Datamined content: New potentials(includes Austere weapon potential) and new affixes

[Maenara]

•Increase Critical rate by 15/20/25%
•Increase Critical rate by 20/30/40%

These two potentials are internally named DoublePotential.

Austere weapon potential:
•Increase PP Regeneration by 10%. Increase damage dealt by 6/9/12%.



New affixes:
•Darkness Soul: All +15. HP +15. PP +2
•Soul Catalyst: No stats. Combine with 4 different Soul Affixes to create Astral Soul.
•Astral Soul: All +35. HP +35. PP +5.

[femme fatale]

not bad.

[KazukiQZ]

Yea, good potential. Not too OP , percentage wise. Although it's on the strongest 13*, so yeah.... xD

[un1t27]

https://d.maxfile.ro/wszexnclkw.gif

[Hitoshura]

That's certainly not a bad potential, but I was kind of expecting more since you need so many materials you need for a single 30 ele Austere. Invader weapons have a pretty bad pot, but I guess they're great as poverty weapons since they come at 10600.

[Shinamori]

Someone explain to me why this is good? Like seriously, am I missing something?

[WEED420BLAZEIT]

that feel when 0(ZERO) heartkey, 2(bloodsomething), 5(phantomnight)

yes, BIO weapons are traps

[RadiantLegend]

What is the invade series potential?

[Maenara]

Someone explain to me why this is good? Like seriously, am I missing something?

Austere weapons have like, 50 higher atk than the second highest stat 13*s, IIRC.

[Z-0]

Someone explain to me why this is good? Like seriously, am I missing something?

Austere Sword = 1184-α at +0
Ares Sword = 1083 at +0

α is whatever Darkness Soul boosts S-Atk by. Could be 0 or 50, who knows? I'm going to assume it'll be mineable if the patch is up (or when it is).

[Maenara]

I have the stats on new affixes, adding to main post.

[Dia79]

Austere Sword = 1184-α at +0
Ares Sword = 1083 at +0

α is whatever Darkness Soul boosts S-Atk by. Could be 0 or 50, who knows? I'm going to assume it'll be mineable if the patch is up (or when it is).

not sure i get what u mean with the alpha thing :P but so far 100 atk more than ares and an extra 2% from the potential (considering both austere and ares 60% level 3 potential) isnt that bad or maybe im wrong? i might as well consider ares still really good weapons :D

[PokeminMaster]

Austere Sword = 1184-α at +0
Ares Sword = 1083 at +0

α is whatever Darkness Soul boosts S-Atk by. Could be 0 or 50, who knows? I'm going to assume it'll be mineable if the patch is up (or when it is).
It was 60 when it was datamined earlier, but it could still have changed since then of course

[Maenara]

It was 60 when it was datamined earlier, but it could still have changed since then of course

Wut, no it wasn't. Darkness Soul is All +15, HP +15, PP +2.

New affix: Soul Catalyst: Combine with 4 different souls to create Astral Soul.

Astral Soul: All +35. HP +35. PP +5.

[Z-0]

It was 60 when it was datamined earlier, but it could still have changed since then of course
That was a photoshop.

[Qualia]

Astral Soul: All +35. HP +35. PP +5.

omg yes

[Dia79]

Wut, no it wasn't. Darkness Soul is All +15, HP +15, PP +2.

New affix: Soul Catalyst: Combine with 4 different souls to create Astral Soul.

Astral Soul: All +35. HP +35. PP +5.

holy ...this astral soul gonna ruin my storages space now lol well at least untill january..8-)

[Qualia]

Wait, can you soul receptor astral soul, or is it only made through soul catalyst?

[RadiantLegend]

Hopefully you can transfer Astral soul from a weapon/unit to another.

[Dia79]

Hopefully you can transfer Astral soul from a weapon/unit to another.

i doubt that it sound to work like ultimate buster i think you wil always need trigger soul (forgot the name already lol) and 4 different souls to get it on

[LonelyGaruga]

Austere Sword = 1184-α at +0
Ares Sword = 1083 at +0

α is whatever Darkness Soul boosts S-Atk by.


Darkness Soul is All +15

Austere Sword is 1169 S-ATK then. +10 stats are 1516 vs 1636.

Ares Sword vs Austere Calibur comparison

http://4rt.info/psod/?8PhAs

Austere Calibur is 5.9% stronger than max PB Ares Sword.

[Tunga]

If they're 6% stronger on average than ares then its not really worth it for lazy people(like me) to upgrade their ares weapons.

Edit: is the critical boosting potential for invade? i'm lost :s

[femme fatale]

wonder what the set bonus will be with Austere+units, if it will even have that is...

[AAneko]

Wow, I wonder if BoHu with an Austere can outdamage a FiBo with a crafted Red DB under Limit Break now... :D

[Maenara]

Edit: is the critical boosting potential for invade? i'm lost :s

No. What weapon those potentials are for is unknown.

[final_attack]

Now I'll just hope the stone drops is good o-o

[Tunga]

No. What weapon those potentials are for is unknown.

Edit: derp for me lol

[XbikXBd]

Now I'll just hope the stone drops is good o-o

Seems all the falzs will drop the nero stones even there human forms so id say the stones may not be to hard to get.

[Hysteria1987]

•Soul Catalyst: No stats. Combine with 4 different Soul Affixes to create Astral Soul.
•Astral Soul: All +35. HP +35. PP +5.Not more affix creep D: I'm kind of glad I stopped where I did.

[Selphea]

Well good thing I held off on my 5s upgrade. If I can get all the HP I want from Souls alone without trading off ATK and PP I can stop being hipster and go full ATK.

Invade seems nice for Gunslash and Fi weapons. Also nice for cheap rainbow DBs and Wands. I guess second pot is Photon Booster? 40% x 15% = 6%, so Invade weapons are PB0 Ares tier for Fi.

[raialeus]

According to 4gamer
The Invader series will have a wide damage variance and criticals are extremely important to make them work.
Original text: 交換時から性能が高いが、与えるダメージの振れ幅が大きいため技量やクリティカル率の上昇など、ダメージを 安定させる工夫が必要だ。

[Rakurai]

I guess they're like the red/blue weapons, except way more difficult to get.

As far as Soul Catalyst goes, I wonder where it comes from. I'd assume PSO2es or as a Profound Darkness exclusive affix as my first guesses.

[Maenara]

Soul Catalyst, not Extractor.

[Selphea]

Meh 40% from Brave Stance and 40% from Pot, my Gunslash build is all set :O

I wish they'd have an alternate pot like "Dex Amplification" or something, where every 80 Dex you have = 1% more damage ._.

[Maenara]

I wish they'd have an alternate pot like "Dex Amplification" or something, where every 80 Dex you have = 1% more damage ._.

Are you seriously asking Sega to make Dexterity useful?

[wefwq]

According to 4gamer
The Invader series will have a wide damage variance and criticals are extremely important to make them work.
Original text: 交換時から性能が高いが、与えるダメージの振れ幅が大きいため技量やクリティカル率の上昇など、ダメージを 安定させる工夫が必要だ。
We red weapon MK-II now?
It's not like they'll leave it for too long if the effect are that extreme anyway.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

We red weapon MK-II now?
It's not like they'll leave it for too long if the effect are that extreme anyway.

Technically MK III

[arkeido]

Soul Catalyst come from Elder + Loser + Double + Apprentice + Persona Soul
10% Chance
Persona soul price is crazy (weapon) on ship 2

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/whWbiPT.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

as for Astral Soul... 4 random soul + catalyst didn't show it on list

[Rakurai]

Never would've guessed Persona Soul would ever be in demand.

I guess it's Apprentice Soul that are going to be the biggest issue when it comes to getting the ability on something with a decent number of slots.

[Maenara]

Soul Catalyst come from Elder + Loser + Double + Apprentice + Persona Soul
10% Chance
Persona soul price is crazy (weapon) on ship 2

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/whWbiPT.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

ahahaha that's fucking ridiculous

[jooozek]

According to 4gamer
The Invader series will have a wide damage variance and criticals are extremely important to make them work.
Original text: 交換時から性能が高いが、与えるダメージの振れ幅が大きいため技量やクリティカル率の上昇など、ダメージを 安定させる工夫が必要だ。

nice scam :wacko: but hey, they have 13 stars!!111

[final_attack]

Soul Catalyst come from Elder + Loser + Double + Apprentice + Persona Soul
10% Chance
Persona soul price is crazy (weapon) on ship 2

as for Astral Soul... 4 random soul + catalyst didn't show it on list

So, that's why there's new +40% Affix success ...... to make it 50:50 :wacko:

[arkeido]

So, that's why there's new +40% Affix success ...... so that'll make it 50:50 :wacko:

There's rumour Darkness Soul boost Catalyst success rate tho.
And probably 4 required too to make Astral... It did written as "Certain Soul" after all.

[Rakurai]

I hope you can at least use a Soul Receptor fodder to 100% the success rate on Astral Soul.

[Azure Falcon]

Soul Catalyst come from Elder + Loser + Double + Apprentice + Persona Soul
10% Chance
Persona soul price is crazy (weapon) on ship 2

Hah, glad I never sold that 6 slot Coat Edge D with Persona Soul that I found a few months ago.

[Maenara]

There's rumour Darkness Soul boost Catalyst success rate tho.

There's no room for Darkness Soul to boost the affix rate. It's 5 fodder to create.

[arkeido]

There's no room for Darkness Soul to boost the affix rate. It's 5 fodder to create.

4 if one of the souls in main unit.

[.Jack]

Wont matter much just much easier for higher att affixes from now on. 150 affixes very simple to make they just cost a bit to make. With this new 40% it brings the cost down significantly for easy 100+ att (1-2mill easy). Even 150+ att should be cake now with 10mill average on a weapon if you know what you're doing.

[Maenara]

Wont matter much just much easier for higher att affixes from now on. 150 affixes very simple to make they just cost a bit to make. With this new 40% it brings the cost down significantly for easy 100+ att (1-2mill easy). Even 150+ att should be cake now with 10mill average on a weapon if you know what you're doing.

Wrong topic...?

[Ryziou]

Soul Catalyst come from Elder + Loser + Double + Apprentice + Persona Soul
10% Chance
Persona soul price is crazy (weapon) on ship 2

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/whWbiPT.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

as for Astral Soul... 4 random soul + catalyst didn't show it on list

Hahaha, what the actual fuck. I knew those stats would come with a price but I wasn't expecting that much of a price.

[Rakurai]

Needing four Darkness souls for Astral Soul would make sense, IMO.

It's basically an improved version of that soul.

[raialeus]

It actually should be 4 Soul Catalyst + 1 Darkness Soul to create Astral.
Text from Catalyst: 4つ集めると特定のソールと合成可能 (Collect 4 and you can fuse it with a Certain Soul)

[Rakurai]

I can't imagine people being too crazy about having to sacrifice multiple 5 slot+ Apprentice Soul fodders to get Astral Soul on one item.

Well, aside from the absurdly rich folk who don't have the slightest concern about money, that is.

[Ryziou]

Can anyone confirm that Darkness soul boosts it? or should I go try it.

[arkeido]

Can anyone confirm that Darkness soul boots it? or should I go try it.

Nope, just tried and still 10% Catalyst.

[Maenara]

Can anyone get a screenshot of Astral Soul forming?

[raialeus]

Just confirmed that Astral Soul isn't compatible with Soul Receptor

You can create Astral Soul with a pass rate of 60% using 4 Soul Catalyst and 1 Darkness Soul
Soul Catalyst can coexist with a Soul in the same weapon/unit

[Shinmarizu]

Figured they'd do that. Nice and all, but too far out of my reach to implement at the moment.

[Rakurai]

That's way too much RNG to contend with for what's a relatively small upgrade over Apprentice Soul (From the viewpoint of a damage min-maxer, that is).

I don't think I'll ever actually bother with it.

[Ryziou]

So basically Sega is telling you to get rich or don't bother trying. My friend said that they'll probably do a trend like "Any 4 S-ATK soul + catalyst = 50 S-ATK, 30 HP, 5PP",

I hope that doesn't happen.

[Rakurai]

I'm going to assume that running around in the Shiro/Kuronia free fields in search of Falz is probably the best way to farm Nero stones, unless the VH AQ Falz Hunar can drop them.

[PokeminMaster]

Do we know the set bonus for the Units?

[un1t27]

Poor people crying in here as usual.

[Achelousaurus]

Oh fuck you sega >_>
Ruining prices again.

Anyway, austere potential is a bad joke. The prices is so absurd it would have to be something like unconditional 40% dmg increase to be worth it.
Instead it's silly like this and kinda nice and all but compared to getting nearly the same damage with other 13* you can get for cheap and not being terribly far removed from red weapons, there is no point in getting austere unless you LOVE them treadmills.

[Selphea]

It's basically a reliable way to get an >Ares-tier weapon with a reliable potential.

Good for weapons that don't have ezmode 13*s - the non-TMG/Jet Boots/Rifle/Gunslash/Double Saber/Kamikaze Bullet Bow weapons.

[arkeido]

Oh fuck you sega >_>
Ruining prices again.

Anyway, austere potential is a bad joke. The prices is so absurd it would have to be something like unconditional 40% dmg increase to be worth it.
Instead it's silly like this and kinda nice and all but compared to getting nearly the same damage with other 13* you can get for cheap and not being terribly far removed from red weapons, there is no point in getting austere unless you LOVE them treadmills.

They can drop from PD though.
http://i.imgur.com/mr4EDjg.png

[Z-0]

?

Austere does a lot more than the other 13*s though, since it has a stronger latent (it's 2% more than Ares, which is the best 13*, plus unconditional) and a lot more attack... it's something like 200-250 attack more when +10 and 60%.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Just fact checking:

-Astral soul cannot be passed from one piece of gear to another via soul receptor.

-Astral soul takes 4 soul catalyst, and a darkness soul.

-Soul catalyst takes the 5 falz souls, and has a base pass rate of 10%.

All of the above is true?

If so, wouldn't getting astral soul + modulator on any one final affix thing be absurdly impractical? It would require 5 falz soul/modulator fodders, then affix soul catalyst with 10% base rate along with modulator, then repeat that process 3 more times to have the necessary soul catalysts (although only 2 extra modulator is required).


PS: what is austere potential?

[PokeminMaster]

Just fact checking:

-Astral soul cannot be passed from one piece of gear to another via soul receptor.

-Astral soul takes 4 soul catalyst, and a darkness soul.

-Soul catalyst takes the 5 falz souls, and has a base pass rate of 10%.

All of the above is true?

If so, wouldn't getting astral soul + modulator on any one final affix thing be absurdly impractical? It would require 5 falz soul/modulator fodders, then affix soul catalyst with 10% base rate along with modulator, then repeat that process 3 more times to have the necessary soul catalysts (although only 2 extra modulator is required).


PS: what is austere potential?
Oh man, is that really how you get Soul Catalyst?

Also, it's on the main post [+10% PP Regen and +6/9/12% All Damage]

[Cyber Meteor]

They can drop from PD though.
http://i.imgur.com/mr4EDjg.png

Oh thank god! That's really good news ! :bday:

[Tunga]

Any info on invade potencial? And is this new boss the new excube piñata?

[ZerotakerZX]

Oh thank god! That's really good news ! :bday:

I thought vita is screenshot-capable machine

[Charmeleon]

Any info on invade potencial? And is this new boss the new excube piñata?

Invade pot +20/30/40% crit rate. The boss isn't really a new excube piñata, more like new Profound Invasion. 1 run, 30ish cubes with chance of 13*.

[Dia79]

soul catalyst + persona soul + elder soul + apprentice soul + loser soul + double soul + darkness soul and i still dont get any sign of astral soul

[LonelyGaruga]

That's because what you need is four Soul Catalyst and a Darkness Soul.

[Dia79]

Just fact checking:

-Astral soul cannot be passed from one piece of gear to another via soul receptor.

-Astral soul takes 4 soul catalyst, and a darkness soul.

-Soul catalyst takes the 5 falz souls, and has a base pass rate of 10%.

All of the above is true?

If so, wouldn't getting astral soul + modulator on any one final affix thing be absurdly impractical? It would require 5 falz soul/modulator fodders, then affix soul catalyst with 10% base rate along with modulator, then repeat that process 3 more times to have the necessary soul catalysts (although only 2 extra modulator is required).


PS: what is austere potential?


if this is the scenario i pass @ astral soul at least till they reduce this reqs

[shinigamiaka]

welp, time to throw your ares to trash can people!
(lol, jk. i never got any ares.)



*continue to cry in the corner

[shinigamiaka]

if this is the scenario i pass @ astral soul at least till they reduce this reqs

nah, i don't think they will change the req. pretty much you have to sacrifice anything if you want it. i guess.

[raialeus]

-Astral soul cannot be passed from one piece of gear to another via soul receptor.

JP keep stating this on twitter, but what really does happen when you use Soul Receptor
with Astral Soul is that you can pass Astral soul at 10%. I am assuming Soul Receptor is actually "working" in the sense that you only have 1 Astral Soul unit. The worst scenario is that
10% is the MAX rate if you are not using 4 Soul Catalyst+Darkness Soul method.

[Ordy]

10%? so 50% with the new 40% affix boos, 60% during affix boost week.

I'm not going to risk a soul/stat/mod/flict/noble affix with a 60% on Astral Soul for what ... 35HP and 2 more PP compared to a Bayari or Guranz soul?

I'll stick to App/UQ souls.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

That's because what you need is four Soul Catalyst and a Darkness Soul.


-Astral soul cannot be passed from one piece of gear to another via soul receptor.

JP keep stating this on twitter, but what really does happen when you use Soul Receptor
with Astral Soul is that you can pass Astral soul at 10%. I am assuming Soul Receptor is actually "working" in the sense that you only have 1 Astral Soul unit. The worst scenario is that
10% is the MAX rate if you are not using 4 Soul Catalyst+Darkness Soul method.

So my post was in fact accurate.

Welp. Time to pretend astral soul doesn't exist for now! There's barely enough persona soul fodder on ship 2 to support one person trying their hand at astral soul. Trying to get modulator, and flict on the final affix with astral soul just seems like the stuff nightmare fuel is made of...

[Achelousaurus]

Oh.
Well, if austere drops it's actually worth getting but tbh I still don't think it's worth trading in unless you found one and want to get it to 60 element.

According to swiki Austere Sword is ~120 atk higher than ares and Katana is ~100 atk higher.
That's 3-4% dmg. And the potential is 12% so it's 6-10% stronger than ares depending on pb.
And some 13.5% stronger than Invade (though fi invade weapons are stronger cause critical actually helps them).

That still sounds very meager. Typical Sega pace progress. Just like the pretty pointless Astral Soul.
Of course, it's really good for units, for weapons kinda nice if you care about pp though useless if you care only about atk.
But the effort needed to get it onto your gear is just ridiculous.
I mean it was bad enough that for a few hp and 2 more pp you needed this kind of effort but then the success rate is so abysmal it's just a bad joke.

Especially cause the soul has such an absurdly low success rate.

[Flaoc]

what? invade weps are NOT stronger even for fi austere still has that 12% damage which will still happen on crits and 10% natural pp regen

[Selphea]

what? invade weps are NOT stronger even for fi austere still has that 12% damage which will still happen on crits and 10% natural pp regen

I think he means stronger than 13.5% behind.

[Dia79]

well yea i agree that this astral soul thng is like an achievement for gamblers atm but im pretty sure sega will fix the way to create the soul itself , because its not a soul that make a real difference compared to the others and players will just avoid the risk after a while using their resources for safer stuff ,failing way less thx to the new 40% affix item players wont need to buy or sell fodders with the same rate of before and last most important thing they will just skip those extra scratches to balance their finances :P

[Z-0]

I think he means stronger than 13.5% behind.
He does say that "It's better for FI" though, when it's not.

[Agastya]

Well, technically it isn't wrong. Invade is better for FI and GU than they are other classes since they get bonus damage on crits due to class skills. While they may still be weaker than the upgrade ones, an Invade TD is going to do more good for a FI than an Invade Sword is going to do for a HU.

[Alma]

Can anyone get a screenshot of Astral Soul forming?

[SPOILER-BOX]
4x of these + darkness soul

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5774/21938799964_1ed3962b18_b.jpg




will become this one:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5665/21940359323_7816e419bb_b.jpg
[/SPOILER-BOX]
something like this?

the effort vs reward ratio truly not worth it if you expect something out of these.

[NoobSpectre]

New affixes:
•Darkness Soul: All +15. HP +15. PP +2
•Soul Catalyst: No stats. Combine with 4 different Soul Affixes to create Astral Soul.
•Astral Soul: All +35. HP +35. PP +5.

Wait, that All means Satk,Ratk,Tatk or all ATK+DEF?

[Bellion]

All attack, defense, and dex.

[Rakurai]

At vert least the success rate on forming Astral Soul can be brought to 100%.

[Ryziou]

At vert least the success rate on forming Astral Soul can be brought to 100%.

That's nice but to make the fodders aren't even worth your time unless you're filthy rich and as Milranduil said in another topic:


substitute astral instead of app for -5atk/+5pp and +1000% swag

[Achelousaurus]

He does say that "It's better for FI" though, when it's not.
Was saying fi benefits from the crit potential unlike other classes.
That was before I found out they have fucking red weapon like min dmg.
I don't mind +40ing a 13* but being forced to +40 it just to make it not suck leaves a very sour taste.

If I get invade it's just cause that's yet another source of future 13* passes and I have nothing else to do with the stones.

[Hitoshura]

Last time I looked at damage calculations for FI Invade weapons, they did like 1% more max damage with Critical Strike than Austeres do without it. So I mean, I could be wrong, but I guess if you invest a bunch of points into critical skills there's something there but that's really not worth it considering the variance and SP investment.