PSO2 on west XBOX (and PC too, apparently?) confirmed on Microsoft E3

[Shoterxx]

Watched just now, and choked on my drink, thanks SEGA.

[xBladeM6x]

I never thought I'd see Phantasy Star on a major E3 conference presentation.

[Gwyndolin]

It said with all the content in the game as well, that's crazy! lol

[locutus442]

Please let this come to other systems (PC/PS4)

And my reaction to the annoucement: ABOUT F'ING TIME!!!111!!

[Griffin]

I don't actually believe it. Just wow.

[Veriti]

Incoming region locks on JP PSO2?

[neilp4453]

Just watched the announcement. I'm HYPED! Microsoft is killing it!

It is going to feel good being an active member here again. A year long wait but it will be worth it!

[Jimbei]

Been waiting so long for an official release, can't wait.

[metatime]

I haven't posted here for years.... now I'm finally coming back soon..... Finally it's being released here

[ArcaneTechs]

NOOOOOO IT FINALLY HAPPENED BUT WILL IT ACTUALLY BE UP TO DATE OR 20YRS BEHIND REE

JK but cg to those who waited SEVEN YEARS for this, supposedly cross play

[Jay6]

Oh cool... we're finally getting PSO2 in the west after EIGHT YEARS... Oh crap! Potential incoming region locks... MY PROGRESS!! ;_;

[NightlightPro]

too late

[Azure Falcon]

Incoming region lock, everyone better get their VPNs ready. What concerns me most is what this means for Tweaker and the translation team, depending how heavy handed Sega get.

[Dark Priest]

Yeah... to fucking late. time to release was 2014 or 15 at the latest, but here we are, 2019 and just now.. goddamn it sega.

[wahahaha]

Tweaker trash finally disappearing? Wonderful

[Kiboune]

Now they gonna IP block JP servers? :(

[Dark Priest]

Tweaker trash finally disappearing? Wonderful

what do you have against tweaker, did it touch you inappropriately?

[Zeik2006]

I haven't posted here for years.... now I'm finally coming back soon..... Finally it's being released here

You and me both brother. I can't wait. I can't believe it actually happened.

[The_Brimada]

I quit the JP version years ago so I don't mind starting over. It caught me off guard though. Lol

[Anduril]

Now they gonna IP block JP servers? :(

The IP block on China was an attempt to stop RMT, and the one on SEA was at AsiaSoft's request, so unless SoA or Microsoft request there be a block (which neither did during the PSU era), then I doubt they would put one up just becuase there is an NA server.

[IMACOP]

How will it have everything, when they have so many collaborations and shit.

[DreXxiN]

I'm concerned about this as a business move for the future of Phantasy Star localization, but will be fun to play with friends again during the initial hype.

[the_importer_]

what do you have against tweaker, did it touch you inappropriately?

That or he's a snob who can read Japanese and thinks anyone who can't shouldn't be playing.

As for an IP ban, server mergers or data transfer, guess we'll see how smart SEGA and M$ are. Do they really think that people who have been playing this game for all of these years will want to start over? Let's see if they play their cards right.

[Weaponslash]

If the western version ends up being the reason sega carpet bombs all non jp ip in order to force people to play on the "global" server will make me choke all those "yay western version finally" supporters

[Kiboune]

The IP block on China was an attempt to stop RMT, and the one on SEA was at AsiaSoft's request, so unless SoA or Microsoft request there be a block (which neither did during the PSU era), then I doubt they would put one up just becuase there is an NA server.

Thanks for clarifying.

[Mortalis]

Whaaaaaaaa! Crazy news

[Masu]

*snip*Oh crap! Potential incoming region locks... MY PROGRESS!! ;_;

Basically this.

I don't think I'll be up to start all over again. Can't wait to know more about it. At least if they do region locks I will be able to look at my steam library again. So much stuff I've yet to play.

Edit: I really hop Anduril is right. No more bitching at my isp would be nice ^^;

[Saryn_storm]

I have so much time spent on the game already (2.5k hours) I don't know if i should be happy or not. This is great news but do i really want to start from scratch again. Would be amazing move to offer server transfer to ENG servers. Highly unlikely but amazing. If it means losing all the collab items, then so be it. I don't want to lose my progress.

[Losvaize]

Why is this happening? Who is responsible for this? WHO IS STILL ASKING FOR THIS!? Just don't fuck with my ability to play on JP servers and I don't care, but I can't say I'm not spooked about losing all my progress because microsoft gets pissy that "why is the player count so low on our servers?" and asking sega to IP block our regions. I refuse to ever believe in SoA doing this series justice with their "services".

[Maulcun]

7 years later https://twitter.com/SEGA/status/507206954800803840

[Meteor Weapon]

US servers for those who dont wanna play/too lazy to play JP server. Hopefully they'd just leave us oldtimer foreigners on JP server alone since we're probably a minority in JP anyway(other than ship 2 which completely got conquered by gaijins.) This would probably get people who play casually on ship2 to leave while inviting JP's back into that ship.

[Ransu]

I'd rather not lose all my progress if Sega decides to push us all away to the English servers.

[Mortalis]

With crossplay announced I wouldnt be surprised if JP and US/EU played together ala what Monster Hunter World is doing. PC is making me weary though. I just don't trust Western gamers to not hack it to pieces.

[Neith]

Can't believe this is finally happening. I have no idea what I'll do given I've spent thousands of hours on JP servers, but great to see it finally coming to the west. I lost my mind when I heard the PSO2 theme...

[Meteor Weapon]

With crossplay announced I wouldnt be surprised if JP and US/EU played together ala what Monster Hunter World is doing. PC is making me weary though. I just don't trust Western gamers to not hack it to pieces.

International Shared Ships, Segac make this happen.

[Saryn_storm]

letting us server transfer would be the best thing to happen.

[Maulcun]

New

https://twitter.com/SEGA/status/1137839106342445056

[Dark Priest]

With crossplay announced I wouldnt be surprised if JP and US/EU played together ala what Monster Hunter World is doing. PC is making me weary though. I just don't trust Western gamers to not hack it to pieces.

Don't know if you played the original pso but that game was hacked to shit, it was so bad you had to fear just standing in lobbies..only old timers know why. so yes, western gamers will hack it to pieces, if they can.

If fact, i can't confirm this since it was so long ago but i think they even halted updates to the game due to how bad the hacking got.

on the bright side though we've come a long way since 20 years and sega bans at the drop of a hat if they catch you doing anything, so it may not be nearly as bad.

[the_importer_]

Well, they brought back the fucking website: https://pso2.com/

[Nicktendonick]

I have so much time spent on the game already (2.5k hours) I don't know if i should be happy or not. This is great news but do i really want to start from scratch again.
And that's exactly my thoughts too. I've spent years playing and real world money in the game. I would love to support a English side of the game... but I don't want all my progress lost and I personally would probably just stay on the JP version with an English patch. I've spent 2,248 hours in PSO2, and I don't have the real world time to start over again.

Have they given any more details about it? Can the JP users migrate to the Eng servers? Will "coming to the west" just amount to a english-language option for us PC players?

If people have to start all over just to play in official English, I don't know how many of us will actually do that and I think it'd hurt the survival rate of the game...As the main English PSO2 community outside of reddit, we ought to try to get some way to prevent that situation from happening.

Overall, I'm still glad about this announcement. PSO2 has been doing that "live services" model crap back from when they were still called MMOs, and does it a thousand times better then any of these other games. Can't wait for it to explode here too.

[Yden]

How will it have everything, when they have so many collaborations and shit.

I mean most of the collab stuff were just outfits and stuff so they're unlikely to be any sort of factor until they want to sell them again. Other than that perm stuff like the border break boss is owned by Sega already so it's not an issue.

[Saryn_storm]

Don't know if you played the original pso but that game was hacked to shit, it was so bad you had to fear just standing in lobbies..only old timers know why. so yes, western gamers will have it to pieces, if they can.

If fact, i can't confirm this since it was so long ago but i think they even halted updates to the game due to how bad the hacking got.

I remember the Schthack days on PSOBB. Due to duping, only way to proof a drop was legit was a screen capture of the untekked weapon.

[Mortalis]

Don't know if you played the original pso but that game was hacked to shit, it was so bad you had to fear just standing in lobbies..only old timers know why. so yes, western gamers will have it to pieces, if they can.

If fact, i can't confirm this since it was so long ago but i think they even halted updates to the game due to how bad the hacking got.

I only played PSO on the dreamcast so I never got to experience Blue Burst until far down the line. PSU though, holy shit the damage they did to the PC/PS2 servers. They never recovered and Sega did nothing to stop them.

[ZerotakerZX]

The IP block on China was an attempt to stop RMT, and the one on SEA was at AsiaSoft's request, so unless SoA or Microsoft request there be a block (which neither did during the PSU era), then I doubt they would put one up just becuase there is an NA server.

Thanks for the info, I was a little worried about my progress and such. Seriously, mate, you the nicest person around.

[Griffin]

US servers for those who dont wanna play/too lazy to play JP server.

You make it sound like waiting for localization was ill-advised. At least those waiting won't have the concern of potentially being blocked and starting over. omegalul

[Shoterxx]

The website says "North America", so we from the EU might be safe from ISP blockade.

And I sure as hell hope they don't make it a Windows 10 app...

[Maulcun]

#PSO2 is finally making its western debut in North America on Xbox One in Spring 2020. Regarding an EMEA release, there's nothing to confirm right now. We understand it’s frustrating, but when we have more news to share, we will. Stay tuned to https://pso2.com for updates.


https://twitter.com/SEGA_Europe/status/1137841051467689985

[DreXxiN]

I'm sorry, but I just can't imagine how funny it would be if this was ANOTHER prank and they just ghost on us again for another 5 years, lmao.

[Mortalis]

I'm sorry, but I just can't imagine how funny it would be if this was ANOTHER prank and they just ghost on us again for another 5 years, lmao.

Thats the SoA I remember.

[IMACOP]

I mean most of the collab stuff were just outfits and stuff so they're unlikely to be any sort of factor until they want to sell them again. Other than that perm stuff like the border break boss is owned by Sega already so it's not an issue.

Without the license, they must remove it, doesn't matter if they'll sell it again, no way around that. Unless they happen to have a deal where they get full control.

And if IP block... ;-) now the rest of you can feel the saddness of SEA!

[Meteor Weapon]

You make it sound like waiting for localization was ill-advised. At least those waiting won't have the concern of potentially being blocked and starting over. omegalul

It's not, but the way they keep screaming Segac being at fault while not knowing the reason why it's been holdoff is really annoying tbh.

[Eclypse]

This new is long overdue. Been waiting for ages to play this game and now I will finally get my change to return to PSO.

[Rescue]

Just revived my account here after hearing the news. So, anyone care to let me know what to expect compared to PSO and PSU? Lol

*After 11 years lol*

[ArcaneTechs]

You make it sound like waiting for localization was ill-advised. At least those waiting won't have the concern of potentially being blocked and starting over. omegalul

Except this almost never happened because you would have seen over the years with rage threads about being blocked, only those who got caught cheating trying to make up sob stories were trying to get around the block. Gaijins didnt really have anything to fear either


I still wanna know if content will be up to date or not either way staying JP servers in case they pull the PSU situation sometime down the line

[Kiboune]

The website says "North America", so we from the EU might be safe from ISP blockade.

And I sure as hell hope they don't make it a Windows 10 app...

Or they gonna region lock JP server and NA will be region locked too.

[Mortalis]

One of the reasons I'm excited for this is because I really couldnt be assed to jump through hoops to get a PSO2 account on JP when it first came out, so when I finally did alot of the earlier episodes werent available on the server to play which kinda took me out of it. I would think they have to open up all episodes in this localization which is a major plus for me.

[Shoterxx]

Sudden realization:

Halo collab anyone?

[Meteor Weapon]

Just revived my account here after hearing the news. So, anyone care to let me know what to expect compared to PSO and PSU? Lol

*After 11 years lol*

expect moving you characters like Devil May Cry/Kingdom Hearts playstyle.

[neilp4453]

They mentioned it will release with all content in the post-announcement discussion. I assume that means the game will be up to date with Japan when it launches. It sounds bad since the game is so deep in it's life span, but I'm sure they will fully support the game (otherwise it is a big waste of time for all parties involved).



Just revived my account here after hearing the news. So, anyone care to let me know what to expect compared to PSO and PSU? Lol

*After 11 years lol*

The PC version can run pretty well on my garbage 2011 MBP with Windows so I'd suggest trying it out. I briefly played it a couple years ago and it is much more complex than PSU. There is a skill tree which adds to the min-maxing for those into that sort of thing. I played as a gunner and they have removed some of the old weapons and added in way more skills. So no more shotgun, but the rifle is very versatile and there was photon art for it that mimicked the PSU shotgun. I believe there was a skill with bullet penetration that mimicked the lasers from PSU.

There is just way more to do in PSO2. The casino is improved. Upgrading weapons is improved. The main lobby isn't as good as PSU imo. With PSO2, the missions are consolidated to one area (just got to talk to the lady at the counter).

The loot drops at the end were different. It might have been like that in PSO, but there aren't a ton of boxes like there was in PSU. You break the crystal/orb and everything just drops from it. The game play is more action-oriented as well (which is a welcome change imo). PSU felt very simple in terms of combat.

[Mortalis]

I do kinda find it humorous that in Japan its on PC/PS4 and in the West it's on PC/Xbox.

[neilp4453]

I do kinda find it humorous that in Japan its on PC/PS4 and in the West it's on PC/Xbox.

That is funny. The game is already on PS4 and they would just have to change the language. I guess Microsoft pushed it to happen and Sony (of America) doesn't care enough. I guess with them highlighting and doing well with single-player games, they saw no reason to push the issue. Their loss, I guess. Sony has mentioned wanting to get involved in the multiplayer aspect so it would make sense to do easy things like this.

It is also out on Switch in some cloud form. I'd actually prefer to play on the Switch for the portability aspect, but something is better than nothing.

[S-T-H]

Hey everyone. I heard the music during the presentation and thought I'd stop by. Pretty exciting stuff. I actually know nothing about any of this, so don't ask.

It's possible that Microsoft could be spearheading this one, so I don't know how community stuff is going to go or if Sega will have forums for this or whatever. Still, I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

[shagia]

logged back in to say imagine if they don't let you transfer progress lol

either way I'm down

[ArcaneTechs]

https://kotaku.com/phantasy-star-online-2-is-actually-coming-to-the-west-n-1835359531

“there will be no limitations on game experiences such as Class Level cap or direct purchase of high-tier weapons because we want to provide all players with a fair and exciting experience.”

oh so the SEA treatment, pay to get dmg increases. holy fuck its no wonder why casuals complained about current expert req.


EDIT: unless theyre not referring to IRL cash and mean like what we have now by buying Dim/Awake series then idk because its a vague explanation

[the_importer_]

I do kinda find it humorous that in Japan its on PC/PS4 and in the West it's on PC/Xbox.

Too many ways to make sexy female characters in PSO2, not good for Soyne's new policy.

[Dark Priest]

Too many ways to make sexy female characters in PSO2, not good for Soyne's new policy.

The amount of outfits in this game that have no pants is pretty astounding, if you can give credit sega on one thing, is they do not give a single care about shoving panties in your face.

[Saryn_storm]

It makes me genuinely sad if they want to kick the ENG community out from the JPN servers. Even if we're not supposed to be there in the first place, i always thought we were a small part of the community. Does it really make the a server better if we're gone? I really don't want to leave my character or the nice community we have here. Yeah, they're probably not kicking us out but i'm a bit uneasy about this.

[the_importer_]

... if you can give credit sega on one thing, is they do not give a single care about shoving panties in your face.

And God bless their souls for it ^_^


It makes me genuinely sad if they want to kick the ENG community out from the JPN servers. Even if we're not supposed to be there in the first place, i always thought we were a small part of the community. Does it really make the a server better if we're gone? I really don't want to leave my character or the nice community we have here.

They'll just move ship 02 to the NA servers. One day we'll log on and see a bunch of kids swearing, talking streets and showing dick pics all around and we'll know that we're in hell.

[Tymek]

Been waiting so long for an official release, can't wait.

Your first post since you made an account in 2003. Wow.

Actually, looks like a lot of oldtimers came back to comment on this!

It's a shame the game is only announced for North America and not Europe, though.

[ArcaneTechs]

Your first post since you made an account in 2003. Wow.

Actually, looks like a lot of oldtimers came back to comment on this!

It's a shame the game is only announced for North America and not Europe, though.

you act as thought EU players wont play this, its not like theyre going to IP ban EU players. youre on the same welcome level as west players

[Mortalis]

Is there anything from SoJ regarding people's fears about getting booted from the JP servers? Like did they put out some kind of word that they were planning on doing this? Because as far as I remember they were always pretty good about letting importers play. I mean it's technically against the terms of service but on PSU as long as you were quiet and respectful they didn't press it much.

[the_importer_]

It's a shame the game is only announced for North America and not Europe, though.

Probably legal issues regarding AC Scratches which are basically loot boxes at the end of the day.

[ArcaneTechs]

Is there anything from SoJ regarding people's fears about getting booted from the JP servers? Like did they put out some kind of word that they were planning on doing this? Because as far as I remember they were always pretty good about letting importers play. I mean it's technically against the terms of service but on PSU as long as you were quiet and respectful they didn't press it much.

no, its the fact that a West release was announced that everyone is on edge for no real reason. its not going to stop people from playing on there who actually real care to with or without a VPN.

if Sakai gets his initial intention for a Global server setup then thats the best people can hope for otherwise split servers

[Batty]

all content coming alongside it? i wonder if that also implies a western version of pso2es.

Also

Nintendo: we took one year to localize Monster Hunter XX, and we are not even releasing it in its original console

Sega: hold my sake

[Alis Landale]

Well I uh. Never saw this announcement coming. I'm still more confused than excited, but I'm glad the game is finally getting wider distribution. Have there ever been any real details on what happened with PSO2's international release? I remember rumors that SEGA's contract with Asiasoft restricted wider distribution, but other than that just eerie radio silence.

Still, cool that's finally getting an official NA release! It just feels so...random, after all this time.

[Yden]

That is funny. The game is already on PS4 and they would just have to change the language.

Kinda. There's also the additional step to get it approved for the NA store as well which could in theory run them into trouble with all the unclear guidelines on what's acceptable and what's not these days for Sony.

[Alis Landale]

I'm just reading "all content" to mean "up to Episode 6," not commenting either way on PSO2es. Which I'm not too concerned about. Whether it would stagger five episodes behind or just dump it all at once was a bigger question. I'm glad they decided on the latter.

[-Crokar-]

It's been so long since I've been here but I am excited that we are finally getting PSO2

[ArcaneTechs]

remember the Xbox version of PSU outlived the Playstation version which makes more sense to give it to Xbox over PS4 especially with Sony's current PC views

[wefwq]

Why even bother porting the game again? 7 years-old game that is.

[ArcaneTechs]

Why even bother porting the game again? 7 years-old game that is.

people still wanted this even though the option to play in English for 7yrs has been a thing and with no one getting banned just for being Gaijin unless you cheated or something else

[KaizoKage]

Did anyone forgot that tweaker already got a thing called "Telepipe proxy" so blocked IPs can connect to the game? no additional VPNs needed. In my case Im from SEA but Im using seiryl's proxy

[Aurorra]

I do kinda find it humorous that in Japan its on PC/PS4 and in the West it's on PC/Xbox.

PSO2 costumes are too lewd for Sony's new censorious practices in the west.

[Mortalis]

remember the Xbox version of PSU outlived the Playstation version which makes more sense to give it to Xbox over PS4 especially with Sony's current PC views

I mainly attribute that to hacks from the PC version though. PC\PS2 was running 3.5 full star servers until the hacking came around. Around the initial release of the 10* weapons. Then it almost completely collapsed. Xbox was free from hacks back then.

Edit: I've been almost completely out of the PSO2 loop regarding content. Are the costumes really that bad?

[Kazzi]

If they come in right at episode 6 the it takes away the entire experience of the game.

I can understand it not wanting to be 7 years behind but in the same sense it renders a huge amount of the content worthless and some of the EQs just simply won't work without the gear needed (mining base despair for example). Then there's genuinely fun content like challenge mode and Las Vegas that there's just no point touching or farming. It feels to me personally like jumping in is gonna take away the ability to get those fun experiences, huge hype and fond memories that those of us on JP got to have. I wonder how thatll affect the english playerbase and the immersion in the game. Many of us have stuck on the JP server because we've been there so long we've established that history and connection to the game. I stil remember fighting og profound darkness with my team, where we didnt skip the cutscenes and spent ages just take screenshots and talking about how far the game had come. You NEED those to keep player retention, people dont stick with games they have no attachment to.

I want it to succeed obviously im a dreamcast player, but I cant see it lasting past the initial hype. Not when people start comparing it, and they will, to games like ffxiv with higher budgets.

Oh and they're obvuously not gonna allow transfers for fairness and all the legal issues with collab content. I mean it'd be nice to have a cross server with JP but then you'll get people raging they cant afford the crouch emote.

[KEV1N]

About time. This is good news for people who haven't played it yet.

[ArcaneTechs]

I mainly attribute that to hacks from the PC version though. PC\PS2 was running 3.5 full star servers until the hacking came around. Around the initial release of the 10* weapons. Then it almost completely collapsed. Xbox was free from hacks back then.

well since it'll be crossplay we wont be able to eliminate the fact that this will occur again, the only issue sorta being one side (xbox) cant really do much and have to rely on Sega upping their security issues

[Jungo Torii]

Bruh.

Why the hell did it take this long? Practically makes for a good nostalgia trip for me personally at this point.

Glad people who never took the plunge will have an easier way to enjoy the game.

[KaizoKage]

Also remember, no more extra lewd stuff in the west. Most of them might get removed or censored lmao

[ArcaneTechs]

If they come in right at episode 6 the it takes away the entire experience of the game.

I can understand it not wanting to be 7 years behind but in the same sense it renders a huge amount of the content worthless and some of the EQs just simply won't work without the gear needed (mining base despair for example). Then there's genuinely fun content like challenge mode and Las Vegas that there's just no point touching or farming. It feels to me personally like jumping in is gonna take away the ability to get those fun experiences, huge hype and fond memories that those of us on JP got to have. I wonder how thatll affect the english playerbase and the immersion in the game. Many of us have stuck on the JP server because we've been there so long we've established that history and connection to the game. I stil remember fighting og profound darkness with my team, where we didnt skip the cutscenes and spent ages just take screenshots and talking about how far the game had come. You NEED those to keep player retention, people dont stick with games they have no attachment to.

I want it to succeed obviously im a dreamcast player, but I cant see it lasting past the initial hype. Not when people start comparing it, and they will, to games like ffxiv with higher budgets.

Oh and they're obvuously not gonna allow transfers for fairness and all the legal issues with collab content. I mean it'd be nice to have a cross server with JP but then you'll get people raging they cant afford the crouch emote.

theyre going to have LV95 cap first day and everything else readily available, not only that theyll most likely make a specific mode akin to Story Mode Omnibus specifically for West players and while yes some gear will be probably impossible to attain, they'll probably create an event or boost specific quests over a few months to get people familiarized with the game. They got plans we just dont know them


Also remember, no more extra lewd stuff in the west. Most of them might get removed or censored lmao

ya thats a real issue is the Wests stupid censorship on the things for games they dont even play

[S-T-H]

They said all the content, but I don't know if the implication is supposed to be day one. It's possible that they could release it at a somewhat accelerated rate.

Also, I'm looking forward to the announcement of PSO3 for Japan at TGS. I'd laugh so hard. Doubly so if it was PSU2.

[Zeota]

Congrats to the "waiters", I guess.

I hope I'm proven wrong here, and want this to succeed, but I don't see this lasting for too long. Anyone that was truly serious about playing (CAPTCHAs be damned) already has, or still does.

If they're going to jam in 7+ years worth of content, I sincerely hope they use a different form of progression.

I'll probably mess with it for like a week or so and be like "Oh man this part sucked back in the day!", and that will be that.

[Mortalis]

Congrats to the "waiters", I guess.

I hope I'm proven wrong here, and want this to succeed, but I don't see this lasting for too long. Anyone that was truly serious about playing (CAPTCHAs be damned) already has, or still does.

If they're going to jam in 7+ years worth of content, I sincerely hope they use a different form of progression.

I'll probably mess with it for like a week or so and be like "Oh man this part sucked back in the day!", and that will be that.

Thier best bet is to market this game towards people who dont know what PSO is IMO. Seven years is a long time and alot of younger gamers can look at this game as a new one that they never heard of before. There will be those who will go back because of PSO1 and PSU but the new players to the franchise is where the real untapped potential is.

SoA need to market this game hard because after PSU turned out to not be very profitable for them in the West, this one may be our last shot at a localized Phantasy Star game, and one that took almost a decade to get to us.

[Sakuraka]

Well found my reason to get up. I'm now unretired. Was waiting for a good reason to come out of hiding. Will post all the names on the Guild cards I have from DC & GCN when I get the time. "Welcome to PSO!" lol, I am sooo giddy.

Sakuraka
HUnuwearl
Whitill
PSO DC
Player since Wed. Jan. 31 2001

[ArcaneTechs]

With every year that passed, I was hoping I'd be wrong.

There are plenty of good things to worry about, but the biggest one is: Will they be global or not? If not, this is deliberate self sabotage on SoJ's part so they can point to the failure as an excuse for never localizing the series again. Starting THIS LATE in the game, even if they keep up with consistent updates, is just a bad move if the servers are segregated.
The game is already built to support up to 10 languages simultaneously, so very little work needs to be done on the programming side to make it global. That says nothing of legalities and such, especially with talk of laws about regulating loot boxes and other random chance things such as our loathed AC scratch.

In case of segregated servers combined with region blocking, if you have no plans to use a proxy to continue on JP, I'd recommend screenshotting all your character's proportion sliders and such in addition to saving salon data. We don't know which point we'd be starting from, so JP salon data may actually be incompatible. Late ep4 salon data wasn't compatible with the ep4 benchmark, after all.

like I said a few pages ago, Sakai wanted PSO2 to be global which im sure he's probably pushing for this time but who really knows how its actually going to play it until we get info about this again or if for some reason out of the blue they mention something in the next stream in July

[Shear]

... I'll be honest I checked the date to confirm if it was a late Aprils joke but this seems real.

For some reason.

The Words "All the Content" do intrigue me but this is a risky move no matter what.

[ArcaneTechs]

... I'll be honest I checked the date to confirm if it was a late Aprils joke but this seems real.

For some reason.

The Words "All the Content" do intrigue me but this is a risky move no matter what.

its better if they push everything out up to date content but apply a roadmap for Western players because its a helluva better choice than trying to go through each Ep over time to get people to experience the content like it was on release only to inevitably never catch up.

[the_importer_]

Also remember, no more extra lewd stuff in the west. Most of them might get removed or censored lmao

It's for XBONE and Windows 10, not the Soyne Politicalstation 4.

[jooozek]

what is this scam, this garbage isnt even coming to ps4/vita in west? i knew segac was bad but this is so bad its not even funny

[ArcaneTechs]

what is this scam, this garbage isnt even coming to ps4/vita in west? i knew segac was bad but this is so bad its not even funny

Vita dead bro, why even bring this up?

[Kazzi]

what is this scam, this garbage isnt even coming to ps4/vita in west? i knew segac was bad but this is so bad its not even funny

Raging about the PS Vita in the west... I can get the PS4 because it's actually good on PS4 I use it sometimes but the vita lol that's been discontinued for ages. I'd be more concerned if they're gonna add the PSO2es app because that was a good way to farm stuff on the go.

[S-T-H]

Btw, the homepage does say Xbox One and Windows 10. I'm not sure if we can expect the PC version will be the same thing but in English. They could be working on a new build based off a shared Win10/XB1 development platform.

Given the issues going on with loot boxes and such (and the EMEA thing), it's possible that they're figuring out some sort of alternatives for monetization.

I have doubts about linking up to (not sure if there's a better term for this but...) the baggage that the JP version has compounded over the years. They might end up modifying certain game systems to adapt to whatever strategy they're going for here. I don't know if anything would be radically different, but probably enough to make it incompatible with existing versions.

[modoru]

yikes @ this dude and his "soyne" spiel

anyway, the move to bring it over to the west (read: na) is a partnership with microsoft, so it makes sense they wouldn't have a sony/switch ver.

[Agastya]

i hope it's just an english client and they add like five or so ships hosted in NA. label old ships as JP-Whatever and new ones as NA-Whatever. i'll happily pay to transfer a character or two to a NA ship and hang out with you guys and play with lower latency but if it's a new server entirely i dunno if i'd have the patience to start over entirely.

iirc sakai wanted the game to be international to begin with but there were snags. microsoft has enough money to work around those and we'll be getting an up-to-date client so i have a vague glimmer of hope.

[ArcaneTechs]

Btw, the homepage does say Xbox One and Windows 10. I'm not sure if we can expect the PC version will be the same thing but in English. They could be working on a new build based off a shared Win10/XB1 development platform.

Given the issues going on with loot boxes and such (and the EMEA thing), it's possible that they're figuring out some sort of alternatives for monetization.

I have doubts about linking up to (not sure if there's a better term for this but...) the baggage that the JP version has compounded over the years. They might end up modifying certain game systems to adapt to whatever strategy they're going for here. I don't know if anything would be radically different, but probably enough to make it incompatible with existing versions.

theres almost no reason to not just use the JP model for the West release, it works out fine


yikes @ this dude and his "soyne" spiel

anyway, the move to bring it over to the west (read: na) is a partnership with microsoft, so it makes sense they wouldn't have a sony/switch ver.

maybe if Sony wasn't being super PC about everything you wouldnt have people act the way they do to them. They're even considering on going back and releasing censor patches for games already out on PS4, theres literally no reason to do this outside political agenda pushing. anyways im not trying to derail the thread into trash like this

[Shear]

its better if they push everything out up to date content but apply a roadmap for Western players because its a helluva better choice than trying to go through each Ep over time to get people to experience the content like it was on release only to inevitably never catch up.
I agree but I think it's a risky move because ... this is a 8 year old game that's wasn't exactly a technological marvel at release and hasn't aged well. I do would love to be wrong on this though.

[Great Pan]

After all the investment in lobby actions and costumes, nope. I AM NOT GONNA GO TO THAT WASTELAND.

[ArcaneTechs]

I agree but I think it's a risky move because ... this is a 8 year old game that's wasn't exactly a technological marvel at release and hasn't aged well. I do would love to be wrong on this though.

this game came out July 4th 2012 and ya i agree it kinda hasnt but its gotten somewhat better but COULD be better

[vantpers]

I, for one, hope western release won't take retarded measures like censoring outfits, and instead limit the game character creation to male only. That way we can concentrate on the outfits that really matter, and thankfully remove certain undesirables obsessed with their waifus.

[Agastya]

i'll happily pay to transfer a character or two to a NA ship and hang out with you guys

after having read the word "soyny" and "super PC" i have to rescind this statement. sorry for getting your hopes up neko

[ArcaneTechs]

I, for one, hope western release won't take retarded measures like censoring outfits, and instead limit the game character creation to male only. That way we can concentrate on the outfits that really matter, and thankfully remove certain undesirables obsessed with their waifus.

weak bait but it unfortunately worked

[GuardianGirth]

I couldnt resist.
https://youtu.be/8NLL8WlNZJ8

[ArcaneTechs]

why you have to be such a racist? can you at least not wear it on a sleeve



not as dead as pso2, 8 years btw

except pso2 isnt dead, its only gonna be 7yrs and Vita is irrelevant in 2019. get with the times

[Agastya]

someone's cranky they have a ps4 and not a xbone

[Mortalis]

So uh, back on topic...

Considering this'll be free to play, it shouldn't take too much effort for people to hop on and make a character even if they dont want to move over permanently. Just think if it like an alt and main on the JP server. If anything, it should be fun to be able to read everything that the translation patch doesn't hit. There were quite a few things when I played that werent translated that I was curious is about.

[Agastya]

So uh, back on topic...

Considering this'll be free to play, it shouldn't take too much effort for people to hop on and make a character even if they dont want to move over permanently. Just think if it like an alt and main on the JP server. If anything, it should be fun to be able to read everything that the translation patch doesn't hit. There were quite a few things when I played that werent translated that I was curious is about.

oh yeah dude absolutely

do you think they'll just put in-game subtitles on player voices? or boss vocal cues? i'd love to know what falz/omega hunar are saying while they're punching my bones in half

[ArcaneTechs]

i dont think a racist like you can call people dumb

curious, do you not have a gaming pc from all these years of playing that you're upset a PS4/Vita version wasnt announced or what?


I couldnt resist.
https://youtu.be/8NLL8WlNZJ8

this was a good watch

[jooozek]

curious, do you not have a gaming pc from all these years of playing that you're upset a PS4/Vita version wasnt announced or what?

what does this have to do with this SEGAC shitfire
but yes, i already play on my pc (i5 3570, GTX 660, 16GB DDR3)
they take 8 years and cant even port the ps4/vita versions, SEGAC living up to its name


Alright then, since you support practices of amish people and Muslims, I'll call you a sexist and homophobic, how do you like them apples?

dude, why not just stop, you clearly are a racist and somehow keep going in and trip over more with every post

[Mortalis]

oh yeah dude absolutely

do you think they'll just put in-game subtitles on player voices? or boss vocal cues? i'd love to know what falz/omega hunar are saying while they're punching my bones in half

I would hope it would be fully localized with voice overs. With 7 years to work with they only needed to do a line a day haha.

[Dark Priest]

weak bait but it unfortunately worked

Anyone who abuses the word "waifu" as a form of at an attempted insult is usually to retarded to be taken seriously, so it's much easier to ignore them.

[ArcaneTechs]

what does this have to do with this SEGAC shitfire
but yes, i already play on my pc (i5 3570, GTX 660, 16GB DDR3)
they take 8 years and cant even port the ps4/vita versions, SEGAC living up to its name


so whats the problem? its already released on those systems just not in the west and they probably want nothing to do with Sony's Wests Division bs anyways and rather side step around OR again realize their last game lasted longer on the Xbox and figured thats a safer bet. You literally got no reason to even be complaining if you're playing on PC which is essentially better than playing on the console but given you're old PC specs I can see why you would be mad

[Agastya]

I would hope it would be fully localized with voice overs. With 7 years to work with they only needed to do a line a day haha.

as long as we get the option between en/jp voice overs i'll be fine. i'll be really sad if i have to play without female extra voice 7's playful laughter while wand smacking

[Zorak000]

honestly anything could happen now

it could actually wind up being part of the main servers here somehow

microsoft just announced pso2 for NA at E3 in 2019; literally anything is possible now

[ArcaneTechs]

honestly anything could happen now

it could actually wind up being part of the main servers here somehow

microsoft just announced pso2 for NA at E3 in 2019; literally anything is possible now

id like to think that imaginary contract they had with SEA expired and that this is what was allowed to finally happen

[Uncle_bob]

despair, but also an erection

[S-T-H]

Few more things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtAsuCzmUVo

The trailer linked from the website is unlisted on the PhantasystarCh account, which is an interesting spot for it. Anyway...

Given the likely client change/upgrade and Microsoft/Azure, I'd say it's very likely that gameguard won't be a thing here. Assuming they don't just stream the entire game, it'll probably still at least have better/alternative security.

[the_importer_]

yikes @ this dude and his "soyne" spiel


Well, looks like the cleaning crew got here before I could reply, so we'll leave that previous part aside. But for the other part, you keep believing what you want to believe, just don't come crying to me when Japanese publishers move to Nintendo, iOS, Anrdoid and PC and leave you with nothing but sports and FPS on you system of choice.

[modoru]

as someone with multiple consoles... that's really a non-issue

in another subject - people foreign to the game are concerned about how microtransactions are being implemented to the game

are we expecting the same arks cash system, same items? depending on how they're handling the EU situation, would that affect NA release?

i'm going on the assumption that, at worst case, we have totally separate servers so they can afford to segregate these issues, anyway.

[Dark Priest]

as someone with multiple consoles... that's really a non-issue

in another subject - people foreign to the game are concerned about how microtransactions are being implemented to the game

are we expecting the same arks cash system, same items? depending on how they're handling the EU situation, would that affect NA release?

i'm going on the assumption that, at worst case, we have totally separate servers so they can afford to segregate these issues, anyway.

This game really isn't that much better, simple things like trading is off limits to those who don't fork up the cash, and selling items unless you go through a painful process just to get a shop ticket. it's just jps seems to be more forgiving on being exploited, This game has plenty of whales who happily toss cash at sega to sit in lobby afk to show what they spent all that money on.

The only credit i can give this game compared to other F2P trash is that it's tolorable to play without spending anything, provided you aren't weak willed.

[landman]

Glad this is alive in the west, even if it was late I felt this was necessary, specially thinking on the future of the series, a lot of Japanese only titles have been coming back or first released since Atlus USA became SOA (7th Dragon, Shining, Yakuza was almost a lost cause and look at the series now, Puyo Puyo, Valkyria, Sakura Taisen next year...), at this point I have no doubts sega west will deliver, and I can only hope sega japan will make more and better games.



I, for one, hope western release won't take retarded measures like censoring outfits, and instead limit the game character creation to male only. That way we can concentrate on the outfits that really matter, and thankfully remove certain undesirables obsessed with their waifus.

I'd welcome that server, specially looking forward all the trap shotas.

[Zaix]

I'd really given up on any thing coming west. I played several hundred hours back in the first year or 2 , but haven't played much since.

I'm definitely going to play the Xbox version, since I have several friends that I could never convince to play the jp PC version, and we are all very much looking forward to it

[the_importer_]

as someone with multiple consoles... that's really a non-issue
in another subject - people foreign to the game are concerned about how microtransactions are being implemented to the game
are we expecting the same arks cash system, same items? depending on how they're handling the EU situation, would that affect NA release?
i'm going on the assumption that, at worst case, we have totally separate servers so they can afford to segregate these issues, anyway.

Console of choice doesn't mean that you only have 1 console, it just means that you play with that console the most often. As for the loot box system, already covered that here: http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?238425-PSO2-on-west-XBOX-(and-PC-too-apparently-)-confirmed-on-Microsoft-E3&p=3465247#post3465247

Personally, I think they could keep AC but just sell the items instead of making them lotteries.

[Mortalis]

I'd really given up on any thing coming west. I played several hundred hours back in the first year or 2 , but haven't played much since.

I'm definitely going to play the Xbox version, since I have several friends that I could never convince to play the jp PC version, and we are all very much looking forward to it

I had that same problem. The one main friend I play games with is familiar with the Phantasy Star name but never really played the games. He was gonna hop on until he found out it was the japanese server, even with translations. There are probably a shit ton more people like that than not, so this isn't the waste some people are trying to describe it as.

[modoru]

This game really isn't that much better, simple things like trading is off limits to those who don't fork up the cash, and selling items unless you go through a painful process just to get a shop ticket. it's just jps seems to be more forgiving on being exploited, This game has plenty of whales who happily toss cash at sega to sit in lobby afk to show what they spent all that money on.

The only credit i can give this game compared to other F2P trash is that it's tolorable to play without spending anything, provided you aren't weak willed.
right, i'm aware

let me rephrase

the press release mentions microtransactions that will "aid in quests" - people who don't play the game are taking that as the cash shop having somehow different things that the current one doesn't have. from my perspective it's referencing RDRs, cosmo atomizers, half dolls and the like
but do you think they may alter the cash shop offerings with new/removed items specific to the NA version?

[ArcaneTechs]

right, i'm aware

let me rephrase

the press release mentions microtransactions that will "aid in quests" - people who don't play the game are taking that as the cash shop having somehow different things that the current one doesn't have. from my perspective it's referencing RDRs, cosmo atomizers, half dolls and the like
but do you think they may alter the cash shop offerings with new/removed items specific to the NA version?

thats the part we dont know if they'll actually do that or not, they could which they shouldnt but who knows

as long as they dont do the costume bonus stuff then i guess we're cool

[Cyron Tanryoku]

hahaha they fuckin did it haha madmen
really late tho theres like no benefit to switching over

especially if its just xbox and windows 10 (store?)

anyway yall ready for the region ip ban and tweaker c&d in a 2020 update?

[Dracos]

FINALLY!

[Kondibon]

Maybe people will shut up about it now.

[Mortalis]

Maybe people will shut up about it now.

That would defeat the purpose of localiz... Uh nevermind

[Kion]

Maybe people will shut up about it now. I don't think people will ever shut up.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

Maybe people will shut up about it now.
Don't worry, they now get to complain that they need windows 10 and an xbox and whine they didnt get the ps4 version or a steam version


or switch lmao

[Meteor Weapon]

thats the part we dont know if they'll actually do that or not, they could which they shouldnt but who knows

as long as they dont do the costume bonus stuff then i guess we're cool


Inb4 people finally buying cosmo atomizers out of ignorance lmao

also is this a good time to start worrying about IP blockage?

[Masu]

Don't worry, they now get to complain that they need windows 10 and an xbox and whine they didnt get the ps4 version or a steam version


or switch lmao

Where is it stated it will be for Win10?

[Zorak000]

honestly like 90% of all of my current gear I got was from the last 6 months; and 80% of that from the last 3 months. I've also always had known in the back of my head that my account could get locked out at any given day due to problems related to how early my account was created, so I've always kept track how much of a pain it would be to start over again

turns out its not nearly as big of a pain as you'd think.
crafts, affixes, and well cosmetics of course might be the only things that would be an actual pain to grind back out again.

my only reservation is well, I lived through Phantasy Star Universe's 360 servers, and I still have faint memories of PSOXbox's Eternal Christmas; so while I'll play the Microsoft version of PSO2 to hang out with people (assuming separate servers), I won't be abandoning this account here haha

[Shoterxx]

Where is it stated it will be for Win10?

The website shows Windows 10 specifically, but there is no confirmation on whether it is only 10.

[oslash]

a friend of mine got this email

https://imgur.com/a/zbI5NgS

did someone get this as well?

[Meteor Weapon]

please tell me thats a joke

[ArcaneTechs]

Inb4 people finally buying cosmo atomizers out of ignorance lmao

also is this a good time to start worrying about IP blockage?

doubtful but...


a friend of mine got this email

https://imgur.com/a/zbI5NgS

did someone get this as well?

this feels fake but ill check my e-mail

EDIT: so like that pic is fake as fuck but good try to freak out people, nothing in my e-mail about this

[oslash]

please tell me thats a joke

i really hope he's just trolling me, that why i'm asking, i didn´t get this email yet

[Masu]

The website shows Windows 10 specifically, but there is no confirmation on whether it is only 10.
O I missed it thanks...

[Anduril]

a friend of mine got this email

https://imgur.com/a/zbI5NgS

did someone get this as well?
The fact that it is in perfect English despite being auto-translated via Google Translate makes it obvious it is fake.

[Meteor Weapon]

Havent got any, but if they're seriously really gonna do that they're just stepping on a landmine. Remind them that PSO2 JP isnt just a game, if they do that they're cutting off us people who had friends with JP's on that server.

[Flaoc]

its fake guys. also i really cannot understand the mindset of people who chose to wait knowing they could have just played on the jp server in english. its not hard to use google handwrite tool to bypass the captcha boss. instead they choose to complain about no western release for years on end until this very day for absolutely no reason. also im not moving to en server unless this is shared servers and the content is always 100% up to date with jp servers until the end

[Shoterxx]

It's fake, the seams around the email are very visible.

[ArcaneTechs]

a friend of mine got this email

https://imgur.com/a/zbI5NgS

did someone get this as well?

a good try but remember thats not their e-mail, this is their real one:

pso2admin @ isao (dot) net

[S-T-H]

Phil Spencer:

Those of you who have played Phantasy Star know that this game has influenced many of the most popular games today.

Oh do I have comments about this, but we'll put it aside. Still, thanks Phil.

I see a lot of people commenting about how it's 7-8 years out from the JP release, but take this with some perspective. It's a game that came out as fairly high end for its circumstances and has seen improvements content-wise and otherwise since. It's still a unique title and even more so for XB1. There were absolutely other games in that presentation that are yet to be released and still don't meet the visual fidelity and overall quality that this game will have when it comes out here.

And it's free to play with a unique combination of themes. It fills a certain gap for Xbox with a known series that still has hype for its release. I bet Microsoft even considered making their own game to try and fill this gap to entice certain kinds of gamers. But take into consideration many of the games of this type coming out now and they still don't have this level of work put into them. I bet they could have put PSO v1 up on screen and people still would have applauded and been excited to play a game they already put 1000s of hours into two decades ago.

People are absolutely going to check this game out when it releases. And it's great that many of you have put so much into the JP release, but it doesn't really downplay the importance of the franchise being revived here even with a game that you already have two legs up on. If nothing else, this is an important milestone preceding whatever the next step in the franchise is.

I understand the game has highs and lows and will probably have conversion quirks on its way here (as well as PSU 360 demo players), but any of you dedicated enough to play on the JP servers should try to maintain a good attitude as it finally gets a local release because ideally the game will be a success outside of Japan and your versions will benefit from it too.

[Kondibon]

I'll check it out, but unless there are people I want to play with who are adamant about playing on the EN servers, I probably won't commit to it in any way. I'm personally more frustrated at the thought of losing all my tickets than equipment though.

[Meteor Weapon]

Phil Spencer:


Oh do I have comments about this, but we'll put it aside. Still, thanks Phil.

I see a lot of people commenting about how it's 7-8 years out from the JP release, but take this with some perspective. It's a game that came out as fairly high end for its circumstances and has seen improvements content-wise and otherwise since. It's still a unique title and even more so for XB1. There were absolutely other games in that presentation that are yet to be released and still don't meet the visual fidelity and overall quality that this game will have when it comes out here.

And it's free to play with a unique combination of themes. It fills a certain gap for Xbox with a known series that still has hype for its release. I bet Microsoft even considered making their own game to try and fill this gap to entice certain kinds of gamers. But take into consideration many of the games of this type coming out now and they still don't have this level of work put into them. I bet they could have put PSO v1 up on screen and people still would have applauded and been excited to play a game they already put 1000s of hours into two decades ago.

People are absolutely going to check this game out when it releases. And it's great that many of you have put so much into the JP release, but it doesn't really downplay the importance of the franchise being revived here even with a game that you already have two legs up on. If nothing else, this is an important milestone preceding whatever the next step in the franchise is.

I understand the game has highs and lows and will probably have conversion quirks on its way here (as well as PSU 360 demo players), but any of you dedicated enough to play on the JP servers should try to maintain a good attitude as it finally gets a local release because ideally the game will be a success outside of Japan and your versions will benefit from it too.

One thing that's a relief is that its by microsoft themselves and not some shit tier Third Party Publisher....like...nexon lol

[oslash]

a friend of mine got this email

https://imgur.com/a/zbI5NgS

did someone get this as well?

all right, he just decided to tell me that he didn't actually got this email, it was from someone else
so yeah, its just a troll

[blazingsonic]

This resurrected me.

[Blueblur]

I'm excited.

[Fujiko]

About damn time!

[Jungo Torii]

its fake guys. also i really cannot understand the mindset of people who chose to wait knowing they could have just played on the jp server in english. its not hard to use google handwrite tool to bypass the captcha boss. instead they choose to complain about no western release for years on end until this very day for absolutely no reason. also im not moving to en server unless this is shared servers and the content is always 100% up to date with jp servers until the end

I mean, while I would agree it's primarily laziness or lack of fucks given that stopped people from playing before, it's not something to really get that frustrated about. It's still more hoops to jump through than you would have to to play literally almost any other game; can't blame people that much.

The teaser trailer seemed to give the impression that all currently released content would be in the game, or at least a damn good portion of it, so I don't believe that will be an issue. But after eight years I can't even say keeping the servers synced up or shared really matters that much anymore. The majority of people who are probably going to be playing on the NA server won't have to worry about that in the first place.

[Griffin]

It's cool that you guys don't wanna leave your progress on JP servers. What isn't cool is insinuating that other people shouldn't be happy about the western announcement. That's borderline elitist and kinda sad. lol

[jooozek]

a good try but remember thats not their e-mail, this is their real one:

pso2admin @ isao (dot) net

that email address is real i got shit from it in the past too when i had to get activation code
email itself fake

https://i.imgur.com/VyrN9qv.png

[Ransu]

It's cool that you guys don't wanna leave your progress on JP servers. What isn't cool is insinuating that other people shouldn't be happy about the western announcement. That's borderline elitist and kinda sad. lol

Literally no one is insinuating that. We're glad you lazy people can finally play PSO2 in English when it has been available for nearly a decade. The only issue comes from potentially losing progress and moving to a server that could potentially go the way of SEA.

[ArcaneTechs]

that email address is real i got shit from it in the past too when i had to get activation code
email itself fake

the e-mail in the pic is fake, the one i posted is the real one

[jooozek]

the e-mail in the pic is fake, the one i posted is the real one

i edited my post with pic

[Griffin]

Literally no one is insinuating that. We're glad you lazy people can finally play PSO2 in English when it has been available for nearly a decade. The only issue comes from potentially losing progress and moving to a server that could potentially go the way of SEA.

The problem with your comments is that ya'll assume it's laziness as to why people chose not to play on JP servers. Sure, anybody can watch a video and learn how to install and play. You're right, the concern is losing their progress due to an IP block, a concern that has you current JP server players sweatin'.

[Mortalis]

Literally no one is insinuating that. We're glad you lazy people can finally play PSO2 in English when it has been available for nearly a decade. The only issue comes from potentially losing progress and moving to a server that could potentially go the way of SEA.

Its not even laziness. I downloaded and played PSO2 on the JP server and it's not all translated. Not to take away from the translators efforts, they did a great job. But not having all the story/diologue/whatever else took away from my interest level. To insinuate that it's pure laziness and nothing else is just flat out wrong.

Glad you were able to enjoy it to it's fullest though.

[modoru]

Where is it stated it will be for Win10?

it's likely going to be released via the windows store app, which is win10 specific

but the game uses its own launcher so.... who knows?
the game doesn't require dx12 so it's definitely not an OS restriction at a functional level

[Dark Priest]

i edited my post with pic

Editing it does not make it any less fake, are you THAT gullible?

[jooozek]

Editing it does not make it any less fake, are you THAT gullible?

dude, what the fuck are you talking about? where does gullible come from
1. i said the EMAIL ITSELF IS FAKE
2. the EMAIL ADDRESS IS REAL

[Anduril]

Editing it does not make it any less fake, are you THAT gullible?

joozek was correcting Kril's statement that the email address @pso2gs.net was fake.
@isao.net is used for the usual newsletters while @pso2gs.net is used for account related issues (like new machine log-in codes).

[ArcaneTechs]

i edited my post with pic


joozek was correcting Kril's statement that the email address @pso2gs.net was fake.
@isao.net is used for the usual newsletters while @pso2gs.net is used for account related issues (like new machine log-in codes).

i dont have this e-mail so ya, if it happens oh well, wont stop me from playing JP still.

[Dark Priest]

joozek was correcting Kril's statement that the email address @pso2gs.net was fake.
@isao.net is used for the usual newsletters while @pso2gs.net is used for account related issues (like new machine log-in codes).

I see, thank you for stating that in a none hissy fit response, i appreciate it.

[Ransu]

Its not even laziness. I downloaded and played PSO2 on the JP server and it's not all translated. Not to take away from the translators efforts, they did a great job. But not having all the story/diologue/whatever else took away from my interest level. To insinuate that it's pure laziness and nothing else is just flat out wrong.

Glad you were able to enjoy it to it's fullest though.

Thank you for being glad. And I don't even play with the English Patch but I'm pretty sure majority of the game up till now is translated. There has been nothing stopping anyone from playing other than some personal gripe with patches or again, laziness. It's good the game is going to be available in NA but for years now when people complained and were pointed in the right direction they continue to be ignorant. It's good it's all going to come to a stop now.

[jooozek]

I see, thank you for stating that in a none hissy fit response, i appreciate it.

i didnt come here spreading fake news about real important email address like you and throwing an actual hissy fit about "gullible" people while being gullible

[SteveCZ]

So it's real, huh? Well, congrats. :bday:

[Mikedot]

Damn, it's been awhile since I posted anything here, but I will just post here to say that I am interested in playing PSO2 come next year.
I probably won't be big into it like I would have been six or seven years ago, but I'll be happy to play and support an official NA server. I really do hope they manage to get most, if not all of the content that the JP version has.

[Jungo Torii]

The problem with your comments is that ya'll assume it's laziness as to why people chose not to play on JP servers. Sure, anybody can watch a video and learn how to install and play. You're right, the concern is whether or not someone wants to risk losing their progress due to an IP block, a concern that has you current JP server players sweatin'.

To be entirely fair, before today's curveball, I'm pretty sure a lot of fans had already long since resigned to either never getting an official localization or just applying the tweaker or whatever and diving in, so for a pretty long time, any notion of lost progress was not something anyone had to worry about regardless. It's going to have been 8 years (a long-ass time) since this game first released when it finally comes out officially here; I just find it kind of surprising that more people never bit the bullet when hope seemed to start fading for a while.

Maybe it's just a matter of wording, because I don't mean to imply some sort of derision towards people who never bothered jumping through captcha and translation hoops. Like I said, I might think it's lazy, but I've grown pretty lazy as I've gotten older anyway. I know I'm not going to bother to consult Google Translate and then get a fake Japanese address AND THEN learn hiragana to pass a captcha AND THEN finally finish making my JP PSO2 account just to finally get to playing the game anymore. Most people really don't have the patience for that, even if it doesn't take that long in reality. It just takes less time to play something else you enjoy instead, which is entirely understandable.

[Dark Priest]

i didnt come here spreading fake news about real important email address like you and throwing an actual hissy fit about "gullible" people while being gullible

Please point out where i spread "fake news" about that, In addition to needing to understand what you say before you speak, you also need to actually learn what a hissy fit is, i'm not even sure you understand gullible either. as none of those applied to me,

Please think before you post, kiddo.

[landman]

I'm grateful to all the effort put into fan translations, I enjoyed the game's story thanks to them, but not a single time I've played through the story have I not needed to use google translate because broken patches or whatever (right now Alma's omnibus scenes for episode 2 are mostly in japanese), and right now I'm glad I will be able to enjoy an official localisation. Time to kill D-arkers :wacko:

[Stormwalker]

So uh, back on topic...

Considering this'll be free to play, it shouldn't take too much effort for people to hop on and make a character even if they dont want to move over permanently. Just think if it like an alt and main on the JP server. If anything, it should be fun to be able to read everything that the translation patch doesn't hit. There were quite a few things when I played that werent translated that I was curious is about.

I will doubtless play some on the NA servers (and even spend some money there) just to support the game and the hope of some future for Phantasy Star in the West.

Definitely not leaving the JP servers, though, or giving up all the hours I've put into my characters there.

[Meteor Weapon]

Time to kill D-arkers :wacko:

having read Darkers all the time, D-arkers feels terrible to read.

[Kondibon]

I'm actually really curious what they're going to do about the translation, because SEA's had a... reputation, but that could have just been localized by the publisher.

[Ransu]

I'm actually really curious what they're going to do about the translation, because SEA's had a... reputation, but that could have just been localized by the publisher.

It's time for Dark Falz [Mask]

[Dark Priest]

having read Darkers all the time, D-arkers feels terrible to read.

don't tell me the word "darkers" was some kind of problem.. is this one of those "let's get offended at stupid crap" i heard about a while back?

[DaMan]

Looking forward to this, and it definitely came out of left field as a surprise.

[the_importer_]

having read Darkers all the time, D-arkers feels terrible to read.

Wait what?

Also, anybody else noticed this:

[spoiler-box]https://i.postimg.cc/bw1SmbCR/2019-06-09-23-30-00-Phantasy-Star-Online-2-E3-2019-Reveal-Traile.png[/spoiler-box]

Hope this is just for data save and not hosting the entire game client or this would mean that this is going to be the fucking cloud version.

[SteveCZ]

Imo, western players migration to west version from JP version is probably not even a concern of whether this west version will be successful or not, nor it will affect much the english population in JP version. The least that players who play in JP servers do are having a new account and try it out, and be a hero to all of the new players (teaching new players, be (or acting like) the expert, etc.,).

This is more targeted to:
1. those who want it to be in the west but never/barely touched PSO2 JP or can't even get passed the captcha boss
2. players who don't even know what PSO2 is all about.

[Mortalis]

I think it was a joke like De Ragan instead of Dragon in PSU

[Mortalis]

Imo, western players migration to west version from JP version is probably not even a concern of whether this west version will be successful or not, nor it will affect much the english population in JP version. The least that players who play in JP servers do are having a new account and try it out, and be a hero to all of the new players (teaching new players, be (or acting like) the expert, etc.,).

This is more targeted to:
1. those who want it to be in the west but never/barely touched PSO2 JP or can't even get passed the captcha boss
2. players who don't even know what PSO2 is all about.

I think how popular Monster Hunter World got in the West will kind of help PSO2 out. They're not the same genre per say but they're close enough for people to be interested imo.

[Zeke154]

It's been a long since I've logged in to post anything, I stop playing a month after the AIS were released. I got pretty far with my character, but I don't mind starting over on the NA Server and supporting more Phantasy Star content in the west. Especially since I deleted the email tied to my JP account, meaning I can't get that character/account back, even if I did want to play on the JP server again.

[Lumpen Thingy]

looking forward to sega of america fucking this up one way or another

[trypticon]

Interesting.

[Meteor Weapon]

don't tell me the word "darkers" was some kind of problem.. is this one of those "let's get offended at stupid crap" i heard about a while back?

I meant that D-Arkers just felt weird to read compared to Darkers, I might have worded it wrong.

[SteveCZ]

I think how popular Monster Hunter World got in the West will kind of help PSO2 out. They're not the same genre per say but they're close enough for people to be interested imo.

Yeah, I agree that this can actually correlate. I mean both MHW and PSO2 are good PvE game.

[Yden]

Wait what?

Also, anybody else noticed this:

[spoiler-box]https://i.postimg.cc/bw1SmbCR/2019-06-09-23-30-00-Phantasy-Star-Online-2-E3-2019-Reveal-Traile.png[/spoiler-box]

Hope this is just for data save and not hosting the entire game client or this would mean that this is going to be the fucking cloud version.

I assume you're thinking of xCloud, their upcoming streaming game service. Azure is just the name of MS's cloud hosting service, basically their version of Google Cloud or Amazon Web Services. I assume part of them bringing over PSO2 is to advertise it to try to take some marketshare back from AWS.

[Demon-]

Did I wake up in a different reality this morning.

[EvilMag]

oh my god guys
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/382076293287510016/587480874833149953/unknown.png

[modoru]

that's a bit aggressive

[the_importer_]

that's a bit aggressive

WTF, this was funny as hell! But then again, it's past midnight here and I'm tried, so what do I know?

[ArcaneTechs]

oh my god guys
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/382076293287510016/587480874833149953/unknown.png

good laugh

[Hatemachine]

Been waiting 7 years for this, between filling the void left by PSU with pathetic imitations like destiny & Warframe, I am wholly glad to be back onboard with the Phantasy star series.

Now if would just come out for Switch I'd be happy enough to be truly considered MORE than happy, whoch would involve me jibbering like a maniac & a straight jacket being needed to contain the pure joy.

[Zangor17]

So what was the general consensus on a potential IP block? I'm seeing a lot of Sega not really caring and that the SEA one was from the SEA publisher pushing Sega for one? Also seeing that past games like PSU didn't really have any barriers just existed separately. Really I hope nothing happens and Sega and MS just let the game operate as it always has while embracing a new community from the NA server. Either way I dont see myself dropping JP to run to an english server, maybe just have an account to play some story stuff translated but I like so many here have sunk too much time into JP to drop it.

[Ransu]

oh my god guys
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/382076293287510016/587480874833149953/unknown.png

Okay this is funny among all the confusing feels surrounding this

[modoru]

So what was the general consensus on a potential IP block? I'm seeing a lot of Sega not really caring and that the SEA one was from the SEA publisher pushing Sega for one? Also seeing that past games like PSU didn't really have any barriers just existed separately. Really I hope nothing happens and Sega and MS just let the game operate as it always has while embracing a new community from the NA server. Either way I dont see myself dropping JP to run to an english server, maybe just have an account to play some story stuff translated but I like so many here have sunk too much time into JP to drop it.


The IP block on China was an attempt to stop RMT, and the one on SEA was at AsiaSoft's request, so unless SoA or Microsoft request there be a block (which neither did during the PSU era), then I doubt they would put one up just becuase there is an NA server.

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[MadDogg]

Man....I haven't posted on these forums in god knows how long. Been waiting years for a PSO2 localization, and honestly, I gave up....yet, here we are. It feels......I don't know, a mix of weird, happy, sad, and like, stupefied? lmao.

[ArcaneTechs]

so apparently the West release is Xbox One/PC exclusive only:
"Xbox boss Phil Spencer made a huge deal about PSO2's launch being only Xbox One-exclusive on consoles"

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/phantasy-star-online-2-is-coming-xbox-one-in-spring-2020

and not only that, nothing Sony related has been anywhere in sight to indicate it coming to PS4. If I had to guess at best for Sony fans its a timed exclusive but even if you wanted to play, make a JP PSN account but naturally expect no translations. Sony fans have a PC version to play too if they want to that bad or just throw a fit and not play it all since it is already on the PS4/Vita and Switch

[GHNeko]

well

this is neat

10k+ hours in this game over the course of several years is in the balance. no reason for me to start over considering the amount i've spent on this game. and i dont have the motivation or dedication to balance 2 accounts on 2 servers.

ideally they merge but who knows because Sega is a wild card in so many senses.

[Kondibon]

ideally they merge but who knows because Sega is a wild card in so many senses.Considering the way they talked about it, and how stingey Sony can be about crossplay, I find that unlikely.

[Nicktendonick]

Considering the way they talked about it, and how stingey Sony can be about crossplay, I find that unlikely.
Most likely it'll be just like the Sony and Nintendo versions. They can interact with the PC version, but not from other systems. *shrugs* I'm fine with that.

[S-T-H]

There is one other possibility I can think of. They could try pushing their cloud streaming service as well by backing a western Switch version.

Microsoft has recently been passing the idea around of bringing Xbox Live to the Switch and we already have Minecraft with crossplay. They may already have the means to make this work at some point down the road. If they did manage to get something like that out, it would be a good way to show off their tech.

[Zyrusticae]

I literally just jumped back into the JP version a couple weeks ago. Funny how that works out.

I just can't fathom starting back over from scratch. I'll probably fuck around with the NA version just for the novelty of it, but, like, I'm expecting a PSO3 announcement sometime soon, so...

[ArcaneTechs]

I literally just jumped back into the JP version a couple weeks ago. Funny how that works out.

I just can't fathom starting back over from scratch. I'll probably fuck around with the NA version just for the novelty of it, but, like, I'm expecting a PSO3 announcement sometime soon, so...

they already talked about extending the games lifespan beyond the initial 10yr plan which given the the West release, seems very likely now. maybe pso3 in 2025?

[GHNeko]

Considering the way they talked about it, and how stingey Sony can be about crossplay, I find that unlikely.

I mean couldn't they just do the whole "platform exclusive" block thing yet again? They did it with Cloud and Vita and PS4. Xbox would be no different, no?

[NightfallG]

gonna be the like 50th person hoping they don't do another region lock, but aside from that this is cool and good, hopefully it gets people to give the Phantasy Star IP a shot and nets it some more fans.

[S-T-H]

Also, regarding Windows 10:

Windows XP support ended April 8, 2014. Windows 7 mainstream support ended January 13, 2015 and extended support ends January 14, 2020. Windows 8.1 mainstream support ended January 9, 2018. Etc, etc.

I don't expect the Microsoft build to carry on any support for deprecated versions of Windows. The game has to be ported to Xbox One and that's the version that Windows 10 would get by extension. So the game would probably use whatever they normally do for security and updating. Just as well, while I don't expect a remake/remaster, there will likely be some minor graphical changes/upgrades. Things like lighting/shaders might be different.

So while the PC version doesn't require much right now, I do expect some new minimum requirements for this version. Aside from Windows 10, possibly a newer version of DirectX and whatnot.

[PrinceBrightstar]

Here's my take on things


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46NXrK8g-EQ

[ArcaneTechs]

Also, regarding Windows 10:

Windows XP support ended April 8, 2014. Windows 7 mainstream support ended January 13, 2015 and extended support ends January 14, 2020. Windows 8.1 mainstream support ended January 9, 2018. Etc, etc.

I don't expect the Microsoft build to carry on any support for deprecated versions of Windows. The game has to be ported to Xbox One and that's the version that Windows 10 would get by extension. So the game would probably use whatever they normally do for security and updating. Just as well, while I don't expect a remake/remaster, there will likely be some minor graphical changes/upgrades. Things like lighting/shaders might be different.

So while the PC version doesn't require much right now, I do expect some new minimum requirements for this version. Aside from Windows 10, possibly a newer version of DirectX and whatnot.

people already on Win10 on Setting 6 (maximum you can get) so i dont think there will be any kind of graphical update at all unless Sega actually decides to do so which last I heard had no plans for it but this game isnt hitting till next year and we still got a good amount of content through the rest of 2019 so i wouldnt doubt Setting 7 hits toward the end of the year

[Kondibon]

I mean couldn't they just do the whole "platform exclusive" block thing yet again? They did it with Cloud and Vita and PS4. Xbox would be no different, no?
As far as I know, the cloud streaming service on the switch didn't have its own servers, that's part of why it wasn't a proper port. So if this ends up actually being streamed maybe, but streaming services aren't going to work well for a game like this in the US just due to how tangled our net is, and how big the US is compared to JP or Korea.

[Zyrusticae]

they already talked about extending the games lifespan beyond the initial 10yr plan which given the the West release, seems very likely now. maybe pso3 in 2025?
They can run a sequel concurrently with the old game. They did do that with PSU and PSO2 running side-by-side for quite some time.

[zandra117]

it seems that sony and microsoft recently agreed to allow playstation to use azure

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-19/sony-s-deal-with-microsoft-blindsided-its-own-playstation-team

the companies announced a strategic partnership to co-develop game streaming technology and host some of PlayStation’s online services on the Redmond-based company’s Azure cloud platform.

[Kondibon]

it seems that sony and microsoft recently agreed to allow playstation to use azure

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-19/sony-s-deal-with-microsoft-blindsided-its-own-playstation-teamWell, fuck me then. I'm still not expecting JP and NA servers to be the same, but this at least means there's potential for crossplay if a PS4 version comes out in english.

[Anduril]

They can run a sequel concurrently with the old game. They did do that with PSU and PSO2 running side-by-side for quite some time.

They actually only were up concurrently for a little under 3 months, and even then, the closure of the PSU servers was announced less than a month after PSO2 officially launched.
PSOBB on the other hand did run concurrently with PSU for over 4 years.

[xenokai]

Haven't been on these forums in probably 5 years or longer and I had to come back and say I am so ready for this. Seriously I teared up when this was announced. Thank you Microsoft for this! It is only possible because of them as it is using the MS Azure servers. So yes THANK YOU MICROSOFT!!!! and Sega I guess? Even tho a west release was promised a long time ago sega.... lmao

[Flatflyer]

oh man, i was not expecting this.

hoping for a global server/character transfer so we get to keep our characters as im not keen on leaving behind my account I've already dumped a couple hundred dollars and thousands of hours into.

otherwise if its just kept up to date with the JP version then hopefully it'll allow the tweaker devs to easily translate the game for those of us still sticking with JP.

[ralf542]

Another game version with EQ's in times when I work or sleep and maybe we even get the glorious UWP. Can I at least use the Blu-ray item codes for Aika Hair 2?

Global transfer won't work because it will break the balance/economy.

[landman]

If the game will be streaming exclusive, of course that would mean a lot of people will not be able to play, but in the other hand, a Cloud exclusive game server would mean no cheats at all, unless we include game glitches which PSU had (grinder dupe, infinite mech), and we know how PSU PC died in two months and PSU 360 kicked some for a few extra years.

[XrosBlader821]

as long as the game launches in EP6 i'll be fine switching servers. Bot gonna bother if they gonna launch with EP5

[TakemiShinnosuke]

so the western world will have their own servers huh?? so meaning what asians ( JP and south east asia basically easterners ) on one sever and westerners on the other ...

but if western players have characters on the eastern servers then how it work? character transfer ?? or restart.

if its a restart , lol alot of incoming butt hurt

I second this

[GHNeko]

so the western world will have their own servers huh?? so meaning what asians ( JP and south east asia basically easterners ) on one sever and westerners on the other ...

I second this

why would you support seperated servers lol

[TakemiShinnosuke]

why would you support seperated servers lol

(JP) SHip 2 can be rescued when the western server opens

[TakemiShinnosuke]

The IP block on China was an attempt to stop RMT, and the one on SEA was at AsiaSoft's request, so unless SoA or Microsoft request there be a block (which neither did during the PSU era), then I doubt they would put one up just becuase there is an NA server.

Asiasoft ( SEA ) sever is already closed. Well was closed about 2 years ago. So I wonder why the IP ban is still there

https://mmoculture.com/2017/04/phantasy-star-online-2-asiasoft-announces-closure-of-sea-server/

[quickasker]

how are they going to move the voice? all english voice only? that'll be awkward. try the recent Akhtar voice and translate it to engrish


on other hands, i already spent 8k+ hours on this. not gonna bother west version
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https://i.ibb.co/CvHxXDN/stop.jpg

[TakemiShinnosuke]

how are they going to move the voice? all english voice only? that'll be awkward. try the recent Akhtar voice and translate it to english

get english VA's and use google translate ( haha I am a bad troll )

[final_attack]

I wonder if Microsoft will be hosting things like PS Vita (separate blocks for Western version, and a few blocks for crossing to meet with JP servers) ..... maybe to promote their Azure-thingy to JP PSO2 too .... though that seems very very unlikely.

[Novajone]

Sega not yet confirmed this game gonna be out for Europe and am more slightly confused about it right now .

[Dark Mits]

Hopefully not late to also reveal my surprised face. And congrats to everyone who put all of us naysayers in our place. This is a good outcome for all PSO communities. Also wow, 20+ pages, this will be along read

[NightlightPro]

a friend of mine wanted to play this but he said that he'd only do it if the game were officially released in english. now let's see if he's gonna be playing the western release..

[WHlTEKNIGHT]

Finally.... I was too lazy (and old) to play on the jp server but this USA only speak on Twitter has me a bit nervous :/

[Karen Erra]

While this is all fine and dandy for all those people who "haven't been able" to play this game because of a non-exisiting language barrier (a.k.a English Patch)
and latency issues (which aren't all that bad), I wonder how this is going to work.

Even if the game will extend from it's original lifespan of 10 years because of this, the game is probably still half-dead already. Bringing this up for release 8 years
after the original release is just extra weird.

I can't see the western version being on shared servers with the japanese version and thus at least to me it's not an option to go over to the western version
to start over from scratch. Not feeling like letting ~7500 hours of gameplay going to waste, really. So unless there is going to be some kind of shared blocks or whatever
this is a no-go and I'm sure a bunch of other western players will feel that way too.

Also the "powered by Azure" kinda worries me too - if it's really going to be cloud-based with Microsofts Azure technology and not an independant game with dedicated
game servers, this may cause latency or "you are not able to connect"-issues just like the Switch version in Japan.

Unless things come differently as I'm expecting them, I guess I'll just stick to be a gaijin on japan servers, rather than starting over on a game version that
may die anyway because of lack of interest in the west. :wacko:

[Shoterxx]

FYI, there is literally no technical reason for PSO2 NOT to support Windows 7 and 8.1. The game still uses DirectX 9, 32-bit, and that's unlikely to change, unless Microsoft has a direct hand in the game development.

That said, I bet it'll somehow be locked in a UWP format, just to shove Windows 10 down our throats.

[Mortalis]

While this is all fine and dandy for all those people who "haven't been able" to play this game because of a non-exisiting language barrier (a.k.a English Patch)
and latency issues (which aren't all that bad), I wonder how this is going to work.

I dont understand why this train of thought is so prevalent on PSO-World. Its like some people took people not wanting to use the English patch as a slight against them or the game. Ive been on multiple other subreddits and have seen reactions elsewhere that are nothing but happy.

[SteveCZ]

Also the "powered by Azure" kinda worries me too - if it's really going to be cloud-based with Microsofts Azure technology and not an independant game with dedicated
game servers, this may cause latency or "you are not able to connect"-issues just like the Switch version in Japan.

This has a good chance to be true. It's unusual to promote SaaS for gaming if not for currently hot topic in particularly related technology which is cloud gaming, especially after Google Stadia is announced. Recently related news here (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/09/microsoft-unveils-deep-dive-into-cloud-gaming-with-its-own-google-stadia-competitor.html). Not to mention the game has been battle tested with such feature which give them reason to make the same bet regardless of the disadvantages we have faced or the Japanese themselves.

... or it's simply the game server on Azure cause Microsoft is the exclusive sponsor, or simply both.

Speculations at best, so we can just wait until it really happens. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[TakemiShinnosuke]

Unless things come differently as I'm expecting them, I guess I'll just stick to be a gaijin on japan servers, rather than starting over on a game version that
may die anyway because of lack of interest in the west.


if it dies then its gonna be joke. To get what you want and not use it ( or play it in this case ) makes one wonder why keep bugging for something that you are not gonna touch in the first place lol

[Veriti]

I wonder how the EQ schedule will work somewhere with multiple time zones that need to be covered. Scheduled EQs all day and no randoms to be fair to everyone?

[Mortalis]

I wonder how the EQ schedule will work somewhere with multiple time zones that need to be covered. Scheduled EQs all day and no randoms to be fair to everyone?

PST I would guess. SoA usually uses that time zone.

[kevlar_pso]

My son texted me the E3 reveal. I gave up trying to put the game on my Vita last year. I may need to buy a second Xbox One for this.
🤔
I wonder if I will run into any of my old mates from Dreamcast/GameCube/Xbox?