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Nanaha
Jan 18, 2016, 04:57 PM
Well really any significant potential changes that you remember. ie Innocent Appearance, etc

As for why, I'm building a template for potentials on this wiki, etc, etc, something, cirno is outdated, im still a rather new player, etc. And I don't know what potentials have changed in the past since cirno and now.

*been using cirno's since its convenient to copy paste the names over in a list.

Achelousaurus
Jan 18, 2016, 05:16 PM
TBH I wouldn't bother with cirno.
Just check swiki and with google translate and a little imagination all should be easy to understand.

If you just want to transliterate names google will tell you the Romaji for any Kanji/kana you enter and if you want a translation anyway, just enter each kanji one by one into google or something like http://jisho.org/

Nanaha
Jan 18, 2016, 05:42 PM
I honestly can't navigate swiki for the life of me. Is there a page which lists all the potentials + their effects?

Saagonsa
Jan 18, 2016, 05:44 PM
I honestly can't navigate swiki for the life of me. Is there a page which lists all the potentials + their effects?

I think this might be what you're looking for? http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E6%BD%9C%E5%9C%A8%E8%83%BD%E5%8A%9B

Nanaha
Jan 18, 2016, 05:52 PM
Any ideas on finding the most recent changes to the Potentials page?

For clarification(dont click this spoiler if you dont like alot of text)
Seriously don't click this if you're not prepared
[spoiler-box]
Enraged Stance
Hot-Blooded Heart
Mortality's Ante
Dynamic Reflection
Raging Inferno
Direct Style
Flash Cutter
Direct Assault
From Behind
Steadfast Reaper
Eternal Trap
Trap Release
Trap Activate
Trap Expert
Phantom Bullet
Chain Finale
Perfect Calamity
Immediate Dismissal
Intelligent Usage
Powerful Prophecy
Circuit Breakout
Strength Crystal
Heavens Divide
Judgment Time
Inevitable Judgment
Fragile Assault
Deadly Breeze
Rapid Reload
Sudden Pouncing
Strategic Stance
Great Strategic Stance
Rending Stance
Soul Rending Stance
Immediate Breathing
Physical Defense Stance
Technique Defense Stance
Obstinate Spirit
Immediate Strike
Immediate Destruction
Immediate Justice
Immediate Decree
Pursuing Strike
Pursuing Bonds
Crest of Carnage
Last Stand
Crushing Blow
Zero Effort
Spirit Collector
Spirit Radiance
Absolute Edge
Aerial Attack
Prayer's Form
Innocent Appearance
Burning Seal
Frozen Seal
Thunder Seal
Whispering Wind
Moonlit Ritual
Devil's Game
Crimson Crystal
Frozen Crystal
Freezing Strike
Thunder Crystal
Paralyzing Strike
Ancient Oath
Discerning Eye
Splendid Recovery
Lunar Deity
Healing Wind
Demonic Smile
Wind Protection
Immediate End
Exhausted Ambition
Black Heart
Lunar Eclipse
Adverse Vanity
Adverse Field
Breath of Life
Tune Conversion
Harmonic Conversion
Recovery Conversion
Inevitable Strike
Precision Sniping
Intense Battle Skill
Decree of Intent
Splendid Chase
Celestial Bullet
Vampiric Blade
Supreme Blessing
Light Formation
Mental Alignment
Skilled Trainer
Fortunate Omen
Determination
Wings of Fortune
Medicinal Knowledge
Instigator
Isolated Presence
Pursuing Flame
Restraining Crystal
Lightning Restriction
Leading Illusion
Inviting Chaos
Toxic Infection
Spirit Conversion
Golden Rule
Pure Hardwork
Breeze of Benevolence
Phantasmal Blessing
Craft Mastery
Aerial Burst
Wings of Darkness
Standard Meditation
Swift Hunter
Fatal Activity
Divine Blessings
Barbed Restraints
Immediate Wounds
Immediate Weakness
Shadow Formation
Twinkling Chain
Dancing Night Blossom
Pale Night Blossom
Limit Drive
Magic Pledge
Rear Fang Assault
Roar's Smasher
Zero Assault
Zero Logic
Apt Grafter
Apt Hammer
Apt Striker
Apt Sniper
Spring Breeze
Negative Hunter
Native Hunter
Machine Hunter
Dragon Hunter
Oceanid Hunter
Demon Hunter
Colossal Spirit
Negative Emblem
Dragon Emblem
Demon Emblem
Soaring Edge
Spiral Edge
Star Breaker
Blade Surfing
Celestial Cleave
Stunning Edge
Crescent Blade
Guilty Edge
Lashing Descent
Intertwining Grip
Lunatic Spinner
Shocking Grasp
Dancing Savage
Wild Round
Sliding Circle
Flickering Wave
Thrusting Spear
Discoidal Spear
Battle Cry Spear
Battle Cry Spear 2
Life Snag Spear
Sacred Spear
Aerial Gamboling
Aerial Gamboling 2
Kick-Slash Duet
Robust Collision
Gliding Blades
Jumping Waltz
Gyrating Edges
Bloody Flash
Lunatic Slasher
Rising Claw
Whirling Ring
Dancing Phantom
Mythical Flicker
Slamming Blast
Detaining Toss
Dancing Killer
Countless Slugging
Leading Punch
Altering Jab
Endless Pounding
Venus Maximum
Dancing Ensemble
Explosive Ensemble
Guillotine Ensemble
Kicking Ensemble
Grenade Shot
Precise Discharge
Sliding Shot
Concealed Shooting
Lightray Shower
Divine Wrath
Holy Cannon
Barrage Cannon
Celestial Cannon
Point-Blank Cannon
Violent Ride
Altering Cannon
Flame Cannon
Cosmic Crusher
Heroic Spin
Infinite Bullets
Celestial Aim
Extreme Reversal
Falling Trample
Brandish Splendor
Blossoming End
Dragon Wave
Master Bow
Intense Bow
Oracle Bow
Final Bow
Revolving Collision
Gleaming Riot
Swift Outrage
Destruction Rook
Ray Dispersion
Rising Phoenix
Divine Justice
Star Divide
Rampaging Falcon
Great Sun Deity
Aurora Blessing
Meteor Blessing
Paradise Blessing
Burning Hearts
[/spoiler-box]

I need to add in Level descriptions for all of that. Using Cirno is easist since I can copy paste, but it's just not all up to date anymore. Hence finding the most recent pot changes is best, since I only need to watch out for those.

*I still need to find orbit, etc potentials too

Macmaxi
Jan 18, 2016, 05:58 PM
swiki is the only good place for gathering information, you wont find more anywhere else. If you are really trying to mirror a wiki without it, it's just going to take you a long time.

Nanaha
Jan 18, 2016, 06:09 PM
Well on a side note, has there actually been any other potentials nerfed except Innocent Appearance

-really wouldn't know being new-

Bellion
Jan 18, 2016, 06:36 PM
Guld Milla's pot Celestial Bullet I believe is the EN translation, was nerfed. It used to be like heal 3%/4%/5% on your damage dealt, and the amount you could heal up to was uncapped. 3% was level 1 potential, 4% for level 2, etc.
Now it's heal 0.3%, 0.4%, 0.5% based on your damage dealt and capped to 50HP heals per hit.

Other than that, everything else has been buffed.

jooozek
Jan 18, 2016, 07:00 PM
i think elysion potential got nerfed too

Tunga
Jan 18, 2016, 07:11 PM
There is the bloody nails (11* dagger )that boost Symp drive 20% but cirno says 14% or something

Flaoc
Jan 18, 2016, 07:12 PM
i think elysion potential got nerfed too


Well on a side note, has there actually been any other potentials nerfed except Innocent Appearance

5char

Selphea
Jan 18, 2016, 07:14 PM
Cirno is full of typos in general anyway, IIRC there was some pot (Discerning Eye?) where it listed one set of percentages on the weapon page and a different set on the potential page. Been ages since I've used it so I really can't remember.

jooozek
Jan 18, 2016, 07:57 PM
5char

oh, so that's what it's called :wacko:

Flaoc
Jan 18, 2016, 08:23 PM
oh, so that's what it's called :wacko:

indeed 8-)

NoobSpectre
Jan 18, 2016, 09:15 PM
Well really any significant potential changes that you remember. ie Innocent Appearance, etc

As for why, I'm building a template for potentials on this wiki, etc, etc, something, cirno is outdated, im still a rather new player, etc. And I don't know what potentials have changed in the past since cirno and now.

*been using cirno's since its convenient to copy paste the names over in a list.

I believe Immediate Strike used to be 1/2/3% before they buffed it to 3/4/5?6?% or something, Bio's pot is still 6/7/8% though.

Editted: nvm, Its actually some pot that increase fury stance effectiveness. Still, I'm sure it is better than previous 1/2/3% though.

Nanaha
Jan 18, 2016, 11:38 PM
Guld Milla's pot Celestial Bullet I believe is the EN translation, was nerfed. It used to be like heal 3%/4%/5% on your damage dealt, and the amount you could heal up to was uncapped. 3% was level 1 potential, 4% for level 2, etc.
Now it's heal 0.3%, 0.4%, 0.5% based on your damage dealt and capped to 50HP heals per hit.

Other than that, everything else has been buffed.


I believe Immediate Strike used to be 1/2/3% before they buffed it to 3/4/5?6?% or something, Bio's pot is still 6/7/8% though.

Editted: nvm, Its actually some pot that increase fury stance effectiveness. Still, I'm sure it is better than previous 1/2/3% though.

Thanks for the info, I'll be sure to watch out for them when I enter in the code.

*edit: Curiously enough, Cirno is up to date on these two. Go figure.

Sirius-91
Jan 19, 2016, 03:57 AM
Any ideas on finding the most recent changes to the Potentials page?

For clarification(dont click this spoiler if you dont like alot of text)
Seriously don't click this if you're not prepared
[spoiler-box]
Enraged Stance
Hot-Blooded Heart
Mortality's Ante
Dynamic Reflection
Raging Inferno
Direct Style
Flash Cutter
Direct Assault
From Behind
Steadfast Reaper
Eternal Trap
Trap Release
Trap Activate
Trap Expert
Phantom Bullet
Chain Finale
Perfect Calamity
Immediate Dismissal
Intelligent Usage
Powerful Prophecy
Circuit Breakout
Strength Crystal
Heavens Divide
Judgment Time
Inevitable Judgment
Fragile Assault
Deadly Breeze
Rapid Reload
Sudden Pouncing
Strategic Stance
Great Strategic Stance
Rending Stance
Soul Rending Stance
Immediate Breathing
Physical Defense Stance
Technique Defense Stance
Obstinate Spirit
Immediate Strike
Immediate Destruction
Immediate Justice
Immediate Decree
Pursuing Strike
Pursuing Bonds
Crest of Carnage
Last Stand
Crushing Blow
Zero Effort
Spirit Collector
Spirit Radiance
Absolute Edge
Aerial Attack
Prayer's Form
Innocent Appearance
Burning Seal
Frozen Seal
Thunder Seal
Whispering Wind
Moonlit Ritual
Devil's Game
Crimson Crystal
Frozen Crystal
Freezing Strike
Thunder Crystal
Paralyzing Strike
Ancient Oath
Discerning Eye
Splendid Recovery
Lunar Deity
Healing Wind
Demonic Smile
Wind Protection
Immediate End
Exhausted Ambition
Black Heart
Lunar Eclipse
Adverse Vanity
Adverse Field
Breath of Life
Tune Conversion
Harmonic Conversion
Recovery Conversion
Inevitable Strike
Precision Sniping
Intense Battle Skill
Decree of Intent
Splendid Chase
Celestial Bullet
Vampiric Blade
Supreme Blessing
Light Formation
Mental Alignment
Skilled Trainer
Fortunate Omen
Determination
Wings of Fortune
Medicinal Knowledge
Instigator
Isolated Presence
Pursuing Flame
Restraining Crystal
Lightning Restriction
Leading Illusion
Inviting Chaos
Toxic Infection
Spirit Conversion
Golden Rule
Pure Hardwork
Breeze of Benevolence
Phantasmal Blessing
Craft Mastery
Aerial Burst
Wings of Darkness
Standard Meditation
Swift Hunter
Fatal Activity
Divine Blessings
Barbed Restraints
Immediate Wounds
Immediate Weakness
Shadow Formation
Twinkling Chain
Dancing Night Blossom
Pale Night Blossom
Limit Drive
Magic Pledge
Rear Fang Assault
Roar's Smasher
Zero Assault
Zero Logic
Apt Grafter
Apt Hammer
Apt Striker
Apt Sniper
Spring Breeze
Negative Hunter
Native Hunter
Machine Hunter
Dragon Hunter
Oceanid Hunter
Demon Hunter
Colossal Spirit
Negative Emblem
Dragon Emblem
Demon Emblem
Soaring Edge
Spiral Edge
Star Breaker
Blade Surfing
Celestial Cleave
Stunning Edge
Crescent Blade
Guilty Edge
Lashing Descent
Intertwining Grip
Lunatic Spinner
Shocking Grasp
Dancing Savage
Wild Round
Sliding Circle
Flickering Wave
Thrusting Spear
Discoidal Spear
Battle Cry Spear
Battle Cry Spear 2
Life Snag Spear
Sacred Spear
Aerial Gamboling
Aerial Gamboling 2
Kick-Slash Duet
Robust Collision
Gliding Blades
Jumping Waltz
Gyrating Edges
Bloody Flash
Lunatic Slasher
Rising Claw
Whirling Ring
Dancing Phantom
Mythical Flicker
Slamming Blast
Detaining Toss
Dancing Killer
Countless Slugging
Leading Punch
Altering Jab
Endless Pounding
Venus Maximum
Dancing Ensemble
Explosive Ensemble
Guillotine Ensemble
Kicking Ensemble
Grenade Shot
Precise Discharge
Sliding Shot
Concealed Shooting
Lightray Shower
Divine Wrath
Holy Cannon
Barrage Cannon
Celestial Cannon
Point-Blank Cannon
Violent Ride
Altering Cannon
Flame Cannon
Cosmic Crusher
Heroic Spin
Infinite Bullets
Celestial Aim
Extreme Reversal
Falling Trample
Brandish Splendor
Blossoming End
Dragon Wave
Master Bow
Intense Bow
Oracle Bow
Final Bow
Revolving Collision
Gleaming Riot
Swift Outrage
Destruction Rook
Ray Dispersion
Rising Phoenix
Divine Justice
Star Divide
Rampaging Falcon
Great Sun Deity
Aurora Blessing
Meteor Blessing
Paradise Blessing
Burning Hearts
[/spoiler-box]

I need to add in Level descriptions for all of that. Using Cirno is easist since I can copy paste, but it's just not all up to date anymore. Hence finding the most recent pot changes is best, since I only need to watch out for those.

*I still need to find orbit, etc potentials too

https://github.com/PolCPP/PSO2es-Translation/blob/master/json/InforTextItemPotential.txt

Nanaha
Jan 19, 2016, 04:18 PM
I did not know that apparently potentials go to 5 levels.

[spoiler-box]{
"assign": "966624880",
"jp_text": "守勢練陣 Lv.1",
"en_text": "Defensive Stance Lv.1",
"jp_explain": "ガードスタンス時の\r\n効果が1%上昇する。",
"en_explain": ""
},
{
"assign": "966624881",
"jp_text": "守勢練陣 Lv.2",
"en_text": "Defensive Stance Lv.2",
"jp_explain": "ガードスタンス時の\r\n効果が2%上昇する。",
"en_explain": ""
},
{
"assign": "966624886",
"jp_text": "守勢練陣 Lv.3",
"en_text": "Defensive Stance Lv.3",
"jp_explain": "ガードスタンス時の\r\n効果が3%上昇する。",
"en_explain": ""
},
{
"assign": "966624887",
"jp_text": "守勢練陣 Lv.4",
"en_text": "Defensive Stance Lv.4",
"jp_explain": "ガードスタンス時の\r\n効果が4%上昇する。",
"en_explain": ""
},
{
"assign": "966624884",
"jp_text": "守勢練陣 Lv.5",
"en_text": "Defensive Stance Lv.5",
"jp_explain": "ガードスタンス時の\r\n効果が5%上昇する。",
"en_explain": ""[/spoiler-box]

Macman
Jan 19, 2016, 04:56 PM
They were programmed to but they never really allowed it beyond lv3.
Cirno used to have info all the way up to Lv5 but removed it. Probably because they got inundated with "how to i lvl past 3 :wacko:" requests.

Sirius-91
Jan 19, 2016, 06:22 PM
They were programmed to but they never really allowed it beyond lv3.
Cirno used to have info all the way up to Lv5 but removed it. Probably because they got inundated with "how to i lvl past 3 :wacko:" requests.

Pretty much this.

It's why for translations, it's stop at lv3.

Achelousaurus
Jan 20, 2016, 02:46 AM
Navigating swiki is super easy. Aside from the obvious stuff like weapon type (icon) and rarity / stats (numbers) you just gotta follow the links.

Check which column has the potential and now you know where to go to see every potential.

If you want them all listed, again just follow the links.
They also got a list of weapons for each potential and again you can find it by just check a couple of links.