Food for Thought, Politics, and Names

[Reenee]

Who is the childish moron that came up with Freedom Fries? To me, it's a poor attempt at patriotism.

So the French government backed out of helping or whatever it is they were doing before the Second Gulf War. So what? Everyone is entitled to have their own opinions and actions. Did the French government cause something to happen by not supporting the war? I don't see anything. So why are some idiots taunting them by unofficially renaming foods that have the word "French" in them? It's stupid.

I'm not supporting the French, nor am I being patriotic. I'm pissed off at the fact that we can't think for ourselves without being made fun of.


Oh, and here's a real kicker: there's this town in Easter U.S. (I think) which is named something along the lines of Burgertown or something. Some popular pro-Vegan group in the U.S. wants to rename it to Veggietown because of, well, to prevent us to think about eating meat and eat our vegetables.

o_O

Those type of people are...paranoid or something. Gee, I bet it sounded cute on paper.

[s3rial_one]

Yeah, I agree, "Freedom Fries" is a damned embarassment. It's not patriotism, it's commercialism. And these people who think waving a flag, Freedom Fries, and mindless subservience to whatever incompetant assclown we've got in the presidency constitute patriotism ought to have "stupid fascist" tattooed on their foreheads, so those of us that can actually tell the difference can avoid them.

...then again, this entire country is designed to accomodate the lowest common denominator. On the whole, we encourage stupidity, mindless conformity, and active discourage anaylitical thought. The US is a country created by bright, determined, and thoughtful people, that has fallen under control of all that is stupid, lazy, and corporate. The only thing suprising me about "Freedom Fries" is that some fast food joint hasn't licensed and marketed them to the public.

As for the town renaming, that's PETA for you. Those people are fucking nuts; for every reasonably sane thing they do, they have 10 more inane, obnoxious or spiteful actions that spoil any semblance of credibility.

[KodiaX987]

Dead horse.

[Nawms]

On 2003-05-12 09:12, KodiaX987 wrote:
Dead horse.



No

And freedom fries are cool. The French made a big mistake.

[Reenee]

Back up your statement.

[neko-chan]

VINCENT
[...] In Paris, you can buy
beer at MacDonald's. Also, you
know what they call a Quarter
Pounder with Cheese in Paris?

JULES
They don't call it a Quarter
Pounder with Cheese?

VINCENT
No, they got the metric system
there, they wouldn't know what the
fuck a Quarter Pounder is.

JULES
What'd they call it?

VINCENT
Royale with Cheese.

JULES
(repeating)
Royale with Cheese. What'd they
call a Big Mac?

VINCENT
Big Mac's a Big Mac, but they call
it Le Big Mac.

JULES
What do they call a Whopper?

VINCENT
I dunno, I didn't go into a Burger
King.

"Freedom Fries", uh? Has anyone found any chemical weapon or bio-weapon in Iraq, yet?

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[Dimeris]

- Gallic Wars
- Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

- Hundred Years War
- Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman." Sainted.

- Italian Wars
- Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.

- Wars of Religion
- France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots

- Thirty Years War
- France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

- War of Revolution
- Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.

- The Dutch War
- Tied

- War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War
- Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

- War of the Spanish Succession
- Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.

- American Revolution
- In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

- French Revolution
- Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

- The Napoleonic Wars
- Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

- The Franco-Prussian War
- Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

- World War I
- Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

- World War II
- Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

- War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

- Algerian Rebellion
- Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

- War on Terrorism
- France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.

Its no wonder they dont want to fight



The question for any country silly enough to count on the French should not be "Can we count on the French?", but rather "How long until France collapses?"

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. All you do is leave behind a lot of noisy baggage."

Or, better still, the quote from last week's Wall Street Journal: "They're there when they need you."


Further more have we found chem/bio weapons in iraq no....so i suppose we should have let saddams terror squads continue to rape and kill women and children huh?

Freedom frys are 100% cool with me due to right to free speach. it may sound stupid but hell its the peoples right...they could call them
the french army is a worthless pie of garbage frys and id still not care....

it comes down to if you dont like what people say dont listen to them if you still do and get huffy about what they say you can always move to france

[Guile]

That whole freedom fries shit was so stupid..it's not funny

[Orange_Coconut]

As for the town renaming, that's PETA for you. Those people are fucking nuts; for every reasonably sane thing they do, they have 10 more inane, obnoxious or spiteful actions that spoil any semblance of credibility.



Man you're right about that. I remember my friend telling me about some incident with minks in the city or something? I can't remember... Oh yeah and that commercial about keep cats "under control"... That was the strangest and most disturbing commercial I had ever seen.

[s3rial_one]

Way to plagarize 90% of your post, Dimeris...

[neko-chan]

On 2003-05-12 22:42, Dimeris wrote:
France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.

So, uhm...


No discriminatory or derogatory remarks. Racist remarks, deragotory statements about another religion or belief, or ethnocentrism will result in banning.

If you really feel the urge to make fun of a certain country, please, use your own country as target.

Hope you get a warning for this.

[Dimeris]

way to whine in 100% s3rial_one

[Guntz348]

On 2003-05-13 08:37, neko-chan wrote:


On 2003-05-12 22:42, Dimeris wrote:
France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.

So, uhm...


No discriminatory or derogatory remarks. Racist remarks, deragotory statements about another religion or belief, or ethnocentrism will result in banning.

If you really feel the urge to make fun of a certain country, please, use your own country as target.

Hope you get a warning for this.



Meh, if that's history and those facts are true (I'll admit I'm not an expert on french history), then what can you really do? It's not really racist or discriminatory or derogatory if he's stating actual facts. I mean many American Indians were killed by settlers, black people were killed and ensalved, and Japanese people were forced into prison camps during WW2. It sucks but it's history.

[neko-chan]

On 2003-05-13 08:51, Guntz348 wrote:
It sucks but it's history.

OK, it's history. So, let's start by saying that Dimeris is good at copying and pasting but he doesn't know what he's talking about. Because, like it or not, Romans are not Italians and vice versa.

Beside this, I was offended by this phrase:



On 2003-05-12 22:42, Dimeris wrote:
France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.


Do I have to explain why? Or you are smart enough to understand that by yourself. Please, amaze me.

[Guntz348]

On 2003-05-13 09:07, neko-chan wrote:

Beside this, I was offended by this phrase:



On 2003-05-12 22:42, Dimeris wrote:
France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.


Do I have to explain why? Or you are smart enough to understand that by yourself. Please, amaze me.



Well perhaps he should rephrase it to Romans then. I can understand why it would upset you, but history is history and if they are the only country to lose two wars to Italy or Rome, then that's what happened.

If you said, 'in the early 1900's millions of armenians where slaughted by the Turks', I wouldn't get offended, because well frankly, thats the truth. It happened, it sucks and theres nothing I can do to change it.

[neko-chan]

On 2003-05-13 09:13, Guntz348 wrote:
Well perhaps he should rephrase it to Romans then. I can understand why it would upset you, but history is history and if they are the only country to lose two wars to Italy or Rome, then that's what happened.

It's like talking to walls, it bounces back.

He said: "France is so sucky, they lost again Italy not one time, but two times". In Dimeris' mind, losing a war is a problem, losing two wars is a double problem, but losing two wars against those Italian monkeys it's the worst thing that can happen, because in his little imagination, Italian people suck that much, that's even impossibile to lose against them.

Histroy is in history books. Stupid comments are in stupid people's mind.

[neko-chan]

On 2003-05-13 09:35, Kid_Icarus wrote:
Probably will sound stupid.

For your convenience, I restated your sentence in a proper way. Hope you don't mind. ^_^



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[Kid_Icarus]

On 2003-05-13 09:44, neko-chan wrote:


On 2003-05-13 09:35, Kid_Icarus wrote:
Probably will sound stupid.

For your convenience, I restated your sentence in a proper way. Hope you don't mind. ^_^



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For your convience I deleted my post. ^_^ I know you don't mind.

I ask for forgiveness for intruding in your topic. Damn me. Damn me all to hell.

[Guntz348]

On 2003-05-13 09:22, neko-chan wrote:


On 2003-05-13 09:13, Guntz348 wrote:
Well perhaps he should rephrase it to Romans then. I can understand why it would upset you, but history is history and if they are the only country to lose two wars to Italy or Rome, then that's what happened.

It's like talking to walls, it bounces back.

He said: "France is so sucky, they lost again Italy not one time, but two times". In Dimeris' mind, losing a war is a problem, losing two wars is a double problem, but losing two wars against those Italian monkeys it's the worst thing that can happen, because in his little imagination, Italian people suck that much, that's even impossibile to lose against them.

Histroy is in history books. Stupid comments are in stupid people's mind.



Actually he said,



- Italian Wars
- Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.


If thats true, it's true. How you can pick this to get offended over and not,



- War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War
- Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

- World War I
- Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline

- World War II
- Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

- Hundred Years War
- Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman." Sainted.


These I can see as being insulting to the French, because well it is. But just the simple "France lost twice to the Italians". No I can't see that.

[Nawms]

On 2003-05-12 22:46, Guile wrote:
That whole freedom fries shit was so stupid..it's not funny



Its not supposed to be funny.

Good job Dimeris *pats Dimeris on head*

[geewj]

On 2003-05-13 09:22, neko-chan wrote:

He said: "France is so sucky, they lost again Italy not one time, but two times". In Dimeris' mind, losing a war is a problem, losing two wars is a double problem, but losing two wars against those Italian monkeys it's the worst thing that can happen, because in his little imagination, Italian people suck that much, that's even impossibile to lose against them.



That's a lot of assumptions to pull out of one small fact.

[Morfos]

On 2003-05-12 08:33, Shapiro wrote:
Who is the childish moron that came up with Freedom Fries?

The Republicans.

[Ness]

On 2003-05-13 08:37, neko-chan wrote:
So, uhm...

Italy then was not known for it's military force (and it still is not). Also, France was supposed to be rivaling Britian in imperial power. So it's basically like the little guy kicking the rear of the big guy. For Italy it was a great victory, for France it was complete humiliation. He is not saying all Italians suck, he is saying that at the time Italy was a weak nation and losing against them was very unlikely.



If you really feel the urge to make fun of a certain country, please, use your own country as target.

Hope you get a warning for this.



I looks like he struck a nerve there Neko. He is right. All that stuff is true. Also you make fun of the US all the time so why should we have to follow your rules when you don't follow them?

[neko-chan]

On 2003-05-14 04:06, Ness wrote:
Also you make fun of the US

I never made fun of United States of America. I only make fun of bastard dumb kids from Texas. It's totally different.

[Ness]

On 2003-05-14 07:21, neko-chan wrote:


On 2003-05-14 04:06, Ness wrote:
Also you make fun of the US

I never made fun of United States of America. I only make fun of bastard dumb kids from Texas. It's totally different.



That is a lie and you know it. I remember all the things you said during the "War with Iraq" debates.

[neko-chan]

On 2003-05-14 10:39, Ness wrote:
That is a lie and you know it. I remember all the things you said during the "War with Iraq" debates.

OMG HE CALLED ME A LIARZ!!!1111

You don't even remember what was your last night's meal. Now, my little dumb cowboy, a little homework for you: go back tru posts and quote all the horrible things you think I wrote. At least, this will keep your ass busy for a while.

[Ness]

On 2003-05-14 11:25, neko-chan wrote:
OMG HE CALLED ME A LIARZ!!!1111

You don't even remember what was your last night's meal.


I had 5 slices of pepperoni pizza from CiCi's.



Now, my little dumb cowboy, a little homework for you: go back tru posts and quote all the horrible things you think I wrote. At least, this will keep your ass busy for a while.



Tha is exactly why I created the Archives.




Neko wrote:
Quote:
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On 2003-02-13 13:11, Davion wrote:
1: US declares war on Iraq.

2: US attacks certain outposts and bases.

3:US and UK covert forces get in an kill Saddam and the higher-ups in his military.

4: Mop up.


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Why not to summon Batman, Spider Man and the Fabulous Fours as well?

Now I'm going to post pr0n in this thread, at least it will be locked

I rest my case.

[Guntz348]

*points up* There's more then that too. That achiving saves a lotta trouble and time don't it?

[neko-chan]

On 2003-05-14 14:23, Ness wrote:
I rest my case.

Well, shithead, it's not my problem if you don't find Davion's post utterly childish and meaningless.

He turned the war into a comic's plot. Do I have to explain that I was making fun of him? Sure I do have, I'm talking to a little dumb cowboy after all.

Anyway thanks for trying.

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[Deathscythealpha]

I dont think Neko was actually mocking the USA there, he was taking the piss out of that plan.

I actually thought some of the stuff in that list was quite offensive to the French, and im sure theres a forum rule that says not to post any discriminating remarks about race, sex, religion or other things.

And the Fredom Fries thing is one of the stupidst things ive heard in ages. Thank god we just call them chips over here.

[neko-chan]

On 2003-05-14 14:59, Deathscythealpha wrote:
I dont think Neko was actually mocking the USA there, he was taking the piss out of that plan.

Amen.


I actually thought some of the stuff in that list was quite offensive to the French, and im sure theres a forum rule that says not to post any discriminating remarks about race, sex, religion or other things.

Amen.


And the Fredom Fries thing is one of the stupidst things ive heard in ages. Thank god we just call them chips over here.

Mmmhhh... chips... ^_^

[Nawms]

On 2003-05-14 14:23, Ness wrote:

I had 5 slices of pepperoni pizza from CiCi's.



Man. I'm a pathetic eater. I could only pack down two http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

But Coke is another story. 56 oz, NO PROB.
5 pieces. Whats your bmi?

[Elentari]

i think ive posted this same post like 20 times...
The term "freedom fries" only applied to the House cafeteria. If they wanna change the name of the fries let them, no big whoop. Fries arent even french in the first place.

They changed french toast also, but if you look back. It used to be german toast, the name was changed then too. It happens more then you may think. No one is forcing you to call your fries freedom fries, i dont see why its such a big deal if the House cafeteria does.

Its not like its a law that requires you to call your fries "freedom fries." Not everyone has the same words for something. Take soda for example, some call it "pop" others "soda"...ok i dont know if my reference made sense to anyone else... but it did to me http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

But, thats just how i see it...

[Reenee]

On 2003-05-14 19:58, Elentari wrote:
i think ive posted this same post like 20 times...
The term "freedom fries" only applied to the House cafeteria. If they wanna change the name of the fries let them, no big whoop. Fries arent even french in the first place.

They changed french toast also, but if you look back. It used to be german toast, the name was changed then too. It happens more then you may think. No one is forcing you to call your fries freedom fries, i dont see why its such a big deal if the House cafeteria does.

My beef is that they've done something extremely childish and so not patriotic. They're taunting a foreign government because they opposed a war.


Its not like its a law that requires you to call your fries "freedom fries." Not everyone has the same words for something. Take soda for example, some call it "pop" others "soda"...ok i dont know if my reference made sense to anyone else... but it did to me http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif


Well, yeah, that's fine with me. But I stated my point.

[Ness]

On 2003-05-14 14:46, neko-chan wrote:
Well, shithead, it's not my problem if you don't find Davion's post utterly childish and meaningless.


I would have to disagree. YOu were the one acting like a child in that thread. And the other big "war with Iraq" thread.


He turned the war into a comic's plot. Do I have to explain that I was making fun of him? Sure I do have, I'm talking to a little dumb cowboy after all.


No he was actually quite serious. You were the one that got comic book characters involved.



Anyway thanks for trying.


And thanks for trying one of you lame attempts to start a flamewar.



Whats your bmi?

I have no idea what that is.

[neko-chan]

On 2003-05-15 03:41, Ness wrote:
No he was actually quite serious.

You two watch too much TV.



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[Ness]

On 2003-05-15 04:32, neko-chan wrote:
You two watch too much TV.





You evade points too much.

[Balthor]

Shut up Ness.

[LollipopLolita]

What the hell is wrong with you two? How many warnings does it take before you try our patience?

Neko you're a grown man, you should know better, and know when to quit. You're being childish, resulting to petty bickering and stupid namecalling.

Ness you've been told before to quit and ignore it.

You two have gone beyond childishness. Why is it that in every thread you two participate in, it's always arguing and bickering with each other? Come on, seriously, do you think the other posters here want to put up with your nonsese?

I'm not asking you two to quit it now, I am telling you both to quit it now.

Neko you get +1 warning. You flame Ness needlessly again, and I will not hesistate to add your count.

Ness you're up to your last warning. If you want to stay, I suggest you stop this and ignore Neko.

Either you both grow up and learn some social skills or I suggest you both find something else better to do.