Thieves Guild established! but...who are we? [Archive]

cbwing0

03-18-2001, 02:56 PM

Robin Hood? Ha! The whole point of a thieves guild should be steal for profit and pleasure, not because you think that you are the judge and jury of anyone who steals and isn't a member of your guild in PSO. This is pathetic.
Playing PSO, not stealing, pretending that you don't cheat, or doing shit like this all falls into the do-gooder category, which currently has monopolized the personality of most players. What you have to do is make a truly evil thieves' guild that steals with no regard for other players. If this is what you had in mind when you thought of a thieves' guild, you can contact me at cbwing0@hotmail.com and join a REAL thieves' guild (and not the merry men of ragol lol)

Ratsmack

03-18-2001, 10:02 PM

So...somehow...being just established...you managed to get a stolen item back from a thief...even though all chances would indicate that he would have either traded or banked that stolen item. Second, if theives know your names, then...umm...well...they won't let you steal from them. Either way, you're theives, no matter how happy and sparkly you are. Guild or no.

Takean

03-18-2001, 11:01 PM

I think what people hate most of all in this game are people that take things from them. Is there anyone else out there besides these few people that have had items stolen from them. I find it hard to believe that these people have. They are probably ones who do steal and dislike the whole idea behind people that get back at them. We are not talking about merry men...we are talking about players trying to bring more to the game of pso. We are people that can be hired...or whatever...its just a game. By the way...who ever is the person that claimed that people would avoid us if they new we are part of this guild is an idiot. Who in their right mind would make a guild...and then prance around displaying their names to the public...no one could ever steal that way. We have our ways...and it is purely your own opinion as to how we should work. Come on people...it is just a game...just one more way we all can help it live. And...for all you people that think it is a crazy idea...then so be it. For those of you who think it could have potential...I find your intellegence overwhelming the others! And by the way...who we choose to steal from...and how...is our own choice! If we choose to steal from YOU...and you are honest...who cares...your loss...not ours! We take...you loose....thats your problem...not ours. But...for others...we help as well...and we help who we want to as well!

Ratsmack

03-20-2001, 06:15 PM

Hee hee, Takean, you make this too easy. What kind of moron would make a theif guild and prance around saying the names of the members? Well, the same kind of moron who would make a theif guild in the first place. And, yes, let me put it in simple terms for you, Takean, I'm calling you a moron, which is entirely justified since you just called me one. Oh, and if you think theives are bringing something to the game of PSO, they've brung enough. There's certainly enough asswipes hiding in the corner until their teammate dies and rushing into the snatch the weapons. and money. Hee hee, and it's funny that you're calling me and everyone who's against you a thief. Oh, it must be true, afterall, the leader of the thing being criticized would NEVER be bias!! Yeah, sure. See, what you last said is a mixture of "We're the good guys" and "We're the bad guys" which doesn't quite work. If you're bringing something to the game...then why do you admit to giving your victims a sense of loss caused completely by you? You are not spicing up the game, you are wrecking it and making people not want to use their best weapons EVER and not want to make new friends. As for your last comment, that you find people who support you very smart...I literally cracked up after reading that. Hell, I'm still chuckling at it. Especially the way you said it, that their "intelligence is overwhelming the others." Hee hee. Clever. One last question...how many members do you have? And if it's anything over you and some other smartass who thinks they're a revolutionary, I'd really like some proof. Thank you for your time.

Takean

03-20-2001, 08:55 PM

Ok Rat...this is the deal. I am sure you would agree with me that this game: PSO...is a game...and just a game. Why do people make clans? Who knows...I myself don't like to be a part of clans...things can always get out of hand. But, this is just a game...and the idea was given to me from friends...I decided to try it out. I don't think people with opinions are morons...But...I do think when people begin to make a life in this game...or take this game WAY TOO SERIOUSLY...it is time to stop and examine one's self. This clan is just a clan...nothing more. Its something to help others...maybe not like the red cross...but it does help people...and can help out our members too. Who cares if others think its a crappy clan...that is thier opinion...like yours...and I respect that...but when people begin to think PSO is alive and they live there 24/7...that is disturbing...not that I am saying you act this way. But listen...if you wish too....this clan can bring good things to PSO...and yes...I love to bring my cool weapons out too...but...I don't bring out my cool weapons that I steal from people wrongfully...that is being a jerk. I don't enjoy the idea of knowing people can take my stuff...and me not have any option as to ever getting it back. Lets just say this for the sake of arguements...be reasonable when reading this part and you deside...lets just say you just found a brand new weapon...and you haven't heard any about it anywhere...and its totally cool. Everyone that sees it marvels at your cool new weapon. Lets just say that you are using it...and bam...a delsaber just kills you. And a guy runs up and takes it...I think...you would be pissed of pretty badly. Now...if you knew someone or a group of people that could get it back...you can't tell me that you would just say...oh well...I guess I'll never get that weapon back. I think...you would do everything you could to get it back.! That is part of what we do...we try to help out people. If you object to that...then you aren't capable of reason and I will no longer post messages to you again...because it would be a waste of my time. And by the way...there is no way for you to veiw members names...because it can't be accessed except by members. Think next time before you say something again...maybe next time you won't look foolish. As always...I enjoy our debates that we share Rat...plz post more...maybe soon...I will have the opportunity to hunt you down...if you steal of course...j/k...maybe. Anyway...plz reply fast...I can't wait to see what is next that I must explain to you in lamens terms! lol

Ratsmack

03-20-2001, 11:07 PM

*ahem* The word is "laymen's". And as for losing my extra special weapon...I'd say rats and move right on. I've done it. Lost my Justy+9, and cursed off the thief, then said "Oh, well." By being theives...you are theives. I don't care WHO you steal from, you're theives. Plain and simple, with emphasis on simple, as that seems to be the accurate way to communicate with you.

Takean

03-20-2001, 11:42 PM

Well...call us what you may. And you may think that you are perfect in spelling...but as for the rest of the world...mistakes happen when typing. As our conversations have continued...I have gathered that You my easily angered rival are not an adult yet. All adults have a trend...and that is that they can have a conversation without calling people childish names as well as having a good understanding that there is a life outside this game. By the way...your view of us is your view...I cannot change it. But, I would ask you to take a look at your wording. If you feel so strongly about that view...and that you did say..."oh well"...then I guess when stuff happens in the real world...not that you are old enough nor mature enough to understand these things yet...but crap will happen to you too in life...and I find it hard to believe that when it does...you will not just say: "Oh well". For an example...some one hit your car...you probably wouldn't just say..."oh Well"...but...with your age...or maybe your lack of wanting to be mature...you will probably come back to me and call me names as well as accuse me of your damaged car. The point remains...even though you will not admit it...is this: PSO is just a game...If you don't like the idea of others having different points of views other than yours...then I have one thing to say...get used to it...life is full of that stuff. As always Rat...your a thorn in my side...not really. Thankyou for posting your latest post...not that it had anything important about it except your whining...but thatnyou anyway.

Ratsmack

03-21-2001, 05:28 PM

I really get a kick out of you, Takean. I mean, maybe that's why I even bother to respond, so I can see what stupidity and weakly-masked insults you have to say! Man, the lucky people that know you in real life must laugh their asses off at you all the time, because that's what I did all through your post. Thank YOU. Okay, back on track here, you call me your rival? You think I would waste my time being YOUR rival? I'd waste my time responding just to see what you'd say, but rival I am not. And, you're correct, I'm not an adult, and I make absolutely no secret of it, and why should I? I can type more coherantly and write more convincingly than a bunch of adults. Hell, I'm better than you at it. Punctuation, capitalization, you know, third grade things. Now, I don't like to bash other people's writing and act all high and mighty, because it's wrong, and I don't like to be vain. I was just getting back at you for inferring that since I'm younger, I'm automatically stupider. That goes for your little car example. Let me use your own words against you, shall I? PSO is a game. You're right. It CANNOT be compared to a car crash. Period. If someone scratched my car, I'd be angry at the person. If someone stole a weapon from me in a frickin' game, I'd be angry, but not so angry as if someone stole something from me in real life. A GAME, buddy, A GAME. And if your theory was right, wouldn't I be blaming you all over the place for things that happened me today? That's IF your theory (or any other for that matter) was right. Now, let me use your words against you once again, shall I? You say I can't handle people having a different view? Obviously, neither can you, since you're matching me in length and personal bashings, though you try to make it look like you're neutral. You called me immature, stupid, full of myself and a whiner in your last post. You...FILLED it with personal bashings. What the hell? This is not an insult war, I started by bashing your concept of a theif guild. DEFEND it. DON'T insult me. Thank you for your time.

Snapshot

03-24-2001, 10:27 AM

THIEVES GUILD CLAN!!! Thats fuckin rediculous. Whats the point of stealing...dont got the skills to look or trade for rares. Dam, u dont need to know calculus in order to trade or look for items.

Snapshot

03-24-2001, 10:31 AM

THIEVES GUILD CLAN!!! Thats fuckin rediculous. Whats the point of stealing...dont got the skills to look or trade for rares. Dam, u dont need to know calculus in order to trade or look for items.

Snapshot

03-24-2001, 10:35 AM

THIEVES GUILD CLAN!!! Thats fuckin rediculous. Whats the point of stealing...dont got the skills to look or trade for rares. Dam, u dont need to know calculus in order to trade or look for rare items. My main point is............FUCK ALL THIEVES!!!

Roaddogglosthispassword

03-24-2001, 04:12 PM

Perhaps he should do what i do
I steal from the theives but return the item to the person it was stolen from
Makes the theif know he got what he deserved and the other person feel better
but as for a guild lmfao.
I work alone it's much more fun for me to hunt on my own
And I don't care what everyone says they can post or not Me taking down theives and returning the item makes me feel much better
as for the robin hood thing thats hilarious
Robin hood was a theif himself he stole from the rich
I steal from the theives and return the item back to the owner nothing more nothing less

peace

Snapshot

03-24-2001, 04:40 PM

yeah, I down with that. I really do hate thieves. There was this one time an asshole was trading with me, then upon trading he jacked my Lavis Canon and left. But he made the biggest mistake in Theft....he gave me his guild card. So me and a friend (Kalel) joined his game. Me and Kalel communicated thru mail. He was gonna get the thiefs trust and jack him back. I got my cannon back and up to this day I still bother that asshole thru mail...

Yes, I admit that I did steal but I just wanted to make that thief know who he was messing with. Im trying my best to learn PK so that I can really hunt down thieves. Cant there be a clan of thief killers that know how to PK?

Roaddogglosthispassword

03-25-2001, 05:17 AM

Actually there is
But killing alone is more fun
you get pissed off if u can't find the culprit and when u do ur happy lol
I took one guy to the forest and a rag rappy was attacking him then i killed him
it was so funny well that kid got his spread needle back

Takean

03-25-2001, 01:23 PM

well...we have yet to know the PK trick...at least...the new one...we do know the old one...but it is very risky. Ant any rate. We have our ways...and I myself have just hit number 14. He didn't even know who I was...nor how he was tricked into dropping all his goods! Thief #14...now is a loser! How did I do it...its so easy...but I won't tell you...unless your one of us. Peace out ppl!

Ratsmack

03-25-2001, 03:13 PM

Oh, I see...some how you managed to get a guy to drop all his valuables without him knowing it. Gee. Bullshit? I think so.

zanza

03-26-2001, 01:33 AM

I HATE THIEVES. THIEVES CAN GO TO HELL.
BUT I SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT HELPS THE PSO COMMUNITY.
IT INVOLVES STEALING? FINE. AS LONG AS THE BADGUY GETS A BIG'OL "BITCH-SLAP"
FROM THE GODS.
I'M DOWN WITH THE IDEA.
AND I'VE GOT A LIST OF THIEVES TOO.
THE NAME SHOULD BE DIFFERENT THOUGH.
WHAT ABOUT "BOUNTY HUNTERS" GUILD OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
PK'ING SUX WHEN USED WRONGLY,
BUT FOR THOSE WHO USE IT TO HELP THE LITTLE GUY ARE IN MY
"GOOD SAMARITAN" LIST.
I DO ALL I CAN TO HELP OUT VICTIMS OF THIEVERY. BUT I'M LIMITED.
SO IF YOUR GUILD IS TRULY LEGIT,
SEND ME AN E-MAIL. I'M ALL FOR IT.
PEACE.

zanza

03-26-2001, 01:49 AM

zan_shonin@hotmail.com

hehe...FORGOT TO POST THIS......

Roaddogglosthispassword

03-26-2001, 04:07 AM

I agree with you ratsmack......when I encounter a theif I usually pose as a duper or theif myself to get them to drop what was stolen then i kill them,,,,,take the item return it to the original owner simple as that
some happen to get away but thats the thrill of the hunt

Roaddogglosthispassword

03-26-2001, 04:07 AM

VioletJumi

03-26-2001, 05:08 AM

If you don't fall like the others who have tried to compete with C&M Underground you will cut all leads to this clan and play casual,we are a multitheme 'guild' we are a total of 5 clans that merged,we span across 3 ships,one in each group-Japan IO,US Titania,EU Titan,We retrieve stolen goods,we steal from the jerks that plague our ships,We help train new players,we contribute to tournaments,we've helped host 3 tournaments,unfortunately not many showed for them.We need a mastermind who can sort these matters,As you've already clarified,we can never be sure the jobs will be legitimate,but we have to do something for our money.We may host another tournament if anybody is interested in helping us organize it,we will offer our best to the victors.We also need somebody who is talented with Javascript and HTML,A clan as large as ours needs a website.Maybe we'll put our cents together and buy Google from yahoo to raise funds for a new Game Comunity,We are deadset on keeping Sega in the console comunity,even if we have to contribute our weekly paychecks and live in boxes to do so!

VioletJumi

03-26-2001, 05:25 AM

Ratsmack: "HEE HEE,HEE HEE,HEE HEE"..What the fuck's up with you?
Somebody should beat you for being so fucking IGNORANT,You're trying to make an honest man sound like an asshole just because he wants to contribute to his gaming comunity,You're probably some dopey little kid who spends most of his time in front of his monitor spanking his 'sausage' to AnimalWorld.com,Who the FUCK gave you the right to pass judgement,god i want to slap your sorry ass so damn bad...Just the thought of some little punk telling a decent man off makes me want to hunt them like a dog,beat them til they rgurgitate their food and make them eat it again.You demented bastard,I take back what I said earlier,in fact,i'd be willing to merge with your guild.
Don't mind any of these fools,they don't know the meaning of moral vallues.Stick with me and you'll be part of something big.Fuck all the bullshit!

cbwing0

03-26-2001, 11:39 AM

Ok, I finally got a chance to read the replies on this forum, and I have time to put in my 2 cents. I am the rival Thieves' Guild to Takean's, and although I think we came first, that isn't the reason for the rivalry. My guild is a "pure" thieves' guild, because we steal for fun a profit, and make no attempt to help other players or return stolen items. Unfortunately, we have had some of the more childish members post rude messages throughout this site, which I think may have given some people the wrong impression about our guild. If any of you want to start hunting thieves, then my guild will be happy to start pk-ing anyone that we suspect to be a member of your group. I don't like this, but if you are going to start cheating to kill us, then we have no choice but to exterminate you. If only Takean was a little more evil, we could merge to guilds and have a little more power to oppose all of the do-gooders that pollute the game. If you want to join my guild, then contact me at cbwing0@hotmail.com

zanza

03-31-2001, 07:01 AM

"sigh"......PSO IS NOW HOME TO SCUM.....
I THINK I'LL ACTUALLY SLEEP, NOW THAT
EVERYTHING IS SO DAMN CORRUPTED.
"sigh".....

Omege12

03-31-2001, 10:24 AM

Hey cbwing, sence you and taeken's clans are rivals, why don't you leave other people, who have done nothing to any of you at all, alone, and steal back and forth between the two guilds. Call it "War of Loosers I". Yeah, go do that, but leave the rest of the people alone.

Takean

04-01-2001, 02:15 PM

I am sorry...but that last post...has to be the most ignorant post I have seen yet! Even Ratsmack's posts are at least understandable and most of his make sence too...even though he hates us...but yours buddy...I'm sorry...but that is the worst post I have ever seen. U rank up there with the worst game too: Superman 64...LOL. That was the sorriest game ever...and u post the sorriest posts I have ever seen...so here is some advice: Be quiet next time...maybe then you will at least look a bit intellegent! LOL

Omege12

04-01-2001, 04:17 PM

No.."buddy", the most ignorant posts here are yours and all the other cheater/thieves/dupes/losers who have posted here. it is not a stupid suggestion because every non theif out there would agree to it. you losers waste your life stealing from other people and enjoying it. mabey if you stole from your own kind it you might start thinking about your actions for once. and, i hope you arent dull enough to see, that that post was meant to joke around. really though, i would like to steal everything you have you selfish d ick. and would that make me a bad person? of course you'll say yes. but the bad people are you. all of you lamers need to stop acting so childish.
here's a warning though...pay backs are a bitch. you and your "buddies" better watch your backs of you plan on stealing from me or any of my friends.

Tolwyn

04-01-2001, 04:51 PM

Dumb clan idea... Period...

Milika

04-01-2001, 11:39 PM

I think that SEGA is the moron here. If they didn't want thieves then why did they make ur items drop. Heh FRIG them! ANYWAY what would a game be without good vs. EVIL(wich by the way rox)

Takean

04-02-2001, 07:25 PM

Ok....it seems our little friend Omega...doesn't understand that we HUNT DOWN THIEVES...you know...those guys that steal from people that are honest and play the game and BAM...some dude steals from them...or rips them off! How on earth can u say that we are bad...heck...if someone steals your car...who do you go to...the police you moron. We are just hired people that can get your stolen stuff back...or can be hired just to get back at other thieves that have stolen from you. The point is this: WE ARE A THIEF HUNTERS GUILD...mainly called Thieves Guild for short...but...we hunt down thieves...and steal back what was stolen. Now Omega...if you say that is stupid...then you are full of it. No idiot in the world would say that its lame to help out people...Unless...they are thieves themselves! LIKE I SAID OMEGA....THINK NEXT TIME BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING!!! And by the way...fix up your typos...so that what you say doesn't look like an idiot typed it. Sure...I make mistakes too!

[addsig]

[ This message was edited by: Takean on 2001-04-02 17:40 ]

Milika

04-03-2001, 05:09 PM

OK first to knock this quote from you takean.

"No idiot in the world would say that its lame to help out people...Unless...they are thieves themselves!"

Uhm I say it's a stupid idea wether or not you say im an idiot. I feel your prob some nerd who thinks he lives his character in PSO which so many ppl have a prob with. So what ppl steal from ur video game char! oh no the end of the world. I think of it this way, SEGA MADE IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE ITEMS OF THE DEAD OR ECT. AND THAT IT IS THIER FAULT. So there is no need to be a SACKLESS(AS IN NO BALLZ) PANZEE. Just live with it, either steal or be stolen from, is it gonna effect ur life, not in the least bit. GOOD HAVE SOME FUN....and PS STOP WACKING OFF TO THE FEMALE CHARS. THEY ARE FAKE!

Takean

04-03-2001, 07:27 PM

Ok...I have nothing against this last person's post except one thing: Odds are...I am older than he is...and, I hold down 2 jobs as well as working on wedding plans as well. So...I do have a life...and its not spent "living" it on this imaginary game. And, Sega made the game in such a way on purpose so that people have the option to steal. Now, all I am saying is this...if you feel as if I am wasting my time with helping people out online...thats your opinion...but, the fact remains...I have a life...maybe you do too...but, you haven't matured enough yet to hold even a simple conversation with someone without putting them down. Guess what...life is full of people that have opinions...and no one's opinion is more important than another's. So...the next time you want to say something like that last post...make sure you are at least mature enough to take in the other's opinions into consideration. And, again...as far as me having a life...I probably do more in the real world...than you ever do. Odds are...you haven't even finished high school and your still suckin mama's nip! So...grow up!

NewTsumetai

04-04-2001, 09:12 AM

dam....u people say the same exact shit every single day..."my guilds better than yers"...."no its not...u stupid robin hood"...dam...u people need to get a fuckin life is what u need...thieves guilds...i remember when someone said that 2 thieves guilds fighting are like crap bashing crap....i agree with that 100%...go get a life u losers....

Takean

04-04-2001, 07:32 PM

Nothing burns me up more than idiots posting their crap on this website....like this moron that just posted one! Let me ask u this u idiot: SINCE WHEN DID I SAY THAT "OUR" CLAN IS BETTER THAN THE OTHERS? U moron...all I said...and I repeat:

Listen up people! We have just strated our new clan...but its not what you think. Yes...we steal...but not from honest people...check out or website for more info: http://thieves-guild.ontheInter.net

That my friend is ALL I said...and then morons like u and ratsmack come and say that I suck. Fine, thats your opinion...BUT, I never said anything about "MY" clan being better than anyone elses. Nor...do I "LIVE" in this game. So, the next time you idiots post something...get your head out your butt and post something smart! I don't care if people say stuff like my clan sux...but it really looks dumb on your parts when you say something like..."man, u all need to stop crying about thieves" ...or... "dude...stop all this clan crap and stop saying your better than the other clans". Because frankly...you look like an idiot when you post a message like that, when, any educated person can read all the posts and find that there wasn't one comment I have made as to that my clan is better than theirs. So, next time get the facts straight you moron! Now, as for me saying that we have competition....COME ON...DIDN'T SOMEWHERE IN THAT THICK HEAD OF YOURS DID YOU EVER THINK THAT I WAS BEING JUST SILLY....I MEAN....THIS IS JUST A GAME FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! You know what...here is the deal: If you hate my clan...so be it...I can understand and appreciate your opinion...and if you like the idea of the clan...so be it too. BUT, if all you want to do is piss all over yourself and piss people off...then go and find someone else to screw with because you are making yourselves look stupid with some of these posts! Go find some dog...and kick him...go piss him off! Beats doing it to others online...and the only one that will see you look like an idiot is the dog after he mangles your tail! So, just remember boys and girls...post something that is legit, and something other than what a 10 yearold would post!

FroMaster

04-05-2001, 02:21 AM

i dont see why everyone is fighting about guilds. if your in one, your in one. no need to think whos guild is better. the reason people go into guilds is to make the game more interresting. soo all those people that get mad at guilds can just suck a di**.

You live by the sword and You die by the sword.

[ This message was edited by: FroMaster on 2001-04-05 00:22 ]

NewTsumetai

04-05-2001, 04:56 PM

dam...its so easy to piss u people off...its just my game to freak out u undereducated fools...if u dont mind if people writin shit bout yer guilds...then why do u write such long ass columns that say that u dont care about people raggin on yer guild and yet u have such anger in yer words...now i never said that u..takean..have said that your guild is better than other peoples...i was pokin a stick at that ass hole cb wing over there that said u r a robin hood clan..now that u have no right to call me uneducated...maybe u should look at the whole picture next time before spendin 30 minutes writin a fuckin column....and on another note...u say that your life is not in PSO, but its prbly writing these fuckin columns...pretty much the only reason i come to this site...is to piss people like takean..or cb wing off....so dont EVER call me uneducated again...because that i am not...but i must admit...u my friend are very fun to fuk around with....

NewTsumetai

04-05-2001, 05:07 PM

I know what yer gonna say about that column up above so please save my time by not puttin a 75 line response...make it short and sweet...id appreciate it much....i just wanted to put my point across that your life IS in PSO...i mean dam...a fuckin WEBSITE???...get a life...and please tell me..which of these is your life...the game...the columns...or the guild????...o and on another note...i woulda never guessed that u were a hick....until i read your responses...lol...and looked at the big VA....

NewTsumetai

04-05-2001, 05:15 PM

ooops my bad...felt kinda like u for a sec...hik...hik...oops got the hickups...sry bout that...i forgot that cbwing is from VA...thats right...yer from Alabama...hik...sry...well...ill talk to u later...hik...

GIANTATX1

04-06-2001, 07:20 AM

I had only just started playing PSO, I think I was lvl ten or something and some git nicked my crappy old plasma gun.
Anyway all theives should burn in hell for their sins.

[addsig]

[ This message was edited by: GIANTATX1 on 2001-04-06 05:22 ]

Milika

04-07-2001, 03:27 PM

hey Takean, for some one who is gettin married and all this crap about you having a life outside of pso you seem to get awfully offended when ppl dis you guild and you imaginary character. oh and by the way i love sucking my mom's nip as i do ur "future wife" and mom's cock. Have a nice day Homo http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_wink.gif

Check out the Merry Men of Ragol Home Page at http://come.to/mmorguild it's my thiefs guild site and i will not get soooo offended if you do not like it, oh what will i ever do ppl don't like my video game character!!! I'm going to die. the truth is while i play pso i might as well have fun doing so. I don't really care what others say, my thieves guild is a guild of thieves that's it just thieves! i've found something out in my pso playing time and it's steal or be stolen from. Or in takeans case, Steal and hide behind the rest of his Homo clan members and be even more pathetic.