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polishedweasel
Nov 19, 2003, 05:43 PM
I sent an email to ST. Hopefully they'll listen to me, I'm tired of seeing "N iggers are Stupid F ucking Monkeys" Plastered all over the lobbies. I'm trying to get the NK boys banned....if there's anyone else that you can think of that needs to be kicked from PSO GC email ST [email protected], and let them know.

I know this is a long shot, but it's worth a try. I figure if you flood their mail box we can get rid of the symbol spam and other irritations. Thanks for cooperating.

Giezus
Nov 19, 2003, 09:02 PM
I tried some letters...

-One on the duping and hacked items
-One like yours, asking to stop the "racist-racist like" stuff said
-Three on getting rid of the $9/A month payment
-One on more content

So far I havnt gotten any response to any letter. Good luck though.



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Mystil
Nov 19, 2003, 09:29 PM
It'd be nice to not see them do that anymore as well. But not seeing no more of Bruce Lee is good enough for me. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Robo47
Nov 19, 2003, 09:35 PM
For once we have similar opinions Mr.Weasel, for I too am tired of "Little Nigga bich wit da fake ass uber rares".

Kasumi19
Nov 19, 2003, 09:55 PM
I am on Xbox and although I have never actually witnessed any racist commentary or racist names. I completely understand wanting to ban people for doing it, however it may be a difficult feat to accomplish on Sega's part. Unfortunately the people committing these acts are allowed to express themselves per their first amendment rights. I am not saying they are smart, moral, intelligent, or even human. They simply have the right. The only way you might be able to get them on is if they are actually harassing someone. This may be why Sega has neglected to respond to this issue.

I have no issues with duping/hacking issues unless they are using it maliciously to mess with people's accounts and to steal information. That would be illegal and should be prosecuted by law as well as banned.

As I see it, I make the choice as to who I will play with and who I won't.

Suppa_Buddha
Nov 19, 2003, 10:26 PM
Yeah those NK kids are asses. I just stay away.

polishedweasel
Nov 19, 2003, 10:42 PM
On 2003-11-19 18:55, Kasumi19 wrote:
I am on Xbox and although I have never actually witnessed any racist commentary or racist names. I completely understand wanting to ban people for doing it, however it may be a difficult feat to accomplish on Sega's part. Unfortunately the people committing these acts are allowed to express themselves per their first amendment rights. I am not saying they are smart, moral, intelligent, or even human. They simply have the right. The only way you might be able to get them on is if they are actually harassing someone. This may be why Sega has neglected to respond to this issue.

I have no issues with duping/hacking issues unless they are using it maliciously to mess with people's accounts and to steal information. That would be illegal and should be prosecuted by law as well as banned.

As I see it, I make the choice as to who I will play with and who I won't.





There is no Constitution in PSO. So legally you can't do that, and they can ban you for whatever they see fit. It's purely against the rules to use this kind of language. Not saying that I don't break the rules, but I don't do anything to cause so many people this much trouble. Ya know?

shifter
Nov 20, 2003, 12:23 AM
hey, good luck to u weasel, u got my full support. i use to(well still do but not as much)get offened by the nig. remake(since im black) just getting spammed there every time i got to ant. 8, if u dont know, the guy that just sits right above the desk.

now i just wish there was a way to be able to kick those stupid bastards(sorry the best i could come up with on short notice, give me time and ill come up with somethin cleaver) off the sevres completely. but hey, ill just settle for those lame ass comments to be banned.

Eum
Nov 20, 2003, 01:43 AM
Why did this topic make me laugh?

I can see you people now:

"omg FU NK111 :( you r stupid!!!1!11 dumb racists omg wtf!!!!!!!"

DictionaryCOM (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ignore) says: To refuse to pay attention to; disregard.

Go go Gadget.

Kasumi19
Nov 20, 2003, 01:59 AM
There is no Constitution in PSO. So legally you can't do that, and they can ban you for whatever they see fit. It's purely against the rules to use this kind of language. Not saying that I don't break the rules, but I don't do anything to cause so many people this much trouble. Ya know?


I would like to see the racist creeps kicked off PSO because anyone that preaches that crap should be tied to a stake and left to die in the middle of the desert or worse.

I just think that Sega may have legal complications arise in doing so. There may not be an actual "constitution" in PSO, however there is a terms of service agreement that does state what is inappropriate conduct and both sides have to obide by it.

http://www.sega.com/community/profiles/pso_gcn/pc_front/gcn_pc_terms.jhtml

This only thing I could find in the agreement which may allow Sega to ban these people is the following.

(1) post, transmit, or cause to be posted or transmitted, any inappropriate Content, which includes Content that (i) violates any third party's intellectual property or other rights, (ii) is unlawful, threatening, harassing, libelous, privacy invading, vulgar, harmful, pornographic, indecent, obscene, hateful, or otherwise objectionable, or (iii) contains software viruses;

All the items listed there are very subjective and what one person considers offensive may not be considered offensive to someone else. It is really a judgment call that Sega may not be willing to make.

I am simply pointing out some legal aspects that may prevent Sega from remedying the situation.

anwserman
Nov 20, 2003, 02:22 AM
Weasel, hook up your GC to your VCR, and when you're playing record the lobbies that you are in. Compile a tape with this stuff on it, make a copy of it for yourself and send in one tape to ST. And be sure to write down what day it was, if you show the beat time and which server/lobby you are on I'm sure they have logs somewhere.

And if they do nothing then ST can go to hell.... or something.

Ketchup345
Nov 20, 2003, 06:49 AM
I'm not online yet, but I think I see a few points Sega could use:


On 2003-11-19 22:59, Kasumi19 wrote:
http://www.sega.com/community/profiles/pso_gcn/pc_front/gcn_pc_terms.jhtml

This only thing I could find in the agreement which may allow Sega to ban these people is the following.

(1) post, transmit, or cause to be posted or transmitted, any inappropriate Content, which includes Content that (i) violates any third party's intellectual property or other rights, (ii) is unlawful, threatening, harassing, libelous, privacy invading, vulgar, harmful, pornographic, indecent, obscene, hateful, or otherwise objectionable, or (iii) contains software viruses;

All the items listed there are very subjective and what one person considers offensive may not be considered offensive to someone else. It is really a judgment call that Sega may not be willing to make.


Those should cover it, as it probably would go as what is (insert underlined stuff here) to one person or group.

Superguppie
Nov 20, 2003, 07:47 AM
On 2003-11-19 23:22, anwserman wrote:
Weasel, hook up your GC to your VCR, and when you're playing record the lobbies that you are in. Compile a tape with this stuff on it, make a copy of it for yourself and send in one tape to ST. And be sure to write down what day it was, if you show the beat time and which server/lobby you are on I'm sure they have logs somewhere.

And if they do nothing then ST can go to hell.... or something.


If they have those logs, just sending them a dated transcript should be enough to search for it. So they either don't have the logs, or don't have te ppl to do the search...

Kasumi19
Nov 20, 2003, 10:40 AM
There is no Constitution in PSO. So legally you can't do that, and they can ban you for whatever they see fit. It's purely against the rules to use this kind of language. Not saying that I don't break the rules, but I don't do anything to cause so many people this much trouble. Ya know?


I would like to see the racist creeps kicked off PSO because anyone that preaches that crap should be tied to a stake and left to die in the middle of the desert or worse.

I just think that Sega may have legal complications arise in doing so. There may not be an actual "constitution" in PSO, however there is a terms of service agreement that does state what is inappropriate conduct and both sides have to obide by it.

http://www.sega.com/community/profiles/pso_gcn/pc_front/gcn_pc_terms.jhtml

This only thing I could find in the agreement which may allow Sega to ban these people is the following.

(1) post, transmit, or cause to be posted or transmitted, any inappropriate Content, which includes Content that (i) violates any third party's intellectual property or other rights, (ii) is unlawful, threatening, harassing, libelous, privacy invading, vulgar, harmful, pornographic, indecent, obscene, hateful, or otherwise objectionable, or (iii) contains software viruses;

All the items listed there are very subjective and what one person considers offensive may not be considered offensive to someone else. It is really a judgment call that Sega may not be willing to make.

I am simply pointing out some legal aspects that may prevent Sega from remedying the situation.

_Sinue_
Nov 20, 2003, 02:11 PM
Kasumi19 - What you fail to realize is that PSO takes place on private servers. Sega owns them. You're allowed only what freedoms and rights on their servers that they decide to give you. If you don't like their rules and enforcement - you have the freedom to choose another game. The same could be said for these message forums.

Those servers are also located in Japan - and they do not recognize our Constitutuion simply because there are US players on the servers as well.

Kasumi19
Nov 20, 2003, 03:15 PM
On 2003-11-20 11:11, _Sinue_ wrote:
Kasumi19 - What you fail to realize is that PSO takes place on private servers. Sega owns them. You're allowed only what freedoms and rights on their servers that they decide to give you. If you don't like their rules and enforcement - you have the freedom to choose another game. The same could be said for these message forums.

Those servers are also located in Japan - and they do not recognize our Constitutuion simply because there are US players on the servers as well.



I did not fail to realize anything and you may want to do a little research on MNCs.

A company that does business in another country is subject to the laws in the country in which they are doing business. I understand that the PSO server is a private server in Japan. I never disputed that fact, however Sega is a multi-national corporation(MNC).

So Sega would be subject to U.S. laws and regulations including the U.S. Constitution when conducting business in the U.S. In the same respect U.S. companies would be subject to U.S. to Japanese law when conducting business in Japan.

I am also not sure where you are gathering that I said anything about not liking PSO or the rules. I never said that at all. I was only pointing out that banning racists may be something that Sega just does not want to deal with and that there could be legal issues in banning those people from the PSO servers. I am not in favor of the racists by any means, but unless they are directly harassing someone. Sega may not want to take action on it and risk losing the income that they provide.

I am fully aware of the Terms of Service agreement, however it's language is very subjective. Here is food for thought. The word "bitch" can be considered a female dog or a deragatory insult towards a woman. It is all a matter of perspective and what context the word is used in. I have also heard African Americans refer to each other as Niggas as a word of endearment and used in that context the word may not be considered offensive.

I am aware that I have the freedom to choose to play what I want when I want.


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anwserman
Nov 20, 2003, 03:36 PM
On 2003-11-20 04:47, Superguppie wrote:


On 2003-11-19 23:22, anwserman wrote:
Weasel, hook up your GC to your VCR, and when you're playing record the lobbies that you are in. Compile a tape with this stuff on it, make a copy of it for yourself and send in one tape to ST. And be sure to write down what day it was, if you show the beat time and which server/lobby you are on I'm sure they have logs somewhere.

And if they do nothing then ST can go to hell.... or something.


If they have those logs, just sending them a dated transcript should be enough to search for it. So they either don't have the logs, or don't have te ppl to do the search...



Yes, that is true, but there is something about actually seeing footage of it happening, versus being told that it is happening. Sorry for the bad example, but 9/11 is what I'm going to use - I heard what happened on the news, but the shock of it didn't strike me until I saw actual footage of the towers falling.

polishedweasel
Nov 20, 2003, 03:59 PM
OK...I'm just gonna quote it




Sega Terms or conduct:

(b) Conduct

You agree to abide by the following standards set forth in this Agreement, the EULA, and the Rules of Conduct. Without limiting the foregoing, You agree that You will not use the Sega.com website(s), Phantasy Star Online, the Official PSO Website, or the PSO Server to:

(1) post, transmit, or cause to be posted or transmitted, any inappropriate Content, which includes Content that (i) violates any third party's intellectual property or other rights, (ii) is unlawful, threatening, harassing, libelous, privacy invading, vulgar, harmful, pornographic, indecent, obscene, hateful, or otherwise objectionable, or (iii) contains software viruses;

(2) send or cause to be sent unsolicited bulk e-mail or junk e-mail (including, "spam," "chain letters" or "pyramid schemes") to other Phantasy Star Online subscribers, or to harvest or collect information about Phantasy Star Online subscribers for the purpose of sending such unsolicited bulk e-mail;

(3) impersonate or misrepresent Your affiliation with any other party or attempt to access or use (or assist others in accessing or using) any Serial Number, Access Key, Account, Username, or any other personal information of another Phantasy Star Online subscriber;

(4) interfere with or disrupt any part of Phantasy Star Online or any servers or networks used with Phantasy Star Online, including without limitation the PSO Server, or disobey any requirements, procedures or policies of any networks used with Phantasy Star Online;

(5) engage in any "High Risk Activities," which includes any use of the Sega.com website(s), Phantasy Star Online, the Official PSO Website, or the PSO Server to design or develop, alone or in conjunction with any other product or service, any product or method to be used in the operation of nuclear facilities, aircraft navigation or communications systems, air traffic control, life support machines, weapons systems, or any other environment requiring fail-safe performance in which the failure of such product or method could lead to death, personal injury, or severe physical or environmental damage;

(6) violate any applicable local, state, national or international law including, for example, export laws or regulations; or

(7) conduct business or profit-related activities including, for example, marketing, promotion, advertisement and recruitment.

SEGA may take action against You and/or Your Account if You fail to abide by the foregoing or any other rules and standards of conduct set forth in this Agreement, the EULA, or the Rules of Conduct. Such action may include without limitation the issuance of a warning about a violation, the suspension or termination of Your Account and/or legal action against You. You understand that SEGA is not required to provide You with notice prior to suspending or terminating Your Account for violating any of these rules and standards.



Pretty much it says obey the law, don't be evil to other people, and don't promote your business...

haruna
Nov 20, 2003, 04:09 PM
The Terms of Service are a contract that is binding in the United States of America.
Violating the Terms of Service contract can have legal repercussions for users residing in the United States of America.

Sega of America is subject to every single applicable American law. Sega of America can be prosecuted by State district attourneys as well as federal prosecutors. If the Terms of Service allowed people to use PSO as a means for people to conduct criminal activity, the Federal Marshalls wouldn't be too keen on that.

I'm an American. If I wanted my business to operate in say, Egypt, the Egyptian branch of my company would be subjected to all the rules and regulations that the Egyptian government demands.
I can't just say "oh, I'm an American, my business doesn't need to follow your laws, even when in your country!"

Such is the tricky nature of international business!

WrJuicyFruit
Nov 20, 2003, 05:05 PM
And this is why Sega should have employed moderators..

darthsaber9x9
Nov 20, 2003, 05:42 PM
why does noone mention the good ol' limeys http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif lol. cant think of a good reason to but still( i am one btw http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif:D:D go british pride http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif:D:D:D)

Scejntjynahl
Nov 20, 2003, 06:58 PM
Uhmm, simple solution, if you must be a hateful person on pso, keep it to your damn self and private mail the other neanderthals that share your oblique point of view. Do not make the whole community suffer the lack of depth in your thoughts by forcing us to read your trash.

Meh and Bleh.

polishedweasel
Nov 20, 2003, 07:20 PM
On 2003-11-20 15:58, Furankunichan wrote:
Uhmm, simple solution, if you must be a hateful person on pso, keep it to your damn self and private mail the other neanderthals that share your oblique point of view. Do not make the whole community suffer the lack of depth in your thoughts by forcing us to read your trash.

Meh and Bleh.




Listen here, unfortunately you don't have to deal with these moronic people spamming the lobbies and running around calling people "niglets" after every other sentence. I don't have an "oblique" point of view, and where does wanting to get rid of the socially challenged idiots become a neanderthalic practice? Another thing, you read and posted in this thread with your own free will.

So I beleive, it's weasel 3: Vega trash boy 0.

Next...

Scejntjynahl
Nov 20, 2003, 07:27 PM
On 2003-11-20 16:20, polishedweasel wrote:


On 2003-11-20 15:58, Furankunichan wrote:
Uhmm, simple solution, if you must be a hateful person on pso, keep it to your damn self and private mail the other neanderthals that share your oblique point of view. Do not make the whole community suffer the lack of depth in your thoughts by forcing us to read your trash.

Meh and Bleh.




Listen here, unfortunately you don't have to deal with these moronic people spamming the lobbies and running around calling people "niglets" after every other sentence. I don't have an "oblique" point of view, and where does wanting to get rid of the socially challenged idiots become a neanderthalic practice? Another thing, you read and posted in this thread with your own free will.

So I beleive, it's weasel 3: Vega trash boy 0.

Next...



PolishedWeasel it seems that we have a misunderstanding, I apologize. I meant the ppl who throw racist remarks, if they must do so because they lack the intelligence, and if Sega will not ban them, I suggested they private mailed others that have the same level of mentality and spare us their spamming of lobbys. Btw, I have never been in Vega, and I dont consider myself a trash boy.

I think Ive seen you before in Antares, not sure, look for Sentinal spelled very uniquely. Again I apologize for any misunderstading.

polishedweasel
Nov 20, 2003, 07:30 PM
On 2003-11-20 16:27, Furankunichan wrote:


On 2003-11-20 16:20, polishedweasel wrote:


On 2003-11-20 15:58, Furankunichan wrote:
Uhmm, simple solution, if you must be a hateful person on pso, keep it to your damn self and private mail the other neanderthals that share your oblique point of view. Do not make the whole community suffer the lack of depth in your thoughts by forcing us to read your trash.

Meh and Bleh.




Listen here, unfortunately you don't have to deal with these moronic people spamming the lobbies and running around calling people "niglets" after every other sentence. I don't have an "oblique" point of view, and where does wanting to get rid of the socially challenged idiots become a neanderthalic practice? Another thing, you read and posted in this thread with your own free will.

So I beleive, it's weasel 3: Vega trash boy 0.

Next...



PolishedWeasel it seems that we have a misunderstanding, I apologize. I meant the ppl who throw racist remarks, if they must do so because they lack the intelligence, and if Sega will not ban them, I suggested they private mailed others that have the same level of mentality and spare us their spamming of lobbys. Btw, I have never been in Vega, and I dont consider myself a trash boy.

I think Ive seen you before in Antares, not sure, look for Sentinal spelled very uniquely. Again I apologize for any misunderstading.




OKOKOK! Whoa big difference. Yeah sorry bout jumpin down your throat....my characters are Carolann, MC hammer, Leilani, Yunalesca...so you may have seen me.

LamerPanda
Nov 20, 2003, 07:59 PM
On 2003-11-19 18:55, Kasumi19 wrote:
Unfortunately the people committing these acts are allowed to express themselves per their first amendment rights.


I know it's already been mentioned, but why does no one check PSO's terms of service (http://www.sega.com/community/profiles/pso_gcn/pc_front/gcn_pc_terms.jhtml)? =/

"(b) Conduct

You agree to abide by the following standards set forth in this Agreement, the EULA, and the Rules of Conduct. Without limiting the foregoing, You agree that You will not use the Sega.com website(s), Phantasy Star Online, the Official PSO Website, or the PSO Server to:

(1) post, transmit, or cause to be posted or transmitted, any inappropriate Content, which includes Content that (i) violates any third party's intellectual property or other rights, (ii) is unlawful, threatening, harassing libelous, privacy invading, vulgar, harmful, pornographic, indecent, obscene, hateful, or otherwise objectionable, or (iii) contains software viruses; "

They could be banned for this as it violates the TOS, but haven't been yet.

The thing is, writing letters probably isn't going to work, because they don't follow through on half of the things included in the TOS. The thing I wanted to point out is that you should read the TOS, and read the whole thing. Some of the stuff covered in the TOS is just plain funny, actually. >_> "which includes any use of the Sega.com website(s), Phantasy Star Online, the Official PSO Website, or the PSO Server to design or develop, alone or in conjunction with any other product or service, any product or method to be used in the operation of nuclear facilities, aircraft navigation or communications systems, air traffic control, life support machines, weapons systems, or any other environment requiring fail-safe performance"

...OK? XD

Edit: Dang, I keep screwing up. XD

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Firocket1690
Nov 20, 2003, 11:20 PM
*casuallly scrolls down topic*

Polished, you still play in Antares 8 ?!!!

I usually lock myself solo in one of the unused JP ships...

or

I'm in Mintaka 02, 03, and/or 04.

or, find me in Altair with C:DOS>RUN.

Oh, and a few friends called me to Antares last week ...
It was rather amusing, they had a bunch of NK kids spamming "NK" symbols, and a bunch of other kids spamming the "NK sux" symbol ...

With a site ad large as PSOW, the 'official block' is usually full of crap,no offense so ...




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Eum
Nov 21, 2003, 12:50 PM
On 2003-11-20 20:20, Firocket1690 wrote:

With a site ad large as PSOW, the 'official block' is usually full of crap,no offense so ...



Naturally. I don't see why people are so shocked. The majority of the people in the lobby are like the majority of the people here. However, because the majority of PSOW also can't read, they don't realize it.

5% of the people here have brains, and the same is true for PSO!

Cheers!

Joltox
Nov 22, 2003, 12:02 AM
I may be totally late in this discussion, but can someone summarize to me what is going on?

Shattered_weasel
Nov 22, 2003, 01:21 AM
no i dont ho

Wewt
Nov 22, 2003, 01:14 PM
On 2003-11-21 21:02, Joltox wrote:
I may be totally late in this discussion, but can someone summarize to me what is going on?


They're angry at Britney Spears.

LordCronai
Nov 22, 2003, 01:19 PM
The fact is that it is far more important to ST that Bruce is a paying customer than if he's racist or not. It won't change no matter how many letters you send.

Zaneatron
Nov 22, 2003, 01:22 PM
for a start im annoyed about how the conversation began on the lines of american law. there are more that just american players in the game ok. so stop turning everyting into what america does, or says.

now, doesn anyone know who [Arg]Noodles is?
shimarisu managed to get him banned some time ago. you may see him on now, but that is because he has a new game, and has stopped his practices which got him banned in the first place (fsoding people joining lobbies)

Shimarisu did this by getting his guild card, and getting a bunch of people to phone up sega and tell them his Guild Card number. this is directly linked to your account because its assigned to your game, which is linked to your serial/access numbers. this way he got banned and had to buy a new game to get around his banning. i dont know how willing Bruce Lee NK is to buy another game just to spam racist remarks. but he must be pretty persistant if he keeps his account renewing his HL. This is a confirmed way of banning people, its just a case of whether Sega will listen this time. i have his GC number. so if we decide to go ahead with it i could post it so we can all claim credit for his banning http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
I suspect that sega have to check this out, so that you cant just randomly ban people.

Also if he does get banned, and then he gats another game, try and get his GC so we can do it all over again http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

polishedweasel
Nov 22, 2003, 05:36 PM
So you acually have the fucktards guild card? Wow, good going!

Wewt
Nov 22, 2003, 07:10 PM
Congratulations, Zaneatron! You have just given Sonic Team a reason to NOT ban people who get complaints against them.

Firocket1690
Nov 23, 2003, 01:45 AM
... Or, instead of making the world the way you would like it, you can stay out of Antares 8 and play somewhere else.

JP has about 8 ships they don't use, EU is generally (usually) pretty much empty, and aside from Antares and Vega, US is not that bad.

Gather your friends, lock yourselves, and stay away from trouble...

Think of kindergarden. There's a bully. you can either stay away from him, or you can go through the trouble of calling a teacher. Just leave the world alone. Aside from his spam in Antares 08-01, he's just wasting his time. He's probably got a turbo controller set with that one shortcut sitting there all day.

P.S. I have a "NK sux" symbol for whoever wants to capture it http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Zaneatron
Nov 23, 2003, 11:53 AM
On 2003-11-22 16:10, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:
Congratulations, Zaneatron! You have just given Sonic Team a reason to NOT ban people who get complaints against them.


yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees?

I (?) have just given ST a reason?
Did you read my post? i didnt get the other guy banned, but i know how it was done. so you make it sound that because people can be banned because people complain about them. and therefore not ban them because you could phone them up about anyone.
i think they would need some form of evidence to actually ban people, otherwise its a stupid system.
but hey ,maybe if they employed a few more people to actually see what people were doing and actually do proper checking of the game we would all be happy. hell if they were there in the start and banned people duping, harrasing, being a pain in the ass, racist and so fourth, it would be a better place because they could possibly have been banned and examples of them made. this way everyone would play fair and by the TOS. but as we all know sega are lazy http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Wewt
Nov 23, 2003, 12:02 PM
On 2003-11-22 10:22, Zaneatron wrote:
Also if he does get banned, and then he gats another game, try and get his GC so we can do it all over again http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


I did read your post. What I quoted was the highlight of it.

Zaneatron
Nov 23, 2003, 01:34 PM
:S *is slightly confused*

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees, that is a highlight.
the fact is though i can walk away from the racists and so fourth, but that solves nothing. we have to take some form of action against these fucktards. i know phoning up sega with guild card numbers is potentially a threat to anyone whos ever given out their card, but they arnt going to randomly ban people left right and centre. i think the dupers are safe, in a manner of speaking, just those who cheat malisiously and are like Bruse lee who who will have problem, if sega listen. there are only a few racists out there on pso, its not going to be a huge loss to them.

On a side note, i think its quite ironic how Bruce Lee NK gave his char that name, Bruce Lee (the real one) being a recipiant of racism himself. what a twat, thats all i can say

Wewt
Nov 23, 2003, 02:25 PM
On 2003-11-23 10:34, Zaneatron wrote:
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees, that is a highlight.
No, that is the highlight.

While Sonic Team/Sega couldn't care less about what might be taking place here on PSOW, they might in there own message boards. If you get somebody banned doing what is proposed here, the person could get his/her circle of friends to do the same to you.

Ness
Nov 23, 2003, 03:11 PM
Wow, it's been along time since I've posted in a serious thread!

Anyway.....

Want an easy way to deal with racist; it doesn't involve ST, Guild Cards, or anything? Ignore them! They only do that stuff to get attention and by responding to them, trying to get them banned, and making threads about them on messageboards, you are giving them exactly what they want. I bet there are a few of them reading this thread right now and laughing their heads off.

polishedweasel
Nov 24, 2003, 03:56 AM
Hey Ness. Go back the the shadow zone. Noone likes you, you have no friends, and there is no god. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I think that about sums it up.

Ignoring them isn't going to keep them from the servers, I still have to see that penis gobbler every other time I go to antares 8. Yeah, that's about it.

Ness
Nov 24, 2003, 09:31 AM
On 2003-11-24 00:56, polishedweasel wrote:
Hey Ness. Go back the the shadow zone. Noone likes you, you have no friends, and there is no god. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I think that about sums it up.


It's Thanksgiving break so I have alot more time on my hand so I'm staying here (well for a week, anyway). Also, Shadow Zone is capitalized and you're right, there is no god.



Ignoring them isn't going to keep them from the servers, I still have to see that penis gobbler every other time I go to antares 8. Yeah, that's about it.



I may not keep him off the servers but he may stop making racists remarks. Like I said, they only do it for attention so if you don't acknowlege them, they will stop doing it. Also here's another solution: Stop going to Antares 8.

Shattered_weasel
Nov 24, 2003, 08:32 PM
On 2003-11-24 00:56, polishedweasel wrote:
Hey Ness. Go back the the shadow zone. Noone likes you, you have no friends, and there is no god. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I think that about sums it up.

Ignoring them isn't going to keep them from the servers, I still have to see that penis gobbler every other time I go to antares 8. Yeah, that's about it.



*raises hand*

I like Ness....because he is good for me....TO POOP ON. ahahahhah. God that never gets old.

Dude man you know this isn't going to work. I think that PSOW should get a new Ship/Block because Ant8 is too full nowadays.

DOG21313
Nov 24, 2003, 08:56 PM
On 2003-11-24 06:31, Ness wrote:


On 2003-11-24 00:56, polishedweasel wrote:
Hey Ness. Go back the the shadow zone. Noone likes you, you have no friends, and there is no god. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I think that about sums it up.


It's Thanksgiving break so I have alot more time on my hand so I'm staying here (well for a week, anyway). Also, Shadow Zone is capitalized and you're right, there is no god.



Ignoring them isn't going to keep them from the servers, I still have to see that penis gobbler every other time I go to antares 8. Yeah, that's about it.



I may not keep him off the servers but he may stop making racists remarks. Like I said, they only do it for attention so if you don't acknowlege them, they will stop doing it. Also here's another solution: Stop going to Antares 8.



The only other half populated blocks were hit tonight. Antares 10 I saw someone teaching a group of people how to FSOD others, and I went to Deneb 9 and saw some bastards spamming a stupid symbol chat. Actually, I had to take sanctuary in Antares 8, good thing none of the regular spammers were there. I say we move blocks comepletly, and I mean to a completly different server, EU would be good, need more people anyways...

Ironic how Ant 8 was the only place without morons tonight... O.O;;

NKOTB
Nov 24, 2003, 10:51 PM
Somebody should call the ACLU and tell them PSO is filled with racists and Sega doesn't care. It would be national news within a week!

No kidding, I bet they would demand Sega release the guys personal info and they would try to press criminal charges for online RPG racism.

Well, I'm not goign to do the complaining to the ACLU myself, but here is a direct link to their feedback page:

http://www.aclu.org/feedback/feedback.cfm

Ness
Nov 24, 2003, 11:30 PM
I doubt the ACLU is going toget all worked up over a videogame, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if the did. This is a sad world that we live in.

NKOTB
Nov 24, 2003, 11:46 PM
It's not just a video game; it's:

Sega
Nintendo
Microsoft
Racism
Children

I would say they would defnitely get involved.

polishedweasel
Nov 25, 2003, 12:13 AM
I'll see what I can do, I don't want the servers gone though...we'll see.....