaUC]

Yeah, I am so glad that is a thing. I just wish it was a thing for everything in every game.
It is essentially the system I've always said should exist for random drops in any game.
I hate random drops so much.

Besides that, I have zero motivation to get drops for sake of advancing story.

[lostinseganet]

"More informations about PSO2 The Animation"

Oh boy gaiz. Now we'll probably get to see how we'll be able to use the anime school uniforms ingame in a scratch alongside the show airing! *gags*

I think it'll at least be cool to see the Ep3 ending stuff and the Anniversary Project though. And hell, maybe we'll at least get our first glance at ult amd since its been a fair bit of time since ult lil came out now.Maybe we will be able to see the episodes ingame?

[Shadowth117]

Maybe we will be able to see the episodes ingame?

It would be cool, but I don't think they ever made the ingame stuff support streaming. I'd kinda want to see it with subs anyways.

Edit: Come to think of it, it'd be neat to be able to use the TV's in your My Room for YT streams etc. like in GMod.

[Manta Oyamada]

Youtube link add

[Poyonche]

Ooooh boy I can't wait.

[Qualia]

http://i.imgur.com/dDRrzPd.png

[Poyonche]

•Information about new collaboration
Meh

• More informations about the PS4 version
I don't care

•Updates Previews for Autumn 2015
Hype

• EPISODE3 Climax Previews (Dark Falz Double & Profound Darkness)
HYYYYYYYYPE

[PokeminMaster]

HYYYYYYYYPE
This is exactly how I feel right now, can't wait to see that climax stuff, however minimal it may end up being lol

[Poyonche]

I just hope SEGA will not fuck up Profound Darkness fight because of people complaining "It is too hard, it has too much HP and its AoE Attack while the background is white is too Dangerous.(the one when it charges right in our face at 4987468 mph)"

[Maenara]

I just hope SEGA will not fuck up Profound Darkness fight because of people complaining "It is too hard, it has too much HP and its AoE Attack while the background is white is too Dangerous.(the one when it charges right in our face at 4987468 mph)"

Don't worry, there won't be complaints since it's a 12 player quest.

[Kondibon]

Don't worry, there won't be complaints since it's a 12 player quest.There's no wacko face. I can't tell how seriously I'm supposed to take this. D:

[HeartBreak301]

:wacko:

[Shady3011]

Envy the fact that there's a cap on how many monsters you have to kill for a drop.

Did they ever buff the rates for the drops from Quartz/Vardha/something on MB 1-7? That shit was a nightmare.

[Zanverse]

Man, I can't wait to see the PSO2 Livestream Crew play like idiotic noobs. :wacko:

[ArcaneTechs]

Oh cool, Thai player streaming on youtube for the stream, now I don't have to go to Twitch and see the chat cancer going on. Good stuff

Waiting on Ep4 stuff, teaser at best, I don't care for EQ only stuff, DF Double will be fun ya but it's not the most exciting thing ever

[PokeminMaster]

Oh cool, Thai player streaming on youtube for the stream, now I don't have to go to Twitch and see the chat cancer going on. Good stuff

Waiting on Ep4 stuff, teaser at best, I don't care for EQ only stuff, DF Double will be fun ya but it's not the most exciting thing ever
I doubt they'll show off anything related to Episode 4 just yet; I think the end teaser will probably be Matoi transforming, if not Ultimate Amduscia or the next Mining Base

[cheapgunner]

Ultimate Amduscia would be awesome to see.

[ArcaneTechs]

I doubt they'll show off anything related to Episode 4 just yet; I think the end teaser will probably be Matoi transforming, if not Ultimate Amduscia or the next Mining Base
Ya thats the basically the only thing I'm really expecting out of this since we are still sorta far from Ep4 but as of the rest of this year, I'm not excited for really anything until Ep4 new class/possible race. I don't get over hyped for Collabs (since im still waiting for Sega to be creative on their own clothing but you know how that is), I dont mind new EQ's but it becomes sitting around until they happend (or scheduled ones only), I feel the rest of this year is sorta boring unless the roadmap they show tonight changes my view on this

[Maenara]

There's no wacko face. I can't tell how seriously I'm supposed to take this. D:

:wacko:

[Shady3011]

Man, I can't wait to see the PSO2 Livestream Crew play like idiotic noobs. :wacko:

The stream's length is too short for them to play anything on air so we are thankfully spared that.

[Maenara]

Ten minutes to.

[Maenara]

Kuron EQ +250% boost or Profound Invasion +150%.

[Maenara]

Kuron won with 77.9%.

[Maenara]

Halloween EQ with Guranz and Gal, Dourumble, new 12*s and 13*s.

[EvilMag]

PSO2 SEA outfit coming to JP.

[ArcaneTechs]

Daggers of Serafi are actually daggers again, ty Sega

[Maenara]

Dourumble drops new units.

New story chapter has new PD boss at the end.

[final_attack]

Weapon boost? o-O

[TaigaUC]

Sounds like it's "Collect rare weapons and it'll unlock titles that up the abilities of weapon categories pertaining to that class."

Weird.

[final_attack]

Sailor Costume <3

[Maenara]

Daggers of Serafi are 13*s. Nox Sword, Nox Rod, and Nox Jet Boots are also coming out.

[Goukezitsu]

Trailer 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6NvnYTcyRM

Thank you as always to all the fan re-streamers!

[final_attack]

Class balance (Br Gu)
[SPOILER-BOX]http://puu.sh/khsSw/024dac1979.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[TaigaUC]

Braver:
Katana gear gauge strength up
Skill point relief (Katana Combat, Rapid Shoot)
Rapid Shoot reaches maximum speed when activated
Katana 3 PAs and Bullet Bow 2 PAs buffed

Gunner:
High time strength gain speed up
S Roll 1, 2 speed up, falling time after attack timing relief
Twin Machine Gun 8 PAs buffed

Other: Photon Arts, action behavior, etc buffed.

[ArcaneTechs]

Fairy Tail Collab

[final_attack]

Fire Knuckle !!!

Seems like I must get that male Ninja costume :D

[SPOILER-BOX]http://puu.sh/khtsT/d3c74cde2d.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[TaigaUC]

I must have those fire knuckles.

[ArcaneTechs]

Those Invade series weps, just what was it you could do at Ziegs for those that require what looked like a fuck load of stones for trade on that huge list

[landman]

OMG Phantasy Star 4 Profound Darkness and intro music!

[Maenara]

Dark Falz Double, Profound Darkness in November.

New 13* weapon series.
Another new 13* series(Different from above) that you get from Zieg.

[PrinceBrightstar]

That Ooze from Phantasy Star End of the Millenium remix was amazing.

Also right at the end was the intro to "Idola" The Strange Fruits.

[cheapgunner]

Ah, that DF astle fight looks a bit more epis now that we get another trailer.

[final_attack]

WB jamming?

[EvilMag]

One of the items needed for Zieg 13*s is 300 Excubes.

Hope you weren't skipping Magastus like me ;_; good news is that these come with 60 element.

[final_attack]

*13 weapons
[SPOILER-BOX]http://puu.sh/khtJ2/d04c8c6cea.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

7th Dragon 3 collab

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

WB jamming?

https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Black_5eb287_771726.gif

[TaigaUC]

I have ~3000 cubes on each account (~9000 total).
I'm sure there are people with even more than that.

[cheapgunner]

I have ~3000 cubes on each account (~9000 total).
I'm sure there are people with even more than that.

....Welp, I dont even have 100 atm. Seems Im s*** outta luck like always....

[TaigaUC]

PSO2ES exclusive 12 star weapons?
King Rappy Suit finally coming, yay.
Vint Jeeker and Over End for PSO2ES?


....Welp, I dont even have 100 atm. Seems Im s*** outta luck like always....

I got 'em from doing Magatsu and Eluther.

[Selphea]

The Invader series evolves into the Zieg 13★ series after feeding it some magical stones.

[cheapgunner]

I got 'em from doing Magatsu and Eluther.

I might have had close to 2k xcubes but I need them for 30% grind boosters for grinding 12/13* weapons. >.<;

[LonelyGaruga]

*13 weapons
[SPOILER-BOX]http://puu.sh/khtJ2/d04c8c6cea.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

The new 13* series is based on PD so much. The rod and sword in particular seem inspired by third form. Does this count as spoilers considering we aren't supposed to know about it yet?

[ArcaneTechs]

The Invader series evolves into the Zieg 13★ series after feeding it some magical stones.
better grind thos Nab/Lilipa UQ stones because thats on the list! idk about Chandra

[ArcaneTechs]

The new 13* series is based on PD so much. The rod and sword in particular seem inspired by third form. Does this count as spoilers considering we aren't supposed to know about it yet?
They showed DF Double and PD, what more are we not suppose to know?

[Meteor Weapon]

Ex Cubes are kinda easy to farm if you're diligent enough so I don't know why are stressing out you about it.

[cheapgunner]

Douuble's Castle fight is gonna be loads of fun.


Ex Cubes are kinda easy to farm if you're diligent enough so I don't know why are stressing out you about it.

Some of us don't have the leet ability of farming them though. ;_;

[Maenara]

Some of us don't have the leet ability of farming them though. ;_;

>run Magatsu casually
>get 80 cubes
not hard


Anyone have some of the update trailers up yet?

[Goukezitsu]

Trailer 2: Fairy Tail collab and more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIG5lcwOndw

Trailer 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JION368n3ww

[Zanverse]

Er, I hear everyone talking about a new trailer with Double and PD? Where can I find that? Or is it just the same teaser from last Livestream that everyone is talking about?

[Bellion]

Invade to Ostia weapons conversion is
Invade Weapons of whatever
100 Caligula Stones
100 Nero Stones
50 Yurlungur Stones
50 Galeru Stones
5 Heartkey Stones
5 Phantom Knight Stones
5 Bloody Moon Stones
10 Photon Boosters
300 Excubes

do this x2 for 60 element!

[Maenara]

Er, I hear everyone talking about a new trailer with Double and PD? Where can I find that? Or is it just the same teaser from last Livestream that everyone is talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIG5lcwOndw

[TwistedShaerk]

Invade to Ostia weapons conversion is
Invade Weapons of whatever
100 Caligula Stones
100 Nero Stones
50 Yurlungur Stones
50 Galeru Stones
5 Heartkey Stones
5 Phantom Knight Stones
5 Bloody Moon Stones
10 Photon Boosters
300 Excubes

do this x2 for 60 element!

Wait Caligula/Nero? Those are new I'm assuming?

[Flaoc]

Invade to Ostia weapons conversion is
Invade Weapons of whatever
100 Caligula Stones
100 Nero Stones
50 Yurlungur Stones
50 Galeru Stones
5 Heartkey Stones
5 Phantom Knight Stones
5 Bloody Moon Stones
10 Photon Boosters
300 Excubes

do this x2 for 60 element!

nty ill stick with ares.. plus watch them not even be as good as they are hyped up to be cause sega

[final_attack]

Hidan no Aria Collab !!!

I hope they have normal looking Tmg o-o And not too pricey please should they implement it T-T

[PokeminMaster]

That use of IDOLA the Strange Fruits made me cry a bit heh

still though, I wonder what they're saving for the end

[ArcaneTechs]

Scarlet Collab, Legend of Heroes, Disgaia5 and one other collab, Sega is just out of control

[oratank]

Invade to Ostia weapons conversion is
Invade Weapons of whatever
100 Caligula Stones
100 Nero Stones
50 Yurlungur Stones
50 Galeru Stones
5 Heartkey Stones
5 Phantom Knight Stones
5 Bloody Moon Stones
10 Photon Boosters
300 Excubes

do this x2 for 60 element!

lol that much

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

nty ill stick with ares.. plus watch them not even be as good as they are hyped up to be cause sega

That might be the case since they seem to want the bigger reward to come from beating impossible RNG odds if the 13*s so far was any indication.

[ArcaneTechs]

red ring rico and flowen outfits

[LonelyGaruga]

They showed DF Double and PD, what more are we not suppose to know?

...the third form. Only the first two forms have been shown.

By the way, what's with the naming convention for the first series? インヴエイド is the name right? Invade is spelled インベード in katakana isn't it? Kinda confused because it looks like it would be Envied to me.

[Koishi]

Wait Caligula/Nero? Those are new I'm assuming?
Maybe those are Double and PB stone

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Disgaia5

Kinda looking foward to this, and only this collab for the possibility of Christo's hairstyle...

Can't believe I said that.

[Bellion]

Yeah, Caligula and Nero are going to be from the DF EQ.
Invade to Ostia, wow Roman stuff!

And the katakana is インヴェイド　
Really, the V thing is a much more modern pronunciation where B pretty much took the place of both B and V sounds in Japan until recently.

[oratank]

oh shit td 4 corrupt ais apprentice df form

[ArcaneTechs]

TD4 underground

infected AIS

Apprentice DF boss battle

[final_attack]

TD4 ? Maybe.
Inside the mining building

Corrupted AIS

new DF

[Maenara]

Underground mining base

[Koishi]

Mining Base 4: INFECTED AIS, APPRENTICE TRUE FORM
HYPEE!

[TaigaUC]

Scary.

[Skornedemon]

Oh. My. God.
Hunar,Angel,Double....My brain...Cant....nope....RIP ME

[starwind75043]

cool so we will get to fight apprentice

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Finally something that looks fun.

[emeraude]

Late but, oh my god, Sailor Uniform! Yesss. The only thing I regret not being able to get from the SEA server.

[Skornedemon]

Someone get that trailer ASAP

[cheapgunner]

lol TD4 is THE anti-noob EQ. Those infected AIS looked serious but that Mega Bug Darker was quite awesome.

[final_attack]

Keyword : ぷれすてよんたろう ?
[SPOILER-BOX]http://puu.sh/khvg1/76c0a3e136.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[PokeminMaster]

Mega Bug Darker was quite awesome.
That was Dark Falz [Apprentice], looked like a true queen of insects imo

[Rakurai]

I'm expecting Killia, Serephina, and Usalia costumes from the D5 collab. Maybe a Prinny suit if they're feeling generous (Though that's the main thing I'd want out of it, honestly).

[yoshiblue]

Limited time team rooms. Hmm...

[TaigaUC]

Yeah, keyword is ぷれすてよんたろう

[cheapgunner]

That was Dark Falz [Apprentice], looked like a true queen of insects imo

Figured as much but didn't have a fancy name for her. She looks like she's about to munch the whole platform your fighting her on.

[Goukezitsu]

Trailer 5: Tower Defense 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu_iakr_C4E

[Flaoc]

im actually hyped.. sega how did u.. wtf

[oratank]

is that the td4 bgm is idola ?

right IDOLA The Strange Fruits

[Flaoc]

is that the td4 bgm is idola ?

yep its a remixed idola the strange fruits

[yoshiblue]

Going to assume Ep IV will give us an "'IDOLA' The Fanatic Viper" remix at some point.

[Zanverse]

That Strange Fruits remix sounded like it was part of that Synphony thing. I doubt that it's the BGM for TD4 or [Apprentice], because it doesn't have the same tempo as TD4's BGM. Hm...

[wssh]

WB jamming?

Can someone explain this?

[cheapgunner]

Seeing that with each new TD they add 1-2 waves, I expect this one to have 9-10 waves, with the darker count on max for waves 7-8 perhaps.

[Xaelouse]

Just a bunch of EQs.

[final_attack]

Can someone explain this?

Probably someone who have the recording when .......

The Castle-like Toys darkers appeared on video, and the ...... persons on stage talked about it soon after (camera's on them)

I only heard something about WB jamming and putting more pressure on Ranger (was saving things).

[Memo]

Legend of heroes collab and it ended up being Sen No Kiseki... OTL was hoping for Sora No Kiseki instead.

[oratank]

Can someone explain this?

wb jamming is for pd fight she can undone or nullify it something like that

[starwind75043]

They were saying in the stream chat is that basically wb will have no affect on double and possible pd

[LonelyGaruga]

Yeah, Caligula and Nero are going to be from the DF EQ.
Invade to Ostia, wow Roman stuff!

And the katakana is インヴェイド　
Really, the V thing is a much more modern romanization where B pretty much took the place of both B and V sounds in Japan until recently.

Ahh, I see, kinda obvious looking again now. Thanks.


Figured as much but didn't have a fancy name for her.

Dark Falz Apprentice literally flashes on the screen as she's being shown lol

All of the Dark Falzes showing up in MBD4 sure is a little confusing story-wise. Looks like Dark Falz Apprentice is immobile like Dark Falz Elder is (for the most part). She'll probably get the same Brave/Wise Stance treatment. Also pretty ugly considering Apprentice (at least in the flashbacks) has vanity as a defining characteristic!

Who would have thought that ARKS had an entire mining base lying underneath the sands? Gotta confess, that's what surprised me most about the trailer, given datamining indicated everything else that existed. Did wonder how a Dark Falz fight would work in a MBD quest, but this answered it. By having everything in a much more compact area. If the new MBD quest uses the music in the trailer that'll be a nice change of pace. As great as the MBD music is, it's nice to have new music.

[Flaoc]

id imagine dark falz apprentice is a 2nd phase with the defense part being phase 1 and if u clear it u can fight apprentice in phase 2

[landman]

Limited time team rooms. Hmm...
Have they confirmed this? Not that it's any different from lobbyes, but still sounds hard, specially myroom colab themes being permanent.

[PokeminMaster]

id imagine dark falz apprentice is a 2nd phase with the defense part being phase 1 and if u clear it u can fight apprentice in phase 2
I think she might just appear during Wave 10 or some such

[Meteor Weapon]

MBD4 music already existed back when trailer of Ult Nab and Facility was shown a year ago iirc

[yoshiblue]

Have they confirmed this? Not that it's any different from lobbyes, but still sounds hard, specially myroom colab themes being permanent.

Not sure. Its just my knee jerk reaction to seeing it.

Ahh, I see, kinda obvious looking again now. Thanks.



Dark Falz Apprentice literally flashes on the screen as she's being shown lol

All of the Dark Falzes showing up in MBD4 sure is a little confusing story-wise. Looks like Dark Falz Apprentice is immobile like Dark Falz Elder is (for the most part). She'll probably get the same Brave/Wise Stance treatment. Also pretty ugly considering Apprentice (at least in the flashbacks) has vanity as a defining characteristic!

Who would have thought that ARKS had an entire mining base lying underneath the sands? Gotta confess, that's what surprised me most about the trailer, given datamining indicated everything else that existed. Did wonder how a Dark Falz fight would work in a MBD quest, but this answered it. By having everything in a much more compact area. If the new MBD quest uses the music in the trailer that'll be a nice change of pace. As great as the MBD music is, it's nice to have new music.

I'm surprised that you're surprised. Given that we have tunnels and how it's all underground. Coupled with all the shipment action happening in Ult Lillipa.

[PokeminMaster]

Also, I could be wrong, but it almost looked like [Apprentice] was inching herself forward, very slowly... perhaps she can consume the platform if you don't take her out fast enough?

[ArcaneTechs]

Have they confirmed this? Not that it's any different from lobbyes, but still sounds hard, specially myroom colab themes being permanent.
confirmed/translated via bumped

[Manta Oyamada]

Live videos HQ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDwXdypJE9pg3nIWyRG4otG1ipOjgq8lM

[Rakurai]

I hope you don't to worry about the integrity of the towers once Apprentice shows up, but with her seemingly inching closer to the central one, there probably is some kind of time limit involved.

I assume she's probably still partially sealed and the tower is what's keeping her from escaping.

[Poyonche]

And I assume she is too fat to move to the tower and destroy it.

Also, those towers looked like big energy cans. :wacko:

[Maenara]

Anyone else notice how the description for the 13* Ostia Sword is blurred out in the update trailer?

[LonelyGaruga]

I'm surprised that you're surprised. Given that we have tunnels and how it's all underground. Coupled with all the shipment action happening in Ult Lillipa.

That's all run by the enemy mechs, not ARKS. All ARKS technology shown prior was a couple of mining bases that apparently don't have high hopes for being defended considering the naming conventions become increasingly more desperate. That's all ARKS does there after all, defend against an infinite number of enemies. It's amazing that ARKS even managed to get a base underground in the first place, especially since, as was shown, Dark Falz Apprentice has been lurking underground this whole time. Even if it wasn't active up until recently or even just now (perhaps the base is newly installed and awakened it during construction or something), the fact that something like that was lying underground is pretty disconcerting if you look at it from an ARKS' perspective.

[PokeminMaster]

Did anyone think of Metroid Prime when they saw [Apprentice], or is that just me?

[Poyonche]

What is the TD4 name ? Hope ? Or something more despairing than despair ? :wacko:

[landman]

That's all run by the enemy mechs, not ARKS. All ARKS technology shown prior was a couple of mining bases that apparently don't have high hopes for being defended considering the naming conventions become increasingly more desperate. That's all ARKS does there after all, defend against an infinite number of enemies. It's amazing that ARKS even managed to get a base underground in the first place, especially since, as was shown, Dark Falz Apprentice has been lurking underground this whole time. Even if it wasn't active up until recently or even just now (perhaps the base is newly installed and awakened it during construction or something), the fact that something like that was lying underground is pretty disconcerting if you look at it from an ARKS' perspective.
So ARKS can build world ships and envelope planets and move them around the universe but digging a hole is too much for them? :wacko:

[Bellion]

Anyone else notice how the description for the 13* Ostia Sword is blurred out in the update trailer?

This?[SPOILER-BOX]
http://i.imgur.com/uIM2aXj.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[oratank]

採掘基地防衛戦：終焉
google translate demise

as you can see surface factory are ruined so this gonna mean all td eq are a fail mission that finally make apprentice awaken force arsk to take down these big can to apprentice place

[yoshiblue]

I can believe it. Considering we have Luther and his Vorpal shenanigans. Where nothing remotely looks ARKs made.

[Maenara]

This?[SPOILER-BOX]
http://i.imgur.com/uIM2aXj.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

Oh, that's bizarre. On 360p the description looks deliberately blurred.

[Bellion]

Yeah, looks like they blurred out the Invade description for some reason.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://mmoloda.com/pso2/image/65136.png[/SPOILER-BOX]
Darkness Soul on the Invade and Ostia weapons, though. Guess that implies something.

Edit: Invades themselves require 100 Caligula and 100 Excubes each, haha.

[Poyonche]

I'm more "surprised" by the fact they immediately put text over those 13* Soul name

[Rakurai]

I really can't help but wonder what the latent on the Ostia weapons is to warrant how ridiculous their costs are.

It would have to be something like +20% damage to everything to make me want to bother maxing the element on one.

[Lumpen Thingy]

I really can't help but wonder what the latent on the Ostia weapons is to warrant how ridiculous their costs are.

It would have to be something like +20% damage to everything to make me want to bother maxing the element on one.

they come max element and +10 lol

[Poyonche]

^this is for Invade serie only tho. :(

[Flaoc]

well if the purified versions are not much better than invade at all then bleh stick with invade i guess? or at least purify for the wep type u want the most

[Selphea]

Invade by itself seems to be a ~200 ATK gain over Ares as-is. The potential could be junk and it'd still be a respectable 13★. With attribute added in, that's as good as an always on Slave potential

Unless it's like Blue weapons and doesn't have a potential in the first place, which would explain the pre-60% and the pre-grind.

[Bellion]

Regarding weapon boosts, there are 4 titles for every class.
Looks to be collect various 10-12* weapons x amount.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

What is the TD4 name ? Hope ? Or something more despairing than despair ? :wacko:

Tower defense: danganronpa.

It's only now I caught on to the remixed PD theme during the fairy tail scratch trailer. Shameful for how much I lost to him in phantasy star 4 :/

[final_attack]

Regarding weapon boosts, there are 4 titles for every class.
Looks to be collect various 10-12* weapons x amount.

It must be a drop, right?

If it is ..... RNG will screw people with bad rng luck ...... making them unable to obtain the title for the rest of their lives ..... And should the weapon they need dropped on un-popular EQ, it'll screw them even more T-T

[Shinamori]

So, I wonder if it's Old Apprentice will be fighting.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Any specifics on those new title reward stat bonuses they shown off?

[Ceresa]

I really can't help but wonder what the latent on the Ostia weapons is to warrant how ridiculous their costs are.

It would have to be something like +20% damage to everything to make me want to bother maxing the element on one.

Their costs don't really seem that ridiculous though. Break it down:

100 caligula/nero, does anyone have a problem getting elder/loser/magatsu stones? No right. Sucks losing 2 more storage spaces though.

50 ult stones, casino/franka/actually playing ult. I've just been throwing casino coins at the lilipa rocks every week since they were added as a prize and have like 80-90 from it. Easy.

15 ex stones, easily the worst part cause ex is fucking boring, but bio hasn't been worth touching for a long time so you should have been stocking up just doing a few floors every week for chroto CO. In the long run might lead to flict affixes becoming a bit more affordable.

Boosters, an evening of CM if you ain't already sitting on the 35k.

300 excubes, 3 Magatsu EM sessions getting 4 runs + part 2

Really, you would have to aggressively avoid playing the actual game part of the game to not have a large amount of this shit on hand, and you just got a pretty big headsup on what you need, and a couple months to fill in the remainder.


It must be a drop, right?

If it is ..... RNG will screw people with bad rng luck ...... making them unable to obtain the title for the rest of their lives ..... And should the weapon they need dropped on un-popular EQ, it'll screw them even more T-T

It's not a specific weapon, it's quantity.

[spoiler-box]http://mmoloda.com/pso2/image/65134.png[/spoiler-box]

That's collect 25 hu main weapons for a 2.5% boost for using hu main weapons as hu main. 4 titles per class. Would assume it goes up to 100 weapons and a 10% boost with all titles. There's something like 50-60 10-12weapons per category so Hu and Fi should have an easy time of it at least. No idea if the classes that only get 2 weapons have a reduced requirement. Should make main classes with 13s more attractive over LB Fi.

[ArcaneTechs]

Despite all this time we have to stock up on stones and what not, you can pretty much assume people will complain and that requirement will probably be cut in half or we'll just hear lazy people whine anyways

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

It's not a specific weapon, it's quantity.

[spoiler-box]http://mmoloda.com/pso2/image/65134.png[/spoiler-box]

That's collect 25 hu main weapons for a 2.5% boost for using hu main weapons as hu main. 4 titles per class. Would assume it goes up to 100 weapons and a 10% boost with all titles. There's something like 50-60 10-12weapons per category so Hu and Fi should have an easy time of it at least. No idea if the classes that only get 2 weapons have a reduced requirement.

Wait, as in that many different weapons? We gotta fill our pokedexes now?


Should make main classes with 13s more attractive over LB Fi.

I can dig it.


and that requirement will probably be cut in half

After release, I can guarantee you it won't be. The backlash from people who got them early would be frightening. It's why slave weapons haven't had their costs changed. Instead, they made the stones a bit more accessable.

[Maenara]

What are the odds that the weapon boost titles will count weapons you've already collected? Considering every weapon you obtain gets added to your Visiphone Weapon Library.

[Ceresa]

What are the odds that the weapon boost titles will count weapons you've already collected? Considering every weapon you obtain gets added to your Visiphone Weapon Library.

One of the old titles that awarded extreme rocks was for # of shits in your visiphone log, so this will probably be similar.

Friend saying stream mentioned they will adjust the amount needed based on weapon type too.

[TaigaUC]

So basically, those exchangeable 13 stars are just another excuse to make us revisit old content while they work on whatever they have planned for episode 4.

Whatever. At least we're getting a few new bosses and TD4.

[Poyonche]

Honestly I didn't expect as much for TD4. I thought we would have to defend 2 or 6 towers (because 3,4 and 5 are already taken), it would be in desert again then Apprentice would get out from the ground but nooope.

SEGA make us fight underground.

Also, Profound Darkness (if it is) 1st form is very ugly.

[final_attack]

It's not a specific weapon, it's quantity.

[spoiler-box]http://mmoloda.com/pso2/image/65134.png[/spoiler-box]

That's collect 25 hu main weapons for a 2.5% boost for using hu main weapons as hu main. 4 titles per class. Would assume it goes up to 100 weapons and a 10% boost with all titles. There's something like 50-60 10-12weapons per category so Hu and Fi should have an easy time of it at least. No idea if the classes that only get 2 weapons have a reduced requirement. Should make main classes with 13s more attractive over LB Fi.

Oh, I thought it's ..... collect x amount of *10 ..... collect x amount of *11 ...... collect x amount of *12 ......

*12 is kinda ........ very rare :/ So I was worried about that :(

Thanks for the pict !! XD

And I guess ..... I'll just hope *10 or above Tmg and Rifle drop a lot once the title is implemented o-o For Gu !!!! XD

[Rakurai]

Also, Profound Darkness (if it is) 1st form is very ugly.

They showed a glimpse of its first form at the end of the story trailer, plus the model already exists in datamining. The one they've been showing off more is the second form.

The fact that the new weapons have Darkness Soul on them along with being based on its appearance completely confirms its identity (In case its datamined name wasn't enough).

[Maenara]

For the uninitiated, this is PD's combat form:
[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/x1sVVkb.jpg[/spoiler-box]

[Poyonche]

Oh, it wasn't the first form I was talking about.

I was talking about the one in space when the background is black with this funji like thing.
To me :
-First form = black background + ugly white rocket form
-Second form = white backgroud + badass black form
-Third form = [SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/ZIAu5jN.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I call the one we saw at the end of story quest "Combat" or "Hunar" form. :wacko:

[Superia]

Late but, oh my god, Sailor Uniform! Yesss. The only thing I regret not being able to get from the SEA server.

Is that coat an accessory or is it attached to the costume?

[Nyansan]

Is that coat an accessory or is it attached to the costume?

Coat is attached to the accessory back in SEA, I doubt Sega's gonna change that.

Edit: also gonna take a second to rant about how this hairstyle
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/npHg4lS.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
is not coming over to JP :T

[Mattykins]

Man, fuck PD and Double. Dat TD4. It looks so intense D:

[Superia]

Coat is attached to the accessory back in SEA, I doubt Sega's gonna change that.

All dreams are nightmares.

[batfax]

So, what's the deal with Rico and Flowen? Concert exclusive goodies/more things to wish I had Ragol Memrories for?

[Maenara]

So, what's the deal with Rico and Flowen? Concert exclusive goodies/more things to wish I had Ragol Memrories for?

Ragol Memories.

[Kondibon]

I just went through everything and I am SUPER glad that android joint body paint isn't in the AC scratch. I need it. NEED IT.

Oh, TD4 was cool too.

[redroses]

Oh look, PSO2 is turning even more into "anime trash the game".
Too bad they are stuffing all their money into even more collabs. I still remember when these broadcasts had actual content to show and not, "look at which anime we are now putting into our game that was once sci fi based".

DF apprentice looked sadly very anti climatic. It's DF elder 2.0 basically from what I saw. I was truly always hoping for something really epic, seeing how long they were building her up.
Well, and DF Double and PD are the only other actual new content they showed which we already knew about, so yeah. Nothing much to say here.

[Meteor Weapon]

Apprentice looked more like this to me tbh

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/phantasystar/images/d/d7/Profounddarkness2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20120519211120

[Azure Falcon]

Hearing that remixed version of Idola: The Strange Fruits during the TD4 trailer sent a chill down my spine, I really hope it will feature during one of the upcoming EQs.

[Meteor Weapon]

No one getting the vibe from this remix?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyA54mOvMEs

[Rakurai]

DF apprentice looked sadly very anti climatic. It's DF elder 2.0 basically from what I saw. I was truly always hoping for something really epic, seeing how long they were building her up.
Well, and DF Double and PD are the only other actual new content they showed which we already knew about, so yeah. Nothing much to say here.

Her attacks look less choregraphed and harder to avoid then Elder's and she's the first Falz with proper minion summons (The corrupted AIS and those other insect darkers flying around). It also seems like you still have to worry about the towers while you're fighting her. Looks a heck of lot more interesting then Elder, IMO.


Hearing that remixed version of Idola: The Strange Fruits during the TD4 trailer sent a chill down my spine, I really hope it will feature during one of the upcoming EQs.

I'd assume it's the theme that plays for Apprentice, because we already have the TD 4 theme in the data.

[batfax]

Ragol Memories.

Damn.


No one getting the vibe from this remix?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyA54mOvMEs

Probably one of my favorite parts of the broadcast. Though it's probably silly to do so, I hope this is a sign of more classic Phantasy Star related things to come.

[Kondibon]

So, I'm thinking the weapon collection titles are going to be based on that weapon library thing you have, not specifically picking the weapons up after the titles are available. So it's possible a lot of people will already have a few, or even all of them.

EDIT: Backread a bit more and it seems other people already brought this up, so nevermind.

[Cyber Meteor]

Those Invade weapons won't probably have any potentials since you get them already +10 and 60 elem (why would they give you a +10 grinded weapon if it had a potent?), still, having one as it is makes them as strong as Ares +20 without PB :-D. However, "Austere" (that's what it's called on bumped) variant, being at 30 elem and ungrinded would definitly have one potential so they're probably gonna be the strongest weapons of the game. Which brings the question : will the weapons from TD4 and DF Apprentice be really good ? SEGA gotta make them really worth, because getting an Invade weapon doesn't seem hard, though we still don't know the drop rate of Caligula (and Nerou). I'm assuming DF Apprentice will give 13* too.

On a side note i'm really hyped for MB 3-7 and Double+PD battle!!! :p

[Zanverse]

, because we already have the TD 4 theme in the data.

I kind of just vibrated a little bit from this. I really want to hear a part of it...

[Vatallus]

Lavos, is that you? I hope at least one other person in the world saw what I saw when looking at Apprentice.

[Kondibon]

Lavos, is that you? I hope at least one other person in the world saw what I saw when looking at Apprentice.
Admitedly I already got that vibe from the first PD trailer because of that weird mouth it had. But now I can't unsee this either. >_>

[Chris_Chocobo]

Dark Falz Double + Apprentice. Infected A.I.S, Rico and Flowen costumes and then. Those awesome remixes of Ooze and IDOLA the strange fruits. My hype is over 9000.

[Zanverse]

Also, these anime collabs are great and all... but when are we gonna get a JoJo's Bizarre Adventure collab going?

[Poyonche]

I'd assume it's the theme that plays for Apprentice, because we already have the TD 4 theme in the data.

Wait what ? Where ? In which files ?

Data is also saying something like(for TD4) : "Going from Invasion (TD1) to Despair (TD3)"

[Maenara]

I kind of just vibrated a little bit from this. I really want to hear a part of it...

Why so lewd?

[Sayara]

Im still hyping about Dark Falz Double (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3292952&postcount=404)
but eh...

The invader weapons look REALLY cool though. Im just a sucker for gold black red i guess. Also the quick squeak DF Apprentince makes reminds me of the scream Zero Suit Samus does in SMash, that quick AH. into vanish. So sort of like Metroid in that sense :wacko:

[Rupikachu]

Im still hyping about Dark Falz Double (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3292952&postcount=404)
but eh...

that double reminds me the original hucast way more than sega's costume lol

[sesiom000]

Dark Falz Apprentice is Metroid Prime LOL!!
The AIS infected looks awesome we will have Armored Core finally LOL!

[oratank]

The AIS infected looks awesome we will have Armored Core finally LOL!

ีvery slow ac(´･ω･｀)

[Saffran]

WB jamming, can someone explain this?

The way it was presented was that it basically would be less efficient on DF Double because they were learning a thing or two while observing us and created something to jam the WB effect.

So chances are (speculation on my part), the damage bonus from WB will be reduced to 150% or so. It will be reduced but not negated judging from what they said.
(Edit : Ichitarô was very cheeky when they said that, he was all "good riddance" under his mic and got chastised by Haruko for this.)
It was done to allow people to get into the quest without caring too much about having rangers around.

Also, it will be a "once only" EQ and if your pug sucks, worry not, depending on how the other parties are faring on your ship, the fight will be easier as time passes by. (A bit like the Sukunahime bonus effects during Magatsu). Plus at the end of the fight, the people on your ship who defeated the boss the fastest will be showcased. (apparently)
PD fight ensues (a bit like the Elder-Luther thing) but they were very vague on the specifics.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

(Edit : Ichitarô was very cheeky when they said that, he was all "good riddance" under his mic and got chastised by Haruko for this.)


The hero PSO2 needs, but doesn't deserve.

[Shadowth117]

(Edit : Ichitarô was very cheeky when they said that, he was all "good riddance" under his mic and got chastised by Haruko for this.)


Ichitaro wins hard for that by the way.

[GHNeko]

DOWN WITH WEAK BULLET!!

[Maenara]

inb4 gunslash qualifies for none of the weapon boost titles

[Cyber Meteor]

They actually said something about gunslashes when they talked about those boosts, but, (i don't really understand japanese enough to be sure) i think they said it won't affect GS because before mentionning GS, they said that the Hunter boost will affect Sword, WL and Partisan only, which implies it'll work for "main class" weapons and it'll probably be the same for the other classes ( DS/TD/Knuckles for Fighter; Katana/Bows for Braver and so on), so probably no GS. Also it seems you need to match weapon and classes, which mean, if you main HU only Sword, WL, Partisan will be boosted but not the all-class type non-HU weapons (katana on HU for example), or a fighter-equipable sword won't be boosted if you main FI.

[Selphea]

;_; poor Gunslash, missed out on last year's melee PA buff and now this year's title buff too.

[Enforcer MKV]

DOWN WITH WEAK BULLET!!

Hell, I main Ranger and I hate WB....

Fuck Weak Bullet, seriously. Hate that skill.

[Kondibon]

So... do people actually hate WB on a fundamental level or just how strong it is?

[yoshiblue]

So... do people actually hate WB on a fundamental level or just how strong it is?

Unlike limit break, WB is basically an easy button. Vol gator and it's bow equivalent have you work off the damage even.

[Xaelouse]

I hate that people drop MPAs when it's not around.
That may still be the case with the PD EQ, since the bosses aren't completely immune to it. It's also been stated that these bosses have less HP than magatsu.
Either way, this is only one/two bosses out of many that actually has some method of countering it.

[Perfect Chaos]

So... do people actually hate WB on a fundamental level or just how strong it is?With its existence as it is now, the game needs to be balanced around it. And for parties to be efficient in completing things quickly, WB is needed. Sometimes MPA in EQ bail if there's no WB. This costed time and a possible extra run count for EQs that people want to do as many time as possible.

Since it's not going to go away, it would be better if it only has a 1.2 multiplier, just enough so that Ranger's class mechanic of dealing damage on weakpoints works with it. If SEGA wants people to use it on parts with less than 1.0 base multiplier, then maybe up WB to 1.5. You shouldn't be using it on enemy parts that have less than 0.8 base multiplier on it, anyway.
But people that know what they are doing will still put it on weakpoints to stack multipliers, anyway, so the even better option is to change how WB works completely and make it change base weak point multiplier to 1.2 (not including element weakpoint multiplier). That'll just make it a utility thing to create weakpoints to proc Ranger's skill on enemies with hard to reach weakpoints (or for things like Banshee, weakpoints that don't exist until a part is broken). This will still allow more skilled Rangers to go for a higher multiplier weakpoint when it's available to do things faster and not have to rely on WB (or maybe they can WB something for melee players to access easily while they go for the hard to reach weakpoint). This would be such a better way to implement WB, but it'll have to be completely rebalanced around, and SEGA is too lazy to do that, so it's never going to happen.
They probably only nerfed WB a bit a while ago because they didn't want to rebalance the game if it were to receive a huge nerf (which is what it needed).

[Rakurai]

The bosses having less HP then Magatsu is a little concerning to me, but I suppose if they make it so they take less damage then usual, it won't be an issue.

Double appears to take no/much less damage from being hit anywhere other then on a weak point, at least.

On a side note, I think that Strange Fruits remix is one of the main reasons I'm hyped for TD4. I can imagine it smoothly transitioning into the song when Apprentice emerges, and it's going to be epic.

[Maenara]

They actually said something about gunslashes when they talked about those boosts, but, (i don't really understand japanese enough to be sure) i think they said it won't affect GS because before mentionning GS, they said that the Hunter boost will affect Sword, WL and Partisan only, which implies it'll work for "main class" weapons and it'll probably be the same for the other classes ( DS/TD/Knuckles for Fighter; Katana/Bows for Braver and so on), so probably no GS. Also it seems you need to match weapon and classes, which mean, if you main HU only Sword, WL, Partisan will be boosted but not the all-class type non-HU weapons (katana on HU for example), or a fighter-equipable sword won't be boosted if you main FI.

Part of me wonders if Sega will ever stop shitting all over Gunslash. Breaking one of its PAs such that it does less than half the damage it's supposed to do, never fixing it. Passing Gunslash over completely for the level 17 melee PA power buffs, even for the PAs that are close-ranged striking-only damage PAs. Creating skills like Bullet Keep and then specifically ignoring Gunslash for its effects. Then literally creating a skill called Bullet Keep Gunslash and then not releasing it for no good reason whatsofuckingever.

And then now this.

[LonelyGaruga]

Invade series names. Please correct me if I made any errors. Main ones I'm unsure of are sword and katana.

Sword: Invade Cleaver (カリバー)
Wired Lance: Invade Wing (ウィング)
Partisan: Invade Spear (スピアー)
Twin Dagger: Invade Fencer (フェンサー)
Double Saber: Invade Edge (エッジ)
Knuckles: Invade Fist (フィスト)
Gunslash: Invade Buster (バスター)
Katana: Invade Gram (ガラン)
Dual Blade: Indeterminable (obscured by text)
Assault Rifle: Invade Shooter (シューター)
Launcher: Invade Cannon (キャノン)
Twin Machinegun: Invade Rain (レイン)
Bullet Bow: Invade Bowgun (ボーガン)
Rod: Invade Sorcerer (ソーサラー)
Talis: Invade Arm (アルム)
Wand: Invade Axe (アックス)
Jet Boots: Invade Slider (スライダー)

Ostia/Austere/オフステォア (what is with the フ, is it silent or something?) series has the same naming convention, I.E. the sword is (Series) Cleaver. Affixes for both series are Darkness Soul/ATK Stat III/Vinculum/Spirita III/Mutation I, which is +60 ATK +4 PP plus whatever Darkness Soul grants. Assuming Darkness Soul is 30 ATK, the upgrades have very high ATK, with the sword having 1615 S-ATK (Ares has 1516). Invade Gripper seems to have 1650 or 1656 S-ATK (hard to differentiate), continuing the assumption for Darkness Soul that puts it at 1560-1556 S-ATK, between Ares and the upgrades. It's reasonable to assume that whatever potential the upgraded series has, it's going to be stronger than Ares, since it already comes close to beating it at minimum PB gauge without a potential in the first place.

As a piece of trivia for anyone that didn't notice already, the Caligula and Nero stones are named after tyrannical Roman emperors, and both Invade and Ostia/Austere have roots in Latin. Invade is derived from invadere (meaning "go into"), which is an easy match for darkers. Ostia is the name of a district in Rome (Ostia is plural for Ostium, which means "door, opening" and is used in medical terminology), while austere is derived from the Latin word austerus, which in turn was derived from the Greek word austēros (meaning "severe"). The naming convention for Photon Blasts is derived from Greek (although Aias is named under the Latin equivalent Ajax in the patch), so I'm inclined to believe that the purified version of the Invade series is supposed to be Austere. The name must be referring to the requirements to get them...

Will make a separate post for taking screenshots from the trailers.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

We need two sets of 100 of what stones from where to buy invade weapons +10ed and 60 ele'ed?

[Maenara]

100 Caligula + 100 excubes.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

100 Caligula + 100 excubes.

I really should be able to recognize the katakana for 'excube' by now...

Caligula is...? Sorry, I usually just call stones by [boss eq/ult quest name] stones.

[Maenara]

I really should be able to recognize the katakana for 'excube' by now...

Caligula is...? Sorry, I usually just call stones by [boss eq/ult quest name] stones.

Either Dark Falz Double or The Profound Darkness. We don't know which.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Either Dark Falz Double or The Profound Darkness. We don't know which.

Ah. Should get back to grinding cubes... just in case SEGA actually wants to break the trend of 13*s being the best at the respective niches with whatever these will do. Might be as good a time as ever for them to do it because this is end-of-ep3-stuff.

[Bellion]

Yeah, the Katakana system kinda sucks, oh boy.
For the Sword カリバー is probably Caliber even though キャリバー is Caliber.
Why? キャノン　and カノン are both Cannon, so I'm going to make the same connection.
クリーヴァ is Cleaver.

I've got nothing on the Katana except that Gram is グラム. They probably want it to be just Garan, who knows.

As for オフスティア the フ sound is between a fu and hu, with hu generally being considered more "proper" in general. For all we know it could be Ostia or Austere. I'm going with Ostia even though オスティア is what it should be just because of the Roman Emperor stones.
We have アレス as Ares but may as well refer to アーレス as Ares too.

I am willing to bet the potentials on those weapons are going to be related to killing darkers, but yeah earning multiple of these are not going to be fun. I think saving 5 13* of the same weapon type to 60 element the オフスティア isn't a bad option.

[Icis]

I've got nothing on the Katana except that Gram is グラム. They probably want it to be just Garan, who knows.


I'm probably missing something, but グラム can't be Garan...it can only be Gram or Glam. And it's usually Gram.

[Bellion]

Yeah, the Katakana for the Katana is ガラン。 So I'm saying Gram doesn't fit.

[LonelyGaruga]

Yeah, what confuses me is what it's supposed to mean. I get that Ryuuga and Kuuga were Japanese and have sensible meanings, but what's Garan? The only thing I found is...an Ultraman baddie (http://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E3%82%AC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3). This feels like YGO's XYZ (Exceed? Really?) all over again. Anyway, thanks for the input!

On the subject of the stones, Caligula is almost certainly from Dark Falz Double. Nero is also Italian (which is a Romance language) for black, so I think it's safe to assume that the Profound Darkness drops it (although Nero in Latin is a completely different word!).

[Bellion]

I think Garan is 牙蘭 as in Orchid Fang or something. The hilt even looks like an Orchid from the trailer. :wacko:

[LonelyGaruga]

...oh. That would be the same ran present in Kanran, isn't it...and of course ga is fang. That's...really obvious when you put it like that.

Whoops~