Recycle Shop Change

[Z-0]

http://pso2.jp/players/support/measures/?id=8387

tl;dr Items in, Items Out

Because hardly anybody liked the new recycle shop change last maintenance, and because it's hard to count when you're trading in a lot of items (plus it's just annoying if not trading in a lot of items), they're changing the recycle shop again:

- The "choose how many you want" option will be removed.
- When trading in for items, it will calculate the maximum number you can obtain.

For example, if you give in 12 10* weapons, you'll get 12 Excubes. If you give in 7 10* units, you'll get 1 Sphere (and 2 units back).

[Gaylar]

So basically how it should have been from the start?

[Xaeris]

I always figured there was some existing limitation in their code that prevented them from doing this in the first place. So we've been putting up with this BS because they thought it was a legitimately good interface? That's...something. Oh well, at least they listened to the complaints and responded promptly.

[Shadowth117]

I always figured there was some existing limitation in their code that prevented them from doing this in the first place. So we've been putting up with this BS because they thought it was a legitimately good interface? That's...something. Oh well, at least they listened to the complaints and responded promptly.

No. You'll actually already see a more proper implementation, which has been in since crafting came out, in the crafting desyth area. Why this wasn't something they felt like doing for cubes, I have no idea. I realize different people might have worked on crafting versus general interface, but it would seem like a no brainer to let people select however many rather than selecting a set amount for whatever reason.

[Gwyndolin]

I always figured there was some existing limitation in their code that prevented them from doing this in the first place. So we've been putting up with this BS because they thought it was a legitimately good interface? That's...something. Oh well, at least they listened to the complaints and responded promptly.

Yes, I'm pleasantly surprised they turned this around so quickly.

[Enforcer MKV]

I always figured there was some existing limitation in their code that prevented them from doing this in the first place. So we've been putting up with this BS because they thought it was a legitimately good interface? That's...something. Oh well, at least they listened to the complaints and responded promptly.

Laziness. The limitation you're looking for is laziness.

Maybe that's a bit unfair. I mean, I'm sure making horrible looking costumes took priority.

Totally not bitter. Nope.

[TaigaUC]

Amazing. Honestly wasn't expecting them to care.
Must have been a lot of complaints.

[Kondibon]

Amazing. Honestly wasn't expecting them to care.
Must have been a lot of complaints.They're pretty prompt about changes people want if fixing them wouldn't circumvent an AC thing.

[Mizel]

That's the fastest i've ever seen SEGA respond to feedback. I guess with enough complaints, anything is possible.

[landman]

Has any Japanese player complained about the "confirm" button changes in the gamepad regarding NPC text bubbles? basically it has had for four years the "skip" function the key Ctrl has by holding it and now I need to smash the button.

[Z-0]

It still works... you hold Ctrl, lol.

On gamepad, you hold cancel.

[pkemr4]

now if only the let you spam E or esc when you mine something instead of hitting enter

[landman]

It still works... you hold Ctrl, lol.

That's what I do, but it's still annoying to use the keyboard for something I didn't need to before.


On gamepad, you hold cancel.
Nope, not in my cancel button (in my case B button)

[the_importer_]

Speaking of changes, how to the JPN players feel about gathering?

[Shadowstarkirby]

Thank god. Seriously, that update just made exchange so much more cumbersome. I did get used to it though...and by used to it, I mean do the same 1:1 and 10:10 cube exchange only with more button clicking because after a while playing the "Guess the # of rares in your inventory!" game, it overall felt slower than just doing the former.

[xxmadplayerxx]

TBH i didn't mind it, it took less time than it did previously, but since they are changing it will take even less time!, hopefully they do that with Zieg too

[Tunga]

So we won't be able to cube 9,990 weapons now? ffs sega...

In all seriousness that system was awful. But it's nice to know they did not let it live for more than a week.

[Z-0]

That's what I do, but it's still annoying to use the keyboard for something I didn't need to before.


Nope, not in my cancel button (in my case B button)
Try jump. I press × (which is my jump and cancel button) and it works fine. In both cases though you must only start holding after the first bubble comes up, doesn't work if you hold it beforehand, never has done.

Speaking of changes, how to the JPN players feel about gathering?
It got panned, nobody likes it.

[landman]

Try jump. I press × (which is my jump and cancel button) and it works fine. In both cases though you must only start holding after the first bubble comes up, doesn't work if you hold it beforehand, never has done.

Yes, that's how it has always worked for me as well, but something changed this update and it's no longer working, both in my main PC and in a Virtual machine.

Edit: actually, no, before the update I used the confirm button, now nothing works.

[Achelousaurus]

Sounds nice. And I'm pleasantly surprised Sega is changing this so quickly. Thought it would stick with us for a long time.

[untrustful]

I always figured there was some existing limitation in their code that prevented them from doing this in the first place. So we've been putting up with this BS because they thought it was a legitimately good interface? That's...something. Oh well, at least they listened to the complaints and responded promptly.

I LEGIT THOUGHT THIS TOO.


Laziness. The limitation you're looking for is laziness.

THIS TOO.

gj sega you did a thing

[Selphea]

Now the bottleneck is mass tekking, not mass cubing :O!

[Misaki Ki]

Tekking was always the issue for me, excubbing always went pretty fast so I never considered it much of an issue.

I'm pretty sure right now I have over 1000 untekked rares sitting in storage..... *cries*

[SteveCZ]

I enjoy the tradition of people melting their net and computer after the lots-of-drops EQ. Maybe just leave it that way for tekking. :wacko:



I'm pretty sure right now I have over 1000 untekked rares sitting in storage..... *cries*

Solution: Select all, discard. I did it once cause I was sick of it too (and was curious as well), just for "FUN". :D

[Aine]

For example, if you give in 12 10* weapons, you'll get 12 Excubes. If you give in 7 10* units, you'll get 1 Sphere (and 2 units back).

technically it doesn't specify you'll get excess items back so there's a chance those 2 units will get eaten up by SEGA programming

[Z-0]

Yeah, it doesn't but I'm going to *assume* they'll come back, since it says it'll calculate the "maximum amount" you're entitled to.

Ah, what am I kidding, they'll get eaten up. _(:3」∠)_

[Zeroem]

And just when I'm getting used to it. Oh well.

But seriously, thank god SEGA changed the system to a (so far, on face value) better one.
Doing maths everytime during recycling rares for cubes are not.....pleasant.

[Tunga]

Mathematics Online 2

[Flaoc]

Yeah, it doesn't but I'm going to *assume* they'll come back, since it says it'll calculate the "maximum amount" you're entitled to.

Ah, what am I kidding, they'll get eaten up. _(:3」∠)_

yep this exactly :-?

[wefwq]

I don't even know why are they think doing math before cubbing weapon even a good idea.

[the_importer_]

It got panned, nobody likes it.

What, Japanese players hate it? They're not down with the "Pay for better tools and more tries" tactic :p

[Saffran]

I hated gathering too, but at lvl 8, if you use your recipies, you can get some things going.
Plus, the only interesting ring is the cheap one the tutorial gives you...

[Macman]

Just change the size of your inventory window that pops up when you select excubes to fit only 10 weapons. ezpz

[TaigaUC]

If I had access to the data files, I would mod the "RARE DROP" notification to say "COMMON TRASH DROP", because that's what most of them are.
Or "EXPCUBE GET".

[Macman]

I dream of a day when 10-12* are in gold boxes so those stupid rappy ECs make some damn sense. Sadly, that color is reserved for matter board drops. :rolleyes:

[TaigaUC]

Other games:
RARE DROP!
"Ohhhhhhhh!! Grats!!!"

PSO2:
RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!!
"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

[Petunia]

I seriously sounds like the dev team doesn't get people to beta test these big changes. I mean average people, not internal testing. Like they just get an idea and roll with it, thinking that because they think its a good idea that everyone will think its a good idea.

And we're gonna get a FF14 cross over event some time in the future... I'm surprised a team as dedicated as Yoshi P's would even want to talk to a team like the PSO2 one, let alone do a cross over.

[Meteor Weapon]

If I had access to the data files, I would mod the "RARE DROP" notification to say "COMMON TRASH DROP", because that's what most of them are.
Or "EXPCUBE GET".
I'm sure AIDA's team can do that somehow lol.

[Hysteria1987]

I seriously sounds like the dev team doesn't get people to beta test these big changes. I mean average people, not internal testing. Like they just get an idea and roll with it, thinking that because they think its a good idea that everyone will think its a good idea.

And we're gonna get a FF14 cross over event some time in the future... I'm surprised a team as dedicated as Yoshi P's would even want to talk to a team like the PSO2 one, let alone do a cross over.

Hey, money talks :-P

I'd heard once that the PSO2 team doesn't even have a dev server - if true, that means they're doing all their build and test on local machines, using something like TFS to share, which means nobody outside of their group would likely get much of a chance to see it before go-live... It wouldn't surprise me if there was no user acceptance testing, frankly a whole lot of companies in the business of coding stuff don't follow through on that step enough.

[ClairVauxBernardus]

not yet changed

[elryan]

Other games:
RARE DROP!
"Ohhhhhhhh!! Grats!!!"

PSO2:
RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!! RARE DROP!!
"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

Well technically you'll invoke the former response when something like this happens.

http://i.imgur.com/Jub34GK.jpg?1

Nowadays I only set the RARE DROP sign when 10* above drops. (Via game settings)

[Sp-24]

Well technically you'll invoke the former response when something like this happens.
It's probably Slave or Nemesis.

[Dark Priest]

It's probably Slave or Nemesis.

Actually it's probably a 13 star candy drop, i'v been trolled twice so far by that, i saw that symbol and got all excited, and it was a fucking candy drop.