PSA: JB Gear / Wand E Change Stealth Buff

[Altiea]

Jet Boots Gear and L/Wand Elemental Change is now compatible with the following Skills/Potentials:

-- Elemental Conversion
-- Elemental PP Restorate Field
-- R/EPPR Field
-- Ancient Oath
-- Discerning Eye
-- New Type Oath
-- Attribute Tracking - Fire/Lightning
-- Attribute Tracking - Fire/Wind

[Kondibon]

I didn't even know element PP field didn't work with them. That's nice.

[Tyroki]

How IS Fo/Bo anyway?

[DavidAG]

And still cant use zanverse/zondeel/megiverse without changing element...? Ugh

[Kondibon]

How IS Fo/Bo anyway?Pretty sure Fo/Su would just be better all around.

EDIT: The elemental conversion change is honestly the least useful thing on this list.

[Altiea]

How IS Fo/Bo anyway?

FO/BO is pretty janky, as far as I can tell... You give up a lot of versatility from having TE sub (meaning you aren't doing jack squat with Wind/Light/Dark Techs) as well as the Shifta/Deband bonuses, and you trade a lot of natural PP regen for active PP regen instead. Its multis are also straight up outclassed by FO/FI, and getting any mileage out of the sub outside of Elemental Stance requires tracking down a hard-to-acquire weapon from another game (Placis Arion) that is largely outclassed by your main weapons. However, having said weapon comes with its own benefits, such as being universally compatible with both Elemental Stance and Element Conversion (after the buff), being able to infinitely sustain Shifta and Deband, being able to fast-cast Zanverse, having access to Rapid Boost to halve Tech cast times, and having access to L/JBTASC to halve them again (effectively reducing cast times to 1/4).

TL;DR: You give up too much to get back too little.

[Arakasa]

so would this mean that using the wand element ring would let you get the benefits of the fornis wand pot regardless of element of the weapon? (providing of course youve charged a tech to get the want to the proper element matching the elemental weakness of the enemy of course)

[Altiea]

so would this mean that using the wand element ring would let you get the benefits of the fornis wand pot regardless of element of the weapon? (providing of course youve charged a tech to get the want to the proper element matching the elemental weakness of the enemy of course)

That's exactly what it means.

[Arakasa]

That's exactly what it means.

dangit,and after all that effort i went through to get 4 different element fornis wands :U oh well,guess ill have a +35 one for sure now at least after combining them

[Tyroki]

FO/BO is pretty janky, as far as I can tell... You give up a lot of versatility from having TE sub (meaning you aren't doing jack squat with Wind/Light/Dark Techs) as well as the Shifta/Deband bonuses, and you trade a lot of natural PP regen for active PP regen instead. Its multis are also straight up outclassed by FO/FI, and getting any mileage out of the sub outside of Elemental Stance requires tracking down a hard-to-acquire weapon from another game (Placis Arion) that is largely outclassed by your main weapons. However, having said weapon comes with its own benefits, such as being universally compatible with both Elemental Stance and Element Conversion (after the buff), being able to infinitely sustain Shifta and Deband, being able to fast-cast Zanverse, having access to Rapid Boost to halve Tech cast times, and having access to L/JBTASC to halve them again (effectively reducing cast times to 1/4).

TL;DR: You give up too much to get back too little.

Read the whole thing. Thanks for the overview.
Interesting. Force is my main, so I'll keep it as Fo/Te.
But I didn't know Rapid Boost halved tech cast times. And that ring...
WELP! Guess I'm about to have a LOT more fun with my Bo/Fi :D

I've been wanting to essentially chaingun techs for a looong time.

[ZerotakerZX]

They weren't before? Damn Sega

[Terrence]

And still cant use zanverse/zondeel/megiverse without changing element...? Ugh
It can be used anyway but it's a source of DPS loss indeed . It's quite annoying, so is the fact the changes made today to BOuncer's Skills won't make TE/BO more viable (and God knows I'd like it to be a thing with Heal Share + a 14✩ S4: 奪命の撃 Wand). And we're still waiting for the S4: 変素応輪 to be fixed.

[ArcaneTechs]

And still cant use zanverse/zondeel/megiverse without changing element...? Ugh
ive been wanting this since BO release, i dont understand why it hasnt happened already

[DavidAG]

It can be used anyway but it's a source of DPS loss indeed . It's quite annoying, so is the fact the changes made today to BOuncer's Skills won't make TE/BO more viable (and God knows I'd like it to be a thing with Heal Share + a 14✩ S4: 奪命の撃 Wand). And we're still waiting for the S4: 変素応輪 to be fixed.

Well heal share ring exists and its effect at +20 is exactly the same as the Bo skill, so you can make that happen already with any Te.

But I dont want Te/Bo to be a thing because of that, I want it to be a thing because jetboots + techs is a fun thing, also Bo has the best synergy for Techer with elemental related stuff, fields and mag

[Zorak000]

And we're still waiting for the S4: 変素応輪 to be fixed.

http://pso2.jp/players/support/measures/i_measures_20171220_1/ it sounds like they fixed it