From the Arks Live (8/5/17)

[Sizustar]

From the Arks Live

- Deus Trigger to be implemented
- Next job will be antother Advanced Job too(To be implemented after Ep.5)
- They will fix the matching making bug before the new EQ Buster Quest implemented
- Fix Enemy hate(Not targeting the Hero or Hu that use the skill, instead targeting who hit it last)
- Currently in discussion on buffing Te
- ウェラボード(12* Rear unit from LQ) is only availeble during this LQ, but there is plan to make it a accessory or similar through SG scratch
- Current avaiable class, are planning new skills(PA/Skill/Tech?) and other change are planned
- There is no plan to nerf Hr, the goal is for it to be a strong class that even a novice can deal high damage with.

- More to be added?
-Illusia Rare CV is Daiichi Kanbara
- 14* Drop from new Yamato will be Yamato only drop
- New SG will have plan to have some sort of AC gacha ticket/recycle thing(Something like the L Hero ticket?)

-Late August AC scratch will have Luthor, Harriet, Arisa, etc and will be layered wear
Accessory include a rainbow wing, Bonus prize is Arm Claw and Missle LA
- Advanced Quest will include Shironia
- New limited Event - Ark Boost Rally - Clearing it at different difficulity will earn different temporary boost, will have dedicated 13*
- First phase will be Beach, Volcano and AD Shironea
- Will drop special 13*Sword and Gix
- New 13* Potentional is said to be dedicated to Hr

[final_attack]

I wonder what weapons the new Advanced class is ..... after Ep5? That's. .. still pretty long time, right? ._. A year maybe?

Also, Te's buff, huh .... I'd like to see that :D More support skills ..... or more wand's (+explosion) damage ...

Would like to know new skills for current classes too ... :D

I'm still hoping Gu's Tmg gameplay should've been like current Hero's Tmg >_> Nimble, not stationary

[[Ayumi]]

- There is no plan to nerf Hr, the goal is for it to be a strong class that even a novice can deal high damage with.


Good. Stay that way.

[ZerotakerZX]

>Currently in discussion on buffing Te
First nerfed its main attacking tech to hell, now this. It better be good

>- There is no plan to nerf Hr, the goal is for it to be a strong class that even a novice can deal high damage with.
classs for novices that needs 3x75+. segalogic.

[Rayden]

What Arks Live? Isn't it supposed to be on the 5th? I don't see anything about this on Bumped or the PSO2 site.

[Sizustar]

What Arks Live? Isn't it supposed to be on the 5th? I don't see anything about this on Bumped or the PSO2 site.

The one in Osaka today...What other one is there?
http://pso2.jp/players/event/5th_anniversary/festa2017/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DF8R1_fVwAAsU__.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DF8RdFuUQAAH04-.jpg

[KaizoKage]

- Next job will be antother Advanced Job too(To be implemented after Ep.5)


I bet on EP6, which will be a year from now, unless EP5 finishes on October lol :v

Knuckle + Jet boots perhaps?

[Nitro Vordex]

Please give me a Herofied knuckles class. I need that.

​I need that.

[LancerFate]

From the Arks Live
- Next job will be antother Advanced Job too(To be implemented after Ep.5)

Nice to know they confirmed it.


class that even a novice can deal high damage with
classs for novices that needs 3x75+. segalogic.
interpretation of EVEN a novice can deal damage with, is not class FOR novice btw.

[Mattykins]

This is pso2. You can max all of your classes and still have no fucking clue what you're doing in any of them :T

[Masu]

From the Arks Live

- Will drop special 13*Sword and Gix
- New 13* Potentional is said to be dedicated to Hr

Good to know, so I keep myself to grind/affix any sword until we know what it will be. My mesetas say thanks.

[KaizoKage]

This is pso2. You can max all of your classes and still have no fucking clue what you're doing in any of them :T

I agree whole heartedly

[ralf542]

- There is no plan to nerf Hr, the goal is for it to be a strong class that even a novice can deal high damage with.

Waiting for Hero only or kick PF's. Oh, wrong game.

[Zorak000]

bumped is reporting that the sword is named "Altacray" or "Altercray", it could by this lyndcray recolor from the files: https://i.imgbox.com/m17f0k30.jpg

[Altiea]

- Advanced Quest will include Shironia

So... They literally just got around to this now?

[[Ayumi]]

>- There is no plan to nerf Hr, the goal is for it to be a strong class that even a novice can deal high damage with.
classs for novices that needs 3x75+. segalogic.

You never played non expert EQs?


This is pso2. You can max all of your classes and still have no fucking clue what you're doing in any of them :T

This person has.

[ZerotakerZX]

;3428632']You never played non expert EQs?
I'm not mad.

[Zorak000]

I remember telling a friend who was trying to clear Heaven and Hell 1-5 as a braver that you can block attacks in this game

[reinforcers]

- Fix Enemy hate(Not targeting the Hero or Hu that use the skill, instead targeting who hit it last)
- Currently in discussion on buffing Te
- Current avaiable class, are planning new skills(PA/Skill/Tech?) and other change are planned
- There is no plan to nerf Hr, the goal is for it to be a strong class that even a novice can deal high damage with.

- enemy hate need fix indeed, I feel that the hate is got locked at some point, not even hunter Cry or gunner Showtime make any differences
- Te definitely need a buff
- new PA is needed especially bouncer which has lesser number of PAs then others
- Hr is quite good, it might have highest damage but it also easiest to die, beside need 3 classes at 75, who want normal class to unlock with those requirements. if it get nerf I believe the requirements also get nerf too


>- There is no plan to nerf Hr, the goal is for it to be a strong class that even a novice can deal high damage with.
classs for novices that needs 3x75+. segalogic.
nothing new on PSO2 actually. Techer, Fighter, Gunner used to be unlocked 1st too


This is pso2. You can max all of your classes and still have no fucking clue what you're doing in any of them :T
thats one of the reason export block got cut out I guess, I see more and more new player like that, or even worse, makes Deus Esca harder then it actually is, and the impact is non expert block got lower EQs especially "Deus Esca" complete rate then the expert block, so sega remove it thus make other block EQs complete rate higher

[[Ayumi]]

thats one of the reason export block got cut out I guess, I see more and more new player like that, or even worse, makes Deus Esca harder then it actually is, and the impact is non expert block got lower EQs especially "Deus Esca" complete rate then the expert block, so sega remove it thus make other block EQs complete rate higher

Which still annoys me.
If you certain people can't beat certain things, they can do another quest.

I couldn't solo XQ at first, but didn't bitch that it needed nerfing. When I got good enough, I beat the first 5 floors.. then a few more until I decided to take a break from it.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

- Hr is quite good, it might have highest damage but it also easiest to die, beside need 3 classes at 75, who want normal class to unlock with those requirements. if it get nerf I believe the requirements also get nerf too

I'm not seeing how it dies easy.
My use of fornis sword aside, the generous I frames from step, and days-long omnidirectional(?) guard frames on a PA feels like a very solid defense.
Access to resta, which still heals for ~260 a tick uncharged with a good craft/stats, megiverse, a weapon that barely needs PP to kill anything (or the other weapon that recovers pp at orbit-speeds) is icing on the cake.

Sure there's no automate, and hero will is once a quest, but why are people saying hero dies easy?

[reinforcers]

Sure there's no automate, and hero will is once a quest, but why are people saying hero dies easy?

yes, it has alot of evasion and access to tech, but still, lower defense and HP. it shouldnt be problem right? well, most of player I know play hero came from non-tech and mostly depend on high HP so they most likely dont touch those tech also less likely to evade, so that the term "hero dies easy" came from

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

yes, it has alot of evasion and access to tech, but still, lower defense and HP. it shouldnt be problem right? well, most of player I know play hero came from non-tech and mostly depend on high HP so they most likely dont touch those tech also less likely to evade, so that the term "hero dies easy" came from

Actually, Hr at 80 looks like it will have similar stats to an 80/80 Br/Hu. Sure, it's not as bulky as a Hu mainclass, or the HP-affixing Fis who like it for their LB, but I find it's durable enough without needing to focus too much on HP.

Then again, I use austere 2-set with union leg which is great for raw stats with 265hp iirc on top without needing to affix HP (which I don't).

As for people who don't get familiar with support techs at all, just... ugh. I'm not sure what to say to that. Granted, I had 75 levels (and lots of TD) as Te , as well as way more time than I should have ever invested on Bo (screw that class), but regardless, people should know what anti, resta, and megiverse are in the process of unlocking Hr.

Side question: Not like it matters as much since TEs are an endangered species, but what still works for zanverse out of wind masteries/other skills, weapon potentials, and CT? None of the above? Anything at all? Or are all zanverses made equal now?

[final_attack]

Side question: Not like it matters as much since TEs are an endangered species, but what still works for zanverse out of wind masteries/other skills, weapon potentials, and CT? None of the above? Anything at all? Or are all zanverses made equal now?

Nope, no other boost affect Zanverse now. All Zanverse is the same.

[Kondibon]

I'm not seeing how it dies easy.
My use of fornis sword aside, the generous I frames from step, and days-long omnidirectional(?) guard frames on a PA feels like a very solid defense.
Access to resta, which still heals for ~260 a tick uncharged with a good craft/stats, megiverse, a weapon that barely needs PP to kill anything (or the other weapon that recovers pp at orbit-speeds) is icing on the cake.

Sure there's no automate, and hero will is once a quest, but why are people saying hero dies easy?It lacks a lot of passive defenses like automate, or a "panic button" like katana combat. Even if you spam uncharged brightness end, there's a much longer gap between the i-frames than say deadly circle-0, or gran wave.

It's not that the class has bad survivability, just that you have to actually pay attention to use it and it can't help you mid animation, even if you have hyper armor. People just haven't gotten used to it yet.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

It lacks a lot of passive defenses like automate, or a "panic button" like katana combat. Even if you spam uncharged brightness end, there's a much longer gap between the i-frames than say deadly circle-0, or gran wave.

It's not that the class has bad survivability, just that you have to actually pay attention to use it and it can't help you mid animation, even if you have hyper armor. People just haven't gotten used to it yet.

In some ways, it feels like a step up to me.
Sure, I played Br/Hu with automate, but since I never really abused it, or KC as a crutch outside of Phaleg, or solo PDankness, brightness end guard frames, and the generous step I-frames feels like an improvement when I don't need to cheese.

[Kondibon]

In some ways, it feels like a step up to me.
Sure, I played Br/Hu with automate, but since I never really abused it, or KC as a crutch outside of Phaleg, or solo PDankness, brightness end guard frames, and the generous step I-frames feels like an improvement when I don't need to cheese.Yeah, like I said, it's people who aren't used to it who are dying a lot. Though I imagine you have more hp than your average hero simply due to your units. I think most people sit at like 900-1k An extra 200-300 hp goes a LONG way in how easy it is to survive in that hp range.

[[Ayumi]]

In some ways, it feels like a step up to me.
Sure, I played Br/Hu with automate, but since I never really abused it, or KC as a crutch outside of Phaleg, or solo PDankness, brightness end guard frames, and the generous step I-frames feels like an improvement when I don't need to cheese.

I used to abuse the hell out of it when I realized I didn't have to worry unless I was under the 50% mark.
But I came from playing all classes so I was also used to watching my HP on classes like Fo and Bo where I did have my Resta and such.

I can say that I used to have an on and off relationship with my Duman though as I could never find the right class for her that I wanted as I wanted a fighting class with techs. Which in the end I decided to roll with Bouncer, but wasn't quite liking it on her... until Hero came around.
Completely forgot that Dumans were kind of set to be the glass cannon to begin with so with that and how Hero's HP and DEF is, I was not prepared at all as when I played it on my Human so in the beginning I did die quite a bit when I thought attacks I would survive... I wasn't.

By the time of course she became 80, I wasn't having that problem anymore as I knew what to watch out for on her.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Yeah, like I said, it's people who aren't used to it who are dying a lot. Though I imagine you have more hp than your average hero simply due to your units. I think most people sit at like 900-1k An extra 200-300 hp goes a LONG way in how easy it is to survive in that hp range.

That's how much HP I have WITH those units :p
Newearl problems.

[reinforcers]

Actually, Hr at 80 looks like it will have similar stats to an 80/80 Br/Hu. Sure, it's not as bulky as a Hu mainclass, or the HP-affixing Fis who like it for their LB, but I find it's durable enough without needing to focus too much on HP.

Then again, I use austere 2-set with union leg which is great for raw stats with 265hp iirc on top without needing to affix HP (which I don't).

As for people who don't get familiar with support techs at all, just... ugh. I'm not sure what to say to that. Granted, I had 75 levels (and lots of TD) as Te , as well as way more time than I should have ever invested on Bo (screw that class), but regardless, people should know what anti, resta, and megiverse are in the process of unlocking Hr.

well yes, there is way to cover lack of defense and HP on Hero. but my point is not the equipment side of the class but the skill that it already have plus it doesnt have sub so the only to cover lack of defense and HP is by equipment affixing, and its not that cheap. for those who already learn to get or already have good units, its fine, and the rest of them? still, die easily. my point is not taking the "easy to die" literally, except if the player do nothing for it HP and defense, completely go for all attack .... which alot of those players do, hell they even done it to Br, no counter or blocking just all attack

is not about knowing those Technique. of course they do. the problem is getting use to it. some of them not use to do Technique, why? instead of Fo or Te they unlock it with Su, which is simply rise Pet and do the attack for you (I know it is not that simple actually but for leveling to 75 that is easy enough)

[oratank]

that sword switching to tmg pa is completely i-frame learn to use it if you can't dodge

[ralf542]

41281


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtNGWKanbyg

[Sizustar]

Luthor's outfit~~ That inner....
http://i.imgur.com/yVmCGjw.jpg

[final_attack]

Luthor's outfit~~ That inner....

Glorious Royal panties !! LOL
Still ..... what kind of panties is that .-.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

any pictures of Alis' layerwear?

[Sizustar]

any pictures of Alis' layerwear?

This person?
http://i.imgur.com/rmR79zr.jpg

But you guys should get the full video no the 8/5 live broadcast, I think?


Glorious Royal panties !! LOL
Still ..... what kind of panties is that .-.

DF Loser underwear?

[Altiea]

This person?
http://i.imgur.com/rmR79zr.jpg

But you guys should get the full video no the 8/5 live broadcast, I think?



DF Loser underwear?

That's Harriet. They meant Alis (アリサ).

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

This person?
http://i.imgur.com/rmR79zr.jpg

Not her, but I guess I assumed they'd release Alis' if they were releasing Loser's already.

[SteveCZ]

Wait..................... that's.... base? :-o

pretty sure they mean inner and base instead of base and outer though .. (sad)

[[Ayumi]]

Wait..................... that's.... base? :-o

pretty sure they mean inner and base instead of base and outer though .. (sad)

I just noticed that too.
So I guess while not in battle, she walks around like that.

Just saw you edited, but nah. I'm sure they didn't mess up there and it's base.

[Sizustar]

http://i.imgur.com/WgtvrtN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OV9NO3c.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eoIzgYO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9Il2rgU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JUgF6DG.jpg

[Tymek]

http://i.imgur.com/OV9NO3c.jpg


YES! The Hero Camo! Finally!
It's name is *Lux Frieden.

[KazukiQZ]

^And apparently it's story related reward? If yes, that would be awesome.

[Tymek]

^And apparently it's story related reward? If yes, that would be awesome.
Yes, it's part of the New Story Quest Campaign. You need to clear the story up to a certain point!

[ralf542]

http://bumped.org/psublog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Harriet-Outfit.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JUgF6DG.jpg

Too lewd must buy.

[TehCubey]

Too lewd must buy.

Luther, err I mean Mysterious Man's underwear is even lewder.

[oratank]

presented by omegalia's secret

[AirinMikune]

Advance classes huh...

Ep 6 = Melee oriented advance class
Ep 7 = Range oriented
Ep 8 = Tech oriented
Ep 9 = Advance Summoner (2 pets, AI controlled)
Ep 10 = Savior (advanced hero that can use subclass and every weapon)

[Superia]

;3429165']I just noticed that too.
So I guess while not in battle, she walks around like that.

Just saw you edited, but nah. I'm sure they didn't mess up there and it's base.

Ya think so? That would be (one of?) the only OU to add shoes then right?

[Sizustar]

Here's the next update video
https://twitter.com/kami_pepe/status/893817612248899584

[Tymek]

http://bumped.org/psublog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Alisa-Outfit.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGeiX4FXkAAOyif.png

[loafhero]

^ Generation I Alis still looks better... and ugh, what's with that one stocking style?

[oratank]

from trailer that stocking is in inner section so our base are safe from that

[ralf542]

Here's the next update video
https://twitter.com/kami_pepe/status/893817612248899584

Damn, I wanted the white hair newman♀ lewd pants as [Ba] and the top as [Ou], the brown hair newman♀ underwear gloves look bad too. SEGA ruined both

[yoshiblue]

http://i.imgur.com/gptim5W.png

[[Ayumi]]

http://bumped.org/psublog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Alisa-Outfit.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGeiX4FXkAAOyif.png

So she went from being prepared for battle in her armour and looking badass to... a whore with one stocking on.

No no it's fine. Keep your stomach exposed. Much better to jam a saber in there and put you out of your misery.

[Maulcun]

New Updade video from ARKS PSO2 Live! (By kami_pepe)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_cwXDq7ykKxcjBKQnF5VEpUaWc/view

[Tymek]

Damn, I wanted the white hair newman♀ lewd pants as [Ba] and the top as [Ou], the brown hair newman♀ underwear gloves look bad too. SEGA ruined both

Oh, you can't have your lewd costume? Boo hoo. :/


New Updade video from ARKS PSO2 Live! (By kami_pepe)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_cwXDq7ykKxcjBKQnF5VEpUaWc/view


Thank you for sharing the full verson with us!

[Altiea]

;3429595']So she went from being prepared for battle in her armour and looking badass to... a whore with one stocking on.

No no it's fine. Keep your stomach exposed. Much better to jam a saber in there and put you out of your misery.

So do you just hate like, 98% of the female costumes in this game?

[ralf542]

Oh, you can't have your lewd costume? Boo hoo. :/
I can. But others won't see it.

[[Ayumi]]

So do you just hate like, 98% of the female costumes in this game?

Um, why do you think I have a really really reaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard time to get clothes and usually only buy something once every few months... if at all?

[ZerotakerZX]

;3429607']Um, why do you think I have a really really reaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard time to get clothes and usually only buy something once every few months... if at all?

If only this problem affected just this game. But its 98% outfits in 98% games.

[[Ayumi]]

If only this problem affected just this game. But its 98% outfits in 98% games.

Didn't have the problem in PSP2/i or PSU.
Hell even PSO where I was RAmarl or PS0 as a HUmarl (because I didn't like how RAmarls looked)

[blkbox11]

So do you just hate like, 98% of the female costumes in this game?

This person has been here complaining about outfits that aren't sensible, practical or both for years.

[otakun]

;3429607']Um, why do you think I have a really really reaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard time to get clothes and usually only buy something once every few months... if at all?

Sounds like a personal problem. Would suggest if you don't want a sexy character to play a guy. Pretty simple.

[Kondibon]

Sounds like a personal problem. Would suggest if you don't want a sexy character to play a guy. Pretty simple.That's a pretty dumb way of looking at it.

EDIT: To elaborate, Ayumi's complaint is that she doesn't like the majority of female outfits. Telling her to play a male character doesn't solve that problem.

[otakun]

That's a pretty dumb way of looking at it.

EDIT: To elaborate, Ayumi's complaint is that she doesn't like the majority of female outfits. Telling her to play a male character doesn't solve that problem.

No, dumb is complaining about how a game that you're technically not even allowed to be playing doesn't cater to your personal interests. But, yeah, forget that whole thing cause we aren't being openly punished for it. If the sexy outfits didn't sell then Sega wouldn't bother to make them. They cater to their audience, not a random foreigner which should be looking onto how to get over their problem.

[Kondibon]

If the sexy outfits didn't sell then Sega wouldn't bother to make them.I guess I'm just projecting, because ultimately that's what I see as the problem. Doing that sort of thing just because it's easy money is pretty scummy. Target audience be damned.

I'm not one to talk though, because I like cute shit, and people here complain about that too, so whatever.

[otakun]

I guess I'm just projecting, because ultimately that's what I see as the problem. Doing that sort of thing just because it's easy money is pretty scummy. Target audience be damned.

I'm not one to talk though, because I like cute shit, and people here complain about that too, so whatever.

Giving the audience what they want is scummy ... ? Kay ...

[Kondibon]

Giving the audience what they want is scummy ... ? Kay ...Abusing people's base desires as a priority over variety and artistic integrity to make more money is. :/

[otakun]

Abusing people's base desires as a priority over variety and artistic integrity to make more money is. :/

You mean like how they had MONTHS of casual non sexy clothing because they fit a more modern ascetic for episode 4? yeah man, how dare they give up that integrity ...

Also abusing the peoples base desires? are you high? if they were abusing it then we wouldn't have a non real money option to get the clothing.

[Kondibon]

You mean like how they had MONTHS of casual non sexy clothing because they fit a more modern ascetic for episode 4? yeah man, how dare they give up that integrity ...You know what. Fair enough. I'm not as picky as Ayumi anyway. I will say though, that I specifically don't like when there's a matching male and female set, like the knight armor coming out later, where the female version gets blatantly more "feminized" for no reason. I REALLY liked when they were making female some old clothing and cast part sets specifically because they at worst, contoured to the character's breasts a bit too much.
I'm also not a fan of Alis' outfit. I'm not well versed in old phantasy star stuff, but I can tell just by looking, that something closer to her original PS1 outfit would have worked fine, there was no reason to make it so skimpy.


if they were abusing it then we wouldn't have a non real money option to get the clothing.So? That doesn't make it ok.

[SteveCZ]

Mmm.. royal inner wears.. :blush:

[loafhero]

@otakun Sheesh, dude. Its just one person saying they don't like an outfit. No need to get so pissy.


If only this problem affected just this game. But its 98% outfits in 98% games.

Play more games, please.

[otakun]

You know what. Fair enough. I'm not as picky as Ayumi anyway. I will say though, that I specifically don't like when there's a matching male and female set, like the knight armor coming out later, where the female version gets blatantly more "feminized" for no reason. I REALLY liked when they were making female some old clothing and cast part sets specifically because they at worst, contoured to the character's breasts a bit too much.
I'm also not a fan of Alis' outfit. I'm not well versed in old phantasy star stuff, but I can tell just by looking, that something closer to her original PS1 outfit would have worked fine, there was no reason to make it so skimpy.

So? That doesn't make it ok.

No reason? The reason is people buy it. If people didn't want it they wouldn't buy it. It's the idea of playing out a fantasy. If you don't like it there are plenty of other options. Also, you can use the layered wear, body paint and accessory systems to contour a look more fitting to what you like using a skimpier basewear. You have more options then any other MMO, use them. If you want the big clunky male armor for females then send a request in. We have around a year of Episode 5 and you're already complaining at scratch 3 that females don't have big clunky armor. It can easy just be in the next scratch if people complain enough for all we know.

Also, yes, it does, cause abuse isn't a choice, this is. Wish people would not akin everything to abuse and exploitive when we have gaming companies doing far worse and demanding more money for it. Sega has spoiled their fanbase and yet these forums do nothing by cry. Sorry, if i don't rally behind such injustice such as "why can't I get what I want?". If it was up to me, we would have more crossdressing options for men but I hardly cry about it to the point of being known for it. lol


@otakun Sheesh, dude. Its just one person saying they don't like an outfit. No need to get so pissy.

Gez, man, I'm just one guy stating my opinion about how we have too many spoiled people who play this game on these forums which is a known fact to many of the members and yet whenever someone points it out they have someone jump on them about it. No need to get pissy.

See how that works?

[Kondibon]

you're already complaining at scratch 3 that females don't have big clunky armor.There have been plenty of opportunities for it, and like I said, it's not like they haven't done it before. I was using that as an example of something I considered a missed opportunity.

Either way, I don't think I care as much as you think I care.

EDIT: Also, don't talk about how you're just stating your opinion, then immediately act like other people are acting entitled for sharing an opinion that's different from yours.

[yoshiblue]

No, that's not how it works. You've been making an uproar deflecting everything with what is more or less "Deal with it", "Vote with your wallet then" and "Stop not liking what I like" statements. This hardly does anything for your spoiled people problem.

[[Ayumi]]

Sounds like a personal problem. Would suggest if you don't want a sexy character to play a guy. Pretty simple.

I do have a male character on an alt account. Problem is the outfits I want that are male only I don't really like on the male bodies. Not too much of a fan of that huge build the guys got (but yeah that's how guys are.. whatever.. lol).
I think they should just make all the outfits unisex like Saints Row.

Give men Luna Prophecy and just give me some decent pants. Don't care if the base shows breasts either as I already got the cafe cook underwear so no skin showing for me.


You mean like how they had MONTHS of casual non sexy clothing because they fit a more modern ascetic for episode 4? yeah man, how dare they give up that integrity ...

Also abusing the peoples base desires? are you high? if they were abusing it then we wouldn't have a non real money option to get the clothing.

Many of them had skirts way too high to begin with and I mainly want pants.

[Enforcer MKV]

;3429595']So she went from being prepared for battle in her armour and looking badass to... a whore with one stocking on.

No no it's fine. Keep your stomach exposed. Much better to jam a saber in there and put you out of your misery.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. At least we can throw the bulky tights on and still be covered. Doesn't excuse the lousy design, though.

[otakun]

No, that's not how it works. You've been making an uproar deflecting everything with what is more or less "Deal with it", "Vote with your wallet then" and "Stop not liking what I like" statements. This hardly does anything for your spoiled people problem.

I reply with peoples opinions with my own opinions and suggestions since I get bored easily here at work, not something I would consider an uproar. Also, I never once stated I liked what is not liked here so don't strawman the conversation, I am merely stating that complaining about it doesn't really help when the stuff being made isn't made for us and we technically aren't suppose to even be playing., The spoiled problem is that a lot that PSO2 offers did gets countless complaints here on PSOW when in any other game you wouldn't even have the options or if you do not as cheap/


There have been plenty of opportunities for it, and like I said, it's not like they haven't done it before. I was using that as an example of something I considered a missed opportunity.

Either way, I don't think I care as much as you think I care.

EDIT: Also, don't talk about how you're just stating your opinion, then immediately act like other people are acting entitled for sharing an opinion that's different from yours.

How is it a missed opportunity when there are still plenty more chances for it to happen? That doesn't make sense. Also, if you didn't care as much as I thought you did then you wouldn't be replying and I can easily state an opinion and also note that people complaining with entitlement at the same time. I think a lot of you have a skewed idea of my opinion since its pointing out when people act like they don't get what they want when in most cases they have. So, how is that not the same thing? I aint saying ZOMG YES BEST OUTFIT EVAR, I say, people buy it and it aint made for you.

[otakun]

;3429650']I do have a male character on an alt account. Problem is the outfits I want that are male only I don't really like on the male bodies. Not too much of a fan of that huge build the guys got (but yeah that's how guys are.. whatever.. lol).
I think they should just make all the outfits unisex like Saints Row.

Give men Luna Prophecy and just give me some decent pants. Don't care if the base shows breasts either as I already got the cafe cook underwear so no skin showing for me.



Many of them had skirts way too high to begin with and I mainly want pants.

well, how many pants you need? we have a handful of pants outfits for females where as men only have 1 skirt. Think you're on the winning side here. ;3

[[Ayumi]]

well, how many pants you need? we have a handful of pants outfits for females where as men only have 1 skirt. Think you're on the winning side here. ;3

Males have at least 5 of them if I recall off the top of my head.
There's a few maid ones, there was another schoolgirl I recall and one of the recents from my memory is the cathedral.

I think girls only have like 3 or 4 layered pants. The Cook, the one with the mechanical arm, and I can't remember the other. I think the MC Hammer looking one.

[Kondibon]

;3429654']Males have at least 5 of them if I recall off the top of my head.
There's a few maid ones, there was another schoolgirl I recall and one of the recents from my memory is the cathedral.As someone who has a trap character, the cathedral little is the only male base-wear with a skirt.

[otakun]

;3429654']Males have at least 5 of them if I recall off the top of my head.
There's a few maid ones, there was another schoolgirl I recall and one of the recents from my memory is the cathedral.

I think girls only have like 3 or 4 layered pants. The Cook, the one with the mechanical arm, and I can't remember the other. I think the MC Hammer looking one.

I would love for you to show me these 5 skirts cause I can assure you the only thing as far as an actual skirt men have are the cathedral one mentioned which I was and am still happy for and the horrible looking pastry outfit that only bad traps wear. Outside of that women have it far better in the pants department along with bodypaints to help cover areas.

[Kondibon]

I would love for you to show me these 5 skirts.
Well there's this. http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%83%AF%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3% 82%B7%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC
And this. http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%83%99%E3%83%AB%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3% 82%A2%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88M

But you're right, if we purely compare how many skirts male characters have to how many pants female characters have (and I mean actual pants, not just tiny shorts), then there's actually more pants for female characters, especially if we include non-layered wear.

[otakun]

Well there's this. http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%83%AF%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3% 82%B7%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC
And this. http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%83%99%E3%83%AB%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3% 82%A2%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88M

But you're right, if we purely compare how many skirts male characters have to how many pants female characters have (and I mean actual pants, not just tiny shorts), then there's actually more pants for female characters, especially if we include non-layered wear.

Well, if we going to be technical, outside of being Halloween outfits, the one is covered shorts, not a skirt and the other is a long coat/dress, not a skirt,

[[Ayumi]]

If only going by layered, the girls got this:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/F01uKoq.png
http://i.imgur.com/dzSeOVQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/PTzM2iz.png
http://i.imgur.com/7vaibUa.png
http://i.imgur.com/1v6nmYt.png
http://i.imgur.com/vmOQDjM.png
http://i.imgur.com/VNwQXzN.png
http://i.imgur.com/ObNaC3H.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

And the only ones that even work with most tops that isn't long sleeves are only:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/PTzM2iz.png
http://i.imgur.com/1v6nmYt.png[/SPOILER-BOX]
Might I add that one of them are fucking pajamas.

STOP! HAMMERTIME!
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/VNwQXzN.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[otakun]

;3429665']If only going by layered, the girls got this:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/F01uKoq.png
http://i.imgur.com/dzSeOVQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/PTzM2iz.png
http://i.imgur.com/7vaibUa.png
http://i.imgur.com/1v6nmYt.png
http://i.imgur.com/vmOQDjM.png
http://i.imgur.com/VNwQXzN.png
http://i.imgur.com/ObNaC3H.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

And the only ones that even work with most tops that isn't long sleeves are only:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/PTzM2iz.png
http://i.imgur.com/1v6nmYt.png[/SPOILER-BOX]
Might I add that one of them are fucking pajamas.

STOP! HAMMERTIME!
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/VNwQXzN.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

so 8 vs 1 thats still way better options.

[Altiea]

The Tapered Pants are a personal favorite of mine. I was baffled that they were so cheap.

[blkbox11]

No, dumb is complaining about how a game that you're technically not even allowed to be playing doesn't cater to your personal interests. But, yeah, forget that whole thing cause we aren't being openly punished for it. If the sexy outfits didn't sell then Sega wouldn't bother to make them. They cater to their audience, not a random foreigner which should be looking onto how to get over their problem.

I pretty much agree with this and the other things you've said. This doesn't just apply to fashion complaints, but also other stuff like the whole EP4 situation before.

This isn't a game made to officially support the English community and its set of standards which are clearly different from that of the Japanese playerbase.

Also, I'd like to add that PSO/PSU, etc, are history and gone, save for that one BB server I've heard about. PSO2 is a different game using some same terminology and the PS title. As much as people here miss those aesthetics and the game in general, it's not coming back.

[Great Pan]

D E G E N E R A T I O N

Does it hurt too much for having a fully armored female in this game? Slutty clothes are everywhere!

[otakun]

D E G E N E R A T I O N

Does it hurt too much for having a fully armored female in this game? Slutty clothes are everywhere!

play a knight rappy

[isCasted]

Oh hey, looks like someone is complaining about something. Time to direct them to SEGA support page! Come on, guys, let's do it!

[oratank]

D E G E N E R A T I O N

Does it hurt too much for having a fully armored female in this game? Slutty clothes are everywhere!

ever try caseal?

[Meteor Weapon]

isnt....WoW and the likes are the same?

[Arakasa]

ever try caseal?

the selection of female cast parts arent much better,even worse if your wanting them to not have huge back windows,torso windows and other random huge patches of bare skin,we have plenty enough of those Sega,please give us some legit bulky heavy armor female cast parts,or at least have body paint work for the 'skin' portions of cast parts so that we can at least pretend it isnt bare skin.

[Saelix]

ever try caseal?

Man I liked the Hero set for caseal and didn't realize that I just gave my character who I see as a child a boob window.

[ZerotakerZX]

the selection of female cast parts arent much better,even worse if your wanting them to not have huge back windows,torso windows and other random huge patches of bare skin,we have plenty enough of those Sega,please give us some legit bulky heavy armor female cast parts,or at least have body paint work for the 'skin' portions of cast parts so that we can at least pretend it isnt bare skin.Body paint patches all the unwanted windows with human attire tho. So many slutty wear became moddest with them applied.

Man I liked the Hero set for caseal and didn't realize that I just gave my character who I see as a child a boob window.

Mmm... robotic child boobies ;-)

[ralf542]

Harriet is a slut too, she is running around and showing her bra to everyone.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/asTpfsu.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
Could we get a 3rd Bodypaint option in the near future?

[SteveCZ]

Wait.......... that's a body paint...? So... without body paint.... and good idea on the inner... :blush:

[loafhero]

Harriet is a slut too, she is running around and showing her bra to everyone.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/asTpfsu.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
Could we get a 3rd Bodypaint option in the near future?

I'm starting to think Persona influenced the entire female population of Omega to subconsciously adopt Matoi's fashion sense.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Well this is weird; I'm like the one person that actually likes Alis' layerwear?
Are people with an appreciation of the combination low degree fanservice + fantasy armor that rare?

Maybe if some of you endured the castanic bikini plate armor of TERA you'd find Alis' armor modest enough to not bother you. Just go pick a different basewear.

I'm also loving the asymmetry on the outerwear, unlike that horrible piece of crap that took a spot from an actual decent costume last design contest (proving once and for all the people that SEGA that picks contest winners have no fking taste whatsoever).

[loafhero]

Well this is weird; I'm like the one person that actually likes Alis' layerwear?
Are people with an appreciation of the combination low degree fanservice + fantasy armor that rare?

Look, its fine if you like the outfit. Other don't for a good reason.

The big issue here that makes Alis's costume so controversial is (besides the horrific design) that its THE fucking Alis Landale. The 1st main protagonist of Phantasy Star. One of the earliest lead heroine in a video game. The one character in the franchise where offering just her perfectly fine classic attire as a layer wear could have led to high AC spendings from nostalgia manipulation alone. This isn't helped by the fact that newcomers Alma and Stratos have far less revealing and better designed outfits that fit their characters yet still manages to be popular with the players so soon after their debut in EP5.

If my non-existent respect for the devs wasn't low enough, that they disrespect the protagonist from the game that made way for PSO2 only makes me resent them even more.

And yes, TERA is worse in the pandering fan service department but the whole "it could be worse" isn't a particularly good defense.

[oratank]

alis base is fine i have no problem with girl showing her stuff if thing go wrong i can put cool bodysuit or shirt like inner on but i don't like one side stocking still it not the part of base so it good to go

[loafhero]

alis base is fine i have no problem with girl showing her stuff if thing go wrong i can put cool bodysuit or shirt like inner on but i don't like one side stocking still it not the part of base so it good to go

The problem here isn't necessarily how revealing Alis's clothes are. Its just that Alis's clothes is an example of fan service done wrong.

[oratank]

Look, its fine if you like the outfit. Other don't for a good reason.

The big issue here that makes Alis's costume so controversial is (besides the horrific design) that its THE fucking Alis Landale. The 1st main protagonist of Phantasy Star. One of the earliest lead heroine in a video game. The one character in the franchise where offering just her perfectly fine classic attire as a layer wear could have led to high AC spendings from nostalgia manipulation alone. This isn't helped by the fact that newcomers Alma and Stratos have far less revealing and better designed outfits that fit their characters yet still manages to be popular with the players so soon after their debut in EP5.

If my non-existent respect for the devs wasn't low enough, that they disrespect the protagonist from the game that made way for PSO2 only makes me resent them even more.

And yes, TERA is worse in the pandering fan service department but the whole "it could be worse" isn't a particularly good defense.

lol i pretty sure they will make it later but think about it if they give her classic costume now sega will only sold her once but with this strategy give her new outfit sega can sell both of them double cash cow

what a point for making classic character without a plan to sell their classic costume am i right?

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

And yes, TERA is worse in the pandering fan service department but the whole "it could be worse" isn't a particularly good defense.

I'm not exactly saying 'it could be worse'.
It's more like 'I'm numb to it', or 'you're overthinking it'.
I'd argue that objectively, It's really not as bad as you claim it is.

[Dragwind]

http://bumped.org/psublog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Alisa-Outfit.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGeiX4FXkAAOyif.png

It's a really different costume compared to the original Phantasy Star artwork and the remaster artwork. Legs actually seem more protected than the original, yet the torso is mere skimpy cloth while the original was elegant armor. This isn't consistent nor a very good throwback for the long time fans the way I see it. If I was going to actually use my female character, I'd want the costume as nod to Alis, but this doesn't seem very appropriate for a female warrior.

[ralf542]

The stocking is ok but the gloves are awful.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/Sz6aYbi.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[blkbox11]

Well this is weird; I'm like the one person that actually likes Alis' layerwear?
Are people with an appreciation of the combination low degree fanservice + fantasy armor that rare?

Maybe if some of you endured the castanic bikini plate armor of TERA you'd find Alis' armor modest enough to not bother you. Just go pick a different basewear.

I'm also loving the asymmetry on the outerwear, unlike that horrible piece of crap that took a spot from an actual decent costume last design contest (proving once and for all the people that SEGA that picks contest winners have no fking taste whatsoever).

Nah, it's only on these forums that such people seem rare. For instance, 4chan's PSO2 community seems to be more accepting of fanservice. I'm personally okay with the attire, and I'm actually not a fan of revealing outfits on my own character only because her body type doesn't make them look good.

That being said, this is another case of SEGA playing it safe with an audience they know. Alis' old outfit does look dated for a main character's by today's standards, despite how much people here clamor for it to be the way it was or close to that because it wasn't fanservicey. I'm sure the current layered wear is at least going to sell because of their revision to it.

So, just another example of them appeasing the people they made the game for, and not a community of foreigners who are really attached to their older games.

[oratank]

, yet the torso is mere skimpy cloth while the original was elegant armor.

how about put stratos ou on

[[Ayumi]]

the selection of female cast parts arent much better,even worse if your wanting them to not have huge back windows,torso windows and other random huge patches of bare skin,we have plenty enough of those Sega,please give us some legit bulky heavy armor female cast parts,or at least have body paint work for the 'skin' portions of cast parts so that we can at least pretend it isnt bare skin.


Man I liked the Hero set for caseal and didn't realize that I just gave my character who I see as a child a boob window.

I got it to work for mine, but they both wear the same outfits (minus the one extra on Fher):

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/90YOGev.png[/SPOILER-BOX]
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/ectzZIz.png[/SPOILER-BOX]
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/ubTxhAO.png[/SPOILER-BOX]


Harriet is a slut too, she is running around and showing her bra to everyone.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/asTpfsu.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
Could we get a 3rd Bodypaint option in the near future?

That's what you see as bad? She got her pands barely up. And there's no point to it too as with the whole outfit on you can't even see what she's showing off.
That has to be the most uncomfortable pair to wear while you're out in a battle when you're moving around so much.

Also I want a 3rd body paint option, a 3rd make-up because there's so many others I want to use other than the 2 I used forever, and a 5th accessory option.


Well this is weird; I'm like the one person that actually likes Alis' layerwear?
Are people with an appreciation of the combination low degree fanservice + fantasy armor that rare?

Maybe if some of you endured the castanic bikini plate armor of TERA you'd find Alis' armor modest enough to not bother you. Just go pick a different basewear.

I'm also loving the asymmetry on the outerwear, unlike that horrible piece of crap that took a spot from an actual decent costume last design contest (proving once and for all the people that SEGA that picks contest winners have no fking taste whatsoever).

I even went on the Tera forums once to ask on that because I mainly played range in these online games since PSO.... which seem to be on the sluttiest race in the game.
Asked around on is there a way to not look like a slut on that character and they pretty said "nope you're good" and only shown tights that did cover skin but... that's it. Didn't bother with Tera after that.

[Superia]

Harriet is a slut too, she is running around and showing her bra to everyone.

Clothes do not make anyone a slut. Let's not let this get out of hand, since everybody knows the only slut in this game is Luther.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

The stocking is ok but the gloves are awful.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/Sz6aYbi.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

In the full outfit, you conveniently won't see much of either.


;3429748'

I even went on the Tera forums once to ask on that because I mainly played range in these online games since PSO.... which seem to be on the sluttiest race in the game.
Asked around on is there a way to not look like a slut on that character and they pretty said "nope you're good" and only shown tights that did cover skin but... that's it. Didn't bother with Tera after that.

If you don't want to look like a slut in TERA:

1: Don't be female castanic
2: Don't be female castanic as a 'heavy armor' class

That's pretty much it. TERA armor themes were very ingrained into race/gender combinations.

Human females were generally practical with slight fanservice like Alis' layerwear.
High elf females generally had more of a... I want to say regal aesthetic with a higher degree of fanservice than humans, but not Castanic-tier.
Elin; Kawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiii
Castanic well, you know... impractical bikini plate eye candy generally for heavy armors. Close fits, and slits otherwise. They basically are a race of sluts.

[ralf542]

In the full outfit, you conveniently won't see much of either.

What if I would like to use it with other [Ba] like Micro Mini Shorts, Boa Voir, Neighbor Quartz or without [Ba]?

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

What if I would like to use it with other [Ba] like Micro Mini Shorts, Boa Voir, Neighbor Quartz or without [Ba]?

You do notice that the stocking, and gloves are part of the innerwear, right?
You won't see inner 9/10 times unless you mod, so you can just use smart inner and your problems will go away.

[Renvalt]

The big issue here that makes Alis's costume so controversial is (besides the horrific design) that its THE fucking Alis Landale. The 1st main protagonist of Phantasy Star. One of the earliest lead heroine in a video game. The one character in the franchise where offering just her perfectly fine classic attire as a layer wear could have led to high AC spendings from nostalgia manipulation alone. This isn't helped by the fact that newcomers Alma and Stratos have far less revealing and better designed outfits that fit their characters yet still manages to be popular with the players so soon after their debut in EP5.

But at the same time, it's NOT Alis Landale. I mean, they'd have to come up with some kind of ACTUAL thread that ties into the plot of PS1 for it to be her. And last I checked, Alis was a Human, not a pointy-eared space elf (AKA Newman). That immediately tells you it's not the same character (unless they totally remake PS1 and change her race there too; then I'll take what I said back).

That having been said though, if this is how they treat their not-nostalgia character from game 1... I'm actually interested (and slightly frightened) to know if and how they're going to treat the characters of the other games (maybe this'll be the Episode where I laugh insultingly at how much your nostalgia blinds you to the fact that your beloved Nei/Neifirst dressed like a motherf'ing slut).


I'm also loving the asymmetry on the outerwear, unlike that horrible piece of crap that took a spot from an actual decent costume last design contest (proving once and for all the people that SEGA that picks contest winners have no fking taste whatsoever).

Remind me again, which outfit was this?


If you don't want to look like a slut in TERA:

1: Don't be female castanic
2: Don't be female castanic as a 'heavy armor' class

That's pretty much it. TERA armor themes were very ingrained into race/gender combinations.

Human females were generally practical with slight fanservice like Alis' layerwear.
High elf females generally had more of a... I want to say regal aesthetic with a higher degree of fanservice than humans, but not Castanic-tier.
Elin; Kawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiii
Castanic well, you know... impractical bikini plate eye candy generally for heavy armors. Close fits, and slits otherwise. They basically are a race of sluts.

That's weird - I thought the Elins were the ones that were constantly getting thrown into situations where they got fucked on a regular basis (and by all manner of crazy bullshit too).


Harriet is a slut too, she is running around and showing her bra to everyone.
Could we get a 3rd Bodypaint option in the near future?

And people told me I was wrong when I said Harriet was an alternate version of Aurora. I mean, c'mon - other than the total personality inversion, she's hitting every other mark on the list of comparisons.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Remind me again, which outfit was this?


There's not many outfits that outright draw my ire. Most outfits I can appreciate/respect them for what they are, but I just don't use them.

THIS on the other hand, shouldn't have been a thing. This is asymmetry done wrong. Much of the comments on Swiki are about how weird, and terrible the footwear is, which is practically half of the outfit.

[SPOILER-BOX]http://image.swiki.jp/img1/?host=pso2&page=%E7%BE%85%E5%88%B9%E8%A3%85%E5%A8%81&src=%E7%BE%85%E5%88%B9%E8%A3%85%E5%A8%81%E3%82%A4% E3%83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

AND it was chosen over THIS the same year.
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://pso2.jp/players/event/4th_aor/itemdesigncontest2016/nominate/costume/image/ss_l_083.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I love asymmetrical outfits, but you either do asymmetry right, or you don't do it at all imo.



That's weird - I thought the Elins were the ones that were constantly getting thrown into situations where they got fucked on a regular basis (and by all manner of crazy bullshit too).

Only in dojinshi I shall not speak of.

[ZerotakerZX]

TAND it was chosen over THIS the same year..

No taste at all with these ppl, right?

[Renvalt]

There's not many outfits that outright draw my ire. Most outfits I can appreciate/respect them for what they are, but I just don't use them.

THIS on the other hand, shouldn't have been a thing. This is asymmetry done wrong. Much of the comments on Swiki are about how weird, and terrible the footwear is, which is practically half of the outfit.

[SPOILER-BOX]http://image.swiki.jp/img1/?host=pso2&page=%E7%BE%85%E5%88%B9%E8%A3%85%E5%A8%81&src=%E7%BE%85%E5%88%B9%E8%A3%85%E5%A8%81%E3%82%A4% E3%83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

AND it was chosen over THIS the same year.
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://pso2.jp/players/event/4th_aor/itemdesigncontest2016/nominate/costume/image/ss_l_083.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I love asymmetrical outfits, but you either do asymmetry right, or you don't do it at all imo.

To be fucking honest, I actually agree with you on this. I actually thought that outfit was extremely well designed - if it had been released, I might've bothered making a female character.

Everything with the first outfit wasn't bad above the waistline (except the asymmetry on that armor - at least a skintight glove if anything, ya damn fools) - below that is where I start having issues.


Only in dojinshi I shall not speak of.

Well, I mean, I'VE never seen a Female Castanic getting screwed. Maybe it's because they just look so much like generic ass succubus bitches that I might've... glossed over them a bit? As in, y'know, been completely oblivious to the fact that they existed at all?

[[Ayumi]]

Nah, it's only on these forums that such people seem rare. For instance, 4chan's PSO2 community seems to be more accepting of fanservice. I'm personally okay with the attire, and I'm actually not a fan of revealing outfits on my own character only because her body type doesn't make them look good.

That being said, this is another case of SEGA playing it safe with an audience they know. Alis' old outfit does look dated for a main character's by today's standards, despite how much people here clamor for it to be the way it was or close to that because it wasn't fanservicey. I'm sure the current layered wear is at least going to sell because of their revision to it.

So, just another example of them appeasing the people they made the game for, and not a community of foreigners who are really attached to their older games.

I really don't care for fanservice as I usually just ignore it. Just wish there was a balance between the two.
Like the fan service character I just pretty much ignore.

I think the only characters I like from the very beginning of seeing them up to now is Lisa, Aki, Casra, Maria, Regius, Gettemhart, Tea, Afin, Katori, Revelle.
Hated Clarissa at 1st, liked her in EP3, hate her EP4 outfit (never played EP4 but I've seen the scratch). Same for Sarah.
Started hating Echo by EP2.

I think that's about it.


In the full outfit, you conveniently won't see much of either.



If you don't want to look like a slut in TERA:

1: Don't be female castanic
2: Don't be female castanic as a 'heavy armor' class

That's pretty much it. TERA armor themes were very ingrained into race/gender combinations.

Human females were generally practical with slight fanservice like Alis' layerwear.
High elf females generally had more of a... I want to say regal aesthetic with a higher degree of fanservice than humans, but not Castanic-tier.
Elin; Kawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiii
Castanic well, you know... impractical bikini plate eye candy generally for heavy armors. Close fits, and slits otherwise. They basically are a race of sluts.

Problem was the class was only interesting to me was castanic only so I just didn't bother with Tera because of that. Saw no point playing when the only class I was interested in was stuck on the slut.

There's not many outfits that outright draw my ire. Most outfits I can appreciate/respect them for what they are, but I just don't use them.

THIS on the other hand, shouldn't have been a thing. This is asymmetry done wrong. Much of the comments on Swiki are about how weird, and terrible the footwear is, which is practically half of the outfit.

[SPOILER-BOX]http://image.swiki.jp/img1/?host=pso2&page=%E7%BE%85%E5%88%B9%E8%A3%85%E5%A8%81&src=%E7%BE%85%E5%88%B9%E8%A3%85%E5%A8%81%E3%82%A4% E3%83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

AND it was chosen over THIS the same year.
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http://pso2.jp/players/event/4th_aor/itemdesigncontest2016/nominate/costume/image/ss_l_083.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I love asymmetrical outfits, but you either do asymmetry right, or you don't do it at all imo.



Only in dojinshi I shall not speak of.

Because it shows white panties. That's why.

[Great Pan]

ever try caseal?

Dude, I'm a Caseal. A full metal one.

[oratank]

good then those smooth skin fashion shouldn't bothering you because we are already full metal

[blkbox11]

;3429785']I really don't care for fanservice as I usually just ignore it. Just wish there was a balance between the two.


This is the wrong game to look for that balance in because it's not made for the sensibilities and taste of people in this forum, is what I'm saying. From the beginning, PSO2 was a fanservice waifu simulator with a tacked on flashy action gameplay style - it's not the old PSO, PSU, or even the PSP games. I mean, you've played for years, so surely you've noticed the vast difference in how it's marketed as well.

That being said, if this were PSO2NA and SEGA of America were in charge of seeing which outfits got through? Then yeah, I'd understand your complaints.

[loafhero]

(maybe this'll be the Episode where I laugh insultingly at how much your nostalgia blinds you to the fact that your beloved Nei/Neifirst dressed like a motherf'ing slut).

They should have used Nei and not Alis then because (aside from the having elf ears to begin with) Nei's old look would fit in with PSO2 but even then, they'd probably fuck that up too with horrible asymmetry and over designing.

Its like the devs never heard the term "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[[Ayumi]]

This is the wrong game to look for that balance in because it's not made for the sensibilities and taste of people in this forum, is what I'm saying. From the beginning, PSO2 was a fanservice waifu simulator with a tacked on flashy action gameplay style - it's not the old PSO, PSU, or even the PSP games. I mean, you've played for years, so surely you've noticed the vast difference in how it's marketed as well.

That being said, if this were PSO2NA and SEGA of America were in charge of seeing which outfits got through? Then yeah, I'd understand your complaints.

From the beginning? The starting outfits only have 2 "fanservice" outfits. And that's just stretching it as there is pretty much only one
the HUnewearl one and maybe the RAmarl one as they kind of have the skin showing near the inner legs for no apparent reason.

Other than that the other outfits were "normal"

Also if this was NA, they would just remove 90% of the game. Doesn't need to even be clothes.
I don't have a problem seeing it if that's what you mean as NA won't make their own content.

[blkbox11]

;3429849']From the beginning? The starting outfits only have 2 "fanservice" outfits. And that's just stretching it as there is pretty much only one
the HUnewearl one and maybe the RAmarl one as they kind of have the skin showing near the inner legs for no apparent reason.

Other than that the other outfits were "normal"

Also if this was NA, they would just remove 90% of the game. Doesn't need to even be clothes.
I don't have a problem seeing it if that's what you mean as NA won't make their own content.

Yes, from the beginning. The outfits might not have been as lewd as today's, but people were showing off their waifus and such due to the amount of customization there was even in the early days. SEGA was quick to pick up on that and added more of what these players wanted, because they spend the most on the game. That's how it's been ever since, and it's been that way for years.

I also don't mean a problem with seeing it, but a problem with wanting it to be balanced between fanservice and non-fanservice when it never was meant to be. If anything, they gave some people the wrong impression by not going for the skimpy stuff off the bat.

[[Ayumi]]

Yes, from the beginning. The outfits might not have been as lewd as today's, but people were showing off their waifus and such due to the amount of customization there was even in the early days. SEGA was quick to pick up on that and added more of what these players wanted, because they spend the most on the game. That's how it's been ever since, and it's been that way for years.

I also don't mean a problem with seeing it, but a problem with wanting it to be balanced between fanservice and non-fanservice when it never was meant to be. If anything, they gave some people the wrong impression by not going for the skimpy stuff off the bat.

I literally don't remember it being bad at all in the beginning one bit and I played since the beta.
Even the 1st santa outfits were nice until the ones the year after and after that literally made the skirt the actual height to where the crotch end.
And like I said they wouldn't balance anything as NA won't make original content.

[blkbox11]

;3429855']I literally don't remember it being bad at all in the beginning one bit and I played since the beta.
Even the 1st santa outfits were nice until the ones the year after and after that literally made the skirt the actual height to where the crotch end.
And like I said they wouldn't balance anything as NA won't make original content.

I was in the game since Beta as well, but only joined PSO-W several months later, because I didn't know this place existed.

Maybe it's just this forum that never took the waifuing to the extent of what I saw elsewhere, but it was the most notable thing about PSO2 even back then, especially among the Japanese. The moniker of 'Waifu Simulator Online 2' was around for as long as I can remember.

I don't mean the outfit designs - they were more modest at first, yes - but the fact that the game was being used for a purpose that more or less told everyone the direction it was going to go. That's why I'm not surprised or bothered by all the revealing designs.

The thing about NA was really just a best case scenario thing though, my bad for the terrible wording. I meant it in the way that if we were currently all playing PSO2NA, and if SEGA of A actually ran it (properly) at the same pace as the JP servers, with its own content or ability to adjust outfits. In that case, if there was still too much fanservice, then yeah, they should tone it down, because the West is more touchy about this stuff.

[[Ayumi]]

I was in the game since Beta as well, but only joined PSO-W several months later, because I didn't know this place existed.

Maybe it's just this forum that never took the waifuing to the extent of what I saw elsewhere, but it was the most notable thing about PSO2 even back then, especially among the Japanese. The moniker of 'Waifu Simulator Online 2' was around for as long as I can remember.

I don't mean the outfit designs - they were more modest at first, yes - but the fact that the game was being used for a purpose that more or less told everyone the direction it was going to go. That's why I'm not surprised or bothered by all the revealing designs.

The thing about NA was really just a best case scenario thing though, my bad for the terrible wording. I meant it in the way that if we were currently all playing PSO2NA, and if SEGA of A actually ran it (properly) at the same pace as the JP servers, with its own content or ability to adjust outfits. In that case, if there was still too much fanservice, then yeah, they should tone it down, because the West is more touchy about this stuff.

Yeah, I've been on this board since PSO2, despite my account was made in 2012 (used to co-op use an account with my brother and sister).

But this part:
The thing about NA was really just a best case scenario thing though, my bad for the terrible wording. I meant it in the way that if we were currently all playing PSO2NA, and if SEGA of A actually ran it (properly) at the same pace as the JP servers, with its own content or ability to adjust outfits. In that case, if there was still too much fanservice, then yeah, they should tone it down, because the West is more touchy about this stuff.

PSO, PSU, and even PSP1 and 2 their idea is "remove content to never release" there's no best case scenario.
I rather get all the content and nothing removed.

The only good side in all the fanservice nonsense is I save my money because most of the stuff I want "usually" is cheaper than others (usually because black still the most expensive colour to usually fucking get) and I never buy a single lobby action.

I really feel sorry for people aiming for that stripper pole. I really do.
People will have to put their My Room on mortgage to afford that shit.

[blkbox11]

That's fair enough.


;3429866']PSO, PSU, and even PSP1 and 2 their idea is "remove content to never release" there's no best case scenario.
I rather get all the content and nothing removed.

I know. It's a super unbelievable situation, even for a hypothetical one. Just explaining what I meant.

[isCasted]

I think asymmetrical socks look stupid with any costume that doesn't deliberately try to look wild/crazy.

[TakemiShinnosuke]

given the deus trigger.. would that be 80/80 as well ?? and would that mean there would be better stuff than what deus quest is offering in terms of the zen and qliphad units??
Other than weapons cause there's 14*

[Altiea]

given the deus trigger.. would that be 80/80 as well ?? and would that mean there would be better stuff than what deus quest is offering in terms of the zen and qliphad units??
Other than weapons cause there's 14*

Not really. It's literally the same Quest, but as something you can turn on any time as opposed to something you have to wait for. There's no difference between the Trigger and the normal Quest aside from maybe an RDR bonus.

[TakemiShinnosuke]

Not really. It's literally the same Quest, but as something you can turn on any time as opposed to something you have to wait for. There's no difference between the Trigger and the normal Quest aside from maybe an RDR bonus.

Thats great .. finally something for both casuals and hardcore... this is how stuff should be done

edit: saves everyone time too.. do not have to wait daily for a deus..

[Altiea]

Thats great .. finally something for both casuals and hardcore... this is how stuff should be done

edit: saves everyone time too.. do not have to wait daily for a deus..

So are we going to ignore the part where it costs Star Gems to actually buy these things?

[TakemiShinnosuke]

So are we going to ignore the part where it costs Star Gems to actually buy these things?

star gems can be farmed lol ... casino and battle arena

edit: login stamps too

[Arada]

star gems can be farmed lol ... casino and battle arena

edit: login stamps too

Having a male character changing outerwear before going to sleep.

[ralf542]

star gems can be farmed lol ... casino and battle arena

edit: login stamps too

40SG for 11200CC and 100SG for 3000BC, 10SG every 5th day from login stamp, farm, lol.

[TakemiShinnosuke]

40SG for 11200CC and 100SG for 3000BC, 10SG every 5th day from login stamp, farm, lol.

at least its better than 0 lol

[ralf542]

Clothes do not make anyone a slut. Let's not let this get out of hand, since everybody knows the only slut in this game is Luther.

Sure dude. But could you tell me how Matoi looks in this picture?
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/vG3zBPn.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Poyonche]

Sure dude. But could you tell me how Matoi looks in this picture?
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/vG3zBPn.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

Black

[yoshiblue]

Tribal using modern methods to make their clothes.

[Calsetes]

Personally, I'd like to see a female version of whatever outfit males have that looks like a modern-day ballistics suit. You know, the one that people use with the scarf-thing that makes them look like Solid Snake.

I'd buy two of those tickets and use them on at least two, if not three of my female characters. And totally on my main's support partner.

[Rayden]

What's up with the thread title? I don't remember it being that before.

[Tymek]

What's up with the thread title? I don't remember it being that before.

Yeah, I was about to say the same thing. That...does not look good.

[Superia]

Sure dude. But could you tell me how Matoi looks in this picture?
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/vG3zBPn.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

Bad. Get the hell outta here with that.

[[Ayumi]]

Sure dude. But could you tell me how Matoi looks in this picture?
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/vG3zBPn.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

Scary. Very scary. Mainly due to the tanlines.