PSO2 Wiki Arks-Visiphone - Development

[Nanaha]

http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com/wiki/Main_Page

Dischord link(picture)http://puu.sh/mNbjz/e4298c0eb4.png (https://discordapp.com/invite/0lvIaw1lTIQfeiPS)

What we have right now


-Incomplete weapon lists
-a sorted complete Franka Co list http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com/wiki/Franka_Client_Orders
- incomplete photon art list
-incomplete enemy listing(darker, phantoms)


What we plan to work on


-Cataloguing all current objects ingame to google doc
-Create enemy listings
-Generate shop pages
-Get weapon list fully up to date
-templates for weapons/units/photon arts/techniques/technique customizations
-Encourage individual weapon page creation(add drop list)
-Add additional client orders
-Bring Photon Arts/Techs/Tech Crafts up to date
-Create costume template


What we don't have right now


-Everything else


Requests

Tell me if some information is wrong/missing in an assumedly correct page
*New Weapon Info
PAGE FILLERS WANTED
*Minimal experience needed to help out. Can be thought of as basically a copy paste job. Even less of a job if you know fancy things about excel reg expressions



Updates


6/2/16: Cataloguing resumes apace, weapons have been accounted for, costumes and cast parts prior to next scratch/update. Urgent note to self: Create the enemy list and shops so that drop lists for weapons can be filled. Finish up the potential page template.
5/16/16: Hey, I'm back! Google drive information is being updated to keep track of what's going on in the wiki. This might take a while, and information changes to wiki won't be soon. There may be a skin change in the near future however.
2/18/16: Kressida Client Orders partially added, all weaponlists now use numbersort and have droplists.
2/16/2016: General wiki upgrades; drop down menus, template cleaning, image optimization. Also a nifty eq alert.
2/13/2016: Move over to new domain and renamed wiki has happened. Whether we grabbed everything as we ran for it, I have no idea.
2/8/2016: Updates backlogged. Site stability is shaky. Possibility of renaming wiki and moving domain.
2/6/2016: Double sabers list updated, knuckles WIP

Double Sabers: Rose Glacee, Lili Piece, Coat Doublis, Idaten, Sackbuts(new tokyo weapon), nemesis, invade, austere, Knuckles: Zamlionea, Bert Schroud, Wrap Cruller, Riggoanga.
2/5/2016: Photon Art list generated.

Issues include no videos, untranslated descriptions, missing jet boot Pa's.
2/4/2016: Technique list rebuilt with less levels and video column(currently empty)"lost weapons" of Twin daggers added to list.

Twin Filphleo, Rugged Flan, Senno Shuuha, S.CN Stag(tokyo weapon), Dagger of Seraphi, Nemsis Dagger, Invade + Austere Fencer
2/2/2016: "Lost" weapon translated have been verified, thanks to people at Bumped and co. Darkers enemy list is being updated. Phantom enemy list still lacking content.
1/31/2016: Missing entries "lost weapons" added to Swords, Wired Lances, Partizans and Katanas.

Drop lists and number algorithm added to the above. Partizan images to be updated at later date.
1/29/2016: Starting updates to swiki weaponlist(swordlist updated, others pending)
1/28/2016: Nanapedia General Update thread is a launch.

All Franka Client Orders Added.

Comments
I got around to making one thread instead of many new ones, so there's that. I still need to account for Sea and Tw(major delays). Sortable tables working, but algorithms need to be changed. Need to make a list of pso2 specialists so that I can pester ask them for information clarification.
Noteworthy contributors
*Rxzlion - Website hoster piggy bank
*Synthsy - Contributor from pso2es translation project
*Totori - The tireless uploader of images
*Electrolytes - Carted in weapon lists from cirnopedia
*Schtservperson/untrustful - Created the weapon/unit templates
*Rekima - Created many Twin Machine Gun individual pages
*Lostbob117 - Fixes for the weapon lists

[lunamaniac]

This is looking really good!

[Tyroki]

A replacement for the ever slow to update Cirnopedia, hmm?

If I could suggest NOT having a white background though, that'd be great. Something a little darker, but not too dark.

Otherwise, looking good so far.

[Aldotsk]

This is actually an amazing first step. I'd appreciate your contribution. Cirnopedia admins have gone hiatus or something from managing the site and I just was getting tired of using swiki 60% of the time. Hope this will be fully going green light!

[Nanaha]

A replacement for the ever slow to update Cirnopedia, hmm?

If I could suggest NOT having a white background though, that'd be great. Something a little darker, but not too dark.

Otherwise, looking good so far.

I'll..uh...do what I can, but css really isn't my place to shine. Now if there were some random curious person who doesn't mind designing/experimenting/creating one, then I won't say no.

ie. I struggle to even change the background color

[Nanaha]

All Franka orders have been added to the Franka order page. There's also a table of contents to boot.

Franka Client Orders (http://nanapedia-pso2.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Franka_Client_Orders)

[Flaoc]

missing the 2 ultimate orders but otherwise looks good

[Nanaha]

Realized I forgot a pipe character. Also filled in some unknown info I forgot to look up. Everything should be there now.



Probably.

[Eternal255]

This is great, thanks for doing this.

I second the "not using a white background" thing. Perhaps a lightish blue like Cernopedia had, or even the option to choose (as there as well).

Where are you getting translations?

[Freshellent]

Excellent work, thank you!

[Nanaha]

There is an option to customize your own wiki background(but that's probably beyond the average player to bother doing)

I've changed the background in the css, but I guess host hasn't applied it yet, or I'm just actually really bad at css.

When easy task meets in-game translation, we get.....an easy wiki page.
[spoiler-box]http://puu.sh/mNmam/a2e3edade8.jpg[/spoiler-box]



*edit:Experimentation with coloring continues. The site may randomly be changing colors. Someone please find me an adult who can do css. Halp.

[Eternal255]

I can do CSS, but I'm not sure what my availability is. Feel free to send me a PM though.

[sqd]

Uh...made an account to poke around the css since I was bored but where do you find it?

[Nanaha]

The css is here: http://nanapedia-pso2.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css

However to edit it, you will need to pm me to get a promotion to admin so that you can edit the sheet. It's probably different than what you usually expect since the css is stuck on MediaWiki.

The following have been added to Weapon-list Simple Swords


Avici - 阿鼻
Sapphire Fear - サファイフィーア
Jerate - ジェラーテ
Nox Veil - ノクスクヴェル
Battle Tact - イクサコウシャ
Sustain Lock - サステインロック
Seiga Sword - セイガーソード(tokyo 13* weapon)

[LonelyGaruga]

Sapphire Fear is definitely not a correct translation for サファイフィーア, サファイ reads as Safai/Sapphi. Sapphire is サファイア, the syllable that forms the -re sound is absent. It's a palette swap of サファイザリア which is listed as Sapphizaria on Cirnopedia (which could also be written as Sapphi Zaria), so Sapphifear or Sapphi Fear should do it. Those two weapons have their names derived from the male Fighter themed outfit サファイギリアス/Sapphi Gilias (http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%82%B5%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3% 82%AE%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2%E3%82%B9).

Japanese words listed in katakana are also normally left untranslated, so I would recommend leaving イクサコウシャ as Ikusa Kousha. This one's derived from ハマノイクサ/Hamano Ikusa (http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%83%8F%E3%83%9E%E3%83%8E%E3%82%A4%E3% 82%AF%E3%82%B5).

Generally speaking, for weapons, costumes, and the like, katakana is converted into romanji but otherwise left alone, kanji in weapons are the same, and kanji in costumes are converted into English (which is kind of inconsistent with weapons but eh).

Though, is this even the right place to post things to be corrected? Sorry if it's not.

[Nanaha]

It's a-ok. Better to tell me than not touching on the topic. I'll change it up as I get the images ready.

[Levlia]

Awsome Job!

[sqd]

The css is here:

However to edit it, you will need to pm me to get a promotion to admin so that you can edit the sheet. It's probably different than what you usually expect since the css is stuck on MediaWiki.

No problem, just wanted to see what it looked like. If I come up with something I'll let you know.

[Nanaha]

This is....ah geez I should have looked at this sorting algorithm before. It compares each character then sorts them. Which makes everything bonkers for us. Since the algorithm goes "0123....", 1004 is listed above 1009 because 4>9. Then 1004 is greater than 988 because
4 > " ".


So then I changed the algorithm to numbers :u

It should be okayish now, fixing up the other pages atm.

[Nanaha]

Swords and katanas have had number algorithm added. Also started adding in drop lists. It won't have really anything inside until I fill the enemy lists.

Anyway, swords and katanas should be updated to have all the weapons from swiki. Albeit much info not transferred over yet.

[Blue Froman]

Thanks! Coming back recently, this has been a bigger help than the dried up Cirnopedia!

[Kichi]

Looks like Latent info isn't formatting right in the tooltips you get by hovering over latent name. Newlines showing up as a diamond with a question mark.

[BubblyBoar]

I'm interested in doing individual PA/Tech pages, basic that is what I'd use the wiki the most for and it's one thing Cirno didn't have that I wish it had. It was always bothersome that there weren't video examples of PAs for me to see and judge before I got to work on them. And with individual pages, you won't need the all 17 levels on the list itself. That said, I have absolutely no idea for to do work on the wiki, but if I could contribute in other ways, that'd be great.

[Nanaha]

Looks like Latent info isn't formatting right in the tooltips you get by hovering over latent name. Newlines showing up as a diamond with a question mark.

It's probable that I'll revert the pots template to what we had previously if the original creator isn't back to fix it.

[Nanaha]

Opinions wanted for the technique list. It currently shows all 17 levels, but this rather takes up alot of space, so I'm thinking of putting 17 levels in its individual page.

What are typically the breakpoints/important levels that a technique should need?

[Azure Falcon]

1, 10, 16, 17. Those are the common ones, I mean does anyone really care what a level 6 disc is when you can buy up to level 10 from player shops?

[Xion14Blade]

1, 10, 16, 17. Those are the common ones, I mean does anyone really care what a level 6 disc is when you can buy up to level 10 from player shops?

If only those levels are listed, then is it possible for an additional link to be added for a demo of the tech, maybe? Seems helpful for beginners.

[Nanaha]

http://nanapedia-pso2.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Techniques_List

Update made to tech list, various levels removed, space left for video of techs, namespaces saved for indivual pages.

[wefwq]

http://nanapedia-pso2.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Techniques_List

Update made to tech list, various levels removed, space left for video of techs, namespaces saved for indivual pages.
Stat row look rather confusing due to it's labeling.
Instead of using "Power Accuracy" maybe you can just use "Power"?
[SPOILER-BOX]http://puu.sh/mWoo3.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Nanaha]

rip, I forgot a row. Time to go reorganize.

[Nanaha]

Well got the technique list fixed, how do you guys want the videos implemented? While I would love to say I could put a video player in the wiki itself, the host doesn't support that, so it's most likely youtube links unless someone has a different idea.

Also, Photon art list has been generated. Jet boots is missing quite a few PA's, some descriptions are missing, and like tech list, no videos.
http://puu.sh/mXDHQ/b4a2ba0d56.png (http://nanapedia-pso2.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Photon_Arts_List)

Anything else I missed?

[vantpers]

Why would one need videos for PAs? Seems like a waste. Also the descriptions are kinda lacking, seems like just ingame descriptions. People use Swiki precisely because it has a lot of info on PAs like where the SA frames are, where you can cancel it, how many % of the power description each part of PA does, how gear changes the working of the PA, then there is frame data at the bottom but it's another thing.

[Punisher106]

Drop locations for things would be very useful.

[Nanaha]

Drop location will probably be filled in later, I've decided on just linking short videos of the PA to YouTube, and will probably add a new column for all the technical information simply named notes.

And...frame data?

[vantpers]

Basically Swiki kept it simple and they just run everything in 60FPS and keep track of how long a PA lasts from PP consumption of JA, and how often charges last too. So you can calculate on paper DPS you would get by spamming the PA over and over again. Pretty useful in practice.

[Nanaha]

I'll let swiki continue with that frame data information grabbing. Unless someone feels like volunteering, I'll probably take the fruits of their results for the notes section(once I get to it).

The current organization of the costumes section is as follows:
http://puu.sh/mYZxO/472d335a86.png

I don't really have information on the hairstyle bit, but I've heard that layered has its own hairstyles differing from tickets? Would like confirmation on this so I can keep/remove hairstyles from this list.

[Rayden]

I noticed that the skill simulator link in the left sidebar is wrong. It points to the old version from months ago, rather than the current one at this URL: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php

Edit: Also, the sorting for the columns on the weapon list pages seems broken... For example, on the jet boots page (http://nanapedia-pso2.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Simple_Jet_Boots_List), if I sort by the "Base" or "+10" columns, they aren't all in order properly. I'm not sure which stat it's supposed to be sorting by (since you put all three stat types in the same column), but it doesn't seem to be sorting properly by any of them - some of them will be ordered, but every now and then it'll jump massively to a significantly different value on the next row. In any case, I think it'd be a lot better if you added a column for each weapon stat, like the JP wiki does. It's very useful to be able to quickly sort by S-ATK and T-ATK separately with wands and jet boots.

[Nanaha]

Ah, I didn't even realize I had the old version. Should be up to date on Arks layer one now.

[Rayden]

Please see my edit above, if you missed it.

Another issue. The all-class weapons don't display the icon for Summoner.

[Nanaha]

Its an issue currently being addressed. For lists(Swords, Wired Lances, Partizans, Twin Daggers, Double Sabers, and Katanas), these currently have working number sorting and all-class icons.

The others will be fixed as I am adding in missing weapons.

*If you would like to know why number sorting doesn't work, I think i addressed it in an earlier post

[vantpers]

I would also delete the EN Database link as it has sometimes hilariously wrong info like Sacrifice Bite giving 30% bonus to swing speed. Other than that it has outdated description like Nova Strike last hit dealing the most damage. Guilty Break hitting above its notation with full charge. Pendulum Roll suddenly doing 6 hits. I could probably find more

[Nanaha]

Do you mean here?
https://sites.google.com/site/pso2db/home

I've been using alot of the names in here as reference for when I'm doing translating for most commonly, untranslated potentials.

[vantpers]

Yes that, better not touch anything complicated there.

[CocoCrispy]

Some things I noticed when casually browsing.

In t mechguns, you have a picture of the rifle Blaster in the 7 star slot where Egg Blaster should be. It's even called Blaster.

The Talis Gadianna is a recurring weapon in the online games. In the original PSO it was localized as Guardianna but it looked the same and it was a card weapon type. Dunno if you're making translation liberties with the name otherwise.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/phantasystar/images/f/f4/125px-Gaurdianna-4.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100622212037

Besides that, it's really coming along!

[Nanaha]

Some things I noticed when casually browsing.

In t mechguns, you have a picture of the rifle Blaster in the 7 star slot where Egg Blaster should be. It's even called Blaster.


That's...odd. I guess it wasn't converted over correctly. Should be fixed now.


The Talis Gadianna is a recurring weapon in the online games. In the original PSO it was localized as Guardianna but it looked the same and it was a card weapon type. Dunno if you're making translation liberties with the name otherwise.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/phantasystar/images/f/f4/125px-Gaurdianna-4.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100622212037

Besides that, it's really coming along!


I went with Gadianna because of the way the japanese sounds. If people are bothered by it though, I can change it to what it was localized as.

[Nanaha]

Have been delaying updates to wiki information due to possibilities of wiki domain movement and unreliability of webhost.

It's too much trouble for me to worry about, so I'll just get back to updating the one on the free host. The following list will be weapon pages that I will be creating soon-ish. Expect them after I finish listing the rest of the missing weapons from the weapons list.
[spoiler-box]
Red 'Weapons'
Ares 'Series'
Invade 'Series'
Austere 'Series'
Tokyo '13* Series'
Boots of Seraphi
Elysion
Rikauteri
Queen Vera
Skull 'Kuron Series'
Orbit 'Series'
Evil 'Magatsu Series'
Bert Rodan
Nepto Rod
Psycho Wand
Sange Yasha
Nox Dinas
Niren Orochi
Zirenheit
Chvaia Tiger
Lizgrips
Twin Yasminkov 2000H
Blitz Fender
Lasahadis
Fuuga Naginata
Stark Brush
Berdysh
Meteor Cudgel
God Hand
Celesta Laser
Canaropp - キャナロップ(not yet truly translated)
Fleuve Lyra
ノクスリフェル(nox rod)
Koushousen
Squier Ligier
Maihime Kaougi
Pioni Link
Gal Wind
Gadianna
Nox Krieg
Summit Moon
Shinkou Kozuchi
ズィレンハイト(not yet translated)
Divine Raikou
Edel Arrow
Primera Fiore
Saika Hyouri
Coat Doublis
Apprentice Grudge
Harai Houshun
[/spoiler-box]


Considering the enormous task that the costume page presents, don't expect any large amounts of it to be online, if any is. I'll see if I can get the new patch items in there soon though, alongside other new releases.

[Nanaha]

Transferred the wiki to a new host. We now have alot more freedom in what we can do, so progress should be forthcoming.
http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com/wiki/Main_Page


Looks like it's time to change my sig.

[Nanaha]

Improvements have been made. I think.


Drop down menus are being worked on, the weapon templates are being updated, plans to optimize the images so pages load faster are underway. Cleaning up of unecessary elements is an in progress project.

[JoycieC]

Oh, someone else started a wiki too.

I have OracleWiki, a semi-secret project of mine which is currently down for maint atm, but it's been a project of mine since last year.

Perhaps we should consider collaborating efforts?
Pics (or links) this weekend perhaps, but it would be more efficient to collaborate than compete.

[Nanaha]

Uhm, yeah, just get me the link to your page and we'll see about what we can do.

[Nanaha]

Anchoring monsters is currently in progress, so hopefully we can start getting drop lists filled soon. Progress has been a little slow due to business in real life, but we should be able to start making progress again soon. I blame...
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/59673889.jpg

[Nanaha]

-drags this out of the deep dark depths of pso2 forums-

I've been unfortunately gone(for a consecutive amount of days) due to a number of school activities(again). Unfortunately, this means that I actually don't really have any idea of whats new. Latest memory is the valentines chocolate event eq.

I'll be trying to get back up to date soon. People to fill out weapon details are still wanted though!

[Nanaha]

Unfortunate habit of dropping in and out, but i'm back here again. As always, i'm looking for any help I can get. The best way to contact me would be through a direct message to me on the wiki's dischord channel, which is in the original post.


Currently the google drive is being updated to accommodate the massive changes that has happened with the patch. This drive is only to keep track of what's on the wiki however. Changes to the wiki may be delayed for some time due to this.

(For viewing pleasure)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16ELCAxPnh5wXrvPcLw1xgzNbfLItn8CjqWC8B4Dwbkg/edit?usp=sharing
The only thing available right now is the weapons sheet, everything else is in utter disarray. And even the weapon sheet isn't done yet.

[Nanaha]

Update here, progress is continuing apace. Besides some minor edits, no major additions to the wiki. However, all weapons have been catalogued for later addition to the wiki in the google doc. Costumes and cast parts have also been catalogued as of this date(will need to be updated when new scratch hits).
*this doesnt include the inner/base/outer wears yet