pso 2 in u.s.??

[xworkoutxfiend15x]

Hey Im new to the forum and use to play pso ep.1&2 alot when I was younger. I just saw that pso 2 is out but was wondering if its available in the u.s.? Im a huge fan of the games and would love to play this one as well. Any help is appreciated. Thx!

[Punisher106]

Not gonna happen.

SoA's too busy sucking Sonic's Chili Dog.

[LordKaiser]

No it won't.

http://www.tssznews.com/2015/08/21/sega-rules-out-phantasy-star-online-2-for-the-west/

Share the message and move along. If you have SEGA ID then just log in.

[TheLadyRena]

Not even remotely.

[Achelousaurus]

I actually heard some pretty good reason why they are worried about releasing in the west.
They make most of the money with AC scratch but most of that is for stuff popular in japan and to some extent in more of Asia.
A lot of that stuff isn't even known in the West, let alone popular.
So if Sega releases in the West they would have a huge amount of players, but people wouldn't buy nearly enough AC.

PS: look on the bright side. No need to start a new account and do it all over again and pay the AC all over again.
And Sega not releasing in the west means they will continue turning a blind eye on Western players (obviously not officially) cause we are convenient additional profit. We cannot even complain about anything cause we are not actually allowed to play. We do and we buy AC (enough of us) but Sega has absolutely no obligations towards us.

[xworkoutxfiend15x]

Well that blows. The game looks real fun. Oh well.

[Punisher106]

Just get the tweaker. It has several english patches, and updates "regularly". Nearly everything relevant is translated.

[xworkoutxfiend15x]

Whats tweaker? That like a vpn?

[kurokyosuke]

The Tweaker is an alternate launcher for PSO2 JP that can install English patches with little to no hassle. There's no IP block, so you don't need a VPN or anything, either.

[Raujinn]

No it won't.

http://www.tssznews.com/2015/08/21/sega-rules-out-phantasy-star-online-2-for-the-west/

Share the message and move along. If you have SEGA ID then just log in.

I'll preface this comment by saying I am almost certain that the western version is never happening. That said, "we're not doing the PS4 version" isn't really equivalent to "it's never coming out" as that leaves the possibility of a PC version open. It's never coming out, though (if the SEA client is anything to go by the US team's efforts ended around chapter 8 I think it was; the translation quality PLUMMETED after that point...).

[Gamemako]

Hey Im new to the forum and use to play pso ep.1&2 alot when I was younger. I just saw that pso 2 is out but was wondering if its available in the u.s.? Im a huge fan of the games and would love to play this one as well. Any help is appreciated. Thx!

In all likelihood... never coming. It was actually announced (prematurely) for the West in 2012, when the game was new. 3 years later, we see nothing. Given how SEGA knows that the hardcore part of the fanbase are largely invested overseas, the odds-on favorite is that PSO2 will never show up in the West officially.

Go ahead and sign up with the JP version and give it a whirl. AIDA has created the PSO2 Tweaker (http://arks-layer.com/), which translates the items, most story bits, and plenty of other odds and ends. There is a guide on the site to signing up for a SEGA account. Also, while there is technically no IP block, most people cannot connect directly to the servers. You will likely need to use the proxy or a private VPN. Tweaker will handle most of it, public proxy site is here (https://pso2proxy.cyberkitsune.net/bluepill/) if you need it. Just beware of the proxy chat; most active mod goes on racist rants a lot.

[Gamemako]

But SoJ won't hear it because they're full of themselves, just like so many Japanese publishers have come to be lately.

I wouldn't say it's come to be that way so much as has always been that way. Square made FF4 easier and then produced Mystic Quest because they were convinced that RPGs were unpopular because westerners couldn't comprehend them. More recently, we've heard about how Nintendo Software Technology ended up falling apart because of how Nintendo's Japanese management approached the American developers.

[AmanoMai]

or you could play the SEA version

the server suck, but

at least it's fully in english, with a full english comunity...(or is it?)

[TheszNuts]

It's more SEA than english.

[NoobSpectre]

It's more SEA than english.

true, you'll hear SEA-graded english, indonesian, vietnam, and sometimes even Philipine's Spanish.

Though we still use English as lingua franca.

[isCasted]

First of all, if you expect PSO2 to be like original PSO with stuff like combat, atmosphere etc, prepare to be disappointed (for the most silly reasons). If you wish to have fun and enjoy this game to its fullest, you are welcomed with open hands, because there's loads of fun to be had (on JP server, at least).

All you need to understand is cultural differences between America and Japan. The culture of respect is big, and it includes understanding that you need to improve your character and your own skill (because you'll have to play with random groups. A lot), which is what a lot of people tend to complain about.

Honestly, if you really wish to play a game - you will play it. So, good luck with that!

[KLMS1]

Whats tweaker?

You're welcome (http://arks-layer.com/).

[xworkoutxfiend15x]

Thanks guys for all the answers. Ill tr tweaker. I had a feeling it wouldnt be like the old pso but i I like the genre. Wasnt the biggest fan of psu but still had a lil fun.

[TaigaUC]

Even if SEGA decides to port it to the West, it's super late to do so now. You'd definitely end up with a vastly inferior port.
And it doesn't sound like they've done much work towards an English version (unless they copy paste from SEA).
That probably means that even if they announce an official Western version, it'll be a long time after that before anything even gets released.
That's what happened with other games like Blade and Soul. And you can be sure there will be some kind of bizarre censorship, just like other games.
It's also true that most, if not all the costumes, events, scratches and collaborations and such would not fare well or don't even exist in the West.
On top of that, SEGA focuses heavily on PSO2's Japan community aspect. I doubt that'll happen for any Western localization.

As everyone already said, just grab the Tweaker and use the English Patch.
It simplifies everything and makes it much easier for international players to try PSO2.
Even if there are parts of the game you don't fully understand, it's better than nothing.
If you do try PSO2 Japan, I recommend keeping a low profile when JP players are around, as some may get upset at rude/irritating behavior.

[Jei182]

PSO2 has so many collaborations and as a whole it seems like PSO is more widely known in Japan. I couldn't even imagine what kind of collaborations we'd have over here, and I think if they released it in the west (America at least) they'd probably have to change the whole model regarding AC. It does seem like a lot of work due to cultural differences and the way the game is structered. At this point, I'd probably stick to the Japanese version because there is already so much to offer if a Western version was released.

[TheszNuts]

It's also true that most, if not all the costumes, events, scratches and collaborations and such would not fare well or don't even exist in the West.

If anything the West will be nothing but TF2/CoD theme content, and knowing the 1% that are still holding out for it they'll say it was completely worth it as well.

[TaigaUC]

Yeah. IIRC, other Asian games that got localized to North America tended to have Military/War stuff.
Asian games already get exclusives and various things changed between each Asian country.

Take out the collabos and most of the scratches will be dead in the water.
Take out the Japanese themed stuff and a huge chunk of stuff would be removed.
Take out anything that might offend the West, and there'd be almost nothing left.

[Vintasticvin]

If anything the West will be nothing but TF2/CoD theme content, and knowing the 1% that are still holding out for it they'll say it was completely worth it as well.

You forgot sanic, football, League Of Legends collabs

[LordKaiser]

PSO2 would be censored to hell in the west thanks to the SJW scum.

[Jei182]

^^^Yes it would be. Watching some of the videos in the lobby proves just how much censoring they'd probably feel they'd have to do. I was pretty surprised at some of the lobby videos and advertisements, not because of the content but because of the fact that there probably would be a few groups up in arms about it.

[Zorafim]

Wasn't there already an english translation for, some asian country? And wasn't it terrible? Just download the game and play it like the rest of us have, it's better than anything Sega can dish out.


I wouldn't say it's come to be that way so much as has always been that way. Square made FF4 easier and then produced Mystic Quest because they were convinced that RPGs were unpopular because westerners couldn't comprehend them. More recently, we've heard about how Nintendo Software Technology ended up falling apart because of how Nintendo's Japanese management approached the American developers.

Now, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't RPGs come from America? We're the ones that did D&D, and those text based multiplayer RPGs. Didn't eastern RPGs, most notably Final Fantasy, take most of their stuff from that? And haven't we eaten up JRPGs for decades by now?

[Sayara]

South East Asia had a English version. Its panned for being awful.

[Dragwind]

Wasn't there already an english translation for, some asian country? And wasn't it terrible? Just download the game and play it like the rest of us have, it's better than anything Sega can dish out.



Now, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't RPGs come from America? We're the ones that did D&D, and those text based multiplayer RPGs. Didn't eastern RPGs, most notably Final Fantasy, take most of their stuff from that? And haven't we eaten up JRPGs for decades by now?

Ironically, Sega was created by American businessmen who apparently loved casino type gaming. You can see that bit of history repeated through various Sega titles including PSO2 oddly.

[TaigaUC]

Read up on the North American Blade and Soul censoring for some fun examples of recent localization "efforts".
There's also that debacle over Xenoblade Chronicles or whatever, and Fatal Frame... 5? It's why I've always tried to stick with imports.

My understanding is the SEA initial translation wasn't bad, they just changed a lot of terms and names for the sake of appealing to locals or newbies.
The question is, even if SEGA were to localize PSO2 for the West, would they use the SEA translations or do their own thing, perhaps hiring someone else to redo them?
I'm leaning towards the latter.

[Gamemako]

Now, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't RPGs come from America? We're the ones that did D&D, and those text based multiplayer RPGs. Didn't eastern RPGs, most notably Final Fantasy, take most of their stuff from that? And haven't we eaten up JRPGs for decades by now?

It's a bit of a different question in how they are organized. In some fashion, we all role-played as children (make-believe and whatnot). I don't think it's particularly meaningful invention exists except for specific conventions. D&D is quite different in style from JRPGs. D&D is collaborative, individualized storytelling; JRPGs are rigid and didactic.

In any case, JRPGs weren't particularly popular in the U.S. until FF7, several years after they screwed with FF4 and created MQ.


There's also that debacle over Xenoblade Chronicles or whatever...

In that case, most I've seen are fairly supportive of the changes. Awkward 12-year-old's sexy bikini raises a few eyebrows on this side of the pond, as does Japan's attitude toward women generally. While it's certainly legal in this part of the world, it's generally best to change that content to something that suits local tastes. Don't know about the others.

[Zorafim]

My understanding is the SEA initial translation wasn't bad, they just changed a lot of terms and names for the sake of appealing to locals or newbies.

This is how we get space elves. Just, throwing everything they've built up over the decades and doing what everyone else does, instead of taking what they've established and adding to it like most writers and designers would.


D&D is quite different in style from JRPGs. D&D is collaborative, individualized storytelling; JRPGs are rigid and didactic.

I still feel like much of the mechanics of rpgs were imported from America. HP, stats, turnbased combat. They took what we had and expanded on it, like how they got anime from Disney cartoons.


as does Japan's attitude toward women generally.

Ironically, I find women in japanese media to be far better written then women in american, on average. Most may only exist for fan service, but at least they do something. American female characters seem to only exist to decorate a man's arm.

[TaigaUC]

Fan service stuff is just fan service, people shouldn't expect it to be something deep or riveting.
There's plenty of great Japanese media with absolutely amazing female characters, but those don't get anywhere near as much attention, because they're not designed to appeal via fan service.
As Zorafim said, Japanese female characters tend to be far, far better written. It helps that they are written as feminine females, instead of trying to write them as copies of masculine males.
Some good examples off-hand that I personally thought were great: Holo (Spice and Wolf), Maou (Maou to Yuusha), Nausicaa (Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind). Or anything Ghibli.

I've spoken to a few Japanese female friends and they say they aren't treated badly, and have many times felt glad to be female and not male.
I lean more towards hearing personal first hand experience from actual Japanese females than whatever the West makes up in an attempt to make themselves look good by comparison.
Countries are always trying to tell their own people that life there is better than any other country, otherwise people would just go elsewhere.

Of course, there are situations where a female may be looked down upon or treated worse, but I think the same goes anywhere, and also in reverse for males.
I think that in a lot of situations, people assume that females are singled out for bad treatment.
But people also tend to focus entirely on whether females are treated badly, while completely ignoring that males receive the same treatment or worse.

I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a lot of good and bad going on in the world, and we only hear snippets here and there.
Those small snippets often shape our overall view, because we don't have anything else to go on. It's very easy to fall for this trap.
The media knows and takes advantage of this. It's called biased reporting.
But a person can still be aware that there's always something else going on that we've never heard of.
You'd be surprised how many things are often completely different from what we've been taught since birth.