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Jagasha-Hiei
06-22-2003, 08:36 PM
answer 1 of the following for best hu wep
if u dont know wut they r use this info
orotiagito
ATP + 750-800
ATA + 55
Special = Slicer beam,X2 damage, cost 40 HP
Class = Katana
Required ATP: 850
Stars: 12
Tsumikiri J-Sword
ATP + 700-756
ATA + 40
Special =Pilla for 20 PB,3x if u have 100
Max Grinder = 50
Class = Sword
Required ATP: 910
Stars: 12
Black King Bar
ATP + 590-600
ATA + 43
Special =Devils
Max Grinder = 80
Class = Twin Saber
Required ATP: 800
Stars: 11
Double Cannon
ATP + 650
ATA + 45
Special =Shoots 4 weak beams in different directions, 40 HP cost
Class = Twin Saber
Required ATP: 900
Stars: 12
Sange & Yasha
ATP + 640-650
ATA + 50
Max Grinder = 30
Special = Gush
Class = Twin Sword
Required ATP: 800
Stars: 12
Rainbow Baton
ATP + 300-320
ATA + 40
Max Grinder = 24
Special = Chaos
Class = Slicer
Required ATP: 570
Stars: 12
God Hand
ATP + 705
ATA + 70
MST + 5
DFP + 5
EVP + 5
LCK + 5
Max Grinder = 30
Special = King
Class = Fist
Required ATP: 800
Stars: 10
Soul Banish
ATP + 350-370
ATA + 45
Max Grinder = 9
Special = Slowly Drains HP, Megid lvl 15, 40 HP cost
Class = Partisan
Required ATP: 850
Stars: 10
Bin Ladens ak47
general term for sranks, which can be given almost any special
take grinders into consideration









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Jagasha-Hiei
06-22-2003, 08:41 PM
Bin ladens ak47 is the name of an srank that probably dont exist

Jagasha-Hiei
06-22-2003, 08:43 PM
bump, where is every1

Brett
06-22-2003, 08:53 PM
bkb, it's the strongest double saber, thus hits 6 times, is almost as strong as the Orotiagito, and it's special ain't that bad....

Jagasha-Hiei
06-22-2003, 08:55 PM
i like orotiagto cuz of its special, its like shooting 10 beams for 40 tp, cuz u can just use resta

Jagasha-Hiei
06-22-2003, 08:56 PM
i like soul banishes special more but its really weak, the weapon that is

Jagasha-Hiei
06-22-2003, 08:57 PM
i like soul banishes special more but its really weak, the weapon that is, tsu special kinda sux cuz u need pb to use, orotiagitos is usable at ne time

Lord_of_Nightmares
06-22-2003, 09:13 PM
a red sword with % beats any of those weapons any day.

maybe the bks can get close but I rather a good red sword, or s-rank with zaluren

Jagasha-Hiei
06-22-2003, 09:17 PM
i was a hildetorr and lavis cannnon beats red sword downt to every last stat

Lord_of_Nightmares
06-22-2003, 09:50 PM
err, agains a single fo yes, but try that on the mines, and ruins.

stats donīt make a good weapon

Nai_Calus
06-23-2003, 01:44 AM
Is the items database horribly wrong, or am I just on crack? According to it the Double Cannon has more ATP and ATA than the BKB, which would make it a bit better. Does the BKB have some uber special or something? Or is the Double Cannon in actuality really better and nobody bothers to know it because it's too much of a PITA to make a legit Double Cannon to widely dupe?
And everyone with sense knows that the best weapon is a 50% or higher Hit Charge Vulcan, anyways. :-P Of course, style is a factor too. :-P Besides, if I wanted to use mechgun types I'd be a friggin' Ranger, not a Hunter. I like sharp pointy things and going hack-hack. ^_^ And if you know what you're doing you can safely melee anything, even large groups, with a saber-type...
And of course I'm still quite fond of my Orochi Agito... It ties into the style thing, Ian-Kun X looks a bit like a Samurai with the way his outfit is and his hairstyle. Doesn't hurt that it's a nice nasty weapon, too... ATP ain't everything, but it gets tiresome after a while when you barely damage anything with your crappy Gladius and Raygun. ^_-; Mmm. Orochi Agito/Lavis Cannon, Red Handgun and Demolition Comet. Decent equip. Now if only I could find better defensive gear than a 4-slot Perfect Frame and a Secret Gear. XP~
But yeah. Weapons are less important than skill. Having good ones helps, though. ^_^

VioletSkye
06-23-2003, 01:51 AM
The item database is correct DC has higher ATP and ATA than BKB, and there are a TON of duped DC's out there. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Although obviously they aren't as common place as the BKB with 20% hit LOL.

Jagasha-Hiei
06-23-2003, 08:34 AM
dbl cannon is weaker if bkb is grinded to the max and dc,s special is weak and low ranged

VioletSkye
06-23-2003, 11:50 AM
On 2003-06-23 06:34, Jagasha-Hiei wrote:
dbl cannon is weaker if bkb is grinded to the max and dc,s special is weak and low ranged

True but we're talking base stats (non grinded). You are right though fully grinded BKB has higher ATP, considering the fact you can't grind DC.

DarkShinjaru
06-23-2003, 12:31 PM
Rainbow Baton o_O

Rx-78_Gundam
06-23-2003, 12:48 PM
this is gonna sound real newbieish but whats a bkb?

VioletSkye
06-23-2003, 12:50 PM
BKB= Black King Bar. Its a double saber weapon.

http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=510



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Jagasha-Hiei
06-23-2003, 04:36 PM
wuts better rainbow baton or flight cutter, wuts rainbow batons special

DarkShinjaru
06-24-2003, 12:42 AM
Rainbow Baton's special confuses the enemy, really high chance, so i'm saying Chaos. I dont use the special because I have confuse traps anyways..Flight Cutter sucks compared to RB for me, my friend let me try his in multi mode and it was quite weaker.

Jagasha-Hiei
06-24-2003, 02:43 PM
i dont know bout this but y do people like charge vulcans so much, guld milla can do more damage in a weak attack than charge vulcans can with there special, plus it has low accuracy, not just cuz its a mech but cuz u use a special attack, its good for new chars but some weps are supperior in every possible way,


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Jagasha-Hiei
06-24-2003, 03:43 PM
hey ys no 1 voting for god hand and soul banish, and y do s&y and dc have such low votes

Jagasha-Hiei
06-24-2003, 04:46 PM
weak attacks do 70% of ur attack with a weapon equiped, strong attacks are 170%, special attacks are 50%, cept for orotiagito which is 190%, beserk, charge and spirit is 250%. elements depend on resistance, devils and demons is cutting HP, tsu is 170%, saber+2 sux, and techs are just techs on a weapon, they still depend on MST, BTW tsu special has the range of LVL 15 rafioe cept it dont do fire damage and it depends on ur atp not ur mst. DBL cannon is 50% in case ur wondering.

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MajinSephiroth
06-24-2003, 07:29 PM
The only weapon here that can compete with Tsu is bkb, and maybe rainbow baton. Depending on wether your fighting a group or a single enemy, the latter mostly being bosses. Rainbow Baton is only for when things are flying or far away. Unless you have horrible accuracy, Tsu is the weapon of choice in most situations. So there =P

Rhete
06-24-2003, 08:06 PM
Tsu jsword - worthless dupe
bkb - worthless dupe
s & y - worthless dupe
dbl cannon - worthless dupe
rainbow baton - worthless dupe

orotiagito - saber type eww
god hand - fist type
soul banish - partisan and sexy


Soul Banish = winner by several miles

Jagasha-Hiei
06-25-2003, 02:21 PM
tsu is the wep of choice for normal mode but its ata sux shit compared to every other wep i listed, and if somethings flying use a gun, slicers are meant to hit miltiple targets, not midair targets, if i was expecting to fight candines and such id use orotiagitos special, it can hit them all and do more damage than a slicer,im talking 3x more, tsu sux in battle cuz once u block the first 3 hits, which is ez cuz ata sux on tsu, just get behind and u win. Tsu is meant for power, it shud only be used by some1 with good ata, like 200 maybe, 1 miss and u get hit since its so slow, they bartle or wutevea ur fighting can hit u. soul banish is the best wepeon for battle,

and rete, y didnt u vote for it if the others are such worthless dupes

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Jagasha-Hiei
06-25-2003, 05:15 PM
yay another for orotiagito, i need lots of vote to prove to my friends that dbl can is not the best wep

PumpkinKing
06-25-2003, 06:41 PM
wtf? theres hardly no choices 2 choose from

Jagasha-Hiei
06-25-2003, 08:08 PM
wut were u expecting, those r the best hunter weapons

Jagasha-Hiei
06-26-2003, 11:25 AM
wow dbl cannon really does suk

Jagasha-Hiei
06-27-2003, 09:34 AM
i need more votes