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Date: October 30, 2018
Time: 21:00 ~ 23:00 JST

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Important Topics

Information about the november updates.
More informations about collaboration with Monster Hunter Frontier Z.
Information on new merchandising.
Information about a new collaboration.
Recap about Phantasic 3D Live 2018 (A Live 3DCG event where Quna and Matoi will dance and sing. http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/824/1824740/
Takuya Eguchi (CV: Pietro) will appear as a special guest.

NightlightPro
Sep 24, 2018, 03:45 PM
need to know more about that P4 collab

oratank
Sep 24, 2018, 07:05 PM
it's would be a school uniform like all the same of persona collab or this
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.gamerampage.net/uploads/2/9/5/3/29536417/2185238_orig.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Weaponslash
Sep 25, 2018, 01:59 AM
Can we get some news on how ot and nt austere will work?

ArcaneTechs
Sep 25, 2018, 02:24 AM
Can we get some news on how ot and nt austere will work?
-When they'll release Austere NT series & OT conversion list (we know the NT route already)
-When they'll announce Evleda Unit upgrade (probably in new raid now through mats akin to Nero and Caligula)
-When they'll announce the actual numbers of how EPD/Atra Pot/S4 will adjusted without being vague
-When they'll announce how Lumiere will buffed (based stats, pot buff???)

so much info needed, so little answers from them

Weaponslash
Sep 25, 2018, 03:06 AM
-When they'll release Austere NT series & OT conversion list (we know the NT route already)

I guess i live under a rock but other than having the respective invade nt weapon what else they said we need?

ArcaneTechs
Sep 25, 2018, 03:09 AM
I guess i live under a rock but other than having the respective invade nt weapon what else they said we need?
Austere NT:
- Invade NT +35
- Slave NT +35
- Nemesis NT+35

the OT route trade we still dont know what they'll be requesting for trade

kinda the reason people should have been farming UQ for like almost the past month. Lilipa UQ boost is gone tomorrow when maintenance hits and then Nab UQ will be boosted and that'll be the time to farm for Nemesis NT's + UQ stones

Weaponslash
Sep 25, 2018, 03:38 AM
Thanks for the heads up it just strikes me a bit odd that they did not include invade tact but went out of their way to make slave/nemesis versions

final_attack
Sep 25, 2018, 03:54 AM
I wonder if they'll provide OT -> NT that doesn't involve horrible-rate-drop-only-rng or absurdly long grind :(

Also, topic is about November update, no?
[SPOILER-BOX]https://i.imgur.com/vKtE1on.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

Loveless62
Sep 25, 2018, 05:52 AM
Austere NT:
- Invade NT +35
- Slave NT +35
- Nemesis NT+35
This is what I don't get about this trade if it actually true: there is no question that these weapons take work to acquire, but I am certain that many players will have these weapons pre-farmed before the trade is made available. Wouldn't that mean that players would be able to pick up Austere-NT weapons, presumably the best weapons available in Ep.5, as soon as the trade is available? That would be strange because then those players may have Austere-NT even before the first run of the final boss EQ. They wouldn't even need to participate in that EQ to have Austere-NT.

This is why I don't believe that this is the actual trade. I think there would be more to it, like maybe stones (LUL) would be needed from the EQ for the trade, or maybe they will delay the trade for a couple of weeks after the EQ comes out.

XrosBlader821
Sep 25, 2018, 06:28 AM
Austere NT:
- Invade NT +35
- Slave NT +35
- Nemesis NT+35

the OT route trade we still dont know what they'll be requesting for trade

We still don't know any of the routes. This is just a rumor.

the_importer_
Sep 25, 2018, 06:57 AM
OT Route, calling it now:

1 x OT Austere
999 x King's Crest
999 x Conqueror's Crest
300 x Class Cubes

Jene-chan
Sep 25, 2018, 08:22 AM
We still don't know any of the routes. This is just a rumor.

this is not correct. what kril posted is correct.

they said on a live stream awhile ago that aus nt will require invade nt/slave nt/nem nt at +35. they have not said if that is the only requirement for it. they also have not elaborated on what the ot trade in will be at all other than that there will be one.

also, there is nothing they've said to suggest it will require conqueror's crests/king's crests /however/ im stocking mine just in case because you never know these days with this game

echofaith
Sep 25, 2018, 08:42 AM
Hoping OT exchange isnt gated behind RNG only stuff ):

Flaoc
Oct 29, 2018, 11:27 PM
time to get no new info on the false lumiere and evleda unit buffs in less than 8 hours

ArcaneTechs
Oct 30, 2018, 02:56 AM
time to get no new info on the false lumiere and evleda unit buffs in less than 8 hours
im in that same boat with ya man

Zephyrion
Oct 30, 2018, 05:52 AM
this is not correct. what kril posted is correct.

they said on a live stream awhile ago that aus nt will require invade nt/slave nt/nem nt at +35. they have not said if that is the only requirement for it. they also have not elaborated on what the ot trade in will be at all other than that there will be one.

also, there is nothing they've said to suggest it will require conqueror's crests/king's crests /however/ im stocking mine just in case because you never know these days with this game

Don't forget that given how they're beating about the bush, it's now 90% sure new solo UQ and raid itself will give some ingredients (weapons stones or whatever, nothing certain yet) just to make sure that as it was said, people wouldn't be able to just trade what can be farmed already. I think they really only revealed this part out of pity for how BS this exchange will be, and let people at least get things that are readily available already

oratank
Oct 30, 2018, 08:05 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqwfnYpU0AAcFYG.jpg

Meteor Weapon
Oct 30, 2018, 08:25 AM
Is there anyone bored with constant persona collab lol?

oratank
Oct 30, 2018, 08:32 AM
still waiting for yukiko and naoto costume

NightlightPro
Oct 30, 2018, 08:36 AM
still waiting for yukiko and naoto costume

same, disappointed because she wasn't there, gg sega

GHNeko
Oct 30, 2018, 08:54 AM
Is there anyone bored with constant persona collab lol?

i want persona 4 to die

the_importer_
Oct 30, 2018, 08:59 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqwfnYpU0AAcFYG.jpg

$30 a pop, not bad, know how tall they are?


EDIT: Never mind, didn't see that "1" in front, overpriced licence stuff, no wonder the bootleg market keeps booming.

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 09:02 AM
So basically "Things we already know about - the Livestream". Poor guy who thought they pushed the livestream to the 30th because the revealed stuff would spoil the story. Nice villain teaser tho.


Is there anyone bored with constant persona collab lol?

No.

oratank
Oct 30, 2018, 09:03 AM
new advance class Phantom

LancerFate
Oct 30, 2018, 09:03 AM
New class teaser ^^. Rod, AR, Katana right ?

Kilich
Oct 30, 2018, 09:04 AM
Ep 6 trailer! Somebody break it down for new classes, PAs and whatever else

oratank
Oct 30, 2018, 09:08 AM
New class teaser ^^. Rod, AR, Katana right ?

rod? lol that broke my dream i thought it was scythe damit :/

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 09:09 AM
New class teaser ^^. Rod, AR, Katana right ?

looked like partizan to me or perhaps we really are getting dedicated scythes

Kilich
Oct 30, 2018, 09:11 AM
Maybe its a wand.

oratank
Oct 30, 2018, 09:13 AM
last word from teaser 戦は宇宙へ we gonna fight in space ?

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 09:13 AM
Maybe its a wand.

too big for a wand

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/475213600869449749/506832919088857095/unknown.png

cheapgunner
Oct 30, 2018, 09:14 AM
Can't wait to see this new class trailer (At the doctor so might not see atm).

final_attack
Oct 30, 2018, 09:14 AM
I wonder if it'll have / need weapon changing mechanic like Hr ......

Also ... melee-focused? Partizan (?) + Rifle + Katana .....
Seems like it'll be a class for my alt (if I have the time :wacko: ).
I also don't really have good Katana / Rifle .... never grinded a single Partizan to use too :wacko:

Does Hr has Lv75 bonus? the base stat thingy from earlier classes, I forgot.

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 09:18 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/475213600869449749/506833896504295434/unknown.png

99% sure this might be dedicated Scythe Weapon type

Kilich
Oct 30, 2018, 09:18 AM
Wands are basically t atk melee weapons and since there's no mistake about katana and rifle, I think size is not a problem here.

LancerFate
Oct 30, 2018, 09:20 AM
Mmm yea probably wand

cheapgunner
Oct 30, 2018, 09:21 AM
Scythe are cool. Would be neat If this weapon type has some sort of ape swing action for melee attacks.

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 09:23 AM
Wands are basically t atk melee weapons and since there's no mistake about katana and rifle, I think size is not a problem here.

there is no rule saying each adv. class needs to have all 3 ATK types covered.

Agastya
Oct 30, 2018, 09:24 AM
it is most likely wands; they already have the scythe motif in many other weapons

TECHER MAINS RISE UP
JUSTICE FOR WANDS

oratank
Oct 30, 2018, 09:26 AM
yeah since we already have a rod like Scythe from elder and it too short to be wand

Kilich
Oct 30, 2018, 09:30 AM
I hope that Phantom F basewear is actually just the dress, kinda tired of basewear including legwear.

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 09:32 AM
yeah since we already have a rod like Scythe from elder and it too short to be wand

my gues stoo if it aint scythe.This is just too short for those animations they used.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/475213600869449749/506837522286903316/unknown.png

Kilich
Oct 30, 2018, 09:36 AM
But what confuses me are those attacks that look like PAs, not techs and only wand has PAs. Having rods become melee weapons is a bit too sudden.

oratank
Oct 30, 2018, 09:41 AM
But what confuses me are those attacks that look like PAs, not techs and only wand has PAs. Having rods become melee weapons is a bit too sudden.

well talis turn into slicer in hero class

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 09:43 AM
https://twitter.com/kami_pepe/status/1057272049465323526?

Trailer

oratank
Oct 30, 2018, 09:47 AM
too big for a wand

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/475213600869449749/506832919088857095/unknown.png

from this stance it would be awkward if ti's wand i mean look how she hold it she has to held a blade of lavis canon

Ezodagrom
Oct 30, 2018, 09:48 AM
But what confuses me are those attacks that look like PAs, not techs and only wand has PAs. Having rods become melee weapons is a bit too sudden.
Well, it would be a similar situation to Hero's talis, personally I think either rod, partisan or an actual new weapon type are the most likely options.

Kiboune
Oct 30, 2018, 09:49 AM
PAs for katana look super stylish. Can it be they changed class name from Villian to Phantom?

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 09:49 AM
from this stance it would be awkward if ti's wand i mean look how she hold it she has to held a blade of lavis canon

any wand at all really not just lavis. Imagine holding this camo the same way she holds the scythe.
https://i.imgur.com/6yKMKnq.jpg

It's either Rod if they're recycling old stuff or Scythe a new weapon type to fit the Phantom name.

Kiboune
Oct 30, 2018, 10:08 AM
What if it's partizan as scythe?

yoshiblue
Oct 30, 2018, 10:10 AM
too big for a wand

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/475213600869449749/506832919088857095/unknown.png

It's ya boi, Not Ruby and Not Qrow.

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 10:18 AM
It's also entirely possible that the Scythe is a T-ATK weapon btw.
It'd certainly help the Player market to balance affix costs out with its 9 S-ATK weapons (10 if we include hero). 4 R-ATK weapons (6 if we include Hero and Gunslash) and 4 T-ATK weapons (5 if we include hero). Not counting Takt because you can't affix that and outside of Rykros most Builds are S-ATK anyway.

Zorak000
Oct 30, 2018, 10:32 AM
it looks like the cross attack is flying outward and clipping into the ground
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/118151479415537671/506845475219963934/unknown.png
I'm leaning more into the possibility that this is a Rod myself. most rods will probably still look goofy held like this, but if there has ever been two weapon types that have had models that get confused for one or the other, it's partisans and rods

like we got the falz angel partisan looking like it should be a rod, the Amun weapon series literally using the exact same model, the Calamity rod lookin like a scythe

oratank
Oct 30, 2018, 10:41 AM
It's ya boi, Not Ruby and Not Qrow.

damn right Not Ruby lol.

TakemiShinnosuke
Oct 30, 2018, 11:02 AM
For anyone who missed it

The phantom class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY-Rs80WkGo

hmm another multi class .. YAY!!!

ALSO does anyone happen to have the EP6 bit ?? the last section where they headed to space ??

Tymek
Oct 30, 2018, 11:05 AM
It's kind of sad that they actually have to use the tagline "The Battle Heads To Space" in order to reaffirm everyone we're out of FANTASY ISEKAI and back to the SF everyone desired.

Maninbluejumpsuit
Oct 30, 2018, 11:11 AM
Ow. The edge.

Reilet
Oct 30, 2018, 11:19 AM
Anyone else notice how after the PA usage, the scythe does a dance-like animation similar to partizan?

FantasyHeaven
Oct 30, 2018, 11:47 AM
It's kind of sad that they actually have to use the tagline "The Battle Heads To Space" in order to reaffirm everyone we're out of FANTASY ISEKAI and back to the SF everyone desired.
It could just be space different world instead

Sonickyle27
Oct 30, 2018, 11:59 AM
Anyone else notice how after the PA usage, the scythe does a dance-like animation similar to partizan?

Unless it's using the same gear system, it's probably just for stylistic flair. Probably.

Tymek
Oct 30, 2018, 12:06 PM
When you think about it, two S-ATK weapons makes sense...?
I mean, EPISODE5 SPOILERS: Elmir absorbed Coat Edge which became the sword for Elga Masquerada, and Coat Doublis was destroyed by Shiva.

the_importer_
Oct 30, 2018, 01:29 PM
OK WTF SEGA, EP5 is over, why don't you reveal everything about Austere-NT? It's been half a year that you've cockteased us with this new line of weapon, just out with it already!!!!!!!!!!

Maninbluejumpsuit
Oct 30, 2018, 01:48 PM
OK WTF SEGA, EP5 is over, why don't you reveal everything about Austere-NT? It's been half a year that you've cockteased us with this new line of weapon, just out with it already!!!!!!!!!!

Nah son. Seriously though, the more they refuse to tell us shit about it the less I care.

I really hope they never make a habit of doing this artificial suspense crap. I don't farm months in advance for things I know nothing about. It's pointless and annoying. Tell me what it is so I can make up my mind already.

Zephyrion
Oct 30, 2018, 02:40 PM
Nah son. Seriously though, the more they refuse to tell us shit about it the less I care.

I really hope they never make a habit of doing this artificial suspense crap. I don't farm months in advance for things I know nothing about. It's pointless and annoying. Tell me what it is so I can make up my mind already.

I find it irksome too...but then I think about one alternative being them not even mentioning anything about Austere until the final station before before it comes out and be like "hey you trashed a Slave for that juciy Spirita VI, but that now forever cucks you from getting the strongest weapon in the game, which also requires a shitton of stupid things you never cared about, but now you either have to care or kiss goodbye at getting your nostalgia weapon sauced up to 9000...yay ?"

While there is still a degree of uncertainty because we never know it's SEGA, I think they just didn't mention anything about the other ingredients because it would also spoil content linked to it (namely that solo UQ and the final raid). I find it unlikely anything present in the XH free fields is related to Austere, since those are clearly tied to the MH collab. We'll most likely get some info along with the next station, since it will cover December updates (again SEGA might pull a SEGA but).

I also think it's very unlikely we get an actual OT trade route. Either it will be the same recipe but you can use Austere OT instead of another ingredient, or just straight out trade it for said ingredient, which again can't be spoiled yet. I'm just not seeing them do a super elaborate separate route only for people with Austere OT

Golgotha
Oct 30, 2018, 02:52 PM
It could just be space different world instead

its literally the space (宇宙) battle
well, surely it will be on solid ground. Could use some evil space stations though, instead of darker mud gardens.
Most of the locations in game are either derelict or natural, its kinda taxing.


Nah son. Seriously though, the more they refuse to tell us shit about it the less I care.

I really hope they never make a habit of doing this artificial suspense crap. I don't farm months in advance for things I know nothing about. It's pointless and annoying. Tell me what it is so I can make up my mind already.

They save this sort of information for arks live nowadays. The next one is few days away I think.
Anyway having some ep3 flashbacks rn, people get worked up about next big stick as if their life depends on it, except this one is actually permanent and not 2 week limited edition or something

Dark Mits
Oct 30, 2018, 03:08 PM
Regarding the Scythe-like weapon, didn't Hero also equip/sheathe the sword differenty than all other 9 classes? So it may be a weapon type we already have, with just different sheathing orientation.

ArcaneTechs
Oct 30, 2018, 03:41 PM
NEW CLASS HHYYPPPEEE AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH IM FREAKING THE HELL OUT MAN!!! FJROSNEBFIWOWLFNF839 AD N3N2

Kondibon
Oct 30, 2018, 03:56 PM
Regarding the Scythe-like weapon, didn't Hero also equip/sheathe the sword differenty than all other 9 classes? So it may be a weapon type we already have, with just different sheathing orientation.All of their animations are different for hero. It seems to be the case with this class too. I think people brought up the animations because those animations it has wouldn't work with how short wands are. It's probably rod to match with the S/R/T parity like Hr had, but it could also be partisan.

Ezodagrom
Oct 30, 2018, 03:58 PM
Regarding the Scythe-like weapon, didn't Hero also equip/sheathe the sword differenty than all other 9 classes? So it may be a weapon type we already have, with just different sheathing orientation.
Yeah, which is why rod or partisan are the most likely possibilities (it being a new weapon type is also possible).

Wand wouldn't be possible though, for example, a wand like the one below just wouldn't work visually.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/475213600869449749/506837522286903316/unknown.png

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 04:00 PM
Regarding the Scythe-like weapon, didn't Hero also equip/sheathe the sword differenty than all other 9 classes? So it may be a weapon type we already have, with just different sheathing orientation.

The problem with identifying the scythe isn't in it's sheathing animation rather than whenever or not they'll use Partizan or Rod or if they'll actually introduce a Scythe weapon type. Either way I'm never unequipping that Weapon camo.

cheapgunner
Oct 30, 2018, 04:23 PM
*I just need to know the reqs for Phantom. Might run it on my Ranger main or Force main depending on what it needs to be unlockied.

Tyreek
Oct 30, 2018, 05:15 PM
Guess its a good thing I maxed out my secondary classes in time for this... No Summoner please.

Touka
Oct 30, 2018, 05:28 PM
No Summoner please.
Yeah no kidding,i'm not going to shite on summoner players but I just do not enjoy playing the class what so ever.

BlueCast Boy
Oct 30, 2018, 05:28 PM
So I wonder what relation does the Phantom class have from the Phantom enemies on ep4.

the_importer_
Oct 30, 2018, 05:34 PM
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They save this sort of information for arks live nowadays. The next one is few days away I think.
Anyway having some ep3 flashbacks rn, people get worked up about next big stick as if their life depends on it, except this one is actually permanent and not 2 week limited edition or something

Next Saturday 20:00 in Japan, so Friday for most of us, let's cross our fingers until then.

Off-topic, what about those 1m EXP tickets we'll be getting everyday for 30 days? Hope they won't raise the EXP bar too high, I want to be at least able to cap one of my classes from 85 half-way to 90 :(

cheapgunner
Oct 30, 2018, 05:39 PM
Next Saturday 20:00 in Japan, so Friday for most of us, let's cross our fingers until then.

Off-topic, what about those 1m EXP tickets we'll be getting everyday for 30 days? Hope they won't raise the EXP bar too high, I want to be at least able to cap one of my classes from 85 half-way to 90 :(

I expect the avg expect from lv 86 and onward to be roughly 12+ mil so expect to only get around 2 and a quarter lvls from all those tickets on a single class.

the_importer_
Oct 30, 2018, 05:44 PM
I expect the avg expect from lv 86 and onward to be roughly 12+ mil so expect to only get around 2 and a quarter lvls from all those tickets on a single class.

I still find the peak they did going from 80 to 85 ridiculous. Sure Lv100 will be the final cap, but still, we'll have 13~14 classes by then. For such a limited game, if someone wants to cap them all (like yours truly has done 3 times now), it will be a bigger pain in the ass.

Loyd Azakuya
Oct 30, 2018, 05:55 PM
The problem with identifying the scythe isn't in it's sheathing animation rather than whenever or not they'll use Partizan or Rod or if they'll actually introduce a Scythe weapon type. Either way I'm never unequipping that Weapon camo.
bad for you, that's not a weapon camo, its a 14* weapon for this class
Remember the Hero trailer? they were using the Demonia weapons
https://youtu.be/kLyXzvKdp6I?t=136

XrosBlader821
Oct 30, 2018, 06:08 PM
bad for you, that's not a weapon camo, its a 14* weapon for this class
Remember the Hero trailer? they were using the Demonia weapons
https://youtu.be/kLyXzvKdp6I?t=136

Hello Darkness my old Friend...

Here's to hope the tutor uses a Scythe like camo

KaizoKage
Oct 30, 2018, 06:24 PM
Unless we see the class silhouette of Phantom, no one can really tell if its a camo or a weapon. In that case if it really is a weapon, I call it an Ether Scythe

silo1991
Oct 30, 2018, 06:26 PM
Next Saturday 20:00 in Japan, so Friday for most of us, let's cross our fingers until then.

Off-topic, what about those 1m EXP tickets we'll be getting everyday for 30 days? Hope they won't raise the EXP bar too high, I want to be at least able to cap one of my classes from 85 half-way to 90 :(

where was those tickets when i lvl up the hunter class ``twice``

Great Pan
Oct 30, 2018, 06:46 PM
We go full EDGY WEEB shit nao. My Monk class dream is dead.

ArcaneTechs
Oct 30, 2018, 08:01 PM
i highly recommend you guys dont jump the gun and start grinding/affixing/attaining any current weapons until the Persona Falz gear is out, the new LQ gear and w/e in between (like Austere NT and Lumiere Upgrades). You may end up regretting the early gear, I would suggest waiting until the Xmas stream before confirming what Katana, Rifle and Rod or Partisan to work towards so you can reliably pick a weapon that will benefit the class more. naturally if you dont want to wait then go for it

yoshiblue
Oct 30, 2018, 08:42 PM
So I wonder what relation does the Phantom class have from the Phantom enemies on ep4.

In our visit on Earth we took notes from John Cena and Terry Crews. So they'll never see us and we'll be long lasting (and smell nice).

oratank
Oct 31, 2018, 12:25 AM
We go full EDGY WEEB shit nao. My Monk class dream is dead.

wait for ep8 or 9 knuckle,jet boot and launcher(battle rod) :)

DrCatco
Oct 31, 2018, 01:28 AM
wait for ep8 or 9 knuckle,jet boot and launcher(battle rod) :)

Of course not. Next class will use wired lances, bow and full grown pets summons (think Wanda/Jinga with the size and movements of a Fang Banther/Banshee and so on) :-D

GHNeko
Oct 31, 2018, 02:32 AM
We go full EDGY WEEB shit nao. My Monk class dream is dead.

EP2 Braver :wacko:

oratank
Nov 3, 2018, 06:24 AM
Scythe = rod confirmed on arks live

TakemiShinnosuke
Nov 3, 2018, 07:20 AM
rod PA for phantom ??? huh what

TakemiShinnosuke
Nov 3, 2018, 07:22 AM
i highly recommend you guys dont jump the gun and start grinding/affixing/attaining any current weapons until the Persona Falz gear is out, the new LQ gear and w/e in between (like Austere NT and Lumiere Upgrades). You may end up regretting the early gear, I would suggest waiting until the Xmas stream before confirming what Katana, Rifle and Rod or Partisan to work towards so you can reliably pick a weapon that will benefit the class more. naturally if you dont want to wait then go for it

does not really matter TO ME.. when this rifle had dropped on me previously

https://i.imgur.com/gupl5WW.png

LancerFate
Nov 3, 2018, 07:36 AM
does not really matter TO ME.. when this rifle had dropped on me previously

https://i.imgur.com/gupl5WW.png

Probably one of worst potentials, only 6% dmg if not EA or you run out of weak bullets.

XrosBlader821
Nov 3, 2018, 07:39 AM
rod PA for phantom ??? huh what

Hero Talis still exists btw.


Probably one of worst potentials, only 6% dmg if not EA or you run out of weak bullets.

Sega did say they wanna buff the rifle up a little but I dunno how they'd do it since the original pot is this bad.

oratank
Nov 3, 2018, 07:51 AM
rod PA for phantom ??? huh what

yeah now i can put my phobos rod to good use

final_attack
Nov 3, 2018, 08:18 AM
Translation help for this?
It's what players want, right?

[SPOILER-BOX]https://i.imgur.com/x3JSwpr.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

Thank you :D

TakemiShinnosuke
Nov 3, 2018, 08:29 AM
Probably one of worst potentials, only 6% dmg if not EA or you run out of weak bullets.

so what if I run of them.. if there is another person in the mpa with weak bullets ( ranger class ) then the POT continues

XrosBlader821
Nov 3, 2018, 09:00 AM
Translation help for this?
It's what players want, right?

[SPOILER-BOX]https://i.imgur.com/x3JSwpr.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

Thank you :D
tl;dr Phantom currently takes priority and they are thinking whenever or not Type-0 and regular versions should be accessible at the same time.

final_attack
Nov 3, 2018, 09:56 AM
tl;dr Phantom currently takes priority and they are thinking whenever or not Type-0 and regular versions should be accessible at the same time.

Ah, all right, thank you :3

Ezodagrom
Nov 3, 2018, 10:29 AM
Translation help for this?
It's what players want, right?

[SPOILER-BOX]https://i.imgur.com/x3JSwpr.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

Thank you :D
They're the results from the latest player survey.

From Bumped:


What Do Players Want In The Future?


Players want new PAs to all weapons.
They Want More Type-Zero Technics
They want to use both (Type-Zero and Normal) PAs / Techs

They want improvements to Simple Compound Technics
They want adjustments that focus on something refreshing rather than just power.
They want Hunters strengthened a bit more.
They want a new class.

http://www.bumped.org/psublog/pso2-station-25-recap/

Kilich
Nov 3, 2018, 10:31 AM
I'd add I want Layered wear to get more complex, with options to unhide innerwear, or hide parts of the either layer, like thighhigh boots/stockings that are on almost every costume.

final_attack
Nov 3, 2018, 10:36 AM
They're the results from the latest player survey.

Oh, thank you ^^ ... I checked bumped before asking here (not posted yet, at that time), now it's answered :3

Ezodagrom
Nov 3, 2018, 11:51 AM
Oh, thank you ^^ ... I checked bumped before asking here (not posted yet, at that time), now it's answered :3
Bumped got updated with another part of the survey results, this time about quests:



What do Players Want for Quests In The Future?


They want EQs with efficient EXP
They want to play permanent quests that aren’t bound by time limits nor only available during specific times.
They want unique behaviors/motions when the Devs use existing enemies. (Ex: Zeta Guranz’ beam in VR Defense)
They want buffed versions of bosses before EP3
They want new quest types.
They want increased rare drop rates.
They want changes in movement for Buffed Raids and Rematch Bosses, and not just HP and ATK increases.

Reilet
Nov 3, 2018, 12:04 PM
so what if I run of them.. if there is another person in the mpa with weak bullets ( ranger class ) then the POT continues

That’s not how the pot works... You USE your WBs to empower your end attracts. Aka, you get 6 strong EAs before it goes to the default 6% pot, and that’s assuming you have weak bullet loaded in.

The empowering also only applies to end attract and nothing else.

Anduril
Nov 3, 2018, 12:15 PM
That’s not how the pot works... You USE your WBs to empower your end attracts. Aka, you get 6 strong EAs before it goes to the default 6% pot, and that’s assuming you have weak bullet loaded in.

The empowering also only applies to end attract and nothing else.

Which also means that for Phantom it would only get the base 6% modifier since Phantom will have its own PAs and thus no access to End Attract. The only thing that I figure that they can buff on it at this point is to just increase the base damage modifier, especially since it doesn't have any SSA slots.

Kilich
Nov 3, 2018, 12:27 PM
I hope that sega flatlines the powercreep for a while, given that the survey told them that people want more than just damage

vantpers
Nov 3, 2018, 12:45 PM
I hope that sega flatlines the powercreep for a while, given that the survey told them that people want more than just damage
More than just damage might be worse for power creep. Gunner's level 85 skill was precisely more than just damage. While damage is easy to adjust for since we can just give everything 10 times the HP, actual changes to how smooth the class is can break many encounters, like Gunner being able to output ridiculous AoE while floating in the air, and then you need to somehow add enemies that can aggressively attack a player high in the air while also not dying too fast, and then the Gunner guy is also more than half the time in iframes.

Zephyrion
Nov 3, 2018, 12:51 PM
More than just damage might be worse for power creep. Gunner's level 85 skill was precisely more than just damage. While damage is easy to adjust for since we can just give everything 10 times the HP, actual changes to how smooth the class is can break many encounters, like Gunner being able to output ridiculous AoE while floating in the air, and then you need to somehow add enemies that can aggressively attack a player high in the air while also not dying too fast, and then the Gunner guy is also more than half the time in iframes.

While I agree with the point itself, I think GU's new skill's main issue is exactly damage. The skill was supposed to make GU's mobbing more versatile, but guess what ,best AoE DPS for the class is ALSO invul and ALSO PP positive and ALSO builds chain.Its very existence completely invalidates other PAs not just because it beats them in one or another thing, it beats them in literally every respect. Getting a lower risk mobbing tool is something GU needed, but a more damaging mobbing option ? Not really. A steep damage decrease and make it actually cost 10PP without recovering any would go a long way to fix the skill and make it compliment existing mobbing PAs (the AoE, chain building and invul just being there would still make GU's mobbing more versatile as intended) instead of straight overwriting them.

You can do more thant just damage up but it requires a lot of finesse to strike the right balance between " broken/abusable mechanic" and "useless gimmick"

Kilich
Nov 3, 2018, 12:56 PM
I don't think giving more hp solves things. I mean exactly that broke CM and serves as a wall for SH players when they enter XH.

vantpers
Nov 3, 2018, 01:07 PM
I don't think giving more hp solves things. I mean exactly that broke CM and serves as a wall for SH players when they enter XH.
It solves problems with giving everyone more damage, it's just more complicated when you need to make sure everything gets more HP properly. Still as a general rule the balancing can be a complicated but still number tweak.

While I agree with the point itself, I think GU's new skill's main issue is exactly damage. The skill was supposed to make GU's mobbing more versatile, but guess what ,best AoE DPS for the class is ALSO invul and ALSO PP positive and ALSO builds chain.Its very existence completely invalidates other PAs not just because it beats them in one or another thing, it beats them in literally every respect. Getting a lower risk mobbing tool is something GU needed, but a more damaging mobbing option ? Not really. A steep damage decrease and make it actually cost 10PP without recovering any would go a long way to fix the skill and make it compliment existing mobbing PAs (the AoE, chain building and invul just being there would still make GU's mobbing more versatile as intended) instead of straight overwriting them.

You can do more thant just damage up but it requires a lot of finesse to strike the right balance between " broken/abusable mechanic" and "useless gimmick"

Yeah. It was a problem with having damage on a mechanically strong skill, but tweaking more than just damage does lead to such outcomes. Such mechanically strong skill needs plenty of damage nerfs to stop being so dominant.

the_importer_
Nov 3, 2018, 01:37 PM
So, we either have to believe that no Japanese players are interested in Austere-NT weapons or that this was one of the top requests that got totally ignored.

vantpers
Nov 3, 2018, 01:40 PM
Is the info about the newest grind stick that lets you do maybe 10% more damage really that important?

Dark Mits
Nov 3, 2018, 02:38 PM
The "catch" with wanting something more than damage is that what it really means is: "I want to deal more damage but not just through bigger numbers". ie.:
a) Lower cost on my PAs/Techs so that I have to spend less time recovering PP and more time actually using PAs/Techs
b) Lower cooldown on class skills so that I can use them more often
c) Higher movement speed so that I spend less time moving from enemy to enemy
d) Possibly instant-death abilities for "trash-tier" enemies that only exist to slow me down before I get to a boss
e) Better ways to spread my damage when enemies are not stacked on top of each other
f) Ways to reduce the penalties of not succeeding on an action. Yes, this sounds like nonsense. What I mean is, if I spend 40PP to Over End thin air because the enemy died before I hit it, I should have a portion of that PP refunded.
etc.

Saffran
Nov 3, 2018, 07:35 PM
When I say "I want more than damage" I mean things like "I want synergy between main and sub class" or "I want a proper block mechanic - at least a less effective avoid mechanic" or "I want secret rooms and shortcuts in maps" or "I want a reason to use the new compound spells" or "Make NPC crafting more useful as craft levels go up" or "Stop rewarding me 0 slot units" or, you know, in general, something else in the updates than just simply "you're more powerful now! And you can teleport! Also, free exp levels and a some flavor of the month stones!"

Kondibon
Nov 3, 2018, 07:39 PM
"I want a reason to use the new compound spells"Refomelgion is the only one that doesn't have a good use, and that's just because of the PP cost.

Saffran
Nov 3, 2018, 07:52 PM
One spell makes you move really fast while flying high in the air but that's not really what I want nor what I need. The other is just a juiced up Zondeel + Zan combo or something. I can combo Zondeel and Zan just fine, thank you.
Did they ever provide an explanation on why they even made these?
I guess the ice one processes a lot on the fire demons?

Dugs
Nov 3, 2018, 08:40 PM
Juiced up Zondeel + Zan, at range, without the need to position a Talis, that combines the suction of Zondeel and the shock without removing either.

Maninbluejumpsuit
Nov 3, 2018, 11:14 PM
Juiced up Zondeel + Zan, at range, without the need to position a Talis, that combines the suction of Zondeel and the shock without removing either.

P'much. I'd argue it's the best, and coolest of the 3.

ArcaneTechs
Nov 4, 2018, 12:26 AM
Refomelgion is the only one that doesn't have a good use, and that's just because of the PP cost.

Re Barantsion is pretty trash, they could have at least allowed splash damage with every hit but its so slow and dmg is lacking, Re Zandia still stands as the only good one

Tunga
Nov 4, 2018, 01:21 AM
Re Barantsion is pretty trash, they could have at least allowed splash damage with every hit but its so slow and dmg is lacking, Re Zandia still stands as the only good one

Rebaran is something you use to s rank your daily quest while you make your way to the boss.

ArcaneTechs
Nov 4, 2018, 03:50 AM
Rebaran is something you use to s rank your daily quest while you make your way to the boss.
you mean you dont spam Il Zonde on N to kill on the way for the daily quest keys? :wacko:

XrosBlader821
Nov 4, 2018, 04:22 AM
Rebarantsion is pretty good when it comes to dealing damage while on the go (for example when Deus pimple pops up and you walk up the arms). I also found it useful during Magatsu campaign, allowing me to angle myself mid-air to Safoie Typ-0 / HH into a Maggy weakspot without having to climb it up again. Obviously it could be much better, I think the Attack speed and movement speed could see some tweaks, but on Te I generaly found it useful. ReZandia however I wish wouldn't have such long animation at the end of the cast other wise it would be superb.
But yeah even on my Fo/Te I struggle finding use for ReFolmegia

Golgotha
Nov 5, 2018, 07:58 AM
Rei formelgia has super armor (probably the only super armor thing on Force?) and ends with a huge leap back at the end.
I think I saw a video with force using it as quick dodge by formeling into opposite direction. A bit tricky to do.

Kondibon
Nov 5, 2018, 01:29 PM
Rei formelgia has super armor (probably the only super armor thing on Force?) and ends with a huge leap back at the end.
I think I saw a video with force using it as quick dodge by formeling into opposite direction. A bit tricky to do.The problem is the pp cost. It's 50 pp just to start.

XrosBlader821
Nov 5, 2018, 02:08 PM
The problem is the pp cost. It's 50 pp just to start.

It was reduced to 40 back when Hunter Sword, Bow and JB buffs hit

https://i.imgur.com/4v9k7xY.png

Kondibon
Nov 5, 2018, 02:53 PM
It was reduced to 40 back when Hunter Sword, Bow and JB buffs hit

https://i.imgur.com/4v9k7xY.pngThat's still too much for what it does.