let's talk pd and double spawn ing point [Archive]

TaigaUC

Dec 9, 2015, 06:58 AM

Shinmarizu

Dec 9, 2015, 06:59 AM

It does seem like those spots spawn the Falzes repeatedly.
In 3 runs:
Bottom left: 2 Falz Hunar, 3 Deo Hunar, 3 Double
Top Mid: 5 Deo Hunar, 1 Apprentice, 3 Double

Also, no Nero drops from any of them running 250%+tri50.

arkeido

Dec 9, 2015, 07:06 AM

http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?plugin=ref&host=pso2&page=%E6%B0%B7%E4%B8%8A%E3%81%AE%E3%83%A1%E3%83%AA %E3%83%BC%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9E%E3%8 2%B94&src=%E6%B0%B7%E4%B8%8A4map.png

So far...
D2: Ringadha
E1: Nyau
C1: Double/Angel
C2: Idetta
C3: Double/Grandmaprentis
A3: Hunar/Double
A2: Double

0 Dio & 0 Nero from all that Falz :-?

TaigaUC

Dec 9, 2015, 07:07 AM

I only saw one Deo/Dio the entire time. Woohooooo

For a moment, I thought that said "Grandmapenis".

dr apocalipsis

Dec 9, 2015, 07:10 AM

I got 9 phantom stones on 1 full run and 2 crashed runs. It only asks for 60 stones per 20% Ares. So I guess that's free ares for all. Given I will go Light and Fire Austere, dunno what would I do with an Ares Rod.

I took down a Dio on my own in about 3-4 minutes. I was left alone because I missed some code.

Selphea

Dec 9, 2015, 07:17 AM

If they're giving out Ares this freely I expect after the usual Xmas boost week, Ep4 and 14★s are going to be a huge step up.

Shinmarizu

Dec 9, 2015, 07:24 AM

If they're giving out Ares this freely I expect after the usual Xmas boost week, Ep4 and 14★s are going to be a huge step up.

I'm almost counting on that. They better not make 14★s a stone grind...

TaigaUC

Dec 9, 2015, 07:32 AM

I only got 2 Ares stones after 3 runs.

Z-0

Dec 9, 2015, 07:36 AM

I'd much rather 14* to be a stone grind (that isn't tied to EQs... hello Austere) than an RNG fest. <_>

TaigaUC

Dec 9, 2015, 07:50 AM

Stones are still RNG~

I wish they'd always give stones for clears. At least then you're guaranteed to get something.

Maenara

Dec 9, 2015, 07:58 AM

Did 3 runs, got two Deos, both were in C-1.

Azure Falcon

Dec 9, 2015, 08:02 AM

B2, B3, C2, D1, D2 and maybe E2 seem to be the places that don't spawn anything worthwhile, I've only had time wasting trash mobs and Decol Malluda in those locations. Depending on how the spawns work I'm thinking running between E1 and A2 without going across B2 and D2 (basically an odd S shape) would probably be ideal.

Also Nyau isn't a guaranteed Gal spawn, I had a GGG from one of them.

Aine

Dec 9, 2015, 08:05 AM

stones are too easy

real talk I prefer the VH-SH Elder age of PSO2 where top tier weapons were lottery prizes and they had broken potentials so you could bring something unique to the MPA

sparab

Dec 9, 2015, 08:40 AM

4 full runs, 0 dio, 0 stone

Never going there again until a farm route is discovered

Ahri

Dec 9, 2015, 08:43 AM

4 runs, 12 dio, 0 nero and 1 PD stone.

250% + 50% triboost.

Maninbluejumpsuit

Dec 9, 2015, 08:55 AM

Super tired but this is what I recall:

Top middle = Double, Apprentice
Top right = Nyau (Gryphon, Spiderwoman)
Right = Bleu Ringarda
Center = always toy robot
Left = Bird Darkers
Bottom left = Hunar -> Dio Brando, Double, Nyau (Spiderwoman)
Bottom middle = Apprentice

That matches up with this image I was linked

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVyDgDwVEAAhn0G.png:large

Want to try running that back and forth with an MPA sometime.

Z-0

Dec 9, 2015, 09:41 AM

stones are too easy

real talk I prefer the VH-SH Elder age of PSO2 where top tier weapons were lottery prizes and they had broken potentials so you could bring something unique to the MPA
I would love this but I kinda just wanna TA and not being able to because I have to win the lottery or grind until I die kind of sucks.

Azure Falcon

Dec 9, 2015, 10:28 AM

That matches up with this image I was linked

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVyDgDwVEAAhn0G.png:large

Want to try running that back and forth with an MPA sometime.

If you're going to be doing that path you may as well extend it out a bit to cover the Nyau spawn and another Double spawn too.

http://i.imgur.com/sWxprzc.png

Unless of course this quest is just going to become a shit show just like TOT, with people only interested in farming for one specific boss rather than all of the ones that can drop 12/13*s.

oratank

Dec 9, 2015, 11:50 AM

better than run in circle

a2 is shit boss no need to go there at all

Saagonsa

Dec 9, 2015, 01:21 PM

better than run in circle

a2 is shit boss no need to go there at all

Dio and Double can spawn in A2 though

AmanoMai

Dec 9, 2015, 01:22 PM

timed ability Tundra should work on this EQ right?

Xaelouse

Dec 9, 2015, 01:26 PM

Yes
And that path is like..only slightly better than running in a circle. Not sure if JPs will even care

pkemr4

Dec 9, 2015, 01:47 PM

is there a established farming route yet?

Azure Falcon

Dec 9, 2015, 03:15 PM

Yes
And that path is like..only slightly better than running in a circle. Not sure if JPs will even care
If by only slightly better you mean cutting out 3 major time wasting slow trash mob spawn points (B2, D2, E2), then... sure? Cutting off A2 is dumb as hell since it can spawn Hunar or Double, plus you're right next to it.

D1 and E1 is arguable, personally I think it's a waste of time since you're going through another slow mob spawn (with the potential to be a Decol) for the iffy chance of a Nyau that spawns Gal. But then I don't care about Gal weapons, where it seems most players do. Considering he doesn't seem to spawn elsewhere I doubt most people want to cut that corner out.

EvilMag

Dec 9, 2015, 03:49 PM

I would love this but I kinda just wanna TA and not being able to because I have to win the lottery or grind until I die kind of sucks.

I don't mind the stone grind but what I can't stand is it being the only reliable way to get the exact 13* you want because the drop rates on them are either too abysmal or having no control over what drops.

Vatallus

Dec 9, 2015, 04:05 PM

Credit for image to Arkeido

http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?plugin=ref&host=pso2&page=%E6%B0%B7%E4%B8%8A%E3%81%AE%E3%83%A1%E3%83%AA %E3%83%BC%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9E%E3%8 2%B94&src=%E6%B0%B7%E4%B8%8A4map.png

So lets see from my runs...

E1 - Nyau - Gal
C1 - Apprentice/Double/Hunar/Dio
A3 - Double/Hunar/Angel/ Nyau - Gal
C3 - Apprentice or NPC EC

Scatter around some minor bosses and Umbras/Jokers in the other sections I didn't name.

Xion14Blade

Dec 10, 2015, 07:40 AM

Found a few SA's in my SA history, might be useful
[SPOILER-BOX]https://i.gyazo.com/e0fc7620f6de501c559d2f9ab32b291f.png[/SPOILER-BOX]
[SPOILER-BOX]https://i.gyazo.com/b7c1643968f46589cb01a3003ae0badc.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

EDIT: Here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/54ct4kemq34w7yw/stock38.sar?dl=0)'s the download for the second symbol art, since I found it to be the most efficient route.

jooozek

Dec 10, 2015, 08:23 AM

Xaelouse

Dec 10, 2015, 08:34 AM

Found a few SA's in my SA history, might be useful
[SPOILER-BOX]https://i.gyazo.com/e0fc7620f6de501c559d2f9ab32b291f.png[/SPOILER-BOX]
[SPOILER-BOX]https://i.gyazo.com/b7c1643968f46589cb01a3003ae0badc.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

these look better than the ones posted before at least

from swiki
http://i.imgur.com/TTBRvQE.jpg

Xaelouse

Dec 10, 2015, 09:22 AM

also apprentice spawns in c-1 as well

oratank

Dec 10, 2015, 10:08 AM

check on swiki and item record only saw double dagger and gal series
look like dio don't have anything with him but stone

TaigaUC

Dec 10, 2015, 09:30 PM

Well, this is ass. Everyone just wants to do their own thing, and when they don't get their way, they leave.
Quest is rubbish for EXP because people don't want to kill non bosses anymore.

Xaelouse

Dec 10, 2015, 09:54 PM

Do Ares weapons even drop from Dio Hunar?

wefwq

Dec 10, 2015, 09:56 PM

Why is farmer always ruin every single EQ without fail?

Vatallus

Dec 10, 2015, 09:56 PM

Do Ares weapons even drop from Dio Hunar?

He drops no 13*s. Only stones. His stone drops are generally better than Anga though.

Xaelouse

Dec 10, 2015, 10:01 PM

I'd see way more Anga than Dio though. eh Christmas isn't so good this year. If only there was a 13* area drop or something, would encourage people to stay for PSE burst at least

TaigaUC

Dec 10, 2015, 10:08 PM

I got a Caligula stone off Deo. Yay.

I still can't help but feel like the whole 13 star farming thing is bad game design.
The EQs put me to sleep last year too though. I skipped most of them.

Maninbluejumpsuit

Dec 10, 2015, 10:18 PM

Well, this is ass. Everyone just wants to do their own thing, and when they don't get their way, they leave.
Quest is rubbish for EXP because people don't want to kill non bosses anymore.

Why is farmer always ruin every single EQ without fail?

Welcome to phantasy thirteen-star online 2.

Anyway, so the farming route is from C1, backwards L to A3?

oratank

Dec 10, 2015, 10:27 PM

it depend on what you aim for since dio have no 13*

if you aim for him and his df friends then L route
if you aim for nya then a3 and e1

Charmeleon

Dec 10, 2015, 10:37 PM

In the 3 times I've done the EQ I've only seen Deo in A3, and nothing really good from C1. Seems best to just spawn A3 as often as possible, probably by going to C2 and back.

Achelousaurus

Dec 10, 2015, 11:22 PM

I got a Caligula stone off Deo. Yay.

I still can't help but feel like the whole 13 star farming thing is bad game design.
The EQs put me to sleep last year too though. I skipped most of them.
Farming beats rng fueled hunting every time in my book.
But I know what you mean and it's retarded.
Had people leave me at 2/12 when we had no boss for 9 minutes. As if starting a new mpa will make the rng spawn more bosses next time.

TaigaUC

Dec 11, 2015, 10:07 AM

I probably wouldn't mind farming so much if it wasn't always so damn specific.
It's always "do this one thing over and over that'll put you sleep" instead of "do a bunch of varied things that won't bore you to death".
Or "do this boring stuff over and over and maybe, just maybe, you might get one of the drops needed".

You want Nemesis? Farm Ultimate Naberius. You want Slave? Farm Ultimate Lilipa.
You want Skull weapons? Farm Free inner Kuronia or whatever it's called.
You want Ares? Ultimate Nab or Ultimate Lilipa. Gal Gryphon? Latest EQ.
Occasionally there'll be an extra source, eg. the current limited quest. But it's still not enough variation for me.

Current Badge gathering is done better. It feels like there are a bunch of sources for Badges, that I can do other stuff and they pile up by themselves.
It's a shame that Badge stuff is crap.

If we had a few more Challenge Quests, I'd probably play that more.

AmanoMai

Dec 11, 2015, 10:18 AM

If we had a few more Challenge Quests, I'd probably play that more.
idk
at this point challenge quest is also just another grind

TaigaUC

Dec 11, 2015, 10:39 PM

Because we only have two of them and everyone's sick to death of them already.
Even the new ARKS one is something fresh and interesting, but obviously doesn't last long and has garbage returns.

If they added like 10 CQs at once with the same quality as the ones we have now, I'm sure people would be pleased. I know I would.

But the problem SEGA then faces is how to herd players into a specific quest.
With how the block system works, parties would be all over the place.
That's one of the other reasons why we have single dripfeed and scheduled crap. Keeps everyone in order.

Rakurai

Dec 14, 2015, 09:05 AM

I wish the whole deal with the Falz boss themes playing wasn't exclusive to this quest.

It's nice to be able to hear Angel's theme again, even though it seldom makes it past the first verse before he dies.

Flaoc

Dec 14, 2015, 09:53 AM

i swear c1 is incredibly unreliable for spawns

jooozek

Dec 14, 2015, 09:55 AM

i swear c1 is incredibly unreliable for spawns

it's not, kill the trash that spawns in the block and it usually forces the boss spawn

Flaoc

Dec 14, 2015, 10:01 AM

nope its always huey 90% of the time or more

oratank

Dec 14, 2015, 10:11 AM

usually huey but boss can spawn after huey

Aine

Dec 14, 2015, 10:46 AM

http://i.imgur.com/5suJkCN.png

You need to go all the way to the edge of C1 (don't go too far and trigger D1 spawns) after clearing Huey because C1 has two different spawn triggers for some reason. Apprentice and Double might be the other way around, I'm not sure which is from which spawn point but it doesn't really matter. Off the top of my head I've seen Huey → Dio, Huey → Luther, and Apprentice → Double.

oratank

Dec 14, 2015, 10:58 PM

i tried run around the pillar at a3,c1 kinda work

Maenara

Dec 16, 2015, 07:42 AM

Running the EQ, did a Patty and Tea trial in A-3. Snow Banshee suddenly spawns in... A-2. I was watching the minimap, literally no one in the MPA touched A-2, so I have no idea how that happened.