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Maulcun
Oct 29, 2016, 09:17 AM
http://pso2.jp/players/news/image/sysupload/element/info/20160915/pso2station.jpg
https://twitter.com/sega_pso2/status/792356364194459649

Date: November 19, 2016

Time: 12:00~14:00 JST

Automatic conversion time : https://goo.gl/Kf0Tfc

Official Link Nico Nico: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv280753345
Official Link YouTube :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC4NUP6YfwM
Official Link abemafresh: https://abemafresh.tv/sega/58562


Important Topics

Informations about December updates (PSO2 PC and PSO2es).
Informations about collaboration with a popular title.
Juri Kimura (Xiera CV) will appear as a special guest.
More details on that AIS plastic model.


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Recap Videos (1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYJe4bco-xQ&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8GKWjHngY8&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca5v-sCNob8&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ulcTLqToU&feature=youtu.be

Recap Videos (2)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFbxhAIZ1Wo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pZ7bAh4NOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzC6rVFtEh0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMnibtSPrPY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egruYC09zl0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhu9PvUZcJw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAALcodz1wo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLxwF71BzVY

Tymek
Oct 29, 2016, 05:20 PM
*aggressive mouth foaming*

Maulcun
Nov 11, 2016, 08:28 AM
update (11/11)

sasagi.jp
Nov 14, 2016, 08:48 AM
New content information of next spring seems to be released.

Shinamori
Nov 14, 2016, 02:55 PM
Roadmap probably.

Eternal255
Nov 14, 2016, 05:48 PM
What is this?

Kintama
Nov 14, 2016, 05:50 PM
If roadmap there is it will probably stop where episode 4 is supposed to end and we could get a teaser or just a mention of an episode 5 if we're good kids.

Gwyndolin
Nov 18, 2016, 08:30 PM
I'm also hoping for a roadmap and a bit more about the new raid boss.

Goukezitsu
Nov 18, 2016, 10:25 PM
Character Music CD Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFbxhAIZ1Wo

7-11 Campaign Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pZ7bAh4NOk

Shimamura Collaboration Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzC6rVFtEh0

Christmas Update Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMnibtSPrPY

Persona 5 Collab and Raid Boss Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egruYC09zl0

Battle Arena Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLxwF71BzVY

PSO2es Update Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhu9PvUZcJw

PSO2 Star Gem Scratch Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAALcodz1wo

Meteor Weapon
Nov 18, 2016, 10:56 PM
DEATH PLACE REMASTERED

I CAME

Gwyndolin
Nov 18, 2016, 10:56 PM
14 stars... oh my...

abidias
Nov 18, 2016, 11:00 PM
14* o.õ

Too soon.

This new falz looks familiar ...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/F6brDX2PnEE/hqdefault.jpg

Lyrise
Nov 18, 2016, 11:18 PM
My interest has piqued - they were saying the 14* weapons are going to have some really crazy latents. Could this be a return to PSO1 style specialized weapons?

loafhero
Nov 18, 2016, 11:21 PM
Dat Falz Arms attack from Mother XD

Xaeris
Nov 18, 2016, 11:21 PM
There's a recolor of an outfit we got in Episode 1 in the SG scratch. Why. Just why.

loafhero
Nov 18, 2016, 11:25 PM
Least we're finally getting the Matoi Viel outfit, weapon camos and the Innocent Cluster layer wear.

EvilMag
Nov 18, 2016, 11:28 PM
looks like the 14*s I notice are Spread Needle and I think Eternal Psycho Drive

Altiea
Nov 18, 2016, 11:41 PM
looks like the 14*s I notice are Spread Needle and I think Eternal Psycho Drive

Oh boy, 14* Weaponoid Potential incoming?

Also, FINALLY, A USE FOR THIS XION LONG THAT HAS BEEN SITTING IN MY SALON FOR TWO YEARS

MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED! AGRISSA AND PHANTASMA CAMOS

loafhero
Nov 18, 2016, 11:46 PM
Sorry to ask but can anyone tell me which video and minute mark do the 14 stars appear?

SteveCZ
Nov 18, 2016, 11:47 PM
Now 14* is definitely something to get. Finally.

...

and the female christmas outfit. :blush:

Xaeris
Nov 18, 2016, 11:47 PM
The Persona 5 and Raid Boss trailer, at the very end as a stinger.

loafhero
Nov 18, 2016, 11:51 PM
The Persona 5 and Raid Boss trailer, at the very end as a stinger.

Ah, thanks. I really should learn to watch a trailer till the very end.

The 14* Katana scabbard attached to the arm design looks cool.

oratank
Nov 18, 2016, 11:52 PM
damint sega put motoi costume in sg

SteveCZ
Nov 18, 2016, 11:58 PM
There you go. 6v6.

loafhero
Nov 19, 2016, 12:00 AM
Never realized that Luther's DF outfit had a futuristic kravat on it.

oratank
Nov 19, 2016, 12:01 AM
battle mode has return

Altiea
Nov 19, 2016, 12:01 AM
And another Song Festa? Guess I'm gonna be updating my YouTube channel again soon.

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 12:04 AM
13* Maron CF. * w*

Ah! The new pet is another ranged one. Cool.

Meteor Weapon
Nov 19, 2016, 12:06 AM
Lol at that PVP, I wonder how they're gonna get it done.

SteveCZ
Nov 19, 2016, 12:11 AM
Looking at it, most probably strict PAs/techs and weapons to use, extremely unexpected balanced damage, etc. Since it's in challenge block (is it? correct me i forgot), maybe the PAs and weapons are available by drops as usual (or through mining?) .. whatever that is, it sounds like you gotta farm them during battle.

Nyansan
Nov 19, 2016, 12:11 AM
inb4 'nub 1v1 fite me in shared ship'

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 12:12 AM
*reading bumped to catch up*

http://puu.sh/sn92i/0c9aafe418.png
http://i.imgur.com/XZO6IX3.jpg

Touka
Nov 19, 2016, 12:16 AM
Don't know if they'll bring it back but maybe Arks Grand Prix with pvp battle?Might be fun to watch.

Altiea
Nov 19, 2016, 12:18 AM
Looking at it, most probably strict PAs/techs and weapons to use, extremely unexpected balanced damage, etc. Since it's in challenge block (is it? correct me i forgot), maybe the PAs and weapons are available by drops as usual (or through mining?) .. whatever that is, it sounds like you gotta farm them during battle.

They'll probably do preset loadouts with limited customisation like the ARKS GP Practice Quests.

cheapgunner
Nov 19, 2016, 12:18 AM
13* Maron CF. * w*

Ah! The new pet is another ranged one. Cool.

Thank goodness, Now I can get my goddamn Marons finally...

SteveCZ
Nov 19, 2016, 12:22 AM
They'll probably do preset loadouts with limited customisation like the ARKS GP Practice Quests.

Oh right, could be.

Altiea
Nov 19, 2016, 12:31 AM
So are we actually going to see Braver Wars: The Guren Strikes Back?

yoshiblue
Nov 19, 2016, 12:33 AM
If we could get 32:32 or 50:50 combat that would be pretty cool, but I doubt it would happen. Regardless, now people can "pwn the scrubs" like the edge lordsjustice bringers they always wanted to be.

nguuuquaaa
Nov 19, 2016, 12:34 AM
*reading bumped to catch up*

http://puu.sh/sn92i/0c9aafe418.png
http://i.imgur.com/XZO6IX3.jpg

There's no main class bonus for tact so....

Guess I can play FI/SU now :wacko:

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 12:39 AM
There's no main class bonus for tact so....

Guess I can play FI/SU now :wacko:Really, like all the pet related skills are main class only except like... point assist. I can't really think of a use for this other than lolmaron on classes that lack heavy burst normally. I'm just excited because I like maining techer when I play solo.

nguuuquaaa
Nov 19, 2016, 12:44 AM
Really, like all the pet related skills are main class only except like... point assist. I can't really think of a use for this other than lolmaron on classes that lack heavy burst normally. I'm just excited because I like maining techer when I play solo.

Well, all the damage up skills except Alter Ego are there, and we got Critical strike in return.... not really a good trade.....
But yeah Maron on Techer would be cool lol.

Alenoir
Nov 19, 2016, 12:46 AM
Really, like all the pet related skills are main class only except like... point assist. I can't really think of a use for this other than lolmaron on classes that lack heavy burst normally. I'm just excited because I like maining techer when I play solo.

All Attack Bonus 1/2 is 110% each and there's Pet Elemental Weak Hit, so as a sub SU provides... 1.27x damage modifier for on-element attacks? Not sure if that's done right, can't remember how damage formula goes.

Oh and 200 raw ATK stats and some DEF and PP and HP, since what else can people get on a sub SU?

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 12:48 AM
All Attack Bonus 1/2 is 110% each and there's Pet Elemental Weak Hit, so as a sub SU provides... 1.27x damage modifier for on-element attacks? Not sure if that's done right, can't remember how damage formula goes.

Oh and 200 raw ATK stats and some DEF and PP and HP, since what else are you going to get on a sub SU?I meant the pets specifically aren't that useful to other classes. Su actually feels like an ok general purpose sub if you want techs but don't want rainbow weapons.

Zysets
Nov 19, 2016, 12:49 AM
DEATH PLACE REMASTERED

I CAME

This was honestly all I wanted out of the new boss
I'm so happy I might actually cry....

Maulcun
Nov 19, 2016, 12:50 AM
Recap Videos add

Alenoir
Nov 19, 2016, 12:50 AM
I meant the pets specifically aren't that useful to other classes. Su actually feels like an ok general purpose sub if you want techs but don't want rainbow weapons.

Yeah, so I'm not too worried about broken Maron damage on FI/SU and yelling nerf and stuffs. Would be fun if Alter Ego is doable for FI/SU though, gotta die 2x faster, right? :D

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 12:54 AM
Would be fun if Alter Ego is doable for FI/SU though, gotta die 2x faster, right? :DReal talk, sometimes I die using alter ego with the PP conversion ring because it drops my hp down just enough to let me get oneshot. :T

Alenoir
Nov 19, 2016, 12:58 AM
Real talk, sometimes I die using alter ego with the PP conversion ring because it drops my hp down just enough to let me get oneshot. :T

I can't count the amount of times where I just get one shot by stuff even when I have enough HP to take a hit, cause the attack touched my pet. It's pretty sad lying on ground watching your Maron blow up. :<

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 12:58 AM
http://puu.sh/snaRt/bd564fce2b.png
https://31.media.tumblr.com/e726521e3890895fa857fc5b571bda22/tumblr_inline_nenpxy4Gst1qkwank.gif

cheapgunner
Nov 19, 2016, 01:00 AM
http://puu.sh/snaRt/bd564fce2b.png
https://31.media.tumblr.com/e726521e3890895fa857fc5b571bda22/tumblr_inline_nenpxy4Gst1qkwank.gif

Sounds great but that means taking off some parfaits to put this one in. Need the parfait limit increased to 3 pls. >.>;

Alenoir
Nov 19, 2016, 01:01 AM
http://puu.sh/snaRt/bd564fce2b.png

S.....so hopefully some kinda Viola parfait...!?

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 01:03 AM
Sounds great but that means taking off some parfaits to put this one in. Need the parfait limit increased to 3 pls. >.>;I can live with 6% less bonus damage on my Popple if it means I can recover 60 pp per hit.

Might put one on my Viola too. I also have a Syncho I'm building for PP efficiency to kick shit forever when I'm doing dailies so it could use that (I still need the rolls though).

cheapgunner
Nov 19, 2016, 01:07 AM
I can live with 6% less bonus damage on my Popple if it means I can recover 60 pp per hit.

Might put one on my Viola too. I also have a Syncho I'm building for PP efficiency to kick shit forever when I'm doing dailies so it could use that (I still need the rolls though).


True. What I see with this new parfait is that Torim spiral is more manageable and Voila overall to boot.

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 01:09 AM
True. What I see with this new parfait is that Torim spiral is more manageable and Voila overall to boot.I'm fine with torim spiral costing a lot since I rarely get the chance to use it more than twice before torim shout runs out anyway.

EDIT: then again I'm using a megaton parfait instead of a daredevil parfait on Torim, :wacko:

Ahri
Nov 19, 2016, 01:41 AM
Omg dat parfait is god send :d!!

loafhero
Nov 19, 2016, 01:44 AM
That Battle Arena (PvP) was HYPE!! PvP has finally come to PSO2!!

Upon a closer look:

- Ranged weapons bullets/arrows will be very bright, long, and easy to see to allow other players to predict the Ranged user's path of fire.

- Swords get a Battle Arena specific PA that looks like a mix between Rising Edge and Over End: Only one upper swing but the range of the attack is pretty large.

- Randomized weapons that you need to pick up around the Arena. Hope you've been practising using other weapons~

Suffice to say, Lisa will be very pleased :D

Great Pan
Nov 19, 2016, 01:51 AM
A bit disappointed in PvP, I WANNA USE MY OWN GEAR TO STOMP THOSE SHITTY PLAYERS FLAT!

Xaelouse
Nov 19, 2016, 01:55 AM
How are 14*s "too soon"? Some weapons types have 20+ 13*s as it is

GHNeko
Nov 19, 2016, 01:59 AM
No one can imagine the vindication I have for building x/Su builds in advance with the gut feeling knowing that "one day there will be all class tacts or craftable tacts."

NO ONE.

Great Pan
Nov 19, 2016, 02:01 AM
And yeah, *14 HYPE GUYS! I AM THE PROPHETCY!

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 02:07 AM
No one can imagine the vindication I have for building x/Su builds in advance with the gut feeling knowing that "one day there will be all class tacts or craftable tacts."

NO ONE.I really want to know what classes people think can make better use of pets than main Su or which classes pets would fill a niche for that something else can't do better. :T I mean, the idea sounds fun, don't get me wrong, but people are acting like this is the second coming of Hu or something.

EDIT: that's not rhetoric either. I really do want to know, because if there's something I'm missing, then I'm super curious, considering the best uses I can think of for Su sub have nothing to do with the pets.

starwind75043
Nov 19, 2016, 02:20 AM
Welp time to bank star gems i guess.....

loafhero
Nov 19, 2016, 02:23 AM
A bit disappointed in PvP, I WANNA USE MY OWN GEAR TO STOMP THOSE SHITTY PLAYERS FLAT!

HAHA, too bad for you! You have no choice but to use actual skill and basic knowledge of all weapon mechanics because in Battle Arena, everyone starts off equal!

That player you met and kept mocking for their poor gear? Chances are, that same player could wipe the floor with you!

Zysets
Nov 19, 2016, 02:39 AM
HAHA, too bad for you! You have no choice but to use actual skill and basic knowledge of all weapon mechanics because in Battle Arena, everyone starts off equal!

That player you met and kept mocking for their poor gear? Chances are, that same player could wipe the floor with you!

Boy am I glad they went with that, Battle Mode would be horrible if it were based on your own gear. If it were based on your gear, it'd be either super frustrating or super easy when playing with randoms, neither being any fun.

Also, I'm glad I've been saving up Star Gems, I need all the Luther items.....
I'd actually like a female version of Luther's DF outfit, but that'll never happen

loafhero
Nov 19, 2016, 02:48 AM
Boy am I glad they went with that, Battle Mode would be horrible if it were based on your own gear. If it were based on your gear, it'd be either super frustrating or super easy when playing with randoms, neither being any fun.


Not to mention that certain PAs can utterly destroy other players without much effort. Making players use Battle Arena-only PAs was a smart move. The Guren Tessen PA would have demolished other players.

SteveCZ
Nov 19, 2016, 02:55 AM
Not to mention that certain PAs can utterly destroy other players without much effort. Making players use Battle Arena-only PAs was a smart move. The Guren Tessen PA would have demolished other players.

Unless they make that tessen to be 1 dmg only, lol. :D

Imca
Nov 19, 2016, 03:22 AM
I really want to know what classes people think can make better use of pets than main Su or which classes pets would fill a niche for that something else can't do better. :T I mean, the idea sounds fun, don't get me wrong, but people are acting like this is the second coming of Hu or something.

EDIT: that's not rhetoric either. I really do want to know, because if there's something I'm missing, then I'm super curious, considering the best uses I can think of for Su sub have nothing to do with the pets.


Maybe TE/SU honestly, you have all the main class only buffs to your buffs under techer, that would now apply to your fluffy little murder-balls too, as well as access to compound technics?

I dont play techer though, so I cant say for sure.

GHNeko
Nov 19, 2016, 03:41 AM
I really want to know what classes people think can make better use of pets than main Su or which classes pets would fill a niche for that something else can't do better. :T I mean, the idea sounds fun, don't get me wrong, but people are acting like this is the second coming of Hu or something.

EDIT: that's not rhetoric either. I really do want to know, because if there's something I'm missing, then I'm super curious, considering the best uses I can think of for Su sub have nothing to do with the pets.

Atm, I have some hopes for FoSu because Su's multis are pretty okay as a Te replacement, and having access to compound technics on top of maron, and having popple for pp restoration (esp with the new parfait) tells me that FoSu can put in some work along side FoBr and FoTe.

Shinamori
Nov 19, 2016, 03:58 AM
Yeah, gonna pass on PVP.

Flaoc
Nov 19, 2016, 04:34 AM
meh 0 interest in pvp

Sizustar
Nov 19, 2016, 04:38 AM
I really want to know what classes people think can make better use of pets than main Su or which classes pets would fill a niche for that something else can't do better. :T I mean, the idea sounds fun, don't get me wrong, but people are acting like this is the second coming of Hu or something.

EDIT: that's not rhetoric either. I really do want to know, because if there's something I'm missing, then I'm super curious, considering the best uses I can think of for Su sub have nothing to do with the pets.

Techer maybe?

Poyonche
Nov 19, 2016, 06:00 AM
TE/SU might be good, because it would benefit from Marron and Torim which would be a good bossing tool.

But SEGA, why is the takt 10* but still have 100 T-atk only ? WHYYYY ?

Shadowstarkirby
Nov 19, 2016, 06:26 AM
PvP looks like it's going to be awful and annoying, ping is likely going to be very high trying to combat against people on the other side of the world and the mere thought of being blasted from Foie spam, looking to do upwards of 200 damage a hit with a 300 HP pool doesn't sound enjoyable. There's probably gonna be units to grab to increase HP (saw HP vary from 300-400), DEF, and Resist though, so probably won't be as bad as I think, but so far not impressed and looks like it'll be Force dominant. Might be fun to play with friends in a casual manner every once in a while though, so here's hoping it's a nice side thing to do in-between the dead times an EQ isn't going on.

Also, Sega, please don't mess up with 14*s! Give them some unique traits besides having damage bonus + extra fluff. You had something going with the Form series, do more weapons similar in style to them.

Arada
Nov 19, 2016, 10:34 AM
I don't where that news come from but if you say:
綺麗なバラには棘があるものよ
あなたもこのニーソに踏まれたいのかしら
フォトンブラスト呼んじゃうぽん
みんな聞いて今年のクリスマスは中止だトナ

Each sentence gives 10 voices. Some of them are old but it's a good catch up.

PrinceBrightstar
Nov 19, 2016, 10:38 AM
Mother's hair in that one cut scene look similar to the wires coming out of mother brain's head in Phantasy Star 2. But I think we all know this won't be the end. Algol awaits.

Sizustar
Nov 19, 2016, 11:25 AM
I don't where that news come from but if you say:
綺麗なバラには棘があるものよ
あなたもこのニーソに踏まれたいのかしら
フォトンブラスト呼んじゃうぽん
みんな聞いて今年のクリスマスは中止だトナ

Each sentence gives 10 voices. Some of them are old but it's a good catch up.

That's from the Dark Falz Girls broadcast, and also on PSO2pedia's twitter
https://twitter.com/PSO2_pedia/status/799964241432190976

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 12:55 PM
Don't get me wrong guys. I AM looking forward to an allclass tact, I'm just wondering if it has some sort of surprise gimmick like Fo/Gu or Te/Br.


Maybe TE/SU honestly, you have all the main class only buffs to your buffs under techer, that would now apply to your fluffy little murder-balls too, as well as access to compound technics?

I dont play techer though, so I cant say for sure.That's like doing Te/Fi and using knuckles though. You're losing so much from the Su tree that the Te buffs don't mean much from your pet. It'd be nice solo, but for anything with an actual Te you'd be better off maining Su anyway.


Atm, I have some hopes for FoSu because Su's multis are pretty okay as a Te replacement, and having access to compound technics on top of maron, and having popple for pp restoration (esp with the new parfait) tells me that FoSu can put in some work along side FoBr and FoTe.Unless the new tact has decent t-atk I still think Fo/Su is a bust. Maron isn't actually that strong without a bunch of damage multipliers, which Fo doesn't provide, and popple can be easily replaced with a gunshlash, pp conversion, or the pp fish PB.

kmystic
Nov 19, 2016, 01:16 PM
I don't where that news come from but if you say:
綺麗なバラには棘があるものよ
あなたもこのニーソに踏まれたいのかしら
フォトンブラスト呼んじゃうぽん
みんな聞いて今年のクリスマスは中止だトナ


Each sentence gives 10 voices. Some of them are old but it's a good catch up.

i guess it's to late now to get the voices? if so can anyone list the voices u get from that campaign?

Sizustar
Nov 19, 2016, 01:21 PM
i guess it's to late now to get the voices? if so can anyone list the voices u get from that campaign?

Voice ticket from the DFG

http://i.imgur.com/ypLDrmx.png

nguuuquaaa
Nov 19, 2016, 01:30 PM
I wonder if pet's PAs will be usable without SU main or sub class or not...

kmystic
Nov 19, 2016, 01:41 PM
Voice ticket from the DFG

http://i.imgur.com/ypLDrmx.png

I was kinda hoping for them to be typed out because i can't read moonrunes but thanks anyway ^^;

EvilMag
Nov 19, 2016, 01:42 PM
pso2 pvp will be an e-sport.

In all honestly I wouldn't be surprised if pvp becomes the main Arks Grand Prix event

Dark Emerald EXE
Nov 19, 2016, 01:50 PM
I wonder if pet's PAs will be usable without SU main or sub class or not...
In theory we should assuming Pets work in the same fashion as Weapons/PAs do when you have that class as sub.

Z-0
Nov 19, 2016, 02:15 PM
pso2 pvp will be an e-sport.

In all honestly I wouldn't be surprised if pvp becomes the main Arks Grand Prix event
It won't, every GP event in PS history has been a Challenge event of some nature, even with the existence of Battle in PSO1 and PSP2 (PSP2's GPs were 3 duo challenge stages, while PSO2 GPs were similar)

Also I'm pretty sure the 14*s are going to be awfully implemented, so I wouldn't bother getting hyped. Just more reason to not play.

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 02:38 PM
Also I'm pretty sure the 14*s are going to be awfully implemented, so I wouldn't bother getting hyped. Just more reason to not play.Eh? they've been doing a good job with creating interesting latents on 13*s lately. I don't see why the 14*s won't be that way too.

Z-0
Nov 19, 2016, 02:45 PM
14*s are most likely going to drop from Mother, which is most likely going to be a scheduled-only EQ, and have ridiculous drop rates like Austere in the past.

They specifically said it would be a drop, so... why bother playing? I don't particularly like having to "lower my goals" because of bad systems.

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 02:47 PM
14*s are most likely going to drop from Mother, which is most likely going to be a scheduled-only EQ, and have ridiculous drop rates like Austere in the past.

They specifically said it would be a drop, so... why bother playing? I don't particularly like having to "lower my goals" because of bad systems.Oh, you mean like that. I don't really agree, but then again, I never care about first generation rares anyway.

Zorak000
Nov 19, 2016, 04:06 PM
How are 14*s "too soon"? Some weapons types have 20+ 13*s as it is

because stuff like Austere and Gix are already pretty overkill for current content; these are probably going to be ranging from "slightly stronger than our current overkill" to "looks like overkill to our overkill equipment"

I'd have liked to see a new difficulty or something to go along with this; but at the same time these are probably going to be on par with finding a Psycho Wand back when Dark Falz Elder first came out in episode 1

GHNeko
Nov 19, 2016, 04:39 PM
Don't get me wrong guys. I AM looking forward to an allclass tact, I'm just wondering if it has some sort of surprise gimmick like Fo/Gu or Te/Br.

That's like doing Te/Fi and using knuckles though. You're losing so much from the Su tree that the Te buffs don't mean much from your pet. It'd be nice solo, but for anything with an actual Te you'd be better off maining Su anyway.

Unless the new tact has decent t-atk I still think Fo/Su is a bust. Maron isn't actually that strong without a bunch of damage multipliers, which Fo doesn't provide, and popple can be easily replaced with a gunshlash, pp conversion, or the pp fish PB.

????

With FoSu, you primarily rely on Talis/Rod, and switch to Tact for Maron only to Maron Strike. After that you switch back to Rod/Talis.A

As for popple, it depends on how much the 13* Candy gives in terms of PP regen. Queen Vera is 80% @ level 3, so if the parfait gives like 50% like Pet Elemental PP Restorate, then it'll give more PP per shot on Popple than Vera, and Popple can pierce enemies so Popple Fall on 2 enemies gives twice as much PP back.

It'll deff have overall more PP regeneration than a Queen Vera.

And why would you use PP Convert/Ketos as a replacement? You wouldnt normally do that for another weapon so why popple lol.

nguuuquaaa
Nov 19, 2016, 04:41 PM
That's like doing Te/Fi and using knuckles though. You're losing so much from the Su tree that the Te buffs don't mean much from your pet. It'd be nice solo, but for anything with an actual Te you'd be better off maining Su anyway.
TE/SU already has good Zanverse, just need some damage.


In theory we should assuming Pets work in the same fashion as Weapons/PAs do when you have that class as sub.
Just wishful thinking. Hope there'll be tact with innate Maron Strike later so I could go FI/GU :wacko:

Kondibon
Nov 19, 2016, 05:06 PM
????

With FoSu, you primarily rely on Talis/Rod, and switch to Tact for Maron only to Maron Strike. After that you switch back to Rod/Talis.A

As for popple, it depends on how much the 13* Candy gives in terms of PP regen. Queen Vera is 80% @ level 3, so if the parfait gives like 50% like Pet Elemental PP Restorate, then it'll give more PP per shot on Popple than Vera, and Popple can pierce enemies so Popple Fall on 2 enemies gives twice as much PP back.

It'll deff have overall more PP regeneration than a Queen Vera.

And why would you use PP Convert/Ketos as a replacement? You wouldnt normally do that for another weapon so why popple lol.200k (if even that much) Maron strikes... yay. :T

And my point with pp convdert/ketos was just that they make popples PP regen kinda redundant anyway, not to mention Orbit rod/talis, though those are obviously harder to get. Again though, I'm talking specifically about the use of pets on other classes, not Su as a sub in general. If Tacts had decent T-atk so you could have a pet out while also teching I would be saying VERY different things.

EDIT: I guess my point is that Popple and Maron aren't big enough selling points to me for pet usage as other classes. I guess you could make an argument for popple, but Maron would be missing 40% damage multipliers


TE/SU already has good Zanverse, just need some damage.You don't need pets for Zanverse though. :U

Shinamori
Nov 19, 2016, 09:54 PM
So, how do I get the voices from the DFG...

Enforcer MKV
Nov 19, 2016, 10:57 PM
I mean....if I can get camos of that wood stock Missouri[!!!] and that Blackbull [!!!!!] I saw in the Battle Arena trailer, I'll be interested.

If not? Noooooope.

Also; Star Fox hype remains strong. xD

Sizustar
Nov 19, 2016, 10:58 PM
So, how do I get the voices from the DFG...

Speak the phrase during the campaign period.

Vatallus
Nov 19, 2016, 11:09 PM
The campaign period ended when the broadcast ended and the SG orders ended 2 hours after. Sega pulled a pretty dick move.

oratank
Nov 20, 2016, 12:03 AM
lol sega try so hard to make people follow other broadcast

Rakurai
Nov 20, 2016, 07:01 AM
I wanted a ranged pet and a dragon pet, so getting one that fulfills both of those wishes is nice.

Wonder if it's possible to shotgun its multi-projectile attacks Homing Emission style.

Masu
Nov 20, 2016, 07:56 AM
Panzer Dragoon pet :rolleyes: <3

Poyonche
Nov 20, 2016, 08:04 AM
Panzer Dragoon pet :rolleyes: <3

I'm totally going to name it Lagi.

Suplin
Nov 20, 2016, 01:35 PM
I'm totally going to name it Lagi.
Thats not Atolm though

Zorak000
Nov 20, 2016, 03:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9D-7AfEJYI is the music in this trailer a reference to anything; I feel like it should be, it has a lot of SEGA Genesis instrumentation to it

Poyonche
Nov 20, 2016, 03:58 PM
Isn't it supposed to be a reference to Mother Brain's theme of Phantasy Star 2 ?

PokeminMaster
Nov 20, 2016, 04:22 PM
If I remember correctly, Mother Brain's theme was Death Palace, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2thohedmteQ