Orbit bow freezes natural PP regen

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

https://twitter.com/SSoruton

Faster regen when sheathed, but...

Maybe how much PP regened by normal attacks is boosted as well?

[SilenWhisper]

Could be a bug/glitch

[raialeus]

Both potentials have the same wording, stating it will change the PP recovery rate, didn't understand it at first but now I see.
1st style will stop PP regen when weapon is unsheathed, boost PP regen rate when weapon is sheathed.
2nd style does the reverse and boost PP regen rate when weapon is unsheathed, and stop PP regen when weapon is sheathed.

I am going to go ahead and assume........the second part (Boost Attack and PP recovery rate) is the same for both styles

[Cyber Meteor]

That PP regen speed when seathed though is crazy :-o

[Flaoc]

original jp text

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW0yTiqUEAEnN-A.jpg

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

So... no raw damage boost anywhere on these things?

[Bellion]

It does have a damage boost.
威力が上昇

More accurately though, power boost.

[Charmeleon]

There's a new image on that twitter that shows 7002 and 7562 damage (8% increase). Dunno what the text says or what potential level this is though, assuming level 1.

[Ryziou]

7912 damage was level 3.

[suzaku0zero0]

Both potentials have the same wording, stating it will change the PP recovery rate, didn't understand it at first but now I see.
1st style will stop PP regen when weapon is unsheathed, boost PP regen rate when weapon is sheathed.
2nd style does the reverse and boost PP regen rate when weapon is unsheathed, and stop PP regen when weapon is sheathed.

I am going to go ahead and assume........the second part (Boost Attack and PP recovery rate) is the same for both styles

So which potential does any of you find better? I really cannot make up my mind. Wondering if fo or te pp regen still help recover pp when the potential stops it

[Bellion]

The first potential has around an 11% damage increase.
The second has around a 7% damage increase.
Both at level 3.

[Dammy]

they updated it on swiki
13 for first one, 8 for second

[Ryziou]

So which potential does any of you find better? I really cannot make up my mind. Wondering if fo or te pp regen still help recover pp when the potential stops it

Go Pot 1 if you can replenish PP fast e.g DB's/Wand

I'd probably go Pot 2 for stuff like Lawnchair, Bow? (if you only use bow)

[Maenara]

Leave it to Sega to offer two potentials on a weapon with the same description but fundamentally different effects.

[Poyonche]

Wow, Orbit set effect stinks.

Atk+50、Dex+30、Lightning resist+10

[Maenara]

It's only a 2 piece set, so it's not the worst.

[Achelousaurus]

Freeze pp regen when unsheathed. So, cannot regen any pp when attacking? Cause honestly that would be the dumbest potential yet.
Even dumber than long range damage boost on a DB.

[Dammy]

probably no automatic pp regen, but you can still get some with attacks

[Selphea]

Wow, Orbit set effect stinks.

Atk+50、Dex+30、Lightning resist+10

It's 1 unit but you can dual set it. Tianbital would be +140 ATK which is pretty decent especially for a 13* with 13% damage and what looks like a 60% APPR pot.

[Cyber Meteor]

You can also craft that unit while keeping the bonus set :-P

[Sandmind]

Looking at Swiki, I thought something was wrong when I saw Orbit weapon with Tatk, other than talis and wand ofc. Sure enough, Zieg also show it at his trade-in shop. Any thought for hybrid with sub FO or TE?

[delete the start of each weapon/class combo]

So... the damage boost is only when the weapon is in hand, right? Which mean it doesn't apply to tech casting outside of talis and wand. Aka, the Orbit serie is the 13* version of the toy darker candy themed weapon serie with their 950 Tatk at +10, no tech oriented latent/no FOTEBO able outside of only the later 3 having both. Unless you count the crazy pp recovery when sheated for X/FO. But then, only Orbit GUFO could be a thing as a gimmick chain build, and lack composite tech of FOGU.

*Sigh*

[LonelyGaruga]

Looks like the damage boost may apply regardless of whether or not the weapon is sheathed.

機動応変・一式 (Agile Response System One): 納刀、抜刀でPP回復速度が変化し、攻撃時のPP回復量(60?%)と威力(13%)が上昇。
(納刀時のPP回復速度(?%)上昇 抜刀時はPP自然回復が停止)

When sheathed, or unsheathed, PP recovery rate changes, PP recovery when attacking (60?%) and power increases (13%).
(Natural PP recovery when sheathed increases by (?%), natural PP recovery when unsheathed is stopped))

機動応変・二式 (Agile Response System Two): 納刀、抜刀でPP回復速度が変化し、攻撃時のPP回復量(40?%)と威力(8%)が上昇。
(納刀時のPP回復速度(?%)減少 抜刀時のPP回復速度(?%)上昇)

When sheathed, or unsheathed, PP recovery rate changes, PP recovery when attacking (40?%) and power increases (8%).
(Natural PP recovery when sheathed decreases by (?%), natural PP recovery when unsheathed increases by (?%))

The latter is an obvious choice for talis, the rest might be a little more nuanced. Depends on what the values end up being.

[mr.chills]

^ thank you for translating! was having a really hard time reading googled swiki :)

dawm, so pot1 is basically perfect for tmg

stacking with gunner's tmg(+1) and normal attack pp regen(up to 200%) with 60% of pot1 is almost like having a Queen Vera attached to a 13% damage pot 13*? niiice

grenades arent affected by pot1 either since its "natural when unsheathed" thats stopped and grenades ain't natural, cool

so tian with orbit tmg+leg is my new goal in life...

[Hrith]

That's such an incredible potential for melee and ranged weapons...
I guess it's time to get a 13* sword.

It sounds really awful on the card, though, since it cancels the force skill Charge PP Revival.

[LonelyGaruga]

The 13% damage boosting potential cancels out PP Charge Revival, but the 8% damage boosting one actually enhances it by a currently unknown increase. This increase should stack as a multiplier with PP Restorate and would benefit PP Convert, Super Treatment, and Ketos Proi's effects. Only issue is that the damage boost is a little on the weak side, but it's still merely around 1.5% weaker than max PB Ares.

[Selphea]

2nd pot might make FoBr or FoFi more viable with a Talis. The damage tradeoff is small compared to the higher multipliers especially on FoBr Weak Stance.

I wonder if PPC counteracts the first pot since it's a fixed number.

[Shinamori]

What about the dual blades?

[LonelyGaruga]

I wonder if PPC counteracts the first pot since it's a fixed number.

Doubt it, probably works the same way that PAs/techs disable PP regen. PP Convert just adds its value to natural recovery.

[Dia79]

what u guys think about knuncles? would one of these potential be good for knux or maybe is just best to go for austere?

[final_attack]

what u guys think about knuncles? would one of these potential be good for knux or maybe is just best to go for austere?

imo, Austere is still better in term of damage .... with Crazy skills, PP recovery is increased too ......

But yeah, would like to know if Orbit is good for Knuckles, since I want ★１３ for Knuckle too ._.

Stance 1, for Knuckle should I chose Orbit, then? :o

[sesiom000]

In my point of view potential 1 is good for melee weapons and potential 2 is good for ranged weapons including force weapons too.

[hoangsea]

first pot will be very good with knuckle, td, ds, katana

[Maenara]

There is no twin dagger/double saber/katana.

[Flaoc]

1st potential would be good with bow tbh damage and regen even when hitting stuff with arrows

[hoangsea]

so how 's ppl think about 13* knuckles
aus - orbit - kuron
which will be the best now ?

[Flaoc]

probs aus - ideal/orbit - ares for the best knuckles overall

[SlN]

probs aus - ideal/orbit - ares for the best knuckles overall

Actually, the Kuron knuckle trumps the Ares Nest because of Knuckle high pp cost. Also Ideal also beats Ares with the unit set. And please dont give me some mobbing BS, thats what chaos riser is for.

[Flaoc]

cant read huh then lemme make this easier for you

1. austere

2 orbit (if the 60% regen from hits beats the natural regen from limit break while doing the hits)

3. ideal

4. ares

[SlN]

cant read huh then lemme make this easier for you

1. austere

2/3 tie (ideal, orbit)

4. ares

1. austere

2. Orbit

3. Ideal / Kuron

4. God Hand w/ ult buster

5. Ares

[Louiseee]

1. austere

2. Orbit

3. Ideal / Kuron

4. God Hand w/ ult buster

5. Ares

Ok Kawaii Cartel. Lmfao.

[Flaoc]

1. austere

2. Orbit

3. Ideal / Kuron

4. God Hand w/ ult buster

5. Ares

coming from someone who hangs with infinity hunter, has played hubo chainsawd with both classes 75/75, puts vol stamina on their units, and gets rekt hardcore by lvl 60 quartz dragon you really are not credible.. oh lemme guess you also think skull katana and skull talis beat their ares equivalents. at best kuron knuckle is for dashing same with the katana. oh and ult buster god hand doesnt work on everything surely you realize this.

[SlN]

coming from someone who hangs with infinity hunter, has played hubo chainsawd with both classes 75/75, puts vol stamina on their units, and gets rekt hardcore by lvl 60 quartz dragon you really are not credible.. oh lemme guess you also think skull katana and skull talis beat their ares equivalents. at best kuron knuckle is for dashing same with the katana. oh and ult buster god hand doesnt work on everything surely you realize this.

Stamina + Life steal = Never die ;) . It was a Joke build for Ultimate these days I mainly just play Fo/Te or Ra/Hu... Also I already have the materials for 150 units just waiting for 5% week.