100% consistent god clients

[Flaoc]

uhhh what? everytime i logged in due to having to restart cause of inf tunnel i got the best possible client.. its not just me either i got in and my teammates were talking about it cause all of them were getting perfect clients themselves

whats going on? did sega finally get their heads out of their asses? if so best update ever

[EvilMag]

I'm noticing it too. I notice things are loading a lot quicker...

Patch notes said this:
The Room Item selection screen in the PC version has been changed to use a [Paged Style System] as a measure to reduce the load.

Think this is the reason?

[Z-0]

Can confirm.

Also all my team.

[Asuka~]

I'm noticing it too. I notice things are loading a lot quicker...

Patch notes said this:
The Room Item selection screen in the PC version has been changed to use a [Paged Style System] as a measure to reduce the load.

Think this is the reason?

I wonder... But yeah, no real stutter or anything. Woooo. :-)

[Z-0]

[spoiler-box]http://puu.sh/ly6De/0ffe7d2434.png[/spoiler-box]

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[Asuka~]

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Yeah I was getting like 4 seconds on Lillipa, 4 on Amduscia and 3 on Sanctum... Using Inspector though. :x

[Shadowth117]

Come to think of it, I had perfect going in earlier. Logging in again got me it again with no hassle. This is pretty awesome, honestly. Maybe its related to optimizations for PS4 and EP4 in general?

[spoiler-box]also inb4 ep4 readds it[/spoiler-box]

[Azure Falcon]

Loading tunnels have gone from 10-15 seconds down to 2-3 seconds and the normal lobby stuttering mess is buttery smooth currently. This must be some kind of glitch, I refuse to believe Sega have finally fixed this game's horrible performance problems.

[isCasted]

I noticed something weird with Nvidia Inspector. This is what my settings usually look like:
[spoiler-box]
http://i.imgur.com/H5nItAv.png
http://i.imgur.com/a8t4Vzn.png
[/spoiler-box]
And this is what happens when I start the game:
[spoiler-box]
http://i.imgur.com/beumyTF.png
http://i.imgur.com/oztrWKL.png
[/spoiler-box]
Flags don't change, but names do?



Anyway... DAYUM. I'm so glad to have consistent FPS now. It still drops during load times, but now it's not painful to be in lobbies!

[wahahaha]

Best update of the year

[Flaoc]

it broke out

yeah buddy

[Nyansan]

No wonder everything loads so fast now. 10/10 GJ sega

[ZerotakerZX]

I thought my PC is shitty all this time, Thanks Sega!

[Ryziou]

Calling it, it'll break next maint.

[TaigaUC]

My 32-bit XP old PC can't boot PSO2 anymore. When it's supposed to open the window, nothing happens at all.
I dual booted to Win7 and it worked immediately.

So whatever they did probably screwed 32-bit XP install.
Not important to me though. I just have the old PC around to run incompatible stuff.

[Atmius]

Clearly it's a bug, and will be fixed with emergency maintenance.

[Crevox]

I'm not really understanding what you guys mean. What do you mean "perfect client?"

[Sandmind]

My 32-bit XP old PC can't boot PSO2 anymore. When it's supposed to open the window, nothing happens at all.
I dual booted to Win7 and it worked immediately.

So whatever they did probably screwed 32-bit XP install.
Not important to me though. I just have the old PC around to run incompatible stuff.

To be fair, Window no longer support XP since a few years now. So unless Sega get a buttload of complaint, I don't see this change being reverted.

And @Crevox, perfect client mean = no loading lag or lag in general. Which include weapon switching from someone else in the mpa.

[Tunga]

I don't mind them dropping support for old moldy stuff like XP. Tech has to progress someway.

[Ordy]

I'm not really understanding what you guys mean. What do you mean "perfect client?"

Before the patch, the game loaded the client with random performance drops at start. You could either have a "bad client" with a huge FPS drop on weapon switch, huge area transition time, lag ... or a "good/perfect/god client" with close to 0 FPS drops, smooth game, and short area transitions.

So we constantly had to start the game to check how bad it was, close the game, restart .. and so on, until we could find a perfect or at least decent client.

Now the game doesn't seem to load "bad clients" anymore, this patch is better than porn for people who care about loading time/FPS drops.

You can read more about it in this thread: http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228755

[Dammy]

To be fair, Window no longer support XP since a few years now. So unless Sega get a buttload of complaint, I don't see this change being reverted.

it was supported last year , but yeah, i see what you mean
by dumping XP completely, SEGA improved it for other OS

[Strobo_Lemon]

Load times have been smoother, that's for sure. Really good update. GJ SEGA

[Crevox]

I never experienced lag when swapping weapons and stuff, but there is that funky delay when loading into areas. My computer is pretty good though, running the game at 144 FPS/max graphics/4x SGSSAA/60+ FPS in 12 man party.

I'm curious now and looking forward to trying the new patch.

[Z-0]

I run on a GTX980 with an i7, but I definitely noticed this sort of stuff.

Think about when in a 12-man MPA and you might get annoying stutters, or when you go to load the options menu and it freezes for a little bit before progressing, or when you load maps and it just stutters a hell of a lot, causing the load time to go higher.

This is the kind of stuff that a "bad client" makes worse, and it affected everyone, although to different degrees depending on your PC. You'll also notice it more if you do stuff like weapon-switch stepping and care about your loading times as much as possible, as well.

Since the new maintenance, all loads are smooth and no weapons make me drop FPS at all.

[Crevox]

That sounds exciting, cause yeah, the FPS does spike when the game wants to load things on the fly. If they optimized that, I'm looking forward to trying it out.

[Tunga]

The stutter, load times and freezes for the menu system is just awful. Did this neverland update fix that?

[Z-0]

Yes, it did.

[dr apocalipsis]

So, emergency maintenance to fix this and Sega distributing 30GB IDE drives to install the game.

[Meteor Weapon]

So...did they fix alt-tabbing crash?

[Aine]

This already happened once (XP not being able to launch the game) last year, after SEGA had announced it was dropping XP support, and it was quietly fixed.

But really, nobody should still be using XP in 2015...

[Flaoc]

i dont even desync anymore at low fps! this is the god update for sure

[wefwq]

Goddamn, lobby are now buttery smooth i can't believe they actually fix this lag.
This was unbelieveable i almost wet my pants.

I think it's time for me to crank up these graphic options back.

Map loading are also blazing fast now, i think having them playing SSD advertisement actually do something good to the game, huh.

[TheszNuts]

Makes up for the loss of patch XD

[wefwq]

So...did they fix alt-tabbing crash?
I just tried the fullscreen mode, it seems the crash are still there :-?
Though virtual fullscreen are now GOAT due to massive performance improvement fix.

[EvilMag]

http://pso2.jp/players/support/measures/?id=7406

Oh please god tell me this is a different issue.

[ZER0 DX]

Says something about the game not being able to start on specific operating system environments, so that's probably referring to XP users not being able to launch the game anymore. I can't believe they got enough complaints about that.

[LonelyGaruga]

That one is an error that results in people being unable to launch PSO2. Seems that some PC models are unable to launch it.

No relation to the topic.

[wefwq]

http://pso2.jp/players/support/measures/?id=7406

Oh please god tell me this is a different issue.
PSO2 doesn't operate on certain enviroment something something.
Don't tell me it's the XP compatibility and they'll patch it back on the next maintenance and bring back client RNG.

[ShinMegamiSensei]

Seems to be windows 10 issues. Multiple people say "everything runs fine" that are not on 10, and the ones with invisible accessory menu, random black screens, etc, are on windows 10.

[Aine]

That refers specifically to not being able to boot up at all, though, which would be the XP issue. So assuming that's a side effect of the performance tuning there's a good chance it'll be rolled back in the next update. welp

[EvilMag]

I thought they weren't even obligated to help XP users since Microsoft stopped supporting the OS.

Are you serious Sega?

[Ryziou]

So...did they fix alt-tabbing crash?

Let me test that for you.

Edit: Nope. I also tried opening another game with Administrator.


Seems to be windows 10 issues. Multiple people say "everything runs fine" that are not on 10, and the ones with invisible accessory menu, random black screens, etc, are on windows 10.

Win10 user here. I had one issue today, which was getting a black screen while going into the Salon.

[Qualia]

I also tried opening another game with Administrator.

Different issue which can be prevented by disabling screen dimming in the UAC settings.

[Ryziou]

Different issue which can be prevented by disabling screen dimming in the UAC settings.

True but I just open the game that I want to play first before opening up PSO2 anyway.

Nice fix for people who don't know about this then I guess.

[Kondibon]

XP users not being able to launch the game anymore. Whelp. Time to quit I guess.
http://i.imgur.com/bklgnu7.gif

[The Walrus]

People are still using XP?

[Kondibon]

People are still using XP?My computer is incapable of using the internet with anything later than XP because the mother board is so old and my network card is incompatable.

[TaigaUC]

So I was right about the XP thing huh.
I'd still be using XP if it supported newer hardware. Those are the only times I change OS.
Whenever I install Windows 7 I have to jump through a bazillion hoops just to fix its functionality because they broke so many things going from XP -> Vista -> 7

It sounds like they're gonna look into it, so you probably won't have to quit, Kondibon.

[Kondibon]

So I was right about the XP thing huh.

It sounds like they're gonna look into it, so you probably won't have to quit, Kondibon.I feel like I should quit out of principal since XP really isn't supposed to be supported anymore.

I've been expecting something like this to happen since the support was dropped anyway.

[TaigaUC]

You'll miss out on exciting episode 4 though~
From what I heard, a lot of JP people have really old PCs, so it's doubtful that SEGA would intentionally kill XP support.

I was looking into JP laptop prices and they are literally double the prices where I live, so that's probably one of the reasons why so many JP don't upgrade.

[ZER0 DX]

It's incredibly insecure now anyway, if you can upgrade your PC components so you can at least run Windows 7 I would highly recommend it.

Also the fact that they were getting complaints about XP means there's a scary amount of JP players still on that OS. I knew Japan was behind the times when it came to PC's, but I didn't realize they were literally stuck in 2003 with them. Explains a lot about their shoddy steam releases that fans have been fixing in under a week lately. Tales of Zestiria says hello.

[Sora3100]

Tales of Zestiria is a decent port, the only "issue" it has is that it's not 60 fps.

[TaigaUC]

I was kinda under the impression that hackers/malware tends to focus on the newer OSes.
If people are poor enough to be stuck with XP then they probably aren't worth hacking, anyway.

My logic is probably flawed somewhere.

[Kondibon]

It's incredibly insecure now anyway, if you can upgrade your PC components so you can at least run Windows 7 I would highly recommend it.
I have windows 7 on one of my harddrives. I just can't connect to the internet with it.

[Sinon]

Goddamn, lobby are now buttery smooth i can't believe they actually fix this lag.
This was unbelieveable i almost wet my pants.

I think it's time for me to crank up these graphic options back.

Map loading are also blazing fast now, i think having them playing SSD advertisement actually do something good to the game, huh.

yay! I'm playing with an integrated graphics card and it runs so smoothly now :-o

[Flaoc]

im also on integrated due to laptop i turned the shaders on and put textures to high res and no desync issues at all

[Tunga]

If XP is still your main OS then it's time to upgrade guys for real.

[bhaal]

im also on integrated due to laptop i turned the shaders on and put textures to high res and no desync issues at all

720p or 1080p?

[Flaoc]

800x600 like always

[Ryziou]

Tales of Zestiria is a decent port, the only "issue" it has is that it's not 60 fps.

I'll have you know that there's a mod to fix that and it's really good. I stopped playing Zesty due to 1. PSO2 and 2. 30 fps

Really tempted to go back to it and install the 60fps mod.

Anyway, on topic, people still use XP? kek

[Sora3100]

I honestly didn't have a problem with it being 30 fps and I already finished zestiria.

[Ryziou]

I honestly didn't have a problem with it being 30 fps and I already finished zestiria.

I didn't have a problem, it just hurt my eyes. I'd have finished it if it weren't for these EQ hours honestly.

[Demon-]

Took them long enough! But yeah it runs much smoother now its great.

[Squal_FFVIII]

HOLY SHIT!

I just logged in now without coming here and I noticed that my game was the "good client" with just one try.

I tried it again and noticed it was the same very smooth. So I was like "wth is going on?" then I come here and see that everyone else is getting it.

Nice. Took sega like 3 years. But my 980ti is finally running the game "smooth" lmao.

[GHNeko]

they finally started working on that back log of theirs.

[wefwq]

Trying to crank up all graphic effect as high as possible while maintaining stable performance my toaster jump from level 2 to level 4.5 graphic maintaining stable 60fps.
Though i believe i can still goes further, but the machine goes too hot and i think i'll need pedestal fan to do that.

And it seems that some fancy effect still lagging the game slightly, such as big vardha explosion and the smoke that comes out from destroyed rocks on the forest.

[Z-0]

Well yeah, but that's nothing to do with clients, that's how good your PC is. :P

[Crystal_Shard]

Hmm, so it was an issue of XP compatibility after all. Was not expecting that Sega would get enough complaints that they would try fixing it though. To those asking why XP still, sometimes we just don't have the resources to upgrade, simple as that. So don't judge, unless you'd like to sponsor free upgrades for anyone still on XP... =w=

I do hope Sega doesn't break what they fixed in the process of fixing XP compatibility though.

[Chik'Tikka]

I made a video!!! I went down to 5 seconds from 15 for loading a mission+^_^+
Should be up in like a half hour or so+^_^+


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3A0fYm_MUk

[Shadowstarkirby]

My client definitely doesn't run like shit during 12 man MPAs anymore. Lagging behind MPAs has become nonexistent, most evident when I did Maggy earlier and used chain trigger, I could actually start a chain finish without having to compensate for lag by ending it 5-10 seconds early before it would disappear. The game feels much more seamless and enjoyable now.

[wefwq]

Well yeah, but that's nothing to do with clients, that's how good your PC is. :P
I dunno, but those effects always lagging me regardless of how low the settings i use.
Maybe i'll just tinker with some stuff and see if it'll goes away.

[Rayden]

I've still never, ever experienced this "good client / bad client" thing. The game just runs the same as it always has for me, which has always been smooth.

[Flaoc]

I've still never, ever experienced this "good client / bad client" thing. The game just runs the same as it always has for me, which has always been smooth.

wow arent you such a special snowflake

[HentaiLolicon]

wow arent you such a special snowflake
Or, his fps is already below 30 so he can't notice any difference

[Xaelouse]

Well that's one less thing to bitch about. We can call it a normal client at this point

[HentaiLolicon]

just hope it won't make our PCs go boom until next maint cos sega -_-

[Asuka~]

just hope it won't make our PCs go boom until next maint cos sega -_-

Yeah. ._. After reading that they're looking into XP issues... I'm trying to hold onto the rope of hope.

[FantasyHeaven]

I've still never, ever experienced this "good client / bad client" thing. The game just runs the same as it always has for me, which has always been smooth.
I can attest to this. These same guys who always complain about this probably just have some toasters with 2gb ram or something similar. Whole thing about different clients seems like a huge stretch anyways.

[Asuka~]

I can attest to this. These same guys who always complain about this probably just have some toasters with 2gb ram or something similar. Whole thing about different clients seems like a huge stretch anyways.

You're funny. [SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/zU5GW7z.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Shinamori]

I can attest to this. These same guys who always complain about this probably just have some toasters with 2gb ram or something similar. Whole thing about different clients seems like a huge stretch anyways.

I run i5-4960k, 8gb ram, 970 GTX. I still get bad clients (before this update). I'd lag like heck in a full lobby.

[Bellion]

The people that don't notice it probably have never once paid attention to their load times for timed quests. It's not that they don't experience it, but they just didn't care enough to notice crap.

[KLMS1]

Or, his fps is already below 30 so he can't notice any difference

My FPS is below 30 most of the time (due to excessively high graphics setting for my somewhat elderly hardware) and *I* could tell the difference...

[Z-0]

GTX980, i7-4790K and 8GB RAM here... definitely noticed all the bad clients.

[Flaoc]

honestly even people with godly comps had stuttering and thats not really the load time though said stuttering affected load times anyway not to mention weaker comps could infact desync before this update and they also had to restart a trillion times just to have a decent client where they get minimal to no stutter even on the lowest damn settings (actually besides framerate low and high stuttered the exact same before this update)

[HentaiLolicon]

I can attest to this. These same guys who always complain about this probably just have some toasters with 2gb ram or something similar. Whole thing about different clients seems like a huge stretch anyways.
looks like i'm on toaster T_T *goes emo in corner*
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/IoOZYUQ.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

P/S: Recently, somehow, gameguard threads and pso2.exe got exposed in my task manager. I'm wondering if someone have that too

[Shinamori]

I never paid attention until Shadow should that video, honestly.

[TaigaUC]

JP friend with a VAIO that nearly always lags to hell during boss EQs was able to do XH PD without lagging to hell.
Though it just sometimes works like that. Will take some time to confirm that it's because of the new client, but I suspect it is.

Personally, I haven't paid much attention to whether it's been jerking less for me than before. I only got the "bad client" once in a while.
Need to ask my other friend who said PSO2 has been choppy as hell since it started freezing after log out.

[dr apocalipsis]

P/S: Recently, somehow, gameguard threads and pso2.exe got exposed in my task manager. I'm wondering if someone have that too

Good point.

It's kinda lame seeing this game limited to 1GB of memory usage for not being able to use a x64 executable.

[Tunga]

I can attest to this. These same guys who always complain about this probably just have some toasters with 2gb ram or something similar. Whole thing about different clients seems like a huge stretch anyways.

Are you going to show us your neverland PC?

[KuroNeko77]

I'm also running on a toaster laptop, and I noticed the loadings improvement, as well as better performance overall.

[SPOILER-BOX]
https://i.gyazo.com/c9496bf82b281cb5e1edb9d6cf64d377.png
[/SPOILER-BOX]

I can finally go back to playing in Virtual Fullscreen while keeping 50~60 fps (max setting, except for shadows set to 3), which hasn't been possible since they introduced UQs last year.

[Squal_FFVIII]

I can attest to this. These same guys who always complain about this probably just have some toasters with 2gb ram or something similar. Whole thing about different clients seems like a huge stretch anyways.


Nah, try a OC 4790K (4.6) 16 gigs of HyperX Savage 2400mhz ram, and a EVGA SC 980ti with 2 SSD's and a WD Black HDD for mass storage.

I can smash on pretty much any game that isn't a complete mess like black ops 3 (lmao). Even poorly optimized games like The Evil Within run at a smooth 60fps on my rig. Tomb Raider, MGS5, The Vanishing Of Ethan Carter, and of course my modded skyrim with tons of 2-4K texture mods/lighting mods/weather mods, etc etc. All run butter smooth at 60fps.

Not trying to show off, i'm just being "real" =P

Yet even with my rig I noticed the "bad client". The bad client would make my rig feel like I was playing on a toaster.

PSO2 is the only game that I own that ran like shit. I always found that retarded as hell seeing as all these other games I have look like 100 times better than pso2 and they run awesomely on my rig.

[Liail]

I'm on windows 10, after the patch was the first time ever that I didn't crash after 10 minutes

edit: nevermind still crashing afterwards guess I just got lucky

[pkemr4]

playing this on a shitty laptop and it does run quite a bit better

[isCasted]

If they are going to investigate XP issues and it turns out that rollback is needed, I hope they provide a separate executable for them instead of rolling it back for everybody.

They should. The fact that they actually fixed bad clients gives me this hope that they can act smart about it.

[LordKaiser]

Windows XP still holding everything back in this day and age. The economy is also at fault here... The game runs very smooth but i can't run the vanilla launcher anymore because it reverts the settings and reverts the game to Japanese

[TaigaUC]

I can attest to this. These same guys who always complain about this probably just have some toasters with 2gb ram or something similar. Whole thing about different clients seems like a huge stretch anyways.

You missed the 3 before 2gb.

It's not a huge stretch when we're talking about a company that accidentally deleted the personal files of IIRC a few ten thousands of its customers.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Finally. I can run FF14 on high graphics at 60 frames outside of 24-person clusterfucks. No excuse for this game to chug so hard on my PC, and loading into TAs with 13 seconds on the clock already after all this time.

[HentaiLolicon]

Good point.

It's kinda lame seeing this game limited to 1GB of memory usage for not being able to use a x64 executable.
It's actually better, pso2.exe used more than 2GB of RAM before (which is suspected to be memoryleak issue), now the process stays still at 1.2GB even though I've left it running since last maint. And 32bit process can use up to 3.5GB of RAM at max.

[ZER0 DX]

I'm also running on a toaster laptop, and I noticed the loadings improvement, as well as better performance overall.

[SPOILER-BOX]
https://i.gyazo.com/c9496bf82b281cb5e1edb9d6cf64d377.png
[/SPOILER-BOX]

I can finally go back to playing in Virtual Fullscreen while keeping 50~60 fps (max setting, except for shadows set to 3), which hasn't been possible since they introduced UQs last year.


I think I have the toaster award in the bag. Vita actually runs the game better.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/aLPT7oU.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

I'd get a new laptop but I don't really see the need when I have a perfectly good PC with two GTX 680's and an i7 4770k. Just sucks when I'm not at home to use it. Like today.

[Dammy]

I think I have the toaster award in the bag. Vita actually runs the game better.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/aLPT7oU.png[/SPOILER-BOX]


cant beat that, dude

[ZER0 DX]

Actually, I can. I still have a old Packard Bell Legend 747 PC running windows 3.1 from 1993 in the basement somewhere. It's got a blazing fast 33 MHz processor, 250 MB HDD, and 4 MB RAM. I'd try to get PSO2 to run on that but the universe might cave in on itself if I'm successful.

[HentaiLolicon]

lol dude, take good care of it, in about 3-5years, you can put it on auction

[Tunga]

Actually, I can. I still have a old Packard Bell Legend 747 PC running windows 3.1 from 1993 in the basement somewhere. It's got a blazing fast 33 MHz processor, 250 MB HDD, and 4 MB RAM. I'd try to get PSO2 to run on that but the universe might cave in on itself if I'm successful.

I wish i could have a PC like that :(

[Gamemako]

I still haven't seen any improvement to load times or performance. I have, however, been getting hit several times at once by the same attack lately. Makes any mistake quite deadly, even with decent HP. Might as well start running a limit break build at this rate.

[TaigaUC]

I didn't have much storage space, so after each Magatsu I quit to lobby and was surprised by how quickly it loaded.
It usually freezes/jerks a little after leaving to lobby, but it didn't.

Dunno if that was because there just weren't many people standing around, or not.

[Z-0]

The jerks and freezes in the lobby depend on your client performance, so yes, this update affected that.

[TaigaUC]

I wonder if they'll expand the 1gb memory limit for Episode 4.
Would the higher-res diffuse, spec and normal maps fit into the current 1gb?
And I'm not at all familiar with Vita, but I have to wonder if the Vita happens to have a 1gb limit.

[dr apocalipsis]

Graphical stuff relies on GPU bruteforce and VRAM, so they can keep their ancient 32bit executable like forever.

[TaigaUC]

:/

I should have known that, but forgot for some reason.
My memory has been so rubbish lately.

[Maenara]

Actually, I can. I still have a old Packard Bell Legend 747 PC running windows 3.1 from 1993 in the basement somewhere. It's got a blazing fast 33 MHz processor, 250 MB HDD, and 4 MB RAM. I'd try to get PSO2 to run on that but the universe might cave in on itself if I'm successful.

You could probably get PSO2 running on minimum settings at about 30 FPS.

[TaigaUC]

I got PSO2 running on Oracle VM Virtualbox a year or so back.
It just displayed the character and some broken background bits. Looked awful, but it worked.

[Squal_FFVIII]

Have any of you tested the 120fps and unlimited fps settings in the launcher?

I did some testing and the "bad" client seems to still be there if you choose those settings.

I'm not really complaining since I play with the 60fps setting because my monitor is only a 60hz monitor so it can only display 60fps so anything over 60fps is useless for me. Plus I use vsync for no screen tearing.

But I just thought it was interesting that the benefits are only for those who play with 60fps option in the launcher.

My game feels very smooth now with the 60fps option but changing it to unlimited makes the lobby very stuttery again.

[seilent]

IMO it's better to set the setting into unlimited, then use FPS limiter app like RTSS, works much better for me at least.

also i noticed PSO2 doesn't go well with flip queue size = 1, have to set it at 2 to make it smoother. that FQS 1 seems to trigger the bad client (i see my GPU only have 60% - 70% usage with that)

[Asuka~]

Yeah I do a similar thing apart from using Nvidia Inspector to cap game at 120fps. I set the pre-rendered frames (FQS on AMD cards like seilent said) at 2 and its running decent.

[Dammy]

so , XP issue is fixed, any perfomance changes?

[Ryziou]

so , XP issue is fixed, any perfomance changes?

I haven't experienced any myself, just feels the same.

All is good.

[pkemr4]

should i be setting the pre-rendered frames higher? mines is set to default settings in inspector.

[Asuka~]

should i be setting the pre-rendered frames higher? mines is set to default settings in inspector.

2-3 is alright. Depending on your settings though, assuming you have the same settings or similar as on the Nvidia and AMD Anti-Aliasing thread... 2-3 should be fine. Though, I noticed with 3 and during long, Rafoie inc bursts - sometimes the game lagged/froze apart from my own character and I could still attack mobs but do no damage or anything for a second - few seconds then everything else started to sync back into place. With 2 and during those bursts, no problems whatsoever. Play around with it honestly. If with 3 you're not getting any sort of 'lag' or anything of the sort, then that's all-clear. If not, then 2.

Just a note, the Max Pre-Rendered Frames thing is called Flip Queue Size on AMD cards.