RIP ship 2 Japanese community

[Achelousaurus]

Do you guys remember when during jp hours ship was full, when not just during eq times many blocks were totally full?

Cause recently the ship is a ghost town during jp hours.
Pretty sure most left for other ships. Can hardly blame them but it's a pity for all of us that remain on ship 2.

[TaigaUC]

I thought it was just PSO2 being boring as nuts right now.
My JP friends and their friends still play, but they're either busy or just don't want to play.
Some got sick like I did.

There're also earthquakes, typhoons, floods and shit going on in Japan right now.
Nico Live was spamming earthquake warnings the day before.
So those may be why some JP players aren't around.

For anyone who might care:

A
2015-09-12 13:38:02 UTC 5.1 magnitude, 60 km depth
Shizunai, Hokkaido, Japan
B
2015-09-12 02:44:52 UTC 4.6 magnitude, 25 km depth
Iwaki, Fukushima, Japan
C
2015-09-11 20:49:06 UTC 5.4 magnitude, 47 km depth
Kisarazu, Chiba, Japan

Japan floods: Three dead and dozens missing in Typhoon Etau aftermath (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/japan-floods-three-dead-and-dozens-missing-in-typhoon-etau-aftermath-10496069.html)

[fay]

It's no wonder when the majority of the English speaking player base is a bunch of immature children that think they're acting like adults by posting picture of tits and the like.

[TaigaUC]

I always thought Westerners do stuff like that because most Westeners go nuts at porn or nudity.
People in general get off on doing stuff that's taboo, or stuff they're told not to.
If that something becomes normally accepted, everybody just loses interest.

On the other hand, in Japan, most people seem to be pretty open about erotic stuff?
I get the impression they don't care enough to react dramatically like Westeners.
One JP friend (not a PSO2 friend) once told me he was looking up Smash Bros skirts when he was very young.
It's normal over there, as it should be. People aren't going to throw a fit unless you're bothering somebody.
Or at least, they weren't as anal about that stuff before. I mean, anime sure has a lot of censorship now.

When I do see supposed JP people spamming nude SA I just block them.
Only seen a few.

It probably also helps that if someone violated the anti-genital law by posting SA of such in PSO2, they would probably actually get arrested.
Probably. I don't really know.

[Etherwolf]

It's no wonder when the majority of the English speaking player base is a bunch of immature children that think they're acting like adults by posting picture of tits and the like.

Implying the Japanese community aren't the ones from which those images of anime tits originated lol

My first time logging into PSO2 was during Jap time, and there was nothing but tits and vag for as long as I was able to see symbol arts.

[TaigaUC]

Could have been Westerners who went to bed with their macros left on.
I've seen JP people spamming vulgar SA on the shared ships several times.
Those are always on the chat blocks though. I think.

I wonder if the JP gov would care enough to force foreigners to be blocked from PSO2 for spamming SA of genitals.

[Bellion]

It's actually like this for all ships, there's almost nothing to do in PSO2 at the moment besides EQs, and UQs with RDR boosts.

[jooozek]

Do you guys remember when during jp hours ship was full, when not just during eq times many blocks were totally full?

Cause recently the ship is a ghost town during jp hours.
Pretty sure most left for other ships. Can hardly blame them but it's a pity for all of us that remain on ship 2.
i don't know exactly what you remember but my play time usually was between 3PM JST to 3AM JST and aside of few times i havent seen any (not just 2) ships full outside of a) fake full ship display bug or b) very few or mega boosted EQs and i've been on ship2 since open beta weekend

[TaigaUC]

I've been trying to get goddammned BHS17 on my main, but it won't drop. Been farming Beach AQ with high risk, got BHS17 once on one account.
Yes, Orgkeratos appeared in the Sea Lab EQ earlier. No, he just dropped crap like 11 and 15 like he always fxxxing does.
Every damn time. Yes, I tried City EQ on XH many times. All I ever saw was BHS11 or 14, once.

At least Slide Upper 17 dropped from some random crap.

I hate RNG so much. Who the hell does XH EQ or Risk 20+ AQ for level 11 discs? F'n SEGA.
When we get rank 25 discs and we're level 120 or something, it'll probably still be a RNG between 11 and 25.
Good luck beating a super ultra level 150 boss and getting a level 25 disc instead of level 11.

[Poyonche]

September is like the boring update for PSO2, but just wait for October and Double (and probably Profound Darkness), and then you'll see Ship 2 with the "Busy" status.

[Xaelouse]

What will people do after those EQs end every day? It'll be like now.
Anyway, some JPs probably playing other things. I know DDON just came out and got 1 mil downloads some days after.

[TaigaUC]

Yeah. Damn EQ system.

I wrote a ton of complaints about DDO in the off-topic section.
I still can't believe how terrible it is. It's so bad I deleted it earlier.
Last time I tried it, my friend said, "I don't know why you're still wasting time on that."

Knowledgeable JP friend read the reviews and listened to my DDO experience, then said it's surprising how bad DDO is when Capcom already has Monster Hunter experience.
You'd think they'd know better. DDO honestly feels like one of those games that's going to go splat very quickly.
Of course, there are some bad games out there that are popular for some reason or another. DDO might become one of those.
Or it will have to become DRAGON'S DOGMA ONLINE: A REALM REBORN.
Ugh. Now that I think of it, I wonder if that's why Episode 4 is called Reborn.

I don't understand why some people like Capcom like to invest so much time and money into destroying their own franchises.
At least I can look forward to Dragon's Dogma PC in delicious high res. Hope they don't screw that up.

[landman]

If Japanese population was dead on Ship 2 you'd see two blocks full AT MOST, I think some people overestimate the amount of foreigners playing on Ship 2.

[jooozek]

the whole "can party only with people in the same block" and "premium space in blocks" things makes partying in PSO2 a hopeless pile of horse shit

[Achelousaurus]

Yeah, all those hentai sas were made by jps.
And I mean about a year ago. Was when I was still very new so around the DDoS. I think to remember it was still for some time after DDoS though.
Not like DDoS permanently affect Japanese players anyway.

Back then I actually saw far more Japanese players than westerners in general outside of B20.
Right now 2/3 or more of all people I see are Westerners.

[ArcaneTechs]

theres nothing really to do right now outside scheduled EQ's (if they're even good), School is still starting for some people (and main focus for those already started), people working and playing other things etc it's basically time now to cool down and relax off this game for awhile, do other things. People are jumping the gun though thinking JP players are abandoning anything it's just down time right now, no big deal, every game has this. If your like others, you login, do your Weeklies, log off for the week or just login each day for the stamps etc

If Japanese population was dead on Ship 2 you'd see two blocks full AT MOST, I think some people overestimate the amount of foreigners playing on Ship 2.
You mean the XH blocks only being Freemium with a small touch of Prem space taken? Meanwhile Block01 over filled from Freemium and are now over filling into Block02

[Achelousaurus]

Well, this is the same for everyone. Japanese as much as foreigners.
So the ratio should still be the same and there should still be more Japanese people than foreigners.
But that's not the case.
During late night to early afternoon for US people ship 2 is mostly empty. That is prime time for Japanese people, late afternoon to early night so there should at least as many of them online as are foreigners. But there are a lot less.

[Selphea]

I thought it's because of the CM2 Boost week.

[Nyansan]

I was under the impression that parts of Japan were experiencing severe flooding due to a tropical storm, and even if they weren't in affected areas surely they wouldn't risk playing when the regions right next to the ones they're living in is waist deep in flood water.

Edit: Also, 2nd semester starts in Japan starts next week :T

[LunaSolstice]

That's because they are on the shared ship lol

[Kokurokoki]

It's no wonder when the majority of the English speaking player base is a bunch of immature children that think they're acting like adults by posting picture of tits and the like.

Yeah. I'd leave for other ships too after all that creepiness going on.

[xBM]

Even CM shared ship is empty right now.

The only populated ones are the beginner and the experienced blocks (they're not that full too.)

I remember the 100% CM boost like a month ago and if you go to shared ship, every single block was full.

[landman]

During late night to early afternoon for US people ship 2 is mostly empty. That is prime time for Japanese people, late afternoon to early night
I think you have your time zones wrong, prime time for Japanese players is midday in Europe and early in the morning for Americas, and just yesterday I saw all premium blocks in XH full during an EQ, except for b20 of course.

[Hysteria1987]

I think you have your time zones wrong, prime time for Japanese players is midday in Europe and early in the morning for Americas, and just yesterday I saw all premium blocks in XH full during an EQ, except for b20 of course.

That Profound Invasion sure still draws 'em in :P

Still, it has been quieter lately. I doubt all the Japanese players are jumping ship, 'cause there's been no real difference in the foreign community. Why move now? Why not before? I reckon the game's just hit a boring patch- it does that from time to time, usually a few weeks out from the next major update. Rinse and repeat...

[Aine]

It's not just Ship 2, people are leaving the game in general because they've just gotten bored of it, there's nothing to do, and it's simply more of a chore than fun. Just look at the way SEGA have been throwing about massive boosts, login bonuses, and reworking the login stamp system. That should tell you something.

[EvilMag]

It's not just Ship 2, people are leaving the game in general because they've just gotten bored of it, there's nothing to do, and it's simply more of a chore than fun. Just look at the way SEGA have been throwing about massive boosts, login bonuses, and reworking the login stamp system. That should tell you something.

Instead of fixing the issue they just throw boosts and extra incentives to try to keep the game active.

Never change Sega. Doesn't really help how slow they release content.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

About that 10 year pl- bahaha... god I remember that line, and it's always funny.

[EvilMag]

Oh don't worry. I've learned from past games that if this game doesn't make them money anymore they won't improve the game, they'll flat out kill it.

Now I'm not saying its happening right now but at the rate Sega is releasing content, it'll happen sooner or later as more people are leaving...

[GHNeko]

ITT: we make assumptions about japanese activity or lack of based on speculation grounded in absolutely nothing.

Taiga so far is like the only one who has some sort of inkling as to what is going on in Japan to have a base to make his assumptions off of and even then he's not speaking from a pov that sounds like he's making even remotely definitive statements.

Goodness gracious don't people get tired of pinning stuff on westerners?????????????????????


Like come on fam

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

ITT: we make assumptions about japanese activity or lack of based on speculation grounded in absolutely nothing.

Taiga so far is like the only one who has some sort of inkling as to what is going on in Japan to have a base to make his assumptions off of and even then he's not speaking from a pov that sounds like he's making even remotely definitive statements.

Goodness gracious don't people get tired of pinning stuff on westerners?????????????????????


Like come on fam

Clearly we hate ourselves. So many people think japanese players think all gaijin are b20 scum, and are generally better off avoiding us if possible.

I'm no psychiatrist, but I think that's some form of projection or something...

[TaigaUC]

Taiga so far is like the only one who has some sort of inkling as to what is going on in Japan to have a base to make his assumptions off of and even then he's not speaking from a pov that sounds like he's making even remotely definitive statements.

Thanks, I'm glad someone appreciates what I'm trying to express.
My information is from hanging out with JP friends, watching JP friends' streams of other stuff, talking to JP friends privately, etc.

I just listed the stuff going on right now that I'm aware of, and that might have an influence on people PSO2ing.
I'm sure there are many other individual reasons, such as economic woes and other games. MGS5 is out in Japan, isn't it?
Even I am playing MGS5 instead of PSO2.

Speaking of which, there is probably way more gameplay content in MGS5 than all of PSO2.
From a quick search, its development time was roughly 4-5 years. PSO2's is now at around 6 years?
To be fair though, I'm sure MGS5 had a much larger budget, with many more skilled personnel and a much more powerful in-house engine.
But really, strip away all the budget-eating graphics, story, etc, and just slap the "gameplay stuff you can do in MGS5" to PSO2, and I'd probably be very happy.

[[Ayumi]]

ITT: we make assumptions about japanese activity or lack of based on speculation grounded in absolutely nothing.

Taiga so far is like the only one who has some sort of inkling as to what is going on in Japan to have a base to make his assumptions off of and even then he's not speaking from a pov that sounds like he's making even remotely definitive statements.

Goodness gracious don't people get tired of pinning stuff on westerners?????????????????????


Like come on fam

Well... just look at how you guys made Block 20 the wasteland and Block 1 isn't too far behind.

Either way, around the DDoS attack a lot of my JPN friends were missing for a few months to almost a year.
I haven't seen then got back online until around the spring into the summer bit by bit.
Of course though, they've been a bit busy as of late and not on as much now. Maybe it's due to the time of the year when people are busy or not?
That and the time of day. Most times I only see JPN players in my mpa when I play, but I guess my playtime usually is around when native Japanese players are playing.

When it's very late in Japan the blocks are usually a bit dead. So.. I'm not sure where the evidence is from the topic.
That and I might see 2 or 3 non Japanese players when I played on the Shared Ships.
They're not leaving. The thing is people trying to look too hard into why they can't find Japanese players when most of the time you will find them doing random things or just not playing when nothing big is going on.

Boost week I barely played with English players as I couldn't find any. Does that mean boost week I should've said RIP Western Community in PSO2?

[Nitro Vordex]

To be fair though, I'm sure MGS5 had a much larger budget, with many more skilled personnel and a much more powerful in-house engine.
MGS had Brojima.

PSO2 had Dragon "Gunslashes and bikinis w/ high heels" Sakai.

[Husq]

If you really want to gauge the japanese activity on a ship, it i proabbly best to check the vita and mixed blocks.
I noticed during the CM boost weeks that a lot of japanese gamers were actually using vita to play, instead of PCs. I'm guessing that consoles/handhelds are still more popular for gaming in japan. Im curious to see if the population will increase once the ps4 client gets released.

[Lumpen Thingy]

;3291487']
Boost week I barely played with English players as I couldn't find any. Does that mean boost week I should've said RIP Western Community in PSO2?

wut??????

[TaigaUC]

There's also PSO2ES, which is also full of incentives and you can't play both at the same time.
When JP people are out and about, or when there's nothing going on in PSO2, they are very likely messing around with PSO2ES in their spare time.

MGS collabo would be nice, but that'll never happen.
Konami hates everyone.

[[Ayumi]]

wut??????

During boost week 99% of the players I saw or played with were Japanese.
At least outside of my friendlist.

On my friendlist it was 50/50 on English and Japanese players.
Then again, I didn't play on Block 1. If I did I might've seen more English players... actually wait... I was leveling a class at level 1 during boost week near the end and did play on Block 1 to play some of the level up quest. Even then most players in the level were Japanese, so my statement still stands.

[AzureAsh]

It looks like I've picked a bad time to come back to the game

[TaigaUC]

Come back in 2016 when we get EPISODE 4: A REALM REBORN

[Kinaya]

there is no content at all atm, only thing worth doing is the new Gal EM, so ofc Ship 2 is dead cuz we arldy have less players than the other ships :)

[TaigaUC]

I'd rather have less players so the server doesn't go kaput everytime a decent EQ rolls around.

[Lumpen Thingy]

there is no content at all atm, only thing worth doing is the new Gal EM, so ofc Ship 2 is dead cuz we arldy have less players than the other ships :)

That's why there's always campaigns to get people to make a character in ship 6 and 7 right?

[Kinaya]

That's why there's always campaigns to get people to make a character in ship 6 and 7 right?

you do realize the last time we had a "ship 7/6" campaign was early last month in combination with the NEW REGISTRATION campaign yes? ppl that play on ship2 dont usually transfer cuz of that stupid storage shit

[Dammy]

ship 2 sux!

[Z-0]

ITT: we make assumptions about japanese activity or lack of based on speculation grounded in absolutely nothing.

Taiga so far is like the only one who has some sort of inkling as to what is going on in Japan to have a base to make his assumptions off of and even then he's not speaking from a pov that sounds like he's making even remotely definitive statements.

Goodness gracious don't people get tired of pinning stuff on westerners?????????????????????


Like come on fam
Well, Aine is right though. Talking with JP people and stalking twitters, people are constantly quitting because the game has just become boring -- I did the same a couple months back.

Before the game was interesting as they threw out content that was actually mildly interesting, such as Tower Defenses and uncapped Magatsu, and there were things to actually do before Ultimate became a thing and they nerfed everything else to the ground with massive boosts and broken (but boring) EQs. But now the game has become a neverending grind for 13 stars that aren't even useful since none of the content requires it, and the grind for 13 stars is boring as fuck because everything is extremely repetitive and there's nothing you can do to hunt something differently like you could in the past games.

Furthermore, the mindset of PSO2 players kind of sucks. Everyone follows the boosts and EQs like sheep, and nobody actually wants to "play" anything because it doesn't give them 50,000 cubes, EXP or rares. I've tried for a while to do a few things but nobody cares... I still never got around to doing a score attack for CM2, for example, because "it doesn't give any miles". :/ I ended up going back to PSO1, and I'm having a lot more fun there since people actually play the game instead of mindlessly farming.

[Dammy]

spamming rt/ttf is more fun?

[Z-0]

No, so I don't spam it.

Difference is, it's not the only thing people do and you can always find people doing other things because the game isn't designed so it's the only thing you can do. This is not the case with PSO2.

[Dammy]

i didnt meant you, i mean pso1 community, its hard to find someone doing something other than those 2

[Gama]

ive been playing solo most of the time.

no fun people to play with latelly.

[TaigaUC]

Strongly agree with everything Z-0 said.

[GHNeko]

Yeah Z-0 has a pretty good point. 13*s arent required and the way the game siphons you into doing things is pretty horrific.

Luckily for me and my team, we do our own thing so it's not a big issue for us, but rip all ya'll other suckas kek.

[Achelousaurus]

About that 10 year pl- bahaha... god I remember that line, and it's always funny.
The sad thing is that it could have worked if Sega wasn't fucking up all the time and refusing to fix the mess.
Sega is stuck atm cause they dont fix the multipliers bullshit. It's literally the ruin of the game.
Because of all the multipliers you can stack and because the dmg formula is so bad, damage can get far too high.
Because of that Sega cannot give us reasonable power boosts and only gives us tiny trickles. Which of course are not much motivation at all.
If they fixed their shit, giving us a new 2000 atk weapon series with an unconditional 20% dmg boost potential would actually be fine. And with such an epic upgrade people would come back, play and buy ac stuff. But Sega is full of retards. Hell, I see the same kind of BS I've been telling my boss for years. And now our company is bankrupt cause the investors are fed up wasting their money. No one thinks things through and thinks about the long term consequences. Lets pull some short term shit and keep stumbling from one screwup to the next, hoping we live to see tomorrow.
And unlike my company, Sega has the moeny to actually fix it, especially because PSO2 is one of their few well doing projects atm.


spamming rt/ttf is more fun?
I always found some fun people to do fun quests with.
After all you only needed 3 others, not 11.



Furthermore, the mindset of PSO2 players kind of sucks. Everyone follows the boosts and EQs like sheep, and nobody actually wants to "play" anything because it doesn't give them 50,000 cubes, EXP or rares. I've tried for a while to do a few things but nobody cares... I still never got around to doing a score attack for CM2, for example, because "it doesn't give any miles". :/ I ended up going back to PSO1, and I'm having a lot more fun there since people actually play the game instead of mindlessly farming.
That.
Well the mindset is Sega's fault because not just that EQs give a fuckton more rewards but they are also partially the most fun quests.
Remember quests like Phantasmal World or Endless Nightmare, War of Attrition and Lost X weapon.
Any quest even remotely resembling the fun stuff from PSOBB is an EQ now.

Free explorations are fun but way too short.
If you don't get lucky you don't get any fun e-trials either and they are just as lame.

XQs can be nice but can also be annoying. But unlike SHAQs their price is fine.
SHAQs cost 10 caps and each is 70k. And if you dare skip just one week, your risk resets. Even if you get nice stuff without, it's a huge turn off to be losing a boost you just had.
Because of this it's not something you can easily jump in and just do it.
You could but you always worry you run out of caps or you don't get 3 other people to spawn enough codes and enemies.
And if you don't, well then it was nothing but an exploration with limited spawns.
Not really worth the bother either when it's so rng dependent.

Only cmode1 is truly fun and challenging atm but it depends on 11 other people that are hard to come by and then some pporly timed lagspike here or an enemy getting too close and screwing up your cam there can make a big difference.

I had quite a few runs end M10 50% or 80% where just a bit of bad luck earlier caused the premature end.

[GHNeko]

So basically PSO2 Could use premade quests like PSO1's quest.

I like it kek.

[LunaSolstice]

The main thing that keeps me playing this game,and any MMO in general is having goals for myself. Main goal at the moment is to make alot of red weapons. Getting the CM is harder though because of a chain of terrible CM2 MPAs right now lol

[SakoHaruo]

You guys are passionate fans. People here claim there's nothing to do and yet you're still playing PSO2. So stop that, because In your eyes there's always something to do even when there's not. Managing to get someone to take even just one day off from PSO2 is a big achievement. This game is a drug, one that I currently do not use. Maybe if Episode 4 is good.

Oh yeah, and say no to drugs kids. They'll ruin your life. o3o

[WEED420BLAZEIT]

You guys are passionate fans. People here claim there's nothing to do and yet you're still playing PSO2. So stop that, because In your eyes there's always something to do even when there's not. Managing to get someone to take even just one day off from PSO2 is a big achievement. This game is a drug, one that I currently do not use. Maybe if Episode 4 is good.

Oh yeah, and say no to drugs kids. They'll ruin your life. o3o

somehow i feel motivated

[EvilMag]

Oh look, another login campaign
http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=6934

>_>

[LunaSolstice]

What is that thing under the Grind Success 100% in the campaign? And what is it used for?

[IronKrone]

What is that thing under the Grind Success 100% in the campaign? And what is it used for?

Ragol Memory. You can trade them for PSO items and costumes at the badge shop.

(It's now translated and up on bumped.org.)

[Utterly Vile]

There's also PSO2ES, which is also full of incentives and you can't play both at the same time.
When JP people are out and about, or when there's nothing going on in PSO2, they are very likely messing around with PSO2ES in their spare time.

MGS collabo would be nice, but that'll never happen.
Konami hates everyone.

Agreed!!!...That would be sooooo sweet!! It still makes me sick when I think about "Hedo"... It also makes me think about what will happen to the Revengance game. (Love that game)!!!!:nerd:

[wefwq]

There's also PSO2ES, which is also full of incentives and you can't play both at the same time.
When JP people are out and about, or when there's nothing going on in PSO2, they are very likely messing around with PSO2ES in their spare time.

MGS collabo would be nice, but that'll never happen.
Konami hates everyone.
MGS themed pachinko or cardboard box room goods, in hot.

[Achelousaurus]

Actually, no.
That's not even close to what I said.
What I'm saying is, give us more fun stuff to do that we can do when we want it instead of having to wait for EQ time and hope that the RNG (or Sega) picks one we like and then have it turn sour cause of a bad mpa or running out of boosters a split second before the crystal is broken or because we were another second too late to select play quest again from the campship exit menu.

Let us play how we want instead of forcing inconveniences and BS on us all the time.
EQs aren't common in moprgs.
One of the fundamentals of RPGs is being able to play at your own leisure.
PSO2 has neither.

[TaigaUC]

EQ is kinda like waiting for battlegrounds to pop in WoW, and I hated that so much.
At the time, I was stuck on a shit server where it took hours to days to months for a good battleground to pop.
No choice but to wait in queue. Zzzz.

[Ryziou]

Come back in 2016 when we get EPISODE 4: A REALM REBORN

Haha, this was the best thing I've read in a long time.

[RadiantLegend]

You guys are passionate fans. People here claim there's nothing to do and yet you're still playing PSO2. So stop that, because In your eyes there's always something to do even when there's not. Managing to get someone to take even just one day off from PSO2 is a big achievement. This game is a drug, one that I currently do not use. Maybe if Episode 4 is good.

Oh yeah, and say no to drugs kids. They'll ruin your life. o3o
I need help. Gotta get my log in bonus and make meseta to make 20 more atk to make more mesetas for 20 more atk. How the hell do I fall for this?

[TaigaUC]

Haha, this was the best thing I've read in a long time.

It's totally true though. It's even called "reborn", and the graphic upgrade is already confirmed for PS4.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Yoshi P's influence saving games. Please look forward to it.