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EvilMag
Jan 18, 2016, 08:51 PM
Gameguard updated today and me and some teammates have been getting this a lot. Any reports of this?

Agastya
Jan 18, 2016, 08:53 PM
yeah

already rebooted, already clicked "fix gg errors" not running any of the twerker's injections for translations

i just want to chase stones

Flickerstance
Jan 18, 2016, 08:53 PM
i'm having the same issue. tried deleting the gg folder, disabled antivirus, use the troubleshooting of the tweaker, nada.

blkbox11
Jan 18, 2016, 08:57 PM
Getting this as well. My gameguard just updated itself when I tried to launch the game a few minutes ago.

Must be something to do with the plugins of the Tweaker.

Xaeris
Jan 18, 2016, 08:57 PM
Yup. Tried using the Tweaker tool, and disabling my startup applications. Still getting 1013 within a minute of logging in, if even.

Agastya
Jan 18, 2016, 08:58 PM
Getting this as well. My gameguard just updated itself when I tried to launch the game a few minutes ago.

Must be something to do with the plugins of the Tweaker.
i'm not using any plugins but i admittedly haven't tried using official launcher yet

after being booted four times i don't want to try risking it

ThePageofHeart
Jan 18, 2016, 08:59 PM
Having issues with this too.

blkbox11
Jan 18, 2016, 09:00 PM
Are you using the Proxy? Because that counts as a plugin too.

Lvl200Mag
Jan 18, 2016, 09:05 PM
Error np1013 checking in, a few of my teams members are also getting it.

Bilbo McBaggins
Jan 18, 2016, 09:08 PM
Just started getting it too. Think I'm going to just wait for a bit and see if anybody figures it out.

Agastya
Jan 18, 2016, 09:09 PM
Are you using the Proxy? Because that counts as a plugin too.


i'm not using any plugins

did i fucking stutter


e: ran vanilla launcher with intent to test, don't want to sit through a filecheck on it so that's going to remain inconclusive
somebody else can go do that instead

lsen
Jan 18, 2016, 09:09 PM
Seemed to be the only member in my team getting it so far that I know of.

blkbox11
Jan 18, 2016, 09:12 PM
did i fucking stutter

My bad then.

Agastya
Jan 18, 2016, 09:19 PM
aida why are all these plugins downloaded but in a folder named 'disabled' when i have opted to not use them indicating i do not want them on my system at all

aida do you understand how this works at all

i should have never updated this program once plugins rolled out

Synfull
Jan 18, 2016, 09:29 PM
yea it go me too been fine all day then leave to go do something came back to this bs 1013 ....

Arika
Jan 18, 2016, 09:30 PM
Back to play since 3 weeks ago, and never have any problem. Suddenly today I got this also.

I run Window 10, Proxifier (since I need this to be able to play from Asia), and I also use Tweaker.

more likely it is problem from new GG to Tweaker thought.

Para
Jan 18, 2016, 09:31 PM
I too am getting NP1013.
I use the tweaker.

Going to attempt to use the normal launcher.

Shadowkid229
Jan 18, 2016, 09:32 PM
I logged in 2 hours ago, did not disconnect nothing and then I started getting n 1013. Log in again, was in for 1 minute. NP1013. I log in, go to another block, start the EQ for demise. Gave me NP1013 at 85 % and then on 95% on the next log in. Yeah something fudged up. My friend got the error first and then me.

ThePageofHeart
Jan 18, 2016, 09:33 PM
Any confirmation that launching the game via the normal launcher still causes a 1013?

Synfull
Jan 18, 2016, 09:34 PM
waiting for some awesome person to figure out the fi for this

EvilMag
Jan 18, 2016, 09:35 PM
Launched the game with launcher. still NP1013. Can somebody try to launch without all the tweaker dll shit in the pso2_bin folder.

Akanei
Jan 18, 2016, 09:37 PM
Clean install has me getting NP1013'd, as well. Absolutely clueless.

SonataDesu
Jan 18, 2016, 09:38 PM
Well this is great, just before mining base Demise. Missed all those stone, thank you sega for partnering with GAMEGAYGUARD.

Variant
Jan 18, 2016, 09:41 PM
So, played around with it for a bit. I'm able to login with plugins and everything without NP1013ing, but I can't start the game via tweaker (well, I'll get NP1013'd).

I needed to use the batch script to run it:



cd "G:\Games\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin"
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2

Sanjifire
Jan 18, 2016, 09:41 PM
Is this only happening to Win10 users? Everyone I've talked to with this error is on 10. I've tried all the fixes I know of. My guess is to wait for an update that fixes this.

Para
Jan 18, 2016, 09:42 PM
Its definitely something gameguard does not like. Anyone can confirm if any japanese players are receiving the same error?
Edit: Win 7 here.

Infinity Series
Jan 18, 2016, 09:42 PM
I always using normal launcher and i dont use tweaker/proxy/eng patch.

Just restarted pso2, updating GG and went in without error.


Is this only happening to Win10 users? Everyone I've talked to with this error is on 10. I've tried all the fixes I know of. My guess is to wait for an update that fixes this.

Win10 here.

TeeHunter13
Jan 18, 2016, 09:43 PM
Have this as well, tried disabling antivirus, disabling non-Microsoft services, disabling start up programs.

Xaeris
Jan 18, 2016, 09:43 PM
I opened it with the launcher just now, completely vanilla client with no English patch. Seems to be working okay now. I'll manually put in the patch and see how that goes.

blkbox11
Jan 18, 2016, 09:47 PM
So, played around with it for a bit. I'm able to login with plugins and everything without NP1013ing, but I can't start the game via tweaker (well, I'll get NP1013'd).

I needed to use the batch script to run it:



cd "G:\Games\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin"
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2


Can I just retype this into command prompt and change the game location as it is on my PC to start the game then?

I need the proxy to get into the game.

Techrayder
Jan 18, 2016, 09:48 PM
Made an account just to report that I am also suddenly getting this with Windows 10. No changes done to the system since last successful play session, etc. I file checked, updated game, rolled back patches and redid them, fixed GG errors, deleted GG folder entirely, everything. Made sure nothing in the background is running also. This is definitely something out of my control. I almost suspect GG had an update just recently and it doesn't like something.

EDIT: Just realized that some people did indeed state that it updated. Whoops.

TeeHunter13
Jan 18, 2016, 09:54 PM
Can confirm that I still get NP1013 after running the game through pso2launcher and going through a file check.

Rogueblade
Jan 18, 2016, 10:01 PM
Same here everything was fine closed the game to look at something and reopened gameguard updated and np1013 nothing changed except reopening the game.

wefwq
Jan 18, 2016, 10:02 PM
Looks like gameguard today are hard at work keeping player from playing the game.

Xaeris
Jan 18, 2016, 10:03 PM
Don't get me wrong guys, Gameguard is unquestionably a piece of shit, but you can't get mad at it for interfering with a third party program's interaction with the game. That's literally its job.

Yamishi
Jan 18, 2016, 10:04 PM
Don't get me wrong guys, Gameguard is unquestionably a piece of shit, but you can't get mad at it for interfering with a third party program's interaction with the game. That's literally its job.

I believe others have posted that clean installs are also getting this error. :/

TeeHunter13
Jan 18, 2016, 10:10 PM
I got an error when logging in from an install that was already affected by the tweaker, now doing a clean, tweaker-free installation to see if it works.

Techrayder
Jan 18, 2016, 10:10 PM
With everyone claiming they witnessed GG update prior to this problem (I personally didn't pay attention to see this) it has to be something that was just changed in it. Hopefully its just some sort of simple bug that gets fixed on its own from the GG devs, and not some sort of conflict with something vital. Guess I'm going to sit this one out for a bit :-?

ashley50
Jan 18, 2016, 10:10 PM
After reading the responses about this error:

-I launched PSO2, with no plugins or tweaker (since I've never used them).
-GG updated, as everyone has mentioned.
-Did the daily COs.
-Finished and turned it in with no problem whatsoever.
-Logged out.

WIN10 user.

Nitro Vordex
Jan 18, 2016, 10:11 PM
but you can't get mad at it for interfering with a third party program's interaction with the game. That's literally its job.
You have no idea how wrong you are.

Also Windows 7 here. Was working ~2 hours ago, with all english patches installed. Did fixes through tweaker, file check, JP vanilla installation, rebooted computer. Still getting error.

KLMS1
Jan 18, 2016, 10:12 PM
Well going by the chat the code wizzards are already looking into it, so hope springs eternal.

Para
Jan 18, 2016, 10:14 PM
Just launched vanilla client and cleared out all the patches. Seems to be working.
The only thing I had installed prior to launching vanilla client were the tweaker, english patch, remnants of the story patch, and removed the censor.

Xaeris
Jan 18, 2016, 10:14 PM
That's pretty good support for something we get for free. Ordinary launcher works for me, but I can't seem to apply the English patch manually without the game overwriting it on startup, so I guess I'll just do something else tonight and wait this out.

electrolytes
Jan 18, 2016, 10:16 PM
After having problems for the past hour, vanilla client + removing extra tweaker files from the pso2_bin folder seems to have worked for me.

blkbox11
Jan 18, 2016, 10:23 PM
Does the no Tweaker method for the Proxy work to get around this if Tweaker related files are cleaned out?

Rogueblade
Jan 18, 2016, 10:30 PM
i opened the sega launcher and it checked the files and then launched the game no problems so far been logged in for 10 mins

un1t27
Jan 18, 2016, 10:31 PM
It just happened to me three minutes ago.

red1228
Jan 18, 2016, 10:35 PM
Im able to log in & out using Tweaker, English Patches (core & large files), item translator & ArksModTool all successfully. Using Windows 7.

FotoPhinish
Jan 18, 2016, 10:36 PM
My team members got this error and I decided to give it to myself. Got pso2 to work using the official launcher and deleting the GG folders to re-download them.
I use no proxy's

un1t27
Jan 18, 2016, 10:45 PM
And it just happened again on Windows 7.

EdgyWeeaboo
Jan 18, 2016, 10:48 PM
Getting this error also. Was just playing this morning

cheapgunner
Jan 18, 2016, 11:07 PM
Getting this error as well. WIn10, Tweaker and plugins. Meh, gonna clal it a night and turn in early. No need to get overly upset about this,

redx1xman
Jan 18, 2016, 11:12 PM
Getting the error myself as well. Hope this gets fixed at some point soon, at the very least after maintenance

Nitro Vordex
Jan 18, 2016, 11:15 PM
Are any of the JP players getting this?

Celeius
Jan 18, 2016, 11:15 PM
Does anyone know if this will be something that will be fixed gameguard side? Or are they intentionally trying to exclude twekaer?

Rogatien
Jan 18, 2016, 11:17 PM
Does anyone know if this will be something that will be fixed gameguard side? Or are they intentionally trying to exclude twekaer?

I believe this has been happening to even people not using tweaker.

TaigaUC
Jan 18, 2016, 11:17 PM
When does this NP error occur? I just booted using the batch file method and it works.
I saw stupid Gameguard updating before the client came up.
I have Arks Mod Tool running too.


waiting for some awesome person to figure out the fi for this

Assassinate Gameguard HQ.

TeeHunter13
Jan 18, 2016, 11:19 PM
Alright, so I was able to determine that tweaker is 100% the problem.
I get this error when using the tweaker.
I get this error when launching pso2 using pso2launcher from the installation that has tweaker files.
I DO NOT get this error when launching pso2 from a completely clean installation that was never affected by the tweaker.
My friend who is using the tweaker has this problem as well, while my girlfriend who never used it as she knows Japanese is not affected.
As such, I am quite sure that JP players don't have this problem, and it's only tweaker users.

electrolytes
Jan 18, 2016, 11:22 PM
The vanilla client failed soon after logging in for me until I removed the tweaker files/folders from pso2_bin (translation, pso2h, plugins, etc). Similarly, it also failed with tweaker, even if I manually removed all those files after starting the tweaker up.

Essentially a clean pso2_bin plus vanilla launcher is the only thing that's worked for me.

blkbox11
Jan 18, 2016, 11:22 PM
When does this NP error occur? I just booted using the batch file method and it works.
I saw stupid Gameguard updating before the client came up.
I have Arks Mod Tool running too.



Assassinate Gameguard HQ.

There's only half an hour til the maintenance, so I won't try it now. But for future reference, how do I go about using the batch file method?

I saw someone mentioning it earlier.

EDIT: Nvm about the maintenance, misheard it.

blanc1990
Jan 18, 2016, 11:28 PM
Tryed now over the Tweaker. Still no Log in. Always get kicked!
Restarted the Computer and still.
Currently the PSO2updater is running and i will try it over the PSO2 exe in the PSO2 folder in the system. (Without Tweaker)

I hope it will work... Have nothing to do besides PSO2 and have a bad Relationship broke...

(Sry for my bad English... i'm from germany and my english will be very bad... i think...)

TeeHunter13
Jan 18, 2016, 11:30 PM
Don't forget that it will still not work unless you remove Tweaker files from your PSO2 folder.

Celeius
Jan 18, 2016, 11:33 PM
What are all of the files Tweaker adds and where can I find them so I can delete them? I'd like to at least play the game even if it means not being able to understand anything until this is fixed if ever.

blanc1990
Jan 18, 2016, 11:33 PM
Tweaker is in a other folder. Havnt found any Tweaker stuff in the PSO2 folder in the System. Only on my desktop!

Xira 1.05
Jan 18, 2016, 11:34 PM
Happening to me too, unfortunately. The problem goes away completely if I run from pso2launcher.exe instead and allow it to update (which removes the English patches in the process). I am suspicious as well.

FacelessRed
Jan 18, 2016, 11:37 PM
Well, I guess pso isn't happening for me tonight.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 18, 2016, 11:38 PM
Well, I guess pso isn't happening for me tonight.

Its funny because I had no issue with PSO2 until shortly after TD4 ended...so unsure what triggered that.

Oh well....guess this is sign to play on ES.

TaigaUC
Jan 18, 2016, 11:39 PM
One of my friends just tried PSO2. Said it logged in and then came up with an error and booted him.
I know someone else who isn't having a problem. Seems as random as Gameguard always is.

Open up notepad or something, make a text file and save it as PSO2.bat
Paste this into it:

cd "C:\Phantasy Star Online 2\pso2_bin"
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2

Where "C:\Phantasy Star Online 2\pso2_bin" is your PSO2 exe location.
I'm not sure if that line is even necessary. Maybe only if you're running the bat file from some other place.

Then run the bat file and it should launch. Maybe.


Don't get me wrong guys, Gameguard is unquestionably a piece of shit, but you can't get mad at it for interfering with a third party program's interaction with the game. That's literally its job.

I feel I should be able to get upset at Gameguard blocking stuff that obviously has no bearing on PSO2 itself.
They intentionally block competing games as soon as those games are released in Japan.
No protection beforehand. That's just being a dick.


I believe others have posted that clean installs are also getting this error. :/

Windows is a third party app!

Synfull
Jan 18, 2016, 11:51 PM
When does this NP error occur? I just booted using the batch file method and it works.
I saw stupid Gameguard updating before the client came up.
I have Arks Mod Tool running too.



Assassinate Gameguard HQ.

I'm with that lol go get em

blanc1990
Jan 18, 2016, 11:56 PM
Deinstalled every patch now. disabeld now every plugin. Still np1013...
Need help really now! please!! T_T

Agastya
Jan 18, 2016, 11:59 PM
The vanilla client failed soon after logging in for me until I removed the tweaker files/folders from pso2_bin (translation, pso2h, plugins, etc). Similarly, it also failed with tweaker, even if I manually removed all those files after starting the tweaker up.

Essentially a clean pso2_bin plus vanilla launcher is the only thing that's worked for me.
seconding this as a working solution, ive been doing endgame room idling for about half an hour now and its been working happily

i didn't even know pso2h was related to twerker

TeeHunter13
Jan 18, 2016, 11:59 PM
You probably forgot some file. What I did is install PSO2 from scratch, clean install with no tweaker at all.

Rogueblade
Jan 19, 2016, 12:06 AM
The batch file works with english patches and all

TaigaUC
Jan 19, 2016, 12:06 AM
Friend who earlier got booted with an error tried my batch file.
Got in, no problems.

blanc1990
Jan 19, 2016, 12:07 AM
can't really start PSO2.exe launcher or Updater without getting an error. Idk what i should do now!

EdgyWeeaboo
Jan 19, 2016, 12:07 AM
I tried the batch, the game does not even start.

ArcaneTechs
Jan 19, 2016, 12:12 AM
Waiting for Block 01 cancer to spread this as a way to make people think that Sega is trying to get rid of foreigners via Tweaker/GameGuard

Jay6
Jan 19, 2016, 12:12 AM
Sometimes I'm glad I still install the English patches manually without dealing with the Tweaker. I still have no issues.

tam319
Jan 19, 2016, 12:13 AM
I tried the batch, the game does not even start.

Same here. Using Windows 8. Been having this problem since around 5 today.

Rogueblade
Jan 19, 2016, 12:13 AM
I tried the batch, the game does not even start.

i had the same issue run as admin

pkemr4
Jan 19, 2016, 12:24 AM
is there a full list of files to delete?

batfax
Jan 19, 2016, 12:25 AM
Tried the batch, still NP1013's. Patches and stuff completely uninstalled.

seilent
Jan 19, 2016, 12:27 AM
cd "C:\Phantasy Star Online 2\pso2_bin"
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2

just for add if you install pso at different drive add the drive at the command


cd "E:\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin"
E:
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2

change the location and the drive (in this case E: to yours)

SuperND
Jan 19, 2016, 12:27 AM
Ahhhhhhhh..... I don't wanna play un-translated......

EdgyWeeaboo
Jan 19, 2016, 12:32 AM
Do I just run the normal launcher for the game and it will work? Or do I have to do a fresh install? Which is confirmed to work?

Cryptex
Jan 19, 2016, 12:34 AM
Same problem for me. just installed after 2 years and played like 2h and now this error.. meeeh -.-

AlphaBlob
Jan 19, 2016, 12:34 AM
I got in just fine with the batch, the english patch from the tweaker still work.

Variant
Jan 19, 2016, 12:36 AM
So, experimentation and testing done, GG is detecting tweaker specifically, I'll let AIDA deal with that. As far as I'm aware, there is literally no other issue. Everyone who's had issues with the Vanilla launcher is NP1013ing because of tweaker specifically (the lingering process tweaker leaves behind to make sure it launched the game properly).

For the time being, you can use the batch file below to run it (change the directory, and create a file like pso2run.bat and run it as admin):



cd "G:\Games\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin"
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2


For those of you who need the proxy to connect or plugins, you can run the Tweaker to get the Proxy setup, and then drop this (https://www.dropbox.com/s/bim20htkcsx1gxe/ddraw.dll?dl=0) into your pso2_bin directory (note that Tweaker will auto-delete it to avoid conflicts, so be aware of that).

Then close Tweaker, and then use the batch file to run the game.

SillaSybin79
Jan 19, 2016, 12:38 AM
Hey guys. Sorry, I am new, just finished installing and launched this morning using tweaker. Killed it and went to work. After a long day, finally get home to this..... ugh.
Tweaker = 1013, fine with it for now after finding this thread.
But, trying to launch from official launcher tells me: (translated) "It was disconnected from the server" after putting in user and pass. Is that an IP block?
Thanks for any help.
Also, I did delete all tweaker stuff from bin folder (I believe).

Update: Nevermind. After posting, post above showed up. Followed directions, got past that. Just had 1013 error still, but while typing this...

Macman
Jan 19, 2016, 12:40 AM
Don't want to log in because I'm playing the es EQ right now but with the no-launcher no-tweaker launch I can get to the agreement screen without issue. Win7 x64 here. Basic english files installed and nothing else. Still have the tweaker's bullshit "disabled" folder in there.

wohdin
Jan 19, 2016, 12:40 AM
Just in time for the Blade & Soul launch, eh?

rip in pistorius

Cryptex
Jan 19, 2016, 12:43 AM
is the item translator working aswell as the normal english patch with the batch method?

AlphaBlob
Jan 19, 2016, 12:45 AM
is the item translator working aswell as the normal english patch with the batch method?
Nope.

Variant
Jan 19, 2016, 12:46 AM
I tried running as admin but it says pso2.exe can't be found. Running it normally can find it though but it won't start.

Change the file path to your pso2_bin directory.

YuushaBozu
Jan 19, 2016, 12:48 AM
i guess I'll just wait till Tweaker itself gets adjusted accordingly. Thanks to the devs and the code breakers in adavnce.

EdgyWeeaboo
Jan 19, 2016, 12:50 AM
Isn't it already? Like I said, it will find it if I don't run as admin but just won't start. But running as admin doesn't work.

seilent
Jan 19, 2016, 12:50 AM
at win 8+ i believe u have to change the "drive" into the directory's drive after "cd" otherwise the current working directory will be still in C:\windows\system32

this is how i do it


cd "E:\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin"
E:
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2

change the E: into your drive where pso2 installed, if it's D:\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin then change the E: into D:

blkbox11
Jan 19, 2016, 12:52 AM
So, experimentation and testing done, GG is detecting tweaker specifically, I'll let AIDA deal with that. As far as I'm aware, there is literally no other issue. Everyone who's had issues with the Vanilla launcher is NP1013ing because of tweaker specifically (the lingering process tweaker leaves behind to make sure it launched the game properly).

For the time being, you can use the batch file below to run it (change the directory, and create a file like pso2run.bat and run it as admin):



cd "G:\Games\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin"
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2


For those of you who need the proxy to connect or plugins, you can run the Tweaker to get the Proxy setup, and then drop this (https://www.dropbox.com/s/bim20htkcsx1gxe/ddraw.dll?dl=0) into your pso2_bin directory (note that Tweaker will auto-delete it to avoid conflicts, so be aware of that).

Then close Tweaker, and then use the batch file to run the game.

Just to clarify, if I already have Proxy set up via the tweaker, then can I just create and run the batch file? Or will I need to run Tweaker to set it up again and drop the ddraw.dll in still?

ThePageofHeart
Jan 19, 2016, 12:55 AM
Tried out using the .bat file, so far things are running good. Just dont got the item translations is all. Will leave game on all night to check progress. Hopefully GG will get their shit together soon.

EdgyWeeaboo
Jan 19, 2016, 12:56 AM
Tried out using the .bat file, so far things are running good. Just dont got the item translations is all. Will leave game on all night to check progress. Hopefully GG will get their shit together soon.

How'd you get the bat to work?

FacelessRed
Jan 19, 2016, 01:02 AM
Okay, the instructions on how to make the bat file or run the command are not entirely noob friendly.

Open up notepad

Next, locate your pso2 install, and find pso2.exe

My pso directory where pso2.exe is: D:\Phantasy_Star\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin <-- your directory will not be the same as mine.

The tricky part is that, you may not have PSO installed on your default drive (usually C:\) So if it isn't you will need to place another line BELOW the cd line. This line will be the letter drive you need to run the command from. In my case it is D:

So the altered code for the .bat file that you need to type into notepad (using MY DIRECTORY IS:


cd "D:\Phantasy_Star\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin"
D:
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2

To reiterate
First line is where my pso2.exe is located.
2nd line is the drive it's located on

then hit save, name it (name).bat , change the "save as file type" to "all files" save it anywhere. Then right click the file, Select Run as Administrator. And it will launch PSO2.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 19, 2016, 01:05 AM
When i tried through pso2 launcher (after it did file check) i was online for about 20 minutes w/o issues until i logged off. (oppose to the 1 minute followed by NP 1013 error before)

So w/e it is like many have said it appears to be something up with GG and be extension Tweaker. (more so GG)

I tried the batch file from earlier in the post while the UAC for pso2 did come up asking permission....it didn't actually load PSO2 for some reason.... I'd see pso2.exe under process in task manager but it would go away shortly after. Unsure what the deal with that is since Tweaker never had an issue loading pso2 like that.

Edit:Haha I see what I did wrong Batch load worked fine. Testing if have any issues.

Xira 1.05
Jan 19, 2016, 01:12 AM
total of what I did (based on Variant's instructions):

1. Open a file window to pso2 location on your hard drive. Find and run official PSO2Launcher.exe (in pso2_bin) and allow it to update files. Close when done.

2. Run PSO2 Tweaker. Reinstall translations in order (main, large, story). Set Plugins (Item Translation, Title Translation, Proxy) & PSO2 Settings as desired.

3. Either obtain DDRAW.DLL from Variant's Dropbox earlier in this thread, or -- run PSO2 from the Tweaker, then ALT-TAB out to your file window. You will notice a DDRAW.DLL in the PSO2_BIN directory. Make a copy of it. Either way, shut down PSO2 and PSO2 Tweaker.

4. Stick DDRAW.DLL back into PSO2_BIN (it may now be missing). Delete everything there except:

/data/
/GameGuard/
/Plugins/*
cudart32_30_9.dll
edition.txt
GameGuard.des
gameversion.ver
pso2.exe
pso2download.exe
PSO2JP.ini
pso2launcher.exe
pso2predownload.exe
pso2updater.exe
ddraw.dll*
pso2h.dll**
translation.bin**
translation_titles.bin**
translation.cfg*** Needed for proxy, item and title translation; ** Needed for item and/or title translation

5. Create a .BAT file with Notepad (see FacelessRed's instructions a few posts up for a great tutorial). This is how mine is configured. Replace H with your own drive letter. Replace "H:\Games\etc." (quotes should be around it) with the path to your own pso2_bin directory.

H:
cd "H:\Games\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin"
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2When saving the file, choose file type "all files" and type the extension out, i.e. startpso2.bat

6. Run the Batch file by right clicking it and select Run as Administrator.

If you still get the error, try deleting PSO2 Tweaker (the exe itself) or putting it into a ZIP. I had to do this to get rid of the error on my system. If you later need to tweak graphics settings just redownload Tweaker to a directory, run it to change the settings, then destroy Tweaker and clean PSO2_BIN again.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 19, 2016, 01:26 AM
I've been on with the English Patch on for the past 8 minutes using the Batch method and haven't crashed yet. (Oppose to before where I'd crash after being on for little over a minute)

So far so good :P

Variant
Jan 19, 2016, 01:31 AM
Everything that I'm aware of from testing this out leads me to believe that GG is literally just process scanning for tweaker. I'm not aware of it doing file scans for it or any of the patches, or even the plugins for that matter.

GG is weird though, maybe it's doing different things on different machines.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 19, 2016, 01:34 AM
Everything that I'm aware of from testing this out leads me to believe that GG is literally just process scanning for tweaker. I'm not aware of it doing file scans for it or any of the patches, or even the plugins for that matter.

GG is weird though, maybe it's doing different things on different machines.
I know earlier when ran the game through vanilla launcher (after it did the self file check) the game loaded no problem and didn't kick me out.

It wasn't until i went into tweaker and applied english patch (didn't do large) that it would let me log in as normal but would crash on me about 1 minute later.

So w/e it is....GG not liking Tweaker.

Unsure if manually putting english patch has the same end result or not.

Xira 1.05
Jan 19, 2016, 01:34 AM
Everything that I'm aware of from testing this out leads me to believe that GG is literally just process scanning for tweaker. I'm not aware of it doing file scans for it or any of the patches, or even the plugins for that matter.

GG is weird though, maybe it's doing different things on different machines.

It seems to also be file scanning for it as well as I was getting the crash until I deleted the directory containing it.

blanc1990
Jan 19, 2016, 01:41 AM
Can't delete any data from pso2 or uninstalling the game. Need really help.

Windowns 8.1

Variant
Jan 19, 2016, 01:42 AM
It seems to also be file scanning for it as well as I was getting the crash until I deleted the directory containing it.

The people I've helped on IRC, AIDA, and myself all have been able to use the batch file without needing to delete tweaker, so if you're right, then it's inconsistent between systems.

Xira 1.05
Jan 19, 2016, 01:44 AM
The people I've helped on IRC, AIDA, and myself all have been able to use the batch file without needing to delete tweaker, so if you're right, then it's inconsistent between systems.

Yeah, I was just talking to someone in Block 1 about it and he too didn't have to delete his Tweaker files entirely to get it to work. But I swear, I launched it once with the batch file and it didn't work; then I closed PSO2, deleted my PSO2Tweaker directory, relaunched via batch file -- and voila, like magic, problem solved. Maybe my situation is unique. Maybe some kind of remnant memory stored around. I have no idea.

Macman
Jan 19, 2016, 01:45 AM
GG (and sega's programs) are notorious for being intermittent, inconsistent, and outright baffling across different systems.

redx1xman
Jan 19, 2016, 01:47 AM
The people I've helped on IRC, AIDA, and myself all have been able to use the batch file without needing to delete tweaker, so if you're right, then it's inconsistent between systems.

i'm a little confused about what you guys mean on using the batch file. I just installed PSO2 again from the psolauncher file in the tweaker folder and it worked (minus any translations) is the batch file used to be able to still have translations?

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 19, 2016, 01:50 AM
i'm a little confused about what you guys mean on using the batch file. I just installed PSO2 again from the psolauncher file in the tweaker folder and it worked (minus any translations) is the batch file used to be able to still have translations?


I've been on for ~30 minutes w/ english patch on using batch method and hasn't crashed once :P

Where as if I tried to play game with english patch on before the game would crash within a minute of being logged on.

Variant
Jan 19, 2016, 01:50 AM
GG is detecting tweaker, the batch file is just an alternative launcher. Getting it running with the batch means you don't need to reinstall and repatch, and if you want plugins, I mentioned how to do this in this post: http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231799

Xira 1.05
Jan 19, 2016, 01:56 AM
i'm a little confused about what you guys mean on using the batch file. I just installed PSO2 again from the psolauncher file in the tweaker folder and it worked (minus any translations) is the batch file used to be able to still have translations?

Short version: Yes, but no item translations.

What you do is install translations via Tweaker, then get rid of Tweaker and write a batch file (with Notepad) with the aforementioned configurations to launch pso2.exe without any Launchers (neither the sega one or the AIDA one). See previous posts for details.

Variant
Jan 19, 2016, 01:57 AM
Item translations work, same with the proxy and other plugins, you need to drop ddraw.dll into your folder (links in the post).

FacelessRed
Jan 19, 2016, 01:57 AM
I'd like to point out, I've not deleted anything relating to tweaker and the .bat file approach worked.

Xira 1.05
Jan 19, 2016, 01:58 AM
Item translations work, same with the proxy and other plugins, you need to drop ddraw.dll into your folder (links in the post).

Oh? Huh. I need to go test this now.

EDIT: It indeed does work, updated my previous post accordingly. Variant, you're a badass.

redx1xman
Jan 19, 2016, 02:45 AM
Oh? Huh. I need to go test this now.

EDIT: It indeed does work, updated my previous post accordingly. Variant, you're a badass.

hey I appreciate the help so far. What .dll file is he referring to I searched the posts and couldn't find the link.

Xira 1.05
Jan 19, 2016, 02:59 AM
hey I appreciate the help so far. What .dll file is he referring to I searched the posts and couldn't find the link.

@redx1xman: I can't post links yet until I hit 10 posts but Variant posted the ddraw dll for getting plugins working on page 9 (if you are using default forum settings). It's listed as a link under the word "This" and links to a dropbox. Alternatively you can look at my big compilation post I made on page 11 which shows how to obtain ddraw.dll without the dropbox.

*THANK YOU @Variant* I now have full PSO2 functionality restored! :beer:

for now ^^;

Lurielle
Jan 19, 2016, 03:05 AM
Thank you for the fix, Variant! Managed to run it without deleting anything!

Was wondering what went wrong after selecting the ship... SEGA why??

redx1xman
Jan 19, 2016, 03:16 AM
@redx1xman: I can't post links yet until I hit 10 posts but Variant posted the ddraw dll for getting plugins working on page 9 (if you are using default forum settings). It's listed as a link under the word "This" and links to a dropbox. Alternatively you can look at my big compilation post I made on page 11 which shows how to obtain ddraw.dll without the dropbox.

*THANK YOU @Variant* I now have full PSO2 functionality restored! :beer:

for now ^^;

Thank you for all the help working flawlessly again, and thanks VARIANT FOR THE FIX!!! #YoureGodlike

saraishadow
Jan 19, 2016, 03:41 AM
Could someone list the tweaker files I NEED to delete rather than the ones I don't the list above is confusing.

Decinoge
Jan 19, 2016, 04:26 AM
I've actually registered just to post this.

Thanks for the help guys, game working now with translations and without a problem.
As for the "deleting the Tweaker completely" I have to say that is dubious.

Happened the same to me as to Xira 1.05, I started the game with the batch file and right after a 1013. I deleted the Tweaker completely, started the game, and still a 1013.
Since I am the stubborn kind of guy, I kept trying using the batch file and at the 4th try it actually worked.
If it was due to deleting the Tweaker files or not, but I'm posting with the hope that it will somehow help the Tweaker developers to hunt the problem down.

As for the users still having this problem, I advise to delete the Tweaker for now (just as a precaution) and to follow Xira 1.05 instructions to the letter (post #103 @ page 11).

Shinamori
Jan 19, 2016, 04:34 AM
Could someone list the tweaker files I NEED to delete rather than the ones I don't the list above is confusing.

PSO2 Tweaker.exe
translator.dll
translation.bin
translation.cfg
translation_titles.bin

Plugins folder

That's all the ones I had.

blkbox11
Jan 19, 2016, 04:38 AM
I've actually registered just to post this.

Thanks for the help guys, game working now with translations and without a problem.
As for the "deleting the Tweaker completely" I have to say that is dubious.

Happened the same to me as to Xira 1.05, I started the game with the batch file and right after a 1013. I deleted the Tweaker completely, started the game, and still a 1013.
Since I am the stubborn kind of guy, I kept trying using the batch file and at the 4th try it actually worked.
If it was due to deleting the Tweaker files or not, but I'm posting with the hope that it will somehow help the Tweaker developers to hunt the problem down.

As for the users still having this problem, I advise to delete the Tweaker for now (just as a precaution) and to follow Xira 1.05 instructions to the letter (post #103 @ page 11).

Just got out of a similar experience, but I only had to delete PSO2Tweaker.exe to get the batch file working. All the other Tweaker related files are untouched.

GG is pretty unpredictable here.

EDIT: To repost what I said in the other thread - I had both Tweaker and PSO2 on my C: Drive. Also had no other copies of PSO2Tweaker on my system besides the one I removed.

TeeHunter13
Jan 19, 2016, 05:11 AM
All this is inconvenient. Hopefully AIDA manages to fix it soon and this isn't SEGA trying to purge us Tweaker users.

blkbox11
Jan 19, 2016, 05:22 AM
One doesn't need to be a programmer to tell that they added the Tweaker to some kind of blacklist now. Whether that's because SEGA requested it or not is up in the air because who knows how GG gets their information on third party programs.

It really is inconvenient though, because while many others don't really need the Tweaker other than for translation purposes, some people like me require the Proxy to play due to actually being IP banned from JP. I don't think it's possible for me to update the game via the vanilla launcher, or I would have been doing so all this time.

Now that this has happened, I'm going to try to depend on Tweaker as little as possible.

wefwq
Jan 19, 2016, 05:42 AM
One doesn't need to be a programmer to tell that they added the Tweaker to some kind of blacklist now. Whether that's because SEGA requested it or not is up in the air because who knows how GG gets their information on third party programs.
Bunch of JP already well aware of Tweaker presence, it's been awhile now.
Some of them probably already sending off report to SEGA about it though most likely been ignored.
Recent plugin feature probably the one that raised the bar.

blkbox11
Jan 19, 2016, 05:47 AM
Recent plugin feature probably the one that raised the bar.

I forgot about this. I actually didn't return to the game until several weeks ago, but I've heard some of the fuss about it.

Akero
Jan 19, 2016, 05:48 AM
My first post!
Just followed cyberkitsune's page on setting up the proxy without tweaker and managed to stay inside the game without a NP1013.

RV29
Jan 19, 2016, 05:54 AM
Welp finally got time to play but this happens.
smh fam.

Petunia
Jan 19, 2016, 05:56 AM
Going vanilla, will let you know if the game runs okay or not.

jooozek
Jan 19, 2016, 05:57 AM
fun times ahead :wacko:

saraishadow
Jan 19, 2016, 06:01 AM
well damn, I dont think anything short of a full reinstall will work at this point, hate having to do that =_=

Macman
Jan 19, 2016, 06:04 AM
well damn, I dont think anything short of a full reinstall will work at this point, hate having to do that =_=
I don't understand how so many people have to resort to this. My client dates back to closed beta and it's still going strong.

Petunia
Jan 19, 2016, 06:07 AM
Going vanilla, will let you know if the game runs okay or not.

These are the files I deleted from my PSO2 folder.
http://puu.sh/mBoFu/d557950036.png

And then I launched it using the PSO2Launcher.exe, which replaced my Eng patches for me.
Game has been running fine for about 5 minutes now, whereas before the NP1013 Error would occur within a minute before.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://puu.sh/mBoHT/02991a8bdc.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

saraishadow
Jan 19, 2016, 06:36 AM
I've deleted all of those, run it with the bat file and with the vanilla launcher. About 2 minutes after logging in I get np1013

Getting real tired of this shit

seilent
Jan 19, 2016, 07:03 AM
made a simple script to clean pso2_bin and creating launcher (launch.bat)
http://seilent.xyz/download/pso2fixer.bat

don't forget to reboot to completely clean gg and tweaker's process

AuroraFantasy
Jan 19, 2016, 07:15 AM
omg I don't get this I'm kinda a comp noob all the .bat stuff and I tried it and its says there is no pso2.exe and I searched it up in all programs and it actually wasn't there so how have I played pso2 for the past like 5 months

Shady3011
Jan 19, 2016, 07:56 AM
Are people who are still having problems after making sure they have a clean directory tried deleting the GameGuard folder? I kept having the error until I did that and it solved my problem.

SilkaN
Jan 19, 2016, 08:06 AM
I was able to launch the game without any problems.

Win 8.1, Tweaker, Eng / Large Files / Story Patch, Item Translations and Title Translations.

Gameguard updated and PSO2 launched.

Edit, haha
So it happens after launch. Lol.
Got the error.

Arika
Jan 19, 2016, 08:10 AM
This thread is getting long. If anybody find a fix, would it be possible for the first post to give an update to the status?

wefwq
Jan 19, 2016, 08:11 AM
This thread is getting long. If anybody find a fix, would it be possible for the first post to give an update to the status?
There's literally a fix being posted all over the place.

DayoDee
Jan 19, 2016, 08:17 AM
I am having the same problem and now it won't let me close out pso2

Ziel
Jan 19, 2016, 08:18 AM
Ok the bat works no issues, but the ddraw.dll fix...
Am i the only one opening up for editing and getting moonrunes as if the file is corrupted or something?

AuroraFantasy
Jan 19, 2016, 08:58 AM
is anyone kind enough to explain exactly how to fix with all the bat stuff I don't quite get it

SilkaN
Jan 19, 2016, 09:00 AM
is anyone kind enough to explain exactly how to fix with all the bat stuff I don't quite get it


http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231799

There is a another explanation in the edited post.

You just need to open up notepad, know where your PSO2.exe is located, then enter

cd "D:\Phantasy_Star\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin" (this will be YOUR own directory, watch out)
D: (same here)
SET -pso2=+0x01e3f1e9
start pso2.exe +0x33aca2b9 -pso2

save the file as a .bat file and then run as administrator.

SoulSighTy
Jan 19, 2016, 09:35 AM
^Plus from this.
If that notepad file don't show file type(.txt). You need to set to show file type tn Folder Option(use search function) > go to view tap > un tick at 'Hide extensions for known file types'.
And then change .txt to .bat

Batty
Jan 19, 2016, 09:55 AM
i tried using the batch method, all fine until im asked to write my username and password, i get isntantly a "server conection time out" message :(

KakuRoze
Jan 19, 2016, 10:28 AM
Still getting NP1013 w/ using the bat approach.


Edit:
Uninstalled everything and disabled all patches + killed tweaker from task manager after hitting launch, sill same error.

Azure Falcon
Jan 19, 2016, 11:04 AM
Uninstalled the English patch, closed the tweaker, made sure all processes were gone, booted up the official launcher and went through the file check, everything seemed fine as I sat on the title screen for a while. As soon as I logged in and the usual menu popped up though, NP1013.

Regius
Jan 19, 2016, 11:06 AM
Well, looks like the error happens mainly because of Tweaker, I tried using the batch method, and it launched just fine, however, I can't get through the login screen because I need the proxy for that, so the question now is.

Is there a way to launch the proxy plugin amongst the client in the batch method?

wefwq
Jan 19, 2016, 11:07 AM
Uninstalled the English patch, closed the tweaker, made sure all processes were gone, booted up the official launcher and went through the file check, everything seemed fine as I sat on the title screen for a while. As soon as I logged in and the usual menu popped up though, NP1013.
Tried to cleanup all the .dll files from tweaker yet?
There's a guy said cleaning those might help, also quarantine your PSO2 Tweaker.exe and it's directory just to be sure.

Azure Falcon
Jan 19, 2016, 11:09 AM
Tried to cleanup all the .dll files from tweaker yet?
There's a guy said cleaning those might help.

Just working on that along with a file check from the official launcher now so that I'm back to vanilla. I'll edit once I see how that goes.

Ok, that fixed it. Currently in the lobby with no trouble at all. What I did was delete all files relating to the tweaker and Game Guard from the pso2_bin folder (including backups), booted the official launcher, ran a file check and started the game up. This is what my pso2_bin folder looks like now:

http://i.imgur.com/WNnEyNw.png

Looks like GG is picking up something that the tweaker adds to the pso2_bin folder, I still have the tweaker itself on the PC with no trouble.

Korima
Jan 19, 2016, 11:18 AM
And this can have a normal fix? I mean if GameGuard says "NO" to the tweaker there isn't anything you can do right?

Regius
Jan 19, 2016, 11:21 AM
And this can have a normal fix? I mean if GameGuard says "NO" to the tweaker there isn't anything you can do right?

Probably try to make a tweaker update that would bypass the error, if that's even possible. Or just make tweaker itself start running PSO2 through the .bat file.

wefwq
Jan 19, 2016, 11:22 AM
And this can have a normal fix? I mean if GameGuard says "NO" to the tweaker there isn't anything you can do right?
Probably there'll be one in near future, but not now.

Regius
Jan 19, 2016, 11:28 AM
It's kind of ironic how GG always mess things up not only for me but everyone else. Seriously, Sega should've got a better antihack system because that one is just a big no. But oh well, conplaining won't really change anything so I guess I better sit and wait till a solution pops up or GG update itself fix it.

Korima
Jan 19, 2016, 11:34 AM
It's kind of ironic how GG always mess things up not only for me but everyone else. Seriously, Sega should've got a better antihack system because that one is just a big no. But oh well, conplaining won't really change anything so I guess I better sit and wait till a solution pops up or GG update itself fix it.

But Gameguard needs an update to fix something for an unofficial third party software? I mean we can expect a fix from AIDA and the team but Gameguard?

Also the error is random or time based? Sometimes it pops up when I select the character and others I can play the game for a few minutes.

KakuRoze
Jan 19, 2016, 11:34 AM
Moving out the PSO2 Tweaker from the pso2_bin folder and clearing all tweaker data, including running the official patcher to re-download seem to have fixed the issue for now. I can at least play the game, despite not being able to read much.

TeeHunter13
Jan 19, 2016, 11:36 AM
I doubt a GG update would fix a Tweaker problem for us Gaijins, and I also feel like most anti-cheat programs are very dubious.

Regius
Jan 19, 2016, 11:45 AM
But Gameguard needs an update to fix something for an unofficial third party software? I mean we can expect a fix from AIDA and the team but Gameguard?

Also the error is random or time based? Sometimes it pops up when I select the character and others I can play the game for a few minutes.

They don't necessary need to make an update for a third party program, but as a consequence of updating again, it might fix the problem, since this 1013 error have happened before.

Probably soon enough there will be either a tweaker update to fix it or a new method to run the game withough having all that madness going on.


Edit: Well, in a sense we're still Sega's clients regardless the nationality, and I can bet that they do earn quite the money with us, concidering how much AC eng players are around that is, and I don't really think Sega is up to throw away more than a thousand of people that pay to have some neat stuff, after all if 900 of those are AC players, even if they pay only 5 dollars or rather 20 per month for the vip, there would be quite the money running there (20 * 900 = 18000).

I don't think Sega as an industry would afford that much of a strike in their funds.

jooozek
Jan 19, 2016, 11:53 AM
lol, isn't it obvious that if tweaker causes the game to throw NP1013 around because SEGA doesn't want the tweaker around? :wacko: expect it getting blacklisted more after it gets fixed by AIDA & co :wacko: i think they picked up the players using the dps parser since it was the only thing openly talked about on 2ch and the likes from what i remember :wacko:

Batty
Jan 19, 2016, 11:58 AM
made a simple script to clean pso2_bin and creating launcher (launch.bat)
http://seilent.xyz/download/pso2fixer.bat

don't forget to reboot to completely clean gg and tweaker's process

is there a way to undo what happened when i runed this launch.bat? even since i did i now get the "server connection timeout" error no mater how i log in, tweaker or bat, fixed/find missing files, im always getting the server connection timeout ever since i tried this

Regius
Jan 19, 2016, 12:01 PM
is there a way to undo what happened when i runed this launch.bat? even since i did i now get the "server connection timeout" error no mater how i log in, tweaker or bat, fixed/find missing files, im always getting the server connection timeout ever since i tried this

You proly needed the proxy to run the game, so we're in the same boat.

KLMS1
Jan 19, 2016, 12:03 PM
lol, isn't it obvious that if tweaker causes the game to throw NP1013 around because SEGA doesn't want the tweaker around? :wacko:

And their motive would be what exactly? They're effectively getting a slice of the Western market pie without having to lift a finger.

Batty
Jan 19, 2016, 12:05 PM
You proly needed the proxy to run the game, so we're in the same boat.

but i used to be able to enter normally with the tweaker before, only that i would get the NP1013 error after a minute inside the game, i would only get the server connection time out if trying to enter trough the .bat

but after tring out the solution i quoted above now im getting the server connection timeout all the time, no matter if i use the tweaker or the .bat to launch the game :/

Regius
Jan 19, 2016, 12:05 PM
KLMS1 catches my drift, Sega doesn't necessarily (if that's a word) needs to take a rid of the foreigners in their games if we actualy help a lot with the industry's funds.

Edit: Batty, tweaker runs the proxy by deffault, that's why you used to be able to connect normaly. The problem with your situation is the same as mine, I'm on a blocked region, thus I needed the proxy to connect or I'd get a timeup error.

You could try using a VPN to pass through the timeup error, but I don't recomend it considering that you'd be risking your account by doing so (High autoban rate on doing that).

TeeHunter13
Jan 19, 2016, 12:11 PM
Me and several of my friends have been using a VPN to play PSO2 for several years and none of us has been banned, so.. I'm not sure where the high autoban rate comes from.

AuroraFantasy
Jan 19, 2016, 12:17 PM
i cant find pso2.exe when I do the bat thingy and then I did a search and it rly isn't there so what have I been playing the past 5 months someone help!

SilkaN
Jan 19, 2016, 12:18 PM
i cant find pso2.exe when I do the bat thingy and then I did a search and it rly isn't there so what have I been playing the past 5 months someone help!

You should know on which harddrive you installed the game.
That's where your PSO2.exe is located.

redx1xman
Jan 19, 2016, 12:22 PM
I used the batch file last night (or early this morning cst) to bypass the GG block and it worked flawlessly. I wake up this morning and it's not working getting the NP1013 while launching from the bat file. Did something change overnight?

Korima
Jan 19, 2016, 12:23 PM
I didn't read all the posts but AIDA or someone from the team say something about the issue? I mean not working on it right now but if they are aware of the issue and they will try to find a fix in the upcoming days.

TaigaUC
Jan 19, 2016, 12:28 PM
Now my friend is getting NP1013 or whatever again.
Because for some reason they decided to use the tweaker after I warned them not to and gave them the batch file.

So I've no idea whether it was actually fixed before or what.

jooozek
Jan 19, 2016, 12:29 PM
And their motive would be what exactly? They're effectively getting a slice of the Western market pie without having to lift a finger.

well, you skipped the important part :wacko:

AuroraFantasy
Jan 19, 2016, 12:31 PM
I only have laucher.exe and download.exe

AuroraFantasy
Jan 19, 2016, 12:31 PM
cant find pso2.exe anywhere

Regius
Jan 19, 2016, 12:37 PM
Me and several of my friends have been using a VPN to play PSO2 for several years and none of us has been banned, so.. I'm not sure where the high autoban rate comes from.

Got some bad experiences over here with some other MMOs, and well other friends of mine also didn't have good experiences with VPNs, might be the reason for why I always keep a foot into the safe zone just to be sure.

I'm just saying if you're going to use one, then learn how to and do it at your own risk. lol

SilkaN
Jan 19, 2016, 12:40 PM
cant find pso2.exe anywhere


How do you launch PSO2, then?
Tweaker only bypasses Sega's launcher and still uses the PSO2.exe file.

AuroraFantasy
Jan 19, 2016, 12:51 PM
thats what I find dodgy

untrustful
Jan 19, 2016, 12:58 PM
PSO2 has transcended the plain of .exe and moved to the realm of Services and/or Processes!

nguuuquaaa
Jan 19, 2016, 12:59 PM
Hmm, adding /d to the cd command seems to fix whatever preventing access to pso2.exe

cd /d D:\Games\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin\
This is what I use.

Variant
Jan 19, 2016, 01:13 PM
Hmm, adding /d to the cd command seems to fix whatever preventing access to pso2.exe

cd /d D:\Games\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin\
This is what I use.

Oh, good call. I've updated my topic.

Azure Falcon
Jan 19, 2016, 01:21 PM
As much as I appreciate getting personal attention from GameGuard (makes me feel all warm and fuzzy), some people just don't understand that no means no. But that's okay, cause we have a confirmed method that makes the Tweaker work like before. Just gotta code it in and implement it, but it *should* be back to normal in a few hours. Sorry about the trouble, and thank you for your patience.

Just a query, but do you think this was GameGuard specifically targeting the tweaker or did it just get caught in the crossfire?

Shadowcat9
Jan 19, 2016, 01:32 PM
Just to clarify, if I already have Proxy set up via the tweaker, then can I just create and run the batch file? Or will I need to run Tweaker to set it up again and drop the ddraw.dll in still?

ok I followed the instructions but I'm still having issues first I was getting blank screen from tweeker so I noticed I ran it wrong so I used the batch and it keep saying "Windows can not find "pso2.exe" so what am I doing wrong?

untrustful
Jan 19, 2016, 01:34 PM
Just a query, but do you think this was GameGuard specifically targeting the tweaker or did it just get caught in the crossfire?

I bet Crossfire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCwn1NTK-50)

TeeHunter13
Jan 19, 2016, 01:37 PM
As much as I appreciate getting personal attention from GameGuard (makes me feel all warm and fuzzy), some people just don't understand that no means no. But that's okay, cause we have a confirmed method that makes the Tweaker work like before. Just gotta code it in and implement it, but it *should* be back to normal in a few hours. Sorry about the trouble, and thank you for your patience.

Glad you're working on it AIDA! Hopefully this won't happen too often..

Batty
Jan 19, 2016, 01:49 PM
i know AIDA is allready working on the tweaker, however i wanted to know if anyone that needs the proxy to play has been able to do it trough the .bat file?

KLMS1
Jan 19, 2016, 02:00 PM
i know AIDA is allready working on the tweaker, however i wanted to know if anyone that needs the proxy to play has been able to do it trough the .bat file?

Yes. When 630-chan-sempai isn't noticing me in the middle of an EQ anyway.
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

bhaal
Jan 19, 2016, 02:52 PM
Just a query, but do you think this was GameGuard specifically targeting the tweaker or did it just get caught in the crossfire?
GG is a RA using Cluster Bullet, and tweaker is taking all the splash damage

Shadowcat9
Jan 19, 2016, 03:15 PM
YOU CAN DO IT AIDA!!! *start cheering in a cheerleaders outfit* WOOOOOO!!!!!!

Shadowcat9
Jan 19, 2016, 03:17 PM
As much as I appreciate getting personal attention from GameGuard (makes me feel all warm and fuzzy), some people just don't understand that no means no. But that's okay, cause we have a confirmed method that makes the Tweaker work like before. Just gotta code it in and implement it, but it *should* be back to normal in a few hours. Sorry about the trouble, and thank you for your patience.

I believe you can do it and I will wait I wont do no more modifications to the files...THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HELP WE ARE GREATFUL OF YOUR HARD WORK!!!

Poyonche
Jan 19, 2016, 03:18 PM
GG is a Summoner that sent a Torimu to attack Tweaker.

Shadowcat9
Jan 19, 2016, 03:21 PM
GG is a Summoner that sent a Torimu to attack Tweaker.

right now we are doomed due to NP1013 T_T

LegoRappy
Jan 19, 2016, 03:47 PM
Thanks Aida for your work, amazing stuff.

Enderhero
Jan 19, 2016, 03:56 PM
Could the gameguard errors have actually nothing to do with the pso2 community and instead be because Gameguard updated for the release of Blade and Soul? The release of the game coincided with us being unable to play. Due to the competative nature of Blade and Soul they could have increased the monitoring of programs that manipulate the game IE the pso2 tweaker.

blkbox11
Jan 19, 2016, 03:58 PM
I wasn't aware that there's a PS4 version of Gameguard.

SilkaN
Jan 19, 2016, 04:06 PM
The fix works, I'm just having a bunch of people test it first. It looks like GG is targeting the Tweaker specifically.

My theory is that Sony (who loves their security) demanded that SEGA beef up theirs as part of the deal to get PSO2 on PS4. We've actually gotten native code to run on the VITA via PSO2VITA, because PSO2 uses a programming engine that is pretty exploitable, and it's not a long shot to say it may have been possible on the PS4 and led to the system being broken (although it was hacked a few days ago IIRC).

Another theory is that someone from nProtect received a bunch of reports from people (Japanese or otherwise) claiming that the PSO2 Tweaker was some foreign hacking program, so they blacklisted it without consulting SEGA (who doesn't really seem to care, since I'm still not banned and they've really done nothing about it.)

Will we ever really know for sure? Aside from nProtect removing the black next update, probably not.


Still got the error even though the tweaker updated.

Doss
Jan 19, 2016, 04:07 PM
All I got to say is keep up the good work AIDA :). now i'm going to take nap from trying everting to get to work. brain explodes..........*

blkbox11
Jan 19, 2016, 04:08 PM
My comment was referring to the fact that hackers on the PC will show up on PS4 since their servers are connected, and Sony most likely threw a fit about that.

Ah, alright. That makes sense.

The tweaker targeting thing is pretty worrying though. Are those logs sent to NCSoft and to SEGA every time a GG error appears?

SilkaN
Jan 19, 2016, 04:14 PM
The fix isn't live yet, it's still being worked on.


Oh, I was just seeing a tweaker update and read something like
"This fixes the NP1013 Gameguard error".

I guess I was too hasty.
Or I just read what I wanted to see. :P

Techrayder
Jan 19, 2016, 04:18 PM
I'm interested in knowing the nitty gritty of how it detected it. Did it literally just scan the processes for it in a way that for example, simply changing the name of the process could dodge it? It wouldn't even surprise me if they used such a simplistic and shoddy way to find it. :-P

Poyonche
Jan 19, 2016, 04:31 PM
Name it Twaker instead of Tweker. :wacko:

untrustful
Jan 19, 2016, 04:31 PM
Sony went up to GameGuard and said:
"We know you suck, so we took the liberty to scan your network for americans and other miscellaneous non-japanese peoples. Here is a list of processes to target.

GameGuard startled back:
"Thank you but we are firm in our abilities."

Sony retaliated:
"Prove it."

and that's how the gamestation was born.

blkbox11
Jan 19, 2016, 04:34 PM
I've never seen any evidence of it. If they were, a lot of us would be banned, and I imagine the amount of logs they would receive would be... quite ridiculous. (Remember when GG blocked Google Chrome and using Windows Media Player would crash PSO2 because GG thought it was a hack? Good times.)

I see. So in both those cases, the programs were blacklisted like Tweaker is now?

My own GG crashes whenever I try to launch anything like Firefox or AIM while PSO2 is running. So I'm no stranger to the error. It's just the first time a situation has happened where I'm running a targeted program as opposed to what I believed as just a conflict with other harmless programs.

TeeHunter13
Jan 19, 2016, 04:49 PM
The first was a "caught in crossfire", I believe, because of the way chrome sandbox'd each tab into it's own process. The second... I don't even know. We couldn't read GG logs back then.

Do you think there's a chance that this might repeat? And if it does, would you be able to fix the problem repeatedly?

Alam
Jan 19, 2016, 04:49 PM
A bunch of people were asking for a screenshot from the VITA stuff I referenced earlier. Took me a while to find (it was a loooooooong time ago), but here:

http://aida.moe/puush/tRrf.png



Yeah, it's just there so when I push the update, the notes are ready. You must have run a lower version than 3.0.6.6 :P Sorry!

Why did you share my Vita screenshot?

Zorak000
Jan 19, 2016, 04:53 PM
The fix isn't live yet, it's still being worked on.
please dont update the changelog before actually changing things

DayoDee
Jan 19, 2016, 05:09 PM
aida question once your done with updating do we have to update the tweaker as well or will it automatically do so on its own

Chump
Jan 19, 2016, 05:14 PM
Thanks for the hard work Aida

Enderhero
Jan 19, 2016, 05:21 PM
My comment was referring to the fact that hackers on the PC will show up on PS4 since their servers are connected, and Sony most likely threw a fit about that.



Nope, it's specifically targeting the Tweaker. Here's a snippet from the GG logs:



And yes, they call it the "PSO2_tweker", lol.


Ahhhh odd that after so long they decided to target it specifically. "we found the Tweker, finally the war is over!" *AIDA patches in a day*
lol. Great job in the speedy response to this BTW.

Shirokami
Jan 19, 2016, 05:24 PM
Update is live! It includes the new GN Field module (You knew it was going to be a 00 reference, hush) that will take care of the new GG issue (and can be expanded if they try to play more hardball later).

All you have to do is make sure that the PSO2 Tweaker is actually named "PSO2 Tweaker.exe", and you can play like normal. Enjoy!



It will do so the next time you open it.

So now we have a bypass for the hack-like damage counter instead of removing the threat, dangering everyone who uses the tweaker even further?
Oh, and trying to remove the english story patch seems to have destroyed half my game client, just like the "trans-am new patching method" has been doing for a couple of months.
http://puu.sh/mC3fh/73e865dd64.png

aiMute
Jan 19, 2016, 05:29 PM
Thanks for quick (and easy, lol) fix, AIDA.

So now we have a bypass for the hack-like damage counter instead of removing the threat, dangering everyone who uses the tweaker even further?

I don't think sega cares, they needed "everything cleaned up" for ps4 launch and they did it. The chances are they'll never touch it again until new major release and clean up fr higher-ups. Or non-JP users will get mass banned for clean ps4 experience but then tweaker or not it wont help you.

YuushaBozu
Jan 19, 2016, 05:32 PM
Update is live! It includes the new GN Field module (You knew it was going to be a 00 reference, hush) that will take care of the new GG issue (and can be expanded if they try to play more hardball later).

All you have to do is make sure that the PSO2 Tweaker is actually named "PSO2 Tweaker.exe", and you can play like normal. Enjoy!



It will do so the next time you open it.

AIDA thanks for your hard work! :D

Xaeris
Jan 19, 2016, 05:34 PM
Great, I figured there was a good chance this would be solved by the next time I was ready to play if I just waited a bit. Thanks for the great turnaround on this, AIDA.

Shirokami
Jan 19, 2016, 05:34 PM
Thanks for quick (and easy, lol) fix, AIDA.

I don't think sega cares, they needed "everything cleaned up" for ps4 launch and they did it. The chances are they'll never touch it again until new major release and clean up fr higher-ups. Or non-JP users will get mass banned for clean ps4 experience but then tweaker or not it wont help you.

You're missing the point.
It wasn't an error, it was the gameguard detecting tweaker as a hack tool because the damage counter is memory invading.
Instead of removing that threat, it now has a bypass for it, totally not the way to "fix" it because it makes every tweaker user as a hacker using a bypass.

Zorak000
Jan 19, 2016, 05:42 PM
does this mean we can't use the official launcher at all if we have tweaker installed?

Shirokami
Jan 19, 2016, 05:43 PM
does this mean we can't use the official launcher at all if we have tweaker installed?

Must be, because it will detect the hack in the tweaker.

YuiPods123
Jan 19, 2016, 05:49 PM
I keep getting server connection timed out after trying to log in.. am I doing something wrong?.. Do I need to reinstall?

PASxSPARTAN
Jan 19, 2016, 05:53 PM
4128 so i keep getting this when i start pso but i renamed the tweaker to "pso2 tweaker.exe"

EvilMag
Jan 19, 2016, 05:56 PM
I agree. the damage parser needs to go. I feel like that is why GG is going after tweaker.

Squall179
Jan 19, 2016, 05:58 PM
You're missing the point.
It wasn't an error, it was the gameguard detecting tweaker as a hack tool because the damage counter is memory invading.
Instead of removing that threat, it now has a bypass for it, totally not the way to "fix" it because it makes every tweaker user as a hacker using a bypass.

I have concerns about this matter to be honest. I think, Tweaker or not, I'm going to stick with Vita right now...Not that I personally make use of it, always had some concerns, but, I just have a bad feeling here.

untrustful
Jan 19, 2016, 05:58 PM
Couldn't you guys just uncheck the damage parser from the dll plugin list to stop tweaker from using it?

Squall179
Jan 19, 2016, 05:59 PM
Couldn't you guys just uncheck the damage parser from the dll plugin list to stop tweaker from using it?

No, a friend of mine utilizes the tweaker, unchecked the damage parser for the same concerns I have about it, and still got the NP1013.

Batty
Jan 19, 2016, 05:59 PM
opened tweaker and updated it, not i dont get np1013 error anymore, however i keep getting error 630 and get disconected every 5-10 mins :(

Shinamori
Jan 19, 2016, 06:00 PM
Don't run the GN Field.

Man Jackson
Jan 19, 2016, 06:00 PM
You're missing the point.
It wasn't an error, it was the gameguard detecting tweaker as a hack tool because the damage counter is memory invading.
Instead of removing that threat, it now has a bypass for it, totally not the way to "fix" it because it makes every tweaker user as a hacker using a bypass.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35543277/PSO2/cutins/mad.png
MAN JACKSON DOESN'T USE THE DAMAGE PARSER - WHICH, MAN JACKSON MIGHT ADD, GIVES YOU NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE ON-SCREEN - AND WAS STILL RUNNING INTO THE SAME ERROR AS EVERYONE ELSE!!! IN MAN JACKSON'S PERSONAL OPINION, YOU ARE TALKING ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS!!! AND MAN JACKSON KNOWS A THING OR TWO ABOUT BOLLOCKS!!!

EvilMag
Jan 19, 2016, 06:02 PM
Couldn't you guys just uncheck the damage parser from the dll plugin list to stop tweaker from using it?

you are completely missing the point. What the Damage parser is doing is going well over Sega's tolerate. Whether people are using it or not, GG is still flagging tweaker. Considering that GG/Sega seemed alright with tweaker for a long time and now it's going after it after a damage parser is released seems really fishy to me...

redx1xman
Jan 19, 2016, 06:02 PM
AIDA you are a god among humans thanks!

Kanna7
Jan 19, 2016, 06:03 PM
I keep getting the "GN Field establishment failed" error even when I already changed the name to "PSO2 Tweaker.exe".

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 19, 2016, 06:07 PM
I notice if I actually changed the file name of PSO2 Tweaker to "PSO2 Tweaker.exe" it would give me that GN particle failed message then when I logged into game it would give me NP1013 error.

When i put it back to original name....didn't get error message and so far haven't crashed

dot_Hacker
Jan 19, 2016, 06:10 PM
Not sure where to post. The patch works for tweaker, great job AIDA & crew
however, the game now stutters regularly. As in, listening to a skipping CD, there is even gameplay red light-greenlight style hiccups. Just me?

Edit: seems to have passed with time. will update if repeats.

NightfallG
Jan 19, 2016, 06:10 PM
Yeah, I'd certainly look into putting things like the damage parser on hold indefinitely. It's likely to have been the straw that broke the camel's back when it comes to Sega and nProtect's concern of the Tweaker.

Batty
Jan 19, 2016, 06:12 PM
anyone else getting kicked out of the game after like 10 mins because of error 603?

Bakuzan
Jan 19, 2016, 06:13 PM
Update is live! It includes the new GN Field module (You knew it was going to be a 00 reference, hush) that will take care of the new GG issue (and can be expanded if they try to play more hardball later).

All you have to do is make sure that the PSO2 Tweaker is actually named "PSO2 Tweaker.exe", and you can play like normal. Enjoy!



It will do so the next time you open it.

Im still getting NP1013d and now getting an interesting error

The Tweaker wont hide itself (like it usually does) when launching, and it displays an error line on the log that says "the specified executable is not a valid application for this os platform", but still launches the game (which 1013's after login)

Screenshot
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/Mikunki/error.jpg~original

Also, i dont know if with "making sure the Tweaker is named "PSO2 Tweaker.exe" you meant putting the ".exe" on top of the normal extension which it has already (in other words, making it's name PSO2 Tweaker.exe.exe, if you have the extensions showing)

I tried changing the name like that anyways (but wanted to clarify), and get the same errors

Help plox =(

Xira 1.05
Jan 19, 2016, 06:15 PM
To those calling for the damage parser to be removed / laying the blame for this at the damage parser's feet... if I remember correctly, aren't the Item and Title Translation plugins also based on memory reading/editing? Those have been around a lot longer haven't they?

Also if memory editing was the real reason they blacklisted the Tweaker, why did they blacklist the Tweaker, but not the DLLs which actually do the memory editing (thereby making it possible to still run item translation and damage parsing)?

And if *dons tinfoil hat for a moment* this was them trying to get rid of the Western players under the guise of an error -- why use such roundabout methods? Why not just ban every connection from non-Japanese IP addresses?

None of this makes any sense to me.

Variant
Jan 19, 2016, 06:15 PM
You're missing the point.
It wasn't an error, it was the gameguard detecting tweaker as a hack tool because the damage counter is memory invading.
Instead of removing that threat, it now has a bypass for it, totally not the way to "fix" it because it makes every tweaker user as a hacker using a bypass.

Yup, you're correct. It's also been made clear that it's a 'use at your own risk' application.

However, anyone who wants to use a proxy is shafted without it, same with anyone who wants items and titles translated. The damage dumper is just an additional thing on top of that. They're all using the same interface/source to do what they need to do.

Believe me when I say I wish there was a more convenient way to do this (and we looked), but GG kinda fucked us over the last update before this one, preventing us from enabling the proxy the old way. So, we just turned to the plugin method, and at that point there's pretty much no reason to not just use it to get other information like damage dumping.

That being said, I believe that we've done our due diligence to get that warning out there, so I'll assume anyone using it has made that choice after doing theirs. We've also made sure there's an easy and clear way to disable the plugins for those who are worried.

Hm, on the topic of why GG targets the tweaker... It's entirely possible that it's because of the damage dumper and that ACT plugin. Could also be because of the proxy (which would have stopped working without the new method, and this happened before we released the plugins). Arks Mod Tool works in the same way as the plugins, except it actively injects and rewrites executable memory, so there's that too.

Well, feel free to draw your conclusions. To me it's more like they're going after the proxy than just the damage dumper/title translator (which maybe is a nice bonus for them).

redx1xman
Jan 19, 2016, 06:22 PM
Renamed the file PSO2 Tweaker.exe as instructed still getting the NP1013 error...getting a GN Field popup that im not quite understand would love some clarification

Xira 1.05
Jan 19, 2016, 06:26 PM
Hm, on the topic of why GG targets the tweaker... It's entirely possible that it's because of the damage dumper and that ACT plugin. Could also be because of the proxy (which would have stopped working without the new method, and this happened before we released the plugins). Arks Mod Tool works in the same way as the plugins, except it actively injects things, so there's that too.

Well, feel free to draw your conclusions. To me it's more like they're going after the proxy than just the damage dumper/title translator.

I didn't think of the Proxy idea until now but I agree considering their aggressive stance on SEA players attempting to connect via VPN. There may be a way to test to see what Sega is really after... perhaps long term AIDA could look into splitting the Proxy and Tweaker into two separate programs again (and changing the Tweaker's name as a 'rebranding').

If GG then retargets the Proxy only, then we have our answer? Maybe?

Basically my idea here is compartmentalization: Having separate programs for the more potentially dangerous functions could go a long way towards figuring out Sega's stance on things!

hoangsea
Jan 19, 2016, 06:27 PM
after change name file i can login but "GN Field establishment failed" and NP1013 still happened
if i'm not change name it will not responding :(

Shirokami
Jan 19, 2016, 06:31 PM
To those calling for the damage parser to be removed / laying the blame for this at the damage parser's feet... if I remember correctly, aren't the Item and Title Translation plugins also based on memory reading/editing? Those have been around a lot longer haven't they?

Also if memory editing was the real reason they blacklisted the Tweaker, why did they blacklist the Tweaker, but not the DLLs which actually do the memory editing (thereby making it possible to still run item translation and damage parsing)?

And if *dons tinfoil hat for a moment* this was them trying to get rid of the Western players under the guise of an error -- why use such roundabout methods? Why not just ban every connection from non-Japanese IP addresses?

None of this makes any sense to me.

The damage parser is highly more invasive than the other plugins, it was even specified to "use at your own risk".

Man Jackson
Jan 19, 2016, 06:31 PM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35543277/PSO2/cutins/mad.png
MAN JACKSON WONDERS IF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RENAMING THEIR TWEAKERS AND HAVING PROBLEMS HAVE FILE EXTENSIONS DISPLAYED NORMALLY!!! MAN JACKSON THINKS IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY ARE EFFECTIVELY NAMING IT "PSO2 Tweaker.exe.exe" WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY CAUSE A FEW PROBLEMS!!! MAN JACKSON'S ADVICE IS THAT IF YOU'VE NEVER RENAMED YOUR TWEAKER, DO NOT TOUCH ITS NAME, IT WILL BE ABSOLUTELY FINE!!!

jooozek
Jan 19, 2016, 06:32 PM
the proxy is a separate thing, AIDA put the support of it in tweaker - you could have always used it without the proxy tweaker - https://pso2proxy.cyberkitsune.net/bluepill/ - i don't have idea how it all started tho, just saying, it's already standalone

Shadowcat9
Jan 19, 2016, 06:34 PM
YAY!!! NO MOEW 1013!!! THANK YOU AIDA!!! I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUU!!!!

blkbox11
Jan 19, 2016, 06:34 PM
I didn't think of the Proxy idea until now but I agree considering their aggressive stance on SEA players attempting to connect via VPN. There may be a way to test to see what Sega is really after... perhaps long term AIDA could look into splitting the Proxy and Tweaker into two separate programs again (and changing the Tweaker's name as a 'rebranding').

If GG then retargets the Proxy only, then we have our answer? Maybe?

Basically my idea here is compartmentalization: Having separate programs for the more potentially dangerous functions could go a long way towards figuring out Sega's stance on things!

As someone from SEA, I think this is a good point. Last I heard, PSO2SEA wasn't doing so well, and they may be blaming the Proxy for it (like it's a breach of contract if SEGA JP just continues to let it function), hence the attempts at shutting it down.

hoangsea
Jan 19, 2016, 06:35 PM
it have to rename to be "PSO2 Tweaker" and ".exe" file
so it magikaly works

thanks AIDA

Variant
Jan 19, 2016, 06:43 PM
The damage parser is highly more invasive than the other plugins, it was even specified to "use at your own risk".

Naw, I mentioned that it's the same as the proxy and translation ones now. They're ALL 'use at your own risk'.


the proxy is a separate thing, AIDA put the support of it in tweaker - you could have always used it without the proxy tweaker - https://pso2proxy.cyberkitsune.net/bluepill/ - i don't have idea how it all started tho, just saying, it's already standalone

They broke support for this a while ago when GG started NP1013ing for changing the client keys.

Ezodagrom
Jan 19, 2016, 06:44 PM
I didn't think of the Proxy idea until now but I agree considering their aggressive stance on SEA players attempting to connect via VPN. There may be a way to test to see what Sega is really after... perhaps long term AIDA could look into splitting the Proxy and Tweaker into two separate programs again (and changing the Tweaker's name as a 'rebranding').

If GG then retargets the Proxy only, then we have our answer? Maybe?

Basically my idea here is compartmentalization: Having separate programs for the more potentially dangerous functions could go a long way towards figuring out Sega's stance on things!
Or maybe some sort of tweaker lite, that only handles updating the game and the english/large files/story patches, I think something like this would be nice. ^^;

Meteor Weapon
Jan 19, 2016, 06:46 PM
I'm not sure if you guys knew about this.

https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12565607_1165083973509226_5508516017545372064_n.jp g?oh=506abdcaabaf15f8cc381199e2fdda3e&oe=5742315D&__gda__=1463427173_c6a48aa0afec745f1c212f8d66eee10 2