XBox: The Official "OMG! XBox is hacked thread!" [Archive]

vanhalendlrband

04-27-2003, 07:56 PM

Isn't this "hacking" as we so love to call it. Just the code generators like GameShark? And if so why should we pay for a game that from what I remember on the DreamCast days was that it doesn't matter who or where you were you could get hacked. "Stay out of the bullshit" is a bunch of bullshit. You can't get away from it. You have to find friends for one and then stick to those ppl the whole game which severely limits the game as an "online" game. Not only that but if we're paying 13.95/mth(8.95 U.S.) and our characters that we're putting hundreds of hours in for are gonna get deleted by some fucking fag then what is the point? Tell me why play if you can have it thrown all away.

SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko

04-27-2003, 08:02 PM

oimg xbox sux omfg gaymecube blows

Droxitr

04-27-2003, 08:44 PM

HOLY SHIT!!! XBOX HAS BEEN HACKED?!?!!?

...

Just had to get that out of my system...

Robomonke

04-27-2003, 08:52 PM

Hate to say I told you so, but...

I told ya so.

shiznitty

04-27-2003, 11:11 PM

does that mean ppl can get noled?

Aurra

04-27-2003, 11:23 PM

On 2003-04-27 21:11, shiznitty wrote:
does that mean ppl can get noled?

Maybe eventually... but I doubt it. I'm no expert on this kind of stuff, but here's why I think NOLing in particular will be tough to pull off on Xbox Live.

NOLing was possible because of using a device which re-wrote the game's code (Gameshark, Xploder, etc). For anyone who's trying, these types of devices are super easy to detect (and Xbox Live is trying). You can't really do that type of stuff just by hacking the hard drive on your PC and editing the hexidecimal values of your items and character and such.

Again though, like I said... I'm no expert. Maybe Baru could shed a little more light on the situation.

Lord_Ariakas

04-28-2003, 12:03 AM

I heard PSOX is hacked by modifying files on a bootleg copy. So they can't use "hacks" online right? Since Live will ban you if you try to log-in with a mod chip enabled, and you can't run a bootleg copy without a mod chip on.

So the extent of the hacks so far is just some level 200 chars running around with hacked items, which can be dealt with using feedback. Not a big deal, I hope it doesn't get worse tho.

BAKED

04-28-2003, 05:26 AM

Yea, fucking of coarse the damn JAPS hacked the Xbox b4 we even new it was goin on. On they are smart as hell w/ computers and they have this game for fucking months.

deathcircuit

04-28-2003, 07:37 AM

I thought it would make it easier by pc. Seeing as how you can pretty much make it a really big hex editor...

Long---Shot

04-28-2003, 07:54 AM

why the hell wasnt there a GAMECUBE HACKED! thread too?? it was hacked before the xbox version ever was. ppl are still trying to defend that it hasnt just like ppl cant get over that the xbox version has. bunch biased hypocrits

Bloodberry

04-28-2003, 08:12 AM

"Since Live will ban you if you try to log-in with a mod chip enabled, and you can't run a bootleg copy without a mod chip on."

Nothing to do with this really, but I'm sorta sure I read somewhere that it was easy, just altering/gatekeeping what your box sent out, essentially making sure live only sent out the things you wanted (i.e. no modchip). I dunno though, and I can't find the link.

The thing is a lot like a computer from what I've been told so it wouldn't be all that difficult, would it?

Robomonke

04-28-2003, 08:19 AM

On 2003-04-28 03:26, BAKED wrote:
Yea, fucking of coarse the damn JAPS hacked the Xbox b4 we even new it was goin on. On they are smart as hell w/ computers and they have this game for fucking months.

Uhh... dude first of all. JP not Japs. Thats a derogitory term. Second watch the language, unless your a mod or above the law you can't use profanities on this forum. 3rd it's surprisingly easy to hack the game. It's not like you have to be a computer god to do it. Some American would have done it anyway. I know people who without a modchip have hacked their xboxes to play halo online. Of course theres nobody on there except the other people who did it (which was like 14 people) but anyway calm down about it. Just becuse a few people hacked doesn't mean you have to hate all the Japanese. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_no.gif

Robomonke

04-28-2003, 08:22 AM

On 2003-04-28 05:54, Long---Shot wrote:
why the hell wasnt there a GAMECUBE HACKED! thread too?? it was hacked before the xbox version ever was. ppl are still trying to defend that it hasnt just like ppl cant get over that the xbox version has. bunch biased hypocrits

I haven't heard anyone say anything Hypocritical. Also the Gc hasn't truely been hacked. Only duping is currently done. There's no lvl 200 hack or item hack like on the xbox one.

SATAN666

04-28-2003, 09:34 AM

On 2003-04-28 06:22, Robomonke wrote:

On 2003-04-28 05:54, Long---Shot wrote:
why the hell wasnt there a GAMECUBE HACKED! thread too?? it was hacked before the xbox version ever was. ppl are still trying to defend that it hasnt just like ppl cant get over that the xbox version has. bunch biased hypocrits

I haven't heard anyone say anything Hypocritical. Also the Gc hasn't truely been hacked. Only duping is currently done. There's no lvl 200 hack or item hack like on the xbox one.

Game has been hacked like this.

There are now Mags with 200 points in one stat, demonic fork, flame garment and easter eggs were unlocked by one or more people well before the easter event.

Not all the hacked items that have been unlocked early have made it into (duping)circulation, but its definately been going on for awhile now.

FreakinRican

04-28-2003, 10:07 AM

HAR HAR GC AND XBOX SUX0RZ! ALL YUO FAN BOYS ARE TEH SUCK! PS2 PSO IS NEVER GOIGN TO BE HAKCED! IT RULZ YUOR SCHOOLS!

fyrewyre

04-28-2003, 01:11 PM

before i read any further...may i remind ppl that the front page specifically says "..Our admin, LollipopLolita was on PSOX JP online, witnessed hacking.." so anyone including my 15 yr old brother says its possible to get on without a chip...evidently. ok...now to read on...

GtSaiyaMan

04-28-2003, 01:50 PM

Umm....We get the point that it has been hacked. But the question is....What does this mean? Will there be PKing? Hacked items, or what?

Cashewman

04-28-2003, 01:57 PM

God I really hope that it doesnt become how the dreamcast was.

Step 1) Log on, go to lobby.
Step 2) Loser in lobby decides to use Razonde on everyone.
Step 3) Death.
Step 4) Restart your game only to find your character data is corrupt and cant be used anymore.
Step 5) Remove Dreamcast from the bindings of Gravity.

vanhalendlrband

04-28-2003, 02:57 PM

On 2003-04-28 08:07, FreakinRican wrote:
HAR HAR GC AND XBOX SUX0RZ! ALL YUO FAN BOYS ARE TEH SUCK! PS2 PSO IS NEVER GOIGN TO BE HAKCED! IT RULZ YUOR SCHOOLS!

PS2 won't be able keep hackers off either. Talk about the easiest system to hack on. Besides the fact that your PS2 online PSO will only be controlled by SEGA not SONY and SEGA. Besides will there ever be a PSO on SONY?

vanhalendlrband

04-28-2003, 02:59 PM

On 2003-04-28 11:57, Cashewman wrote:
God I really hope that it doesnt become how the dreamcast was.

Step 1) Log on, go to lobby.
Step 2) Loser in lobby decides to use Razonde on everyone.
Step 3) Death.
Step 4) Restart your game only to find your character data is corrupt and cant be used anymore.
Step 5) Remove Dreamcast from the bindings of Gravity.

Lol No DOUBT!!! If i'm payin' for XBOX LIVE and PSO they sure as hell better be working on some better shit.

eXo

04-28-2003, 04:29 PM

On 2003-04-27 14:03, kagero wrote:
to the one who said that settles it, im stickin to GC. Im sorry, but dont make me laugh, if any system is more hacked its GameCube Verion!! Trust me on this one,

Heh well duh thats a funny statment,to say Kagero I mean come on,isnt P.S.O Gamecube suppose to be more hacked out then PSO X, its only common sense that this would happen because P.S.O Game Cube has been out way way way WAY !!!! longer http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif if for some reason PSO xbox becomes more hacked out, actually it will be pretty sad because its not any reason for there hacks to catch up to gameCubes http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

FnalKnight

04-28-2003, 04:44 PM

Just exactly what is hacked. And how do you hack <takes out notepaper and pen>. Joking. So. How are they hacking?

DeckonFrost

04-28-2003, 08:22 PM

I find it funny, that only weeks after it's initial US release, the XBOX version has in many ways passed the GC problems with hackers...

I have not, and doubt I ever will see actual hacked characters on the GC. There are no characters that have been altered to level 200...

Of course duping is the major problem with the GC, but if that's the biggest problem the GC version has, I'll take it...

200 Level characters in only a week or two... hmm... seems to me that there are more hacks out there for the XBOX PSO...

Funny how things end up when Microsoft takes over...

Barubary6

04-28-2003, 10:16 PM

I'm really happy that nobody is blaming me for what's happening on Xbox PSO.

-- Barubary

LollipopLolita

04-28-2003, 10:39 PM

I will start that off Baru. Damn it baru you wench! YOU HACKED PSOX

Barubary6

04-29-2003, 01:24 AM

On 2003-04-28 18:22, DeckonFrost wrote:
Funny how things end up when Microsoft takes over...

The problem is the inherent insecurity in the Xbox's copy protection system. Because Xbox games are easy to copy and use offline, it is very easy to modify the game in some way before burning a copy to play. If you modify certain game data files, you can affect many things, such as how much EXP monsters give you, and what items they drop. (I personally don't know how to do it; I just know the basic theory behind it.)

On the Dreamcast, some people made copies of the game and hacked the data files to cheat, burning a new CD each time they change it. On Xbox, the same idea applies, except "burning" a new copy is a simple matter of replacing a file on the hard drive.

The basic reason Gamecube hasn't been hacked (besides extremely rare instances) is that piracy hasn't hit the Gamecube yet. You can't burn a modified copy if you can't burn a copy. If PSO were for PS2, it would be hacked too.

-- Barubary

brillyfresh

04-29-2003, 01:53 AM

On 2003-04-27 14:03, kagero wrote:
Im sorry, but dont make me laugh, if any system is more hacked its GameCube Verion!! Trust me on this one, it doesnt matter which system you play it on, they always find a way. but yes i agree, just enjoy the game your way and avoid the bs....GC version over 1000 hours just switched to XBox, more people to play with it seems, and new faces not just same people in every loby every night. XBOX hacked!!! They all are. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

actually, if any system is more hacked, that would be the PC version, being on PC makes it way too easy to write code for ... and yes, i am sticking to GC, because i can tolerate duped items over instant level 200 characters

CrashCat

04-29-2003, 06:32 AM

Ugh. So why do I have to have a Gamertag to play this POS again? And what are the real odds of some guy with a hacked JP PSO affecting me, the normal schmuck with a US PSO and and XBox?

I mean, saying 'PSOX is hacked, ayep' is a lot different from saying 'Dreamcast PSO is hacked, where you'll see everyone has hacked items, hacked spells, death resta, NOL-causing powers and everything else you can think of'.

All I want to know is what's the extent of the damage, i.e. how will it affect me? Diablo 2 is 'hacked' also and it doesn't bother me, because a bunch of morons with duped items don't really affect me all that much unless I decide to be an eBay seller. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

MisoSoup

04-30-2003, 11:33 AM

I know people who without a modchip have hacked their xboxes to play halo online.

You didn't have to hack your XBox to play Halo online. All you had to do was download the tunneling software, which was easily available on Gamespy, onto your pc, and hook up your XBox through a hub. It just made your XBox think that you were playing a system link game. It had nothing to do with "hacking".

I don't see why everyone's fussing so much. Yes there's hacked items, and lot of the people I meet online won't have anything to do with them. A level 200 walking into a game is basically begging to be reported and banned. As it is, I play the XBox version because I can play with my friends and I don't have to fork out 80 bucks to talk to them (and no, software keyboard is NOT adequate). Hell, if Sega had a keyboard ready for GCN PSO like they promised, I'd stll be playing on my beloved GC version.

Eventually a new game will come out for the mod-chip people to hack, the newbs who are taking all these hacked items with big smiles on their faces will get bored with the game when they have the strongest weapons at lvl 60, the people hacking their characters to lvl 200 will get bored with that after a week, and the majority of the people left will be the legit people who truly love this game and just wanna play.

Raist

04-30-2003, 11:53 AM

On 2003-04-30 09:33, MisoSoup wrote:
the newbs who are taking all these hacked items with big smiles on their faces will get bored with the game when they have the strongest weapons at lvl 60, the people hacking their characters to lvl 200 will get bored with that after a week, and the majority of the people left will be the legit people who truly love this game and just wanna play.

Just like on Ver. 2...oh wait.

MisoSoup

04-30-2003, 02:14 PM

Also, just like version 2, Sega's running the whole show and could care less how their online servers are running. Oh wait, that's not right.

Say what you will about Microsoft, they have a pretty good track record with the XBox so far concerning customer concerns and demand. People complained the controller was too big, they immediately set upon making a smaller one. People complained about the voice chat grating on their nerves, they give out coupons for free USB adapters by mail, you paying shipping, of course. The fact is MS can't afford to lose customers on their Live service, and they know this. They want to do everything in their power to maintain that service to the best of their abilities. They know how to make money, they've been making billions upon billions for years. PC OS's and applications aside, because there's not really a competition for them there, they will do what is necessary to curb exploiting and expecially hacking on their servers because in this business they have a great deal of competition, and they want to come out on top. Of course, there will always be exploiters, dupers, and hackers. Name an online game that hasn't had them. All logic says, however, that the hacking will be dealt with to a point where it will have a small enough effect to where people won't be driven from their service.

[ This Message was edited by: MisoSoup on 2003-04-30 12:15 ]

EsperFlame

05-02-2003, 10:46 AM

Unfortunately, if there's one thing we al learned from DC PSO both versions, hackers don't simply get bored when they have everything. They instead find new and amusing ways to have fun, such as NOL, CK, and PKing. Trust me, even if they have everything, Hackers still like to hang in the lobby chatting with friends just as much as we all do.

In short, X Box is truely stuck with hackers and apparently they're already massing. Lets hope GCN PSO doesn't massivly get hacked and that our only problem is duping.(Yes, GCN is hacked to a SMALL extent.....you'll note I said Massivly!) It's sorry to know that from day one, X Box PSO was hacked and that it's already in a worse condition than GCN.

At the same tho, I wanna express my happiness in those that are fully enjoying X Box PSO and I do hope that Microsoft does something about the hacking issues. I give my best wishes to all of you X Box players out there. Me I'm with my GCN for many a reason, but I think X Box is a good system. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

MisoSoup

05-02-2003, 04:06 PM

It's really not as bad as people claim. At least not from my experience, and I play an awful lot. Within weeks of the GCN PSO release, you couldn't walk into a lobby without being spammed with trade requests from people looking for duped BKBs and other ludicrously rare items. So far the worse I've seen on the XBox is the occasional mag cell going around. I have seen a couple suspicious people(such as a guy I played with who started using a Red Scorpio at lvl 62 that he supposedly traded for), but for the most part a lot of players shun the behavior, which drives a lot of people from doing it out of not wanting to be outcasted or reported. It may be worse than I've seen, who knows? One thing is for certain, and that is that it's gonna get real bad if Microsoft doesn't move quick on this.

SC2

05-02-2003, 04:33 PM

[quote]
On 2003-04-27 14:45, Nites wrote:
psox is hacked so fast mainly because of pso pc... enough said

hey hey i have never met sum1 hacked to hell ever they make up sh*t to get free stufdf and i like xbox and all but i wouldnt say YOURversion is better i hav played it many times and it is freaky and hacked to hell, everyone i met says FU*K OFF OR ILL NOL YOU! i still like xbox version though LOL
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

SC2

05-02-2003, 04:34 PM

[quote]
On 2003-04-27 14:45, Nites wrote:
psox is hacked so fast mainly because of pso pc... enough said.

AHHAHAHAHAHA wat ever

MisoSoup

05-02-2003, 06:00 PM

I have no idea what you just said, but I'd like to go on the record to say that personally I think the GCN version is the best hands down, though I play PSOX for convenience of actually being able to communicate with people.

05-03-2003, 05:14 PM

good im glad xbox is hacked...XBOX SUCKS

MisoSoup

05-04-2003, 03:37 AM

Go choke on a crayon.

raiden999

05-04-2003, 02:53 PM

On 2003-05-02 14:33, YumYum_thats_good_rappy wrote:
[quote]
On 2003-04-27 14:45, Nites wrote:
psox is hacked so fast mainly because of pso pc... enough said

hey hey i have never met sum1 hacked to hell ever they make up sh*t to get free stufdf and i like xbox and all but i wouldnt say YOURversion is better i hav played it many times and it is freaky and hacked to hell, everyone i met says FU*K OFF OR ILL NOL YOU! i still like xbox version though LOL
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Punctuation count: 1
Can people not learn to type with a little puctuation? Anyways, PSOX is hacked. PSOGC is hacked. Everyone knows the DC version is hacked. My point is that they will always be hacked, because there is always someone bored enough to do it.

BonusKun

05-04-2003, 03:41 PM

On 2003-04-27 14:00, kagero wrote:
Im sorry, but dont make me laugh, if any system is more hacked its GameCube Verion!!

Would you care to do a side by side comparasion or are you just talking out of your ass?

Aurra

05-09-2003, 04:52 PM

GC version is more hacked?

A 200 mind Sato and a Flame Garmet > every item in the game being mass produced and modified?

Wow! You're right! GC is WAY more hacked!!! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

No offense to the Xbox version, as I'm sure it's just as good technically as any of the other ones. The only thing wrong with it is the hard drive, which allows just about anyone with a PC to hack their way to victory, so to speak.

XGhostX

05-12-2003, 06:49 AM

yea.. im lvl 200 on box, w/ every item in the game, including all s-ranks and stuff you guys have never even dreamed of... Black Gear, OMFG!!!

Omni-SqwirL

05-13-2003, 12:14 PM

On 2003-05-12 04:49, XGhostX wrote:
yea.. im lvl 200 on box, w/ every item in the game, including all s-ranks and stuff you guys have never even dreamed of... Black Gear, OMFG!!!

No one cares

Sedyne

05-13-2003, 02:33 PM

On 2003-04-27 21:11, shiznitty wrote:
does that mean ppl can get noled?

The only way you could get NOLed is if someone can bypass the security code from XBL. All this code does is allow you to access the server and it ensures you have nothing illegal+codeing is normal. Now I'm pretty sure noone can do this yet because you can't log on xbxlive with your mod chip active, it detects it and throws u off. And It would be nessecary for the mod chip to be on and working to nol someone. K thx

Setekh

05-15-2003, 11:43 PM

Heh, I'd post a website to get em'
But I don't want to get banned.

05-17-2003, 08:51 AM

I play on xbox version but many of u play on the gamecube but post replies about the xbox version.
Yes the game has been hacked but not as bad as u guys are thinking and saying. They can only hack weapons right now and the weapons of choice for people are the hunter and ranger weapons. Forces are weak and in their opinion useless (of course its no true) but Forces dont get hacked as bad and only weapons are getting hacked so stop bsing about it http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cool.gif

PSOX- 74 FOnewm Kali Pinkal Nidra 200
PSOGC- 114 FOnewm Gana Pinkal Nidra 200
86 HUcast TeBe Oran dont know mag friends char

05-17-2003, 08:56 AM

and another thing i think all you hackers dont have enough balls or clits to do anything the hard way and earn your stuff so that u can really sport it but go ahead hack your way to victory and i will prevail against you lil faggot ass bitches.

all my characters were always legit and always will be.

and if u havent noticed psogc is hacked like crap so bad that i dont even know wat NOL is cause it wont be happening on xbl no time soon thank god.

Kali FOnewm level 75 Pinkal

Aurra

05-17-2003, 01:50 PM

On 2003-05-17 06:56, jt wrote:
and if u havent noticed psogc is hacked like crap so bad that i dont even know wat NOL is cause it wont be happening on xbl no time soon thank god.

Wtf talking about? How do you know NOLing won't be happening on Xbox? Just about everything else is! And GC is "hacked like crap?" So far, there are 2 confirmed hacked items floating around on GC. A 200 mind Sato and the Flame Garmet. On Xbox everything can and is being hacked.

Aurra

05-17-2003, 02:08 PM

On 2003-05-17 06:51, jt wrote:
They can only hack weapons right now and the weapons of choice for people are the hunter and ranger weapons.

You can only hack weapons eh? Here we see a picture of a FOmarl showing that she has equipped a sword called "????" (there is no item in the game called this).

http://www.webngames.com/funfiles/hackedpso7.jpg

Now we a clearer pic of what that weapon looks like: I can only describe it as a white saber version of the twin sword class (Musashi, Sange & Yasha, etc). This item does not exist either, as all Sabers have a tint to them and I know that this item isn't in the GC version (and GC and Xbox have the same items).

http://www.webngames.com/funfiles/hackedpso6.jpg

You want to say that only existing items can be hacked now? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

RubyEclipse

05-17-2003, 02:29 PM

Hm...well, If things keep up at this rate for PSOX, we may very well see the re-appearance of the F***SEGA GUN and the F***YOU TWIN. Anyone else remember those?

However, in my personal opionion, it seems dumb to me that we can argue over stuff like this. "PSOX Is more hacked!", and "Oh no its not! PSO for GC is waaay more hacked!!"

God people, give it a rest!! Play whatever version of PSO you feel like, and STOP fighting over this! PSO has been hacked, will be hacked, and will most likely always be hacked. It was like that on the dreamcast, its definetly like that on the PC, its happened on the gamecube, and its happening again the Xbox.

I don't see any use in fighting over this! But, if you want to waste your time over a pointless topic, be my guest.

So, instead of bickering over which PSO is more hacked, anyone up for a game of famitsu or challenge?

Whew..had to get that out of my system http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

polishedweasel

05-17-2003, 07:31 PM

PSOX is hacked!!!!???? I would've never thought that a system that was more computer than anything else would ever suffer such a fate! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

ZoA

05-21-2003, 06:30 PM

Ok...just stop complaining about hacks and cheating. It's bound to happen online. If you don't want to be a part of it, just play offline or quit PSO entirely! Don't come in here and complain about hAx0Rs and shyt! If you pay money for something you don't like, just dont pay anymore and maybe when you stop playing, you will stop complaining.

By the way, there are cheaters on PSO on Xbox AND Gamecube. Yeah the 2 white sabers are old. I had that on Dreamcast and its easy to do with any weapon. On Gamecube there are hack weapons and mags just like X box. Like those 200 mind Satos, and the Beserker Beam. GEZ!!! HAVENT ANY OF YOU NOTICED ANY ITEMS ON PSO THAT AREN'T NORMAL?!?!?!
Sometimes you all get on my nerves...

...Well, thats all...
Like the rest of you, I had to let out some steam.

hououtate

05-23-2003, 09:32 AM

wow...

75% of the people who posted here are morons...

Idiots...

argh

(Aurra knows what he/she is talking about. No problems with him)

[ This Message was edited by: hououtate on 2003-05-23 07:36 ]

Sapota

05-27-2003, 01:28 PM

Interesting snippet from Bungie's "job opportunities" section, in an article about employment aspirations as a "Game Designer":

..."the Player,": a schizophrenic multi-headed hydra that demands achievement without effort, constant reward and total entertainment...

That's such a beautiful little summary of why people are hacking these games.

I watch my 6-year old nephew play Mario on his GBAdv, and it's fascinating to see him get frustrated. A kindergartner simply doesn't have the mental patience to be "entertained" by the more difficult challenges, and he lacks the social capacity to step back, think about the frustration, and then go back to having fun. My sister sets a timer for 20 minutes, forcing him to take a break or stop completely if he gets too worked up.

How many times have we all gotten controller-throwing-furious at an "unfair kill" in a game? I guess the difference boils down to simple maturity level. Some folks just don't have fun with challenges, and demand a shortcut. Others prefer a long-lasting multi-player adventure with hard-fought battles, some of which are won and some which are lost, and occasionally the spoils of war are granted to the fighters (keyword there, "occassionally"... it means "rare"...)

Fortunately, Sega realized this from the very beginning with PSO, and designed their game to support these phenomena. There are PLENTY of ships and rooms to support ALL of the playing styles. Communities of gamers have always found niches or areas to gather with similar playing philosophies: I never seem to have trouble finding games with folks who just want to play for fun and leveling and community. So far, on the servers I frequent, any folks with obvious dupes have been very friendly if asked to not use them when they're interfering with my game.

Example: a level 40 ranger hopped into a VHard game, sporting a unique mag and a Heaven Punisher (been seeing a LOT of those lately...), wasting nearly all of the baddies per room with a couple shots. The other three players (me included) simply said, "hey, neat gun, but we're having trouble getting our hits in". So he stopped.

Also, he was smart enough to watch and change his style to support the group. Since he was no longer dealing out the the massive damage, he contributed frequent restas/shiftas/debands/antis to the group, and he probably did MORE damage with a plain old Gatling+30% dark (loaned by me) during the final boss fight.

So basically: duping may be happening, but the game servers are big enough to find groups of like-minded people for like-minded gaming.

Another interesting phenomenon is about to take place in a few more weeks, once the monthly charges start kicking in. At that point, the kids will get bored with their dupes, and realize that their shortcut-style of gaming isn't giving them $9/month of enjoyment. The rest of us can simply continue chatting with friends, beating back the Ragolian baddies, and OCCASSIONALY happening upon a fun or powerful rare item.

Zb2k

06-01-2003, 09:14 PM

whats with this proof of sonic team item and will u get banned if u have one (i dont)

eXo

06-02-2003, 01:52 AM

On 2003-04-27 14:00, kagero wrote:
to the one who said that settles it, im stickin to GC. Im sorry, but dont make me laugh, if any system is more hacked its GameCube Verion!! Trust me on this one, it doesnt matter which system you play it on, they always find a way. but yes i agree, just enjoy the game your way and avoid the bs....GC version over 1000 hours just switched to XBox, more people to play with it seems, and new faces not just same people in every loby every night. XBOX hacked!!! They all are. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Not trying to point this out Kagero but isnt it only common sense that the Gamecube, would be more hacked out then the X-Box? I mean come on im not biasedbut lets keep it real,saying that the gamecube is hacked more then the X-Box versions is really a very cheap defense, to anyone who is still intent on trying to put down any version of any game..

THE BOTTOMLINE : Is that if P.S.O -X had more hacks then P.S.O Gamecube it would be really sad because X-Box owners have to pay more overall already then Gamecube owners, and PSO-X has not even been out close to half of the time P.S.O - Gamecube has http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

So to try and justify the situation by saying one, is more hacked then the other is just plain out a flat,dry,LAME excuse dont you think so ???

TeK-Delorean

06-06-2003, 01:09 AM

instead of fighting over which version is hacked more and how lazy and incompetent Sonic team is for letting this continue, why don't we all focus our energies into fighting the wusses who are scared to work for their rares? There should be more organized LEGIT clans who are willing to fight hacking and duping instead of complaining all day on a message board. I'm sot saying run to sega everytime you see someone with a Heaven's punisher or a Sealed J sword, but what exactly is being accomplished by arguing which version is hacked more? Instead of Xbox pso gamers vs GC pso gamers it should be Legit, Hard working Rare Earners putting in the game hours VS the pussy, lazy ass wannabe elite hacker/dupers.

Chewie

06-08-2003, 11:06 PM

Who cares about dupes? I really don't. Don't care about the hacked items either. I for one am glad for some of them. And before you attack me, I don't DO either. I played the hell out of the DC version and still do, and I play the hell out of my Xbox version, and I haven't found anything worth a damn. But low and behold someone drops a few items the other day and I am having fun again. I won't trade them, won't sell them, and I don't use them for anything but fun. And I am the bad guy? Not hardly. The only time I think dupes are bad if you dupe materials and slots. Other than that, who is it hurting? But hey, if you think someone losing their Live Account is cool over a video game that isn't hurting anyone, go for it.

Genjiguy

06-09-2003, 10:50 PM

This whole XBox is hacked deal is just so childish. I find it amazing how some people can say that PSO is hacked on the XBox and not on the GC. We all know that both systems are hacked get over it!! If you really are so scared about hackers then I suggest you either find another game or do as someone else suggested, stay w/ your friends. Almost every game that has ever been released has been hacked one way or another. All gamers should know this by now, GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES. I have nothing against the GC owners who play PSO. I personally play it on XBox because of the voice chat and all broadband features of XBox Live. I hope all the gamers out there can see beyond their differences and stop arguing over what system is better......

Solstis

06-10-2003, 03:05 PM

Now, I am one of those idiots who trades for an item, realizes that there is a HIGH possibility of it being hacked, and then shrugs his shoulders. I've never traded for something that I couldn't have achieved myself (except for that stupid "chu chu" mag, I must have been sleepy). Anyway, I'm going to stop playing Epdote, which seems to be getting worse than Apatite. I do agree that those who hack or dupe quickly run out of interest in the game, I've gone through that during my DC days. The only reason I duped ANYTHING was because of frequent PKers and thieves. I doubt PSOX will go that far, but what can Microsoft do? If they delete every hacked item, what about people who didn't realize what they had was hacked, and are now left with nothing? Is anyone reading this?

S_n_i_p_e_r

06-10-2003, 06:26 PM

PSO is hacked on all systems. And yes the NOLing has hit X-BOX and GC. Infact, I was in a lobby not too long ago and some guy came out of a room where 2 guys stole his items and turned him into NOL 001, sucks for him because he was a level 90. I know a couple of people that game on the GC from online and they have witnessed people being NOLed, and Items being stolen. No system is any better then the other when it comes to the hacking, because it appears on all systems. Just less or more people know how to do it on the wide selection.

Getintothegame

06-13-2003, 08:09 PM

NOLing is NOT possible. Barubary6 has tried it, it is impossible.

Dont lie please.

[ This Message was edited by: Getintothegame on 2003-06-15 01:24 ]

Lman90245

06-15-2003, 03:48 PM

>=D I wonder if its possible to make a flying hack... I WANT TO FLY!!!

AzNrarehunter

06-16-2003, 02:27 AM

IT HAS NOW BECOME BULL WITH PSOX HACKED, I MOSTLY STAYED AWAY FROM THOSE ITEMS. THE FOLLING THINGS THAT ARE HACKED AND NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FOUND ON PSOX. TIL LATER IN DA YEAR.

parasite cell d
blue-black stone
heart key
magic water
berill photon
any mag cells(ONLY HOLIDAY'S IS WHEN U CAN GET IT, BUT NOW SINCE THE GAME'S RELEASE, NO WAY!!!!)
flame garment
demonic fork
amore rose(IT'S SUPPOSE TO BE ONLY GAMECUBE)
panther claw
nei claw
sonic knuckle
rocket punch
all s-ranks (HOW DA hell DID THEY DO THAT EVEN WHEN ALL C-MODE STAGES AREN'T EVEN OUT)
marina's bag(THERE'S NO damn WAY)
black king bar
snow queen
ragol ring(COMPLETE BULL I EVEN SAW IT IN THE MENU)
AL RAPPY'S (NO WAY NO WAY THAT CAN EXIST, I EVEN TRIED ONE)

give me your reactions

Auro

06-20-2003, 10:44 PM

Yeah, Xbox has gone insane. I don't trade with anyone.
The S-ranks being traded on sites like gamefaqs is just stupid.

Phoenix3v3

06-20-2003, 11:03 PM

On 2003-06-01 19:14, Zb2k wrote:
whats with this proof of sonic team item and will u get banned if u have one (i dont)

The proof of sonic team is used by people to steal your crap. What they do is make their character named sonic team or something and what they do is lemme check your items and they'll go you got hacked crap blah blah drop them or Ill ban your account. Really cold way to get rares.

S_n_i_p_e_r

06-24-2003, 08:58 PM

On 2003-06-13 18:09, Getintothegame wrote:
NOLing is NOT possible. Barubary6 has tried it, it is impossible.

Dont lie please.

[ This Message was edited by: Getintothegame on 2003-06-15 01:24 ]

Your ignorant remark shows your true stupidity. Just because Barubary6 has tried it and couldn't do it, does not mean that it is in fact IMPOSSIBLE. I have witnessed a person being NOLed, and I have herd actual witness remaks from my friends about people being NOLed. And please don't call me a liar, I know what I saw.

Shadow_Child_John

06-26-2003, 08:32 AM

Actually,to my current knowledge other players aren't able to NOL as of yet.The reason some people are dropping back to low levels is a rare glitch with challenge mode,which for some reason occasionally over rights your level and equipment with that used while playing in challenge mode.I'm not saying that players aren't able to NOL,I'm just giving another explination to the problem.

As for the massively duped items,is it really THAT bad? I for one hate that items were massively duped and spread online,but I also openly admit that without certain rares being duped and spread about online,I would probably have never seen some of my currently favorite weapons or mags,let alone actually have owned them.And,why do we all make dupers out to be the bad guys?Personally I think it's kind of nice to hear a person say they got corrupted and then see a duper drop all of these rares for them at no charge or for no reason,other than to just be a nice person.

AzNrarehunter

06-28-2003, 03:52 AM

everywhere i go, there is a person using either sega system with 195 pow. and a j-sword at a very low lvl. HELL even a lvl 1 slaps a basic frame and put 4 addslots and make it 4 and slap al rappys to boost to 1000 atp immediately. like this = super hacker. legitly, i use a nidra with 145 pow and 3 god/powers to use a sealed j-sword at lvl 40. but at lvl 1, complete bull. which makes the j-sword the gayest weapon to use, making 800 damage at lvl 20. i carry those damn weapons in my bank and i use them once in a while or try my best to trade them away, but each and every single one say " o i got that already. so i'll wait for sonic team to find me online and show them my stuff for them to dump and explain the situation. and i will even do that. so normal mode is now a very easy mode. one person i played with uses a master system and a brionic and says he doesn't even want to use that j-sword. one swing and bye bye. they even freaking use it on battle mode and being killed by a fucking kid. fuck no. xbox live will be hack and cheat free as promised. i didn't pay 50 and 10 per year/month. if the game goes to the point that there pkers in a regular game. then i will damn well quit the game and don't exist in this forum.

Cromlea-Tear

06-28-2003, 11:20 PM

FOMFOMOFMGOFMGOFMGOFMOFMGOFMGFOMGOFMGOFMGFOGMFOMGO FMFOMGFOMGOFMGFOGM PSOX has been hax0red? OMG lies.

It's common sense that this game was going to be hacked as has all the others. So it's not new to me at all.

Shadow_Child_John

06-29-2003, 12:32 PM

Exactly.And I hate to inform you of this AzNrarehunter,but NONE of the PSO's are ever going to be completely hack proof.(certainly not PSOX)There is NO security or lock that will ever manage to keep all hackers out.There have always been cheaters and hackers of games and there always will be.Microsoft might make it harder to hack and such,but it won't ever be full proof.

The sad truth is that every game gets hacked and cheated in to a certain degree.And a game as interactive as PSO just seems bound to attract more than most others...It's just an aspect of the gaming world we'll have to get used to.Just try not to let it ruin your fun,because getting pissed at a game,defeats it's purpose.

Nei3rd

06-29-2003, 04:38 PM

Here's a cute little story, a freind of mine met some hacker guy and he gave her a BLUE MERGE. But instead the dip spelled BLUE BULE. Now she's got a BULE MERGE! That's something. I couldn't stop laughing at this. Man, hackers sure are funny people!

ChokingVictim

06-30-2003, 01:05 PM

the 'BULE MERGE' spelling error is sega's fault... NOT a hacked item...
i play on psox...i've found the amp of blue and the blue barrier on my own...guess what? when you combine the 2, someone didn't use spellcheck, because i have a BULE MERGE in my bank right now i know for a fact is 100% legit... YELLOW MERGE is spelled right... and i need another red barrier to check the red merge...

hell i didn't even notice the misspelling till i had the thing for a bout a week

Davion

07-02-2003, 11:17 AM

On 2003-05-17 12:08, Aurra wrote:

http://www.webngames.com/funfiles/hackedpso6.jpg

I'm pretty sure that's a hoax, but I could be wrong.

[ This Message was edited by: Davion on 2003-07-02 09:18 ]

Aunt_Betty

07-02-2003, 04:42 PM

more likly. its just edited in paintshop pro.

parabolee

07-06-2003, 08:12 PM

Anyone want to play in a legit community?

XBOX and GC

http://www.pso-karma.co.uk

Ps. We are based in US just use .co.uk becuase it's cheaper and the creator is from England.

Solidus_Snake

07-06-2003, 09:16 PM

Im new to thi site as i just got signed up today and got well into this thread before i decided to post since i myself am an xbox player. So far the only means of hacking/duping that i have seen is through action replay and thats item duping and level hacking(It is really sad to see a level 200 not know how to fight dark falz and get killed!!), online duping by talking to two shops at one time then doing other stuff(which has been neutralized by an xbox update), and im not sure if this is called cheating as it is a glitch often referred to as the boss glitch. What happens is it allows you to fight the same boss multiple times in the same game. One person stays in town while the others go kill the boss and when it shows the boss screaming after the final hit the people who killed it unplug the ethernet cable from their xbox and after they see the experience gained show up in purple they plug it back in then press start then rejoin that same game. And depending on how long the person feels like staying they can kill the boss many many many times.