Episode III is PSO Card Battle: Pics & Info Inside

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-05 15:12, satoshi1 wrote:
Whoa, I'm confused now, is that clock in the upper right hand corner based on the cube's internal clock, or is it based on the .beat system still? It's got a colon (:) in it, separating hours and minutes.. Plus it's in 24-hour time. Do they even have the .beat system anymore?



I jp times.

Nomore beat time.

[ok-hybrid]

- Are mags still in the game?

yeah, but not on the same way as ep2, you dont need to feed them etc, thet are just another card that you can find and equip.

- Are techs still in the game?

yes...just another card.

- So in the lobby and Pionner 2 area you have a self created character but in battle your charcters looks changes to one of the dark or hero characters already premade?

yes, so you can have the same 4 characters fighting each other.

- How addicting is this?

After playing for over a week, I am bored to death of it, but then card games have never been my cup of tea. Its such slow going, and the strategic element seems minimal to me, especially when most wins are determined over wether the GC randomly rolls you some good numbers. I dont think skill comes into play at all, its all about luck.

- Finally, what is the exploring aspect like (if its still being used)?

not exploring what so-ever in this version.

Thanks in advance.
Skett Namevah

NP

[Da_Jue]

the JP time need for the tournament ^__^ eheheh
but its good to meet other palyers that have a different time

[AndyPandy]

Just wondering if Barubary will be getting this?....would be interesting to ask him if its still as poorly programmed as EP 1 & 2 in terms of exploits, character corruption etc etc


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[-STE-]

On 2003-08-06 01:13, AndyPandy wrote:
Just wondering if Barubary will be getting this?....would be interesting to ask him if its still as poorly programmed as EP 1 & 2 in terms of exploits, character corruption etc etc


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I have like 60 hours of playing i never frezzed never dc.
And game dont save when you join team it save only when you start a game and when you finish it.



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[Da_Jue]

or make your cards and trade cards

[-STE-]

Today we uploaded 3 movies

http://www.phantasystaronline.it/ep3movie.html

First is how to trade card with "pc" on Pioneer 2.
( you cant exchange a card if you have only 1 of it , you cant exchange hight rank cards)

Others 2 is movies of cards heroside and darkside.

[AndyPandy]

On 2003-08-06 01:41, -STE- wrote:

On 2003-08-06 01:13, AndyPandy wrote:
Just wondering if Barubary will be getting this?....would be interesting to ask him if its still as poorly programmed as EP 1 & 2 in terms of exploits, character corruption etc etc


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I have like 60 hours of playing i never frezzed never dc.
And game dont save when you join team it save only when you start a game and when you finish it.



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Ok thats good to know...things are looking promissing then.

[Malkavian]

well that tears it I am getting the japanese version I cannot wait any longer, Oh and does any one know if it works on the Freeloader?

Freeloader may have problems with newer games. Action Replay can fix the problems using codes, like in F-Zero GX. Also remember that to use same Hunter License in Episode 1&2 and Episode 3 both must be same region.

[TheSighOfAGod]

I wouldn't worry about this game if I were you.
1. The graphics are going to be improved, if they weren't the game would be closer to being relesed.
2. Yu-gi-oh isn't that bad, nor is Pokemon's TCG. They require strategy. I prefer action, but cards aren't bad.
3. Chances are, PSO 1 & 2 will be included.
4. This is the important part. PSO Episode 1 & 2 will still be online, as Ep3's lobbies will be the same ones. If it's not included, turn off, switch to it's disk, and turn on again. And ST is still adding stuff to Ep 1 & 2. Ep2 C-mode and a Ruins retrieval quest (HARD I bet) are examples.
5. Rumors say, a new PS will be released for some console, it has nothing to do with PSO. If Ep3 sells low, or suck obviously enough for ST to notice, this new game will be action.
6. Think of Ep3. It's not bad. Why? Cel-shaded Ep3 is bad.

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[Nambrosia]

On 2003-08-06 12:43, TheSighOfAGod wrote:
5. Rumors say, a new PS will be released for some console, it has nothing to do with PSO. If Ep3 sells low, or suck obviously enough for ST to notice, this new game will be action.
[ This Message was edited by: TheSighOfAGod on 2003-08-06 12:47 ]


Hm? That rumor? I believe it refered to the new Phantasy Star as being like the old ones.. i.e. regular turn-base RPG.

[satoshi1]

On 2003-08-06 12:43, TheSighOfAGod wrote:
3. Chances are, PSO 1 & 2 will be included.


What?? Who said that? Ep3 is a stand-alone game. If you want Ep1&2, go buy it. The factors that relate Ep3 and Ep1&2 are the story, the Ep1&2 lobbies accessable on Ep3, and the carry-over of the hunter's license.

[LollipopLolita]

We tried out the game tonight and wa sin a 2 vs 2 battle with STE. That was fun even though I didn't know what I was doing half the time, but eventually learned. Thanks STE!

[Da_Jue]

congratulations lol : )

[LollipopLolita]

da_jue, later we can play too! i saw you in lobby!

[Da_Jue]

http://www.phantasystaronline.it/episode3/PSO-it_meet_PSOW.jpg

eheheheeh good : )



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[Da_Jue]

On 2003-08-07 03:42, LollipopLolita wrote:
da_jue, later we can play too! i saw you in lobby!


I want to play with you too ^__^, today when you connect, I've make a tournament lol, but STE have to come to play with you ; )

[LollipopLolita]

oh that's so sweet!!!

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-07 03:34, LollipopLolita wrote:
We tried out the game tonight and wa sin a 2 vs 2 battle with STE. That was fun even though I didn't know what I was doing half the time, but eventually learned. Thanks STE!



hehehehe game is hard first time after you can understand it and play without problems only need some days of studing.

I killed Erupt sorry : (( http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Para]

ahh atleast u guys are dukin it out...make a video of it! phantasystaronline.it vs pso-world.com !

[therealAERO]

Grrr you people are all so lucky that you have it, and it sounds like a really fun game I can't wait to get it ^_^

[LollipopLolita]

btw guys we added just about 200 screenshots last night, so you guys might want to check em out. we also reorganized it so it's not one big huge thing. enjoy!

[Kensuke]

Hey, where are you people playing on the trial? I can't find anyone who speaks english except for my friend who got the trial with me. We need people to teach us the rules of the game, and people to play with. My character's name is Sylvia and I look similar to the girl on the cover of the game....and my avatar (actualy, my character is a remake of my Ep1&2 char)

--Kensuke

[LollipopLolita]

http://www.pso-world.com/article.php?sid=1016&mode=&order=0&thold=0

we just got done tonight though, played for quite a bit.

[-STE-]

Giulietta block 10 we can meet all on that block ^ ^.

[-STE-]

Another free card for trial user on final version

"Beat"
HP-/AP+5/TP-/MV-
Cost 2
Attack action
It attacks to a simple substance.
* EX value reduction
A dice is shaken at the time of an attack and, only in the number of the eyes which came out, an aggressor's EX value decreases.

http://www.sonicteam.com/pso3/image/pso3_card07.jpg http://www.sonicteam.com/pso3/image/pso3_card05.jpg

[-STE-]

http://www.sonicteam.com/pso3/frdload.html

They add new wallpaper on site too.

[Nai_Calus]

Yay, PSOW put them up. My computer doesn't like unzipping the ones from ST's site.

...And that's not a FOmarl. >_>; Poor what's-his-face. He looks even more like a girl than most FOmars. O_o;

[Da_Jue]

the fomarl is very cute XD

[AndyPandy]

hehe I just ordered this today, should get my trial middle of next week....yippee.

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-08 05:40, Ian-KunX wrote:
Yay, PSOW put them up. My computer doesn't like unzipping the ones from ST's site.

...And that's not a FOmarl. >_>; Poor what's-his-face. He looks even more like a girl than most FOmars. O_o;



I cant unzip too.
Yup fomar look like a girl eheheheh.

[marcus_com]

wish i could afford to buy a copy, http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif Ah well, I'll have to settle with the images and movies I see on phantasystaronline.it and the info my friend who has the game gives me. (I dont wanna settle with the above, I want the friggin game)

[Raven5_1]

maybe sombody already awnsered this but the chacter you create it can be used in an actual duel cant it? if you can only use the char on pioner2 and the lobby the game really loses something .

[satoshi1]

On 2003-08-08 09:45, Raven5_1 wrote:
maybe sombody already awnsered this but the chacter you create it can be used in an actual duel cant it? if you can only use the char on pioner2 and the lobby the game really loses something .



You control an NPC in battle. But seeing as how this is only the trial version, they may (hopefully) change.

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-08 09:45, Raven5_1 wrote:
maybe sombody already awnsered this but the chacter you create it can be used in an actual duel cant it? if you can only use the char on pioner2 and the lobby the game really loses something .



Only p2 and lobby on trial on final version dont know.

I made a page with all character name and weapon for dark:
http://www.phantasystaronline.it/ep3characters.html

[philip]

I have one question!

Is it just battle or can you move around like in Ep1 and 2?

[-STE-]

battle

[Da_Jue]

this night Ive seen Lollipop (Italy time), but he disconnect when I coming in lobby lol XD w



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[-DangerousDj-]

Some one tell me how to play the download quest on the trial please !
I see the download file (in multi mode) when I choose area offline but it wont let me play it (2 0f the player spaces are greyed out and one has com player in it but I can only change one of them ???).

[LollipopLolita]

On 2003-08-08 23:52, Da_Jue wrote:
this night Ive seen Lollipop (Italy time), but he disconnect when I coming in lobby lol XD w


sorry kaku, i was taking some shots for the guides >_<

[LollipopLolita]

okay a bunch of new things for you guys!!!

http://www.pso-world.com/article.php?sid=1018&mode=&order=0&thold=0

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-09 02:34, -DangerousDj- wrote:
Some one tell me how to play the download quest on the trial please !
I see the download file (in multi mode) when I choose area offline but it wont let me play it (2 0f the player spaces are greyed out and one has com player in it but I can only change one of them ???).



Cant too

[Logical2u]

The battle mode is confusing me!
Nooo!

[LollipopLolita]

trust me, you'll be more confused if you played it in jp not knowing what's happening

[LollipopLolita]

i think it's funny that sonic team posted news on their ep 3 page just because they now make the principal have a fat belly. it now comes out!

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/body?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sonicteam.com%2Fpso3% 2Fphoto%2F00.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2

there is also already a jp player that is clvl 40 after 150 hours of play.

[Aunt_Betty]

wow i still would like to no the story line

[Nambrosia]

Hmm.. has anyone determined what MAG cards do yet?

[LollipopLolita]

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1282

[Castoth]

This game still has yet to convince me to want to buy it. Seems too slow, no exploration, confusing system and so on. If it is not able to convince me still after a month of it being released in Japan and hearing of the full system, then think I will just skip this title.

[satoshi1]

On 2003-08-09 20:05, Castoth wrote:
This game still has yet to convince me to want to buy it. Seems too slow, no exploration, confusing system and so on. If it is not able to convince me still after a month of it being released in Japan and hearing of the full system, then think I will just skip this title.



Confusing system? Have you even played the game yet? You can't call it confusing without trying it.

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-09 17:38, Nambrosia wrote:
Hmm.. has anyone determined what MAG cards do yet?



Mag cards give you more AP TP ecc based on theyr level. I have Sato Pian Pitri Genesis mag and others all have different stats.

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-09 20:05, Castoth wrote:
This game still has yet to convince me to want to buy it. Seems too slow, no exploration, confusing system and so on. If it is not able to convince me still after a month of it being released in Japan and hearing of the full system, then think I will just skip this title.



Yes game is slow, very slow compared to others PSO.
No exploration right final version have a story for offline mode but based only on battle ummm strange we must wait and see.
No confusing system game is easy online little hard now because is all in jp.

Now i have like 100 hours on trial.

I can tell game is very strange i have lot of rare cards like dark flow, tsumikiri j sword, dark bridge, yamigarasu eccc but they are completely useless is very hard to equip it you must do big number with dice and after you have it equipped is good only is you fight against arkz a little, is better have a 3 normal partisan equipped than a dark flow or jsword .... very strange
and last thing about win a battle
60% is lucky (have a good dice if com do 6 with it and you 1 ....)
39% is strategy
1% is good cards

[Zolpner]

Hey, has anyone translated the new character intro yet??

thx

[LollipopLolita]

On 2003-08-09 23:34, -STE- wrote:

On 2003-08-09 17:38, Nambrosia wrote:
Hmm.. has anyone determined what MAG cards do yet?



Mag cards give you more AP TP ecc based on theyr level. I have Sato Pian Pitri Genesis mag and others all have different stats.


nambrosia check out the link i gave you, there's a picture example there


On 2003-08-09 23:43, -STE- wrote:
Yes game is slow, very slow compared to others PSO.
No exploration right final version have a story for offline mode but based only on battle ummm strange we must wait and see.
No confusing system game is easy online little hard now because is all in jp.

I agree with some of what ste has said. and he and i were talking about this actually.

the gameplay itself and battle isn't confusing, i figured out everything quickly after 3/4 battles. it's just so slow, i was telling ste we need a rappy tic tac toe system while we wait for the other turn. and the offline mode currently only has 2 battles but yeah it looks like a battle after battle storyline.

But we can't really say much since it's only trial, and everything is in Japanese...

Both of us agree though that the one thing to worry about is playability.

[Zolpner]

Maybe they'll add in an option for multi-player which sets a turn time limit in (like Heros of Might and Magic III)
e.g Turn time limit 5 mins ,and you can change it to what you want.. (of course with an unlimited one)
maybe......,.................,...

[LollipopLolita]

well there are some options already. check them out

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1276

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-10 03:10, Zolpner wrote:
Maybe they'll add in an option for multi-player which sets a turn time limit in (like Heros of Might and Magic III)
e.g Turn time limit 5 mins ,and you can change it to what you want.. (of course with an unlimited one)
maybe......,.................,...



Already is a time limit but useless.

About game i have 200 win near only 18 lose
5 lost i did with trying things offline
and all other i lose against friends online
never lose against com
com did always same strategy very sad offline is too easy for play


For who want buy this game in future i hope he like cards games because if you dont like this kind of games maybe you play it for 2 3 weeks and after you leave.

[LollipopLolita]

com did always same strategy very sad offline is too easy for play

the arkz coms keep running away. maybe they will improve ai, or if your clv is higher you will fight fight higher clv com. maaaybe

[Rain_1]

I have a question that might have been answered before (even tho i couldn't find it)...

Episode III is a AddOn to Episode I+II (like ver2 was to ver1) or it's a stand alone game?

what that question really means is: i will be able to go oldschool melee style on PSO Ep. III or i'm stuck with card game only?

The faq doesn't really answer that, just tells me that i can join Ep I+II servers and talk to people... wonder if the final version will let me play with them (thus, let me play a regular game, instead of a card one)...

yeah, that's kinda confuse... hope i made my self understandable.. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Malkavian]

I guess we'll have to switch discs for play Episode 1&2, ver1 and ver2 were very similar and compatible. Episode 3 is a totally different thing but uses the same servers lobbies to keep the community united.
Also I think weshouldn't assume much things from the trial. Episode 1&2 trial was nothing compared to final version. If STE has already put 100 hours on the trial the final may be easily 500 hours to get most of things done and seen.

[Da_Jue]

I've found an option about episode I&II lol, that mean you can play epI&II too at fianl version of epIII

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-10 12:01, Malkavian wrote:
I guess we'll have to switch discs for play Episode 1&2, ver1 and ver2 were very similar and compatible. Episode 3 is a totally different thing but uses the same servers lobbies to keep the community united.
Also I think weshouldn't assume much things from the trial. Episode 1&2 trial was nothing compared to final version. If STE has already put 100 hours on the trial the final may be easily 500 hours to get most of things done and seen.



Yes you have to switch disc for sure, now you can use Episode I & II disc with serial of episode III and you log in on trial server with episode I & II characters. You cant go on ep III lobby and you use a new save file not the same of episode III, you cant see ep 3 games and you can play only ep 1 2 game.

Im sure when final version come out for play with episode I & II you must change disc and use another memory file.

[AndyPandy]

Can someone tell me when the final day is for using the Trial Online.

Cheers.

[-STE-]

31 august

[AndyPandy]

Cool, should have a couple of weeks to check it out.

Oh, this is on the front page...I missed it http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



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[LollipopLolita]

heh it's on ep 3 page too!

[Da_Jue]

come come XD, Lollipop, can you said me at what time (JP SERVER TIME) you are online? I would play with you ehe

[4SwordFolken]

So, I have looked through this thread, but I didn't see any information on if you can play on a dial-up connection. Any news on the subject would be great.

[LollipopLolita]

okay kaku, ste, wanna try to meet up tonight? you guys give me a time!

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-11 12:11, LollipopLolita wrote:
okay kaku, ste, wanna try to meet up tonight? you guys give me a time!



I dont know what mean night for you ^ ^

[LollipopLolita]

okay! we need international timezone converter here now. but i will icq you

[Shima]

[OT] I often use http://www.csgnetwork.com/timezncvt.html for according the meet time for my trades whit people living in the USA http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif, hope this help.
P.s.ciau kaku ciau STE



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[-STE-]

hehehe ciao

We uploaded battle of this morning i lose : ((((
heeheheh

parte 1 del filmato = 23 mega
http://www.phantasystaronline.it/episode3/filmati/online/PSOepIII_PSOit&PSOw_01.mpg
parte 2 del filmato = 19 mega
http://www.phantasystaronline.it/episode3/filmati/online/PSOepIII_PSOit&PSOw_02.mpg
parte 1 del filmato = 25 mega
http://www.phantasystaronline.it/episode3/filmati/online/PSOepIII_PSOit&PSOw_03.mpg
parte 1 del filmato = 24 mega
http://www.phantasystaronline.it/episode3/filmati/online/PSOepIII_PSOit&PSOw_04.mpg

[Da_Jue]

eheheh ciau Mitsu

we are lucky today w, STE have bad dice, if he get good dice, he can use strong cards w

[LollipopLolita]

i know what is up. yesterday i played 6 games. out of the 6, 3 games i was in, my team mates died. meehhh

[Saladwood]

Win your very own copy of the trial!

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=62797&forum=1&4

[Kadou]

Just curious, does anywhere know where I can find PSO Ep. III images or fanart. I mean two-dimensional, anime styled official or fan artwork. Also, if anyone knows, what is the Episode III storyline?

[Zeebo]

guess not

[Zolpner]

personally I think the storyline is about some kind of strife between the peoples of Pioneer 2, a war(of sorts) breaks out, and they split off and build new Pioneers as bases.
Thats just what I think from what I know.



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[AndyPandy]

I just tracked my Episode 3....I will get it tomorrow..yipee http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif




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[AndyPandy]

ok, ok, I have a question...on topic http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif ....you know the "special" card you get if you play the trial? Well I was thinking, ......is this card unique, ie; only the people who played the trial get it. Hmm, what im trying to say here is can you trade it or is it only for the trial people.

[LollipopLolita]

Only the people who played the trial and the full release on the same memory card can get the present card. No one else gets it.

[Soundboz]

what ship do you guys play on ?_?

[LollipopLolita]

g10.

[Soundboz]

does anyone wanna meet 2nite?

[AndyPandy]

Yay I got my copy.



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[Aunt_Betty]

how do u uys et the trial if u dont live in japan?

[AndyPandy]

got it through play-asia.com .....got mine in 4 days from HK to UK....pretty cool.

Got stung for import duty though...danm £26...gah....dumbasses put the full value on the box.

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[Da_Jue]

awwww high price O_o w

[Kadou]

On 2003-08-12 19:16, Kadou wrote:
Just curious, does anyone know where I can find PSO Ep. III images or fanart. I mean two-dimensional, anime styled official or fan artwork/illustrations. Also, if anyone knows, what is the Episode III storyline?

[LollipopLolita]

kadou there hasn't been any yet and no one knows the sotryline yet since offline play is limited and we don't understand JP

we meet up with ste and ah king the other night for a good game!

http://dynamic2b.gamespy.com/~psoworld/images/screenshots/08-15-03g/01.jpg

http://dynamic2b.gamespy.com/~psoworld/images/screenshots/08-15-03l/12.jpg

http://dynamic2b.gamespy.com/~psoworld/images/screenshots/08-15-03l/14.jpg

http://dynamic2b.gamespy.com/~psoworld/images/screenshots/08-15-03l/19.jpg
and soccer is worse than ever!

[Da_Jue]

lol its fun ^__^ I want to play too night ehehe

[LollipopLolita]

kaku you want to play again with 19 hildebear?

[Raven5_1]

i'm sorry but episode 3 has yet to impress me.

i could probaly come round to the card based game but the fact you create a char that is only for eye candy smacks of sonic team trying to pull a fast one and rubs me the wrong way.

one of the main draws of pso is creting a char unique to you and fighting through levels building that char up. episode 3 has none of that.

[Kriz]

......

I dont know what to say.....Thats horrible !!

I dont want this Yu-Gi-oh-style fucking Card game
PSO-players want very Ultimate, ultra Ultimate and tons of more Red items....
that?s disgusting...plz stop destroying genius games!!!
Now I have to wait to Episode 4.
If I want to play games like this i would buy final fantasy tactics or crap like this...
sorry but im very angry..dont know what to say im very frustrated.




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[-STE-]

If you dont like just dont buy it, at the first when i saw screens of sega i didnt liked it too but now im playing it and i already have 150 hours . Try it.

[Raven5_1]

you dont get where im coming from.

like i said i could probally come round to the card playing aspect of the game and like you say the vard game may be good...

however one of the most primal aspects of pso has been the ability to creat a character and to watch as that char grows in ability . sonic team have basicly dumped this aspect but left the char creation in which is for no other reason than eye candy. its nolonger part of the actual game and that,s what i cant stand.

[DualHydra]

im gonna import it when it comes out. i just hope my U.S HL works with it >_<.

[Malkavian]

All of the people that bashes PSO Episode 3 would prefer that PSO Card Battle didn't exist and Episode 1&2 be the last PSO of this console generation?
Episode 3 as a next version of regular PSO has never exist. Since beginning there was announced an add-on for Episode 1&2 based on cards.
What harm does Episode 3 to Episode 1&2? It wont separate the people neither since the people will be able to meet in the lobbies and have their guild cards.
Calm Down, Episode 3 hasn't done anything bad to you.



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[LollipopLolita]

On 2003-08-16 11:23, Raven5_1 wrote:
however one of the most primal aspects of pso has been the ability to creat a character and to watch as that char grows in ability .

who said the character doesn't grow in ability as your level rises?

what ste said actually made me laugh.

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[Raven5_1]

On 2003-08-16 13:14, LollipopLolita wrote:

On 2003-08-16 11:23, Raven5_1 wrote:
however one of the most primal aspects of pso has been the ability to creat a character and to watch as that char grows in ability .

who said the character doesn't grow in ability as your level rises?

what ste said actually made me laugh.

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its not the same your created char does not grow through battle as in ep 1 & 2... so whats the point of creating a char which you actually cant play the actual game with?

[LollipopLolita]

they didn't even have to put it in, but people always forget that the upside to it and this new game is being able to play multiple classes at one time. and your card collection do grow.

for whatever reasons you might dislike the game, they're your reason and you're free to have those. if you don't like it, just don't buy the game, but no one can make a fair judgement of the game til you're right there playing it.

[Raven5_1]

On 2003-08-16 13:51, LollipopLolita wrote:
they didn't even have to put it in, but people always forget that the upside to it and this new game is being able to play multiple classes at one time. and your card collection do grow.

for whatever reasons you might dislike the game, they're your reason and you're free to have those. if you don't like it, just don't buy the game, but no one can make a fair judgement of the game til you're right there playing it.



this is the crux of my problem i could easily stomach the card game and playing multiple classes i play rpg's all the time. but they specificly left the char creation in its like a mockery of the ep 1 & 2 it basicly doesnt add to the game (yes i know the char can run around in the lobby and pioneer 2 but really you cant actually play the game with the char) and in essence can be misleading and this irritates me it comes off as a cold marketing ploy. thats my gripe, im not hating on episode 3

[LollipopLolita]

how is it a marketing ploy if they never marketed that aspect of it? people could see it in this positive way, oh hey thanks for putting in that nsotalgic aspect of it.

[Raven5_1]

i respectfully disagree with you on this

the thing was when it became apparent that char creation function was still in the game they left out it has no relevance to the actual game.

and be honest if someone who had no idea about this change found that the char they just created couldnt be used in the actuall game it probaly would irritated them... alot nostalga would be the futhest thing from their minds

[LollipopLolita]

it's actually not in the jp marketing "ploys" out there. it's included in the manual as how to start the game

[Raven5_1]

On 2003-08-16 15:05, LollipopLolita wrote:
it's actually not in the jp marketing "ploys" out there. it's included in the manual as how to start the game


look i know your defending a game you enjoy but going back to what i said before your recent post the same applys for bying the game and only finding out in the manual after purcashing the game it can lead to dissapointment and frustration.

look you are trying to justify something i see as a major fault in the production of this game. yes you have played the trial and liked it. but in my opinion there is a misleading element in the game. and it also seems that no amount of discussion will change our opinions

[DualHydra]

i havent played the game but it sure looks fun. i think i might like it for a few months just for a nice challenge. i think thats the main point of the game.

[LollipopLolita]

i wasn't trying to change your opinion, i was trying to give a fair side to it. everyone has judged the game unfairly. you don't have to buy the game to read the manual. it's up on st's site. and you don't have to buy the game at all. and it's not because i enjoy the game because it's not stellar to me, it's good, but not blow my mind off good. and it's not the best game and not every pso person would like it and there will be a lot of complaints, fights and problems. i personally think it sucks too that we can't use you characters in the battle itself, so don't assume how i feel and i don't feel ST misled anyone about this. it's a big change, a completely new game. but at least judge it fairly with an open mind realizing it's a completely different game. my personal feelings for this game does not affect my review of it when i am telling other people how the game is. just because i understand it doesn't mean i approve of it. hey the new lobbies even give erupt and i headaches

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[Saladwood]

ST isn't misleading anyone in any way.

This is a JAPANESE trial, almost all of the information is in JAPANESE. And there isn't any advertising about this game in america what-so-ever (besides stuff from gaming conventions) and no where did I see them say you can create your own character card.


And Lolita is just presenting the argument fairly.

[eRUPT]

I'm failing to see the marketing ploy as well.

I mean since when do you make your character first before you actually buy the game? And since when has making your character been some sort of highlight for sega to show off? I mean really, the majority of our screenshots and segas screenshots is ingame gameplay. They have made it very obvious about using the different decks and releasing information about heroside and darkside before the trial was even happening. They've been obvious.

And actually I'm not really into this game at all, it does give me headaches but it is something NEW finnally so thats fun for a little while, and plus its not a extra fee to play it monthly so you get something else to do for your monthly fee you already pay for Episode 1 & 2, something to do till whenever another new Ep 1&2 quest comes out or another version comes out.

Its a whole new game, and I guess people are more upset that sonic team gave them the convenience of interacting with the Episode 1 & 2 lobbys still that they have to complain about it. In the end that is the reason you have the same character creation process so you can build your lobby character to be seen in the Episode 1 & 2 lobbies that you can visit using Episode 3.

Marketing with a Beta/Trial version isn't something I'm all that familiar with, This release is for testing not for game review and marketing.

Anyhow that answers that, and I'm with lolita on giving me a headache in the new lobbies.

oke now I go do a quest on UO, adiossss!

[Raven5_1]

On 2003-08-16 16:50, LollipopLolita wrote:
i wasn't trying to change your opinion, i was trying to give a fair side to it. everyone has judged the game unfairly. you don't have to buy the game to read the manual. it's up on st's site. and you don't have to buy the game at all. and it's not because i enjoy the game because it's not stellar to me. and it's not the best game and not every pso person would like it and there will be a lot of complaints, fights and problems. i personally think it sucks too that we can't use you characters in the battle itself, so don't assume how i feel. it's a big change, a completely new game. but at least judge it fairly with an open mind realizing it's a completely different game. my personal feelings for this game does not affect my review of it when i am telling other people how the game is. just because i understand it doesn't mean i approve of it.



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fair enough but im very open to the card game aspect im not judging the gameplay im voicing my distress at a misrepresentation thats why im not impressed with this game the char creation... its not really part of the game and for a feature that was a major selling point of a series thats been around for 5 years to be cut up like this and no indication given to the loyal fans. i mean they changed the actual gameplay and made sure everybody knew about it, so i'm prepared for it and willing to experience something new. thats what rubs me the wrong way. for those who play pso to create chars its a slap in the face and most wont become aware until after purchase. yes they would get over it and will get to judge the game on there own merits but they still wouldnt know without being forewarned and would taint their perceptions of a potentially good game

[Raven5_1]

On 2003-08-16 17:19, eRUPT wrote:
I'm failing to see the marketing ploy as well.

I mean since when do you make your character first before you actually buy the game? And since when has making your character been some sort of highlight for sega to show off? I mean really, the majority of our screenshots and segas screenshots is ingame gameplay. They have made it very obvious about using the different decks and releasing information about heroside and darkside before the trial was even happening. They've been obvious.




okay i just have to respond to this

i dont remember saying that people make chars before they buy the game i remember talking about buying the game, going to create a char to then find its of no use to the actual game itself thats what i was griping about

one of the main thrusts for episode 2 was the inclusion of 3 new classes for people to play with, three new classes to create unique characters to play with. there is a precedent for this sort of thing, it was even there in episode 1 marketing.

come to think about it... its actually easy to create a char before buying a game i imagined what my racaseal would look like before i actual purchased the game and physically created her.

[AndyPandy]

Im playing it now......and im loving it, thats all that matters to me http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Da_Jue]

please come with us when you play online XD w

[Para]

As for things I expect in the full version, I hope they add more weapons and skills. To see more variety would bring more depth to the game. Of course the game in my opinion is on a solid foundation but it definitely needs more depth. My suggestion is to provide more maps and give the maps some enviromental obstacles. The maps are too plain from whatI've seen. Anyways those are my suggetions for now I guess.

[DualHydra]

i got a question. has it been possible to bring out boss cards...pretty crazy if you ask me but hey i would like to see a floating de rol le stabing a delsaber.



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[Soundboz]

need... to play... with someone that understands english ><... set a time and date somebody >.<

[Namevah]

Im sure this has been asked before but is their anywhere that I can purchase the trial besides ebay ($200 bucks! Criky!)? I would have entered the contest but (with bad timing) I was camping shortly before the contest started and came back just after it ended. Dang I wish I lived in Japan. They get all the coolest games first and have trial stuff.

[-STE-]

On 2003-08-16 20:23, Tidus_415 wrote:
i got a question. has it been possible to bring out boss cards...pretty crazy if you ask me but hey i would like to see a floating de rol le stabing a delsaber.



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i saw only miniboss GiGue Gibbles Epsilon ecc not Dragon or De Rol hehehe too big maybe.

[Da_Jue]

yea, lol maybe there aren't big boss, but only epsilon (mini boss) occupies 4 squared lol

[HUmar01]

Episode 3 can be imported now at Lik-Sang!!!!!!!
http://www.lik-sang.com/?click=pi-0-3704-alert
To bad I need to order a freeloader...

[Da_Jue]

that's only the trial, iF i want to buy it, I prefer to order from play-asia.com because they send you the trial copy and the final too



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[LollipopLolita]

kaku, do you ever sleep?

[HUmar01]

No they have the full version you just need to pre-order it.

[Da_Jue]

lol really? umh ok

w Lollipop, I need to sleep well, but not now XD, Im busy ehe, maybe tomorrow afternonn sleep a little ^__^

[RoboBlob]

So, who here thinks this game will live up to the name of PSO? Who thinks it will be an utter catastrophe? Or does it depend on if you like card games or not?

[LollipopLolita]

just keep a fair mind and realize that this is a completely different game. i don't understand what all the bitching is about.

[Q64]

Too much bitching ur right.

I'm pretty sure most people will like this game. I own the demo and its pretty hard to explain to people what its like. Its just hard to imagine if you havent played it yet. I love this game.

[RoboBlob]

Yea, morons; if you're talking about my "bitching", then you should shut up. I was asking about the game. I didn't know how it was, and I wanted to know. On the other hand, if you weren't talking about my bitching, sorry.

[LollipopLolita]

i didn't think you bitched...

[Kadou]

Somebody is likely going to tell me there hasn't been one released yet, but does anyone know where I can find a good quality (preferably gif) pic of Break (the FOmar on the Arkz team, if you don't know who I'm talking about)?

[LollipopLolita]

no kadou.

i'd just like to say a quick happy birthday to ste. i know it's off topic but no one will see it if i make it in off topic.


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[-STE-]

On 2003-08-21 00:31, LollipopLolita wrote:
no kadou.

i'd just like to say a quick happy birthday to ste. i know it's off topic but no one will see it if i make it in off topic.


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Thank you
bacio
^ ^

[Da_Jue]

ehehehe yea, happy birthday XDXD



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[LollipopLolita]

yaaaa ste old man!!!

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/heartcookie.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/heartcookie.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/heartcookie.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/heartcookie.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/heartcookie.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/heartcookie.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/heartcookie.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/heartcookie.gif

[Saladwood]

merry birth day to STE!

[-STE-]

Im 26 : P

[Da_Jue]

merry XD, birthday w (http://www.phantasystaronline.it/varie/happy_birth_STE-w.JPG)

[LollipopLolita]

awww how sweet of you kaku!

[-STE-]

Good news
Trial end at 16 / 9

And soon start a " Sega Cup "

what can be this cup? a big tournament?
i want win : D

[LollipopLolita]

has to be some sort of tournament!

[-STE-]

Good news
Trial end at 16 / 9

And soon start a " Sega Cup "

what can be this cup? a big tournament?
i want win : D

[-STE-]

Ops double post pc grrrrrrr


Big tournament?
maybe

But hard to make lot of user.

[AndyPandy]

Oh cool. ok, if anyone wants me to kick their arses with my Rappy cards.....come get some.

[-STE-]

http://www.phantasystaronline.it/episode3/snap/233.png


: )))))

[Da_Jue]

first snapshot XD w

[AndyPandy]

Jeez STE, thats alot of wins...I think ive got like...6 or something. To be honest I still cant stop playing Episodes 1&2..lol..still find it more addictive that Episode 3 at the moment.



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[Kadou]

This must be getting repetitive and annoying, and I realize it has very little to do with the topic, but if there are no good pictures of Break, then where did the avatar(s) come from?


I apologize to those this must be irritating. I'm just looking to find a pic from which I can make a good sig.

[satoshi1]

Check the media section of this site. They've got pictures of all of the NPCs from Ep.3.

[Kadou]

About all I saw on the media page that had anything remotly relating to what I'm looking for were movies, Japanese soda cans, and game covers. The only one that portrayed Break was the soda cans, but that isn't a very good pic. I also looked around in the downloads section, but I couldn't find anything. I know I've seen what I'm looking for somewhere, and I'm fairly sure it was either on or linked off of this site. I can't remember how to find it though. I also tried to get a screenshot from the intro movie, but Windows Media Player won't allow that.

[Sonicolas]

I just remember him in this wallpaper...
http://www.sonicteam.com/pso3/download.html
It's nit a pic of him entirely but at least you can dl the 1280×1024 one for a high quality

[Kadou]

I already saw that along with everthing else on this website.

[Sharkyland]

*sigh* It's going to be lonely playing offline when I get this game. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Sonicolas]

http://sonicolas.tripod.com/Break.jpg

There you go.. Highest JPEG Quality... 276 KB
If that to small.. You can dl the 20 MB of at Sega's Public FTP http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

Sorry.. I was too lazy to dl it last time I replied to you

[Kadou]

D'oh! 'Image Hosted by Tripod - http://www.tripod.com'

[Sonicolas]

http://sonicolas.tripod.com/break.html
there.. this should bypass the security.. I reduced the quality (a little) so that the browser can support it (I don't know why a quality 100 can't be viewed on tripod... anyway.. enjoy!

[-STE-]

I add a gallery of snapshot under my site
http://www.phantasystaronline.it/ep3snap1.html

i add pics every day and i use psoproxy for upload it with usb memory card.

[Sharkyland]

Kakurine... isn't that from "Evil Zone" (dunno the Japanese name for it but it's like Ejaravistu...

[Kadou]

Ah, thank you, Sonicolas. The quality is fine. You don't by chance know/remember where that pic came from, do you?

[Sonicolas]

Yup..
Go to Sega's Public FTP Download at
http://segapr.segaamerica.com

Beware.. it's 20 meg big!! (PS Needed)
There is currently 2 pictures..
Break.. and that white dressed girl

[Da_Jue]

On 2003-08-27 09:59, Sharkyland wrote:
Kakurine... isn't that from "Evil Zone" (dunno the Japanese name for it but it's like Ejaravistu...


yup, I like that game XD

[Sharkyland]

Naruhoro.

Hmm, was the trial version playable with that boot disc, Free Loader? I only heard that it doesn't work with F-Zero GX.

PS - America people, buy Disgaea.

[HUmar01]

Can Epiosde 1&2 people Join any Episode 3 Lobbies? And give me the best site to import Episode 3(the Full version)

[-STE-]

No, about site ncsx.com is good

[-STE-]

oh this is a funny thing
if you press b and g letter on keyboard when first menu of episode 3 come out you can see a movie of new sega game billie giant egg : D

[Servbot41]

I think this will be an AWESOME game, since the RPG genre is my fav. I liked the old PSO but I think this wont take its place or visa versa. I really like the way they seem to animate your fights with other char. with the weapons and monsters you accumulate. And rare hunting shouldnt change just the rating system is all thats different (I welcome this as I am quite used to Megaman battle Network which isnt all that different from this game.)
So how many of you have changed your thoughts about this game from the begining of this topic?

[Black000Moon]

RPGs are awesome cards hmmmmmm still probably going to be a really good game the music is pretty nice

[person]

i cant c ne thing

[FeVer]

Am i the only one who thinks it will totally own? I mean come on! cards! of your favorite enemies, items, and weapons! but maby i'm over-reacting, because ummm... I've played card games all my life... but yeah... it will own...

[KaFKa]

all i have to say is f*** the card system. have any of you geniuses looked around and seen what the hell is dominating the market? CARD GAMES!!! sonic team is just joining the gravy-train and hoping to get a few more bucks out of it than they would normally get.

[FeVer]

Have you seen whats owning the market? CARD GAMES! everyone wants them! of course ST is out to make money! thats why they make games! Otherwise no PSO for you... The card games are owning the entire market, so I'm sure that it wasn't St who actually thought of cards, I'm sure it was their salesmen... so I mean comeon... people bad-mouthing it because its got cards in it... thats just sad... you should always try a game before badmouthing it... I tried Yu-Gi-Oh, and thats why I am allowed to make fun of its horrible system, and the fact that its pictures look totally unrealistic, and that its based off of a anime show, but yeah... There are still plenty of card games out there, and you definatly can't tell me that you didn't play pokemon, because noone was spared by their game, everyone played it, and if you didn't then umm... you had serious issues...

[KaFKa]

uhm, fever, not all of us were ADHD ten-year-olds back then. and no, i didnt play that damn game. all i did with it was take the cards that the little kids left on my driveway and burn them. useless game. and the strategy is going to be mediocre at best. this coming from an old-school MTG player. and the whole idea of killing creatures with cards is utterly unrealistic unless you're gambit and can blow the holy crap out of them with a card. *thinks of the possibilities* but nonetheless, this is just ST driving yet another title into the ground for the sake of "the quick buck" instead of thinking ahead a few games. if they were to refine the current pso battle system and add into the storyline and delve deeper into ragol (which, in my opinion, wouldn't take more effort than this card shit) they would sell about the same amount of games, and probably be able to make yet another addition to the series, essentially doubling their money. so, i'll ask you again, fever, is ST going for the money, or for the quick-buck-before-we-lose-this-one, mentaility?

[hyper_sonic]

well, I think this will be a pretty neat game....sure, it's card battling, but that doesn't instantly make it bad or anything. It's like saying a FPS sucks just because it's a FPS (which IMO don't usually suck, just an example). heh, I remember somewhere people were spreading BS about the game and they compared it to yu-gi-oh quite often. why not compare it to magic:the gathering or something? I mean, it's a card game just like yu-gi-oh, just that it plays differently. I mean there are probably people who like Yu-gi-oh, but there are a lot more magic people from what I've seen.

on another note: when is this game coming out? I would like to know this....

[RavenTW]

Actually, it's more a combination of MTG and Yugioh: Dungeon Dice Monsters. And I beleive February is the average date expected.

[DarkSimonX]

I think the card pso is not going to be as good as this action rpg