View Full Version : KIRREK is he good or bad?
DarkSoldier
12-20-2003, 08:39 AM
is KIreek good ar bad?
DarkSoldier
12-20-2003, 08:40 AM
all i was wondering is if Kireek good ar bad cause he helps you then he fights you so is he good or bad cause im just a http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif inside my head.
Butoden
12-20-2003, 09:32 AM
I think he's evil. But since he's a HUcast like my main I choose GOOD http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
Malkavian
12-20-2003, 09:32 AM
Why he must be one thing or the other?? Is an android from a criminal organization. In some quests looks like he is affected by Dark Falz too. And in Seat of the Heart.. I'm not sure heh. Theorically Kireek and Sue follow a request from the Lab. That would be still seen as bad from Episode 1 view. But I think he just follows the curiosity of Sue. Sue was never a real Black Paper member. She only wanted to know stuff.
Zalana
12-20-2003, 11:18 AM
I think Kireek is a very very very good HUcast. If I saw him in real life I would go an get his autograph. To tell you the truth though I think he's a hacker because he has unlimited monomates an such an I just don't appreciate that too much Kireek so now I have to label you bad as well. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif
DualHydra
12-20-2003, 11:33 AM
He tryed to kill me...Hes bad. Thats why I took his Soul Eater and didnt use a moon on him.
Butoden
12-20-2003, 02:06 PM
Good Choice. But I would not get his autograph, I would ignore him and run away when he's out of my view http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif Scary HUcast, you never know http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif
navci
12-20-2003, 04:22 PM
Third option.
Kireek is teh seksi. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
badbitz
12-20-2003, 06:00 PM
Third option:
Kireek is teh seksi.
ya that should be there
VulpesMundi
12-20-2003, 07:08 PM
On 2003-12-20 07:32, Malkavian wrote:
Sue was never a real Black Paper member. She only wanted to know stuff.
Yes, she is a member of Black Paper. Bernie clarifies that she is if you tell Sue your name and then talk to Bernie in Unsealed Door. Sue's Black Paper partner is Gekigasky, who appears in a good portion of the quests she's in.
As for Kireek, he's a pretty bad apple. He's known as the Black Paper's Black Hound. His job is pretty much as muscle, to take out anyone who gets in their way. He tries to kill you if you are too secretive (don't tell Sue your name), but he'll actually help you if you try to befriend Sue (tell her your name). If you don't tell Sue your name Kireek also winds up getting infected by the D-virus, which makes him go completely berserk. Another good reason to take him down in that scenario.
The interesting thing about your character is that you remain pretty neutral in your standing. You're not really good or evil. You're simply doing a job, and will fight anything that threatens your life. Other than that, all you really get out of it is money and items. Besides which, defeating Falz and Olga are in your best interest since they REALLY threaten your life. The fact that you're saving everyone else from Pioneer 2 is just a coincidence.
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Robo47
12-20-2003, 08:01 PM
Hey Vulpes, Geki-whatever is that RAmar with the Cyborg face right?
Wouldn't be neat though if your character could join BLack Paper?
VulpesMundi
12-20-2003, 08:29 PM
No. If you go into Dr. Osto's Research he'll be the RAmar standing around in the second half of the map. I think he's also standing next to the check room if you play Black Paper.
Genoa
12-20-2003, 08:54 PM
KIREEK is neither good or bad. He mentions his master when he speaks with you. He's only following orders. Though it doesn't make much sence because Androids can think for themselves... oh well, I think he's alright. My FOmar uses the betta syth though... man I love Soul Banish!
joluh
12-20-2003, 10:27 PM
No good, No evil, he just was doing what he thought was good for himself, first me, then me, again me, and then you, that's how he thinks.
Also i don't think Androids can understand our conceptions of good or bad, i mean what i think it's good or bad it's not what any of you think it is.
eDIT: so IMHO he's just good, as he's doing what he think it's good for him, and since he's an android someone else may be controlling him, so it's not his fault... poor Kireek, and he's so cool
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Butoden
12-22-2003, 04:31 AM
If he's infected by a virus than it's definetly not his fault http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif
Malkavian
12-22-2003, 10:45 AM
On 2003-12-20 17:08, VulpesMundi wrote:
On 2003-12-20 07:32, Malkavian wrote:
Sue was never a real Black Paper member. She only wanted to know stuff.
Yes, she is a member of Black Paper. Bernie clarifies that she is if you tell Sue your name and then talk to Bernie in Unsealed Door. Sue's Black Paper partner is Gekigasky, who appears in a good portion of the quests she's in.
Yes but. There is a Quest where you can ask her why she went on Pioneer 2. And in Seat of Heart she says something similar to that the only reason he joined Black Paper is because she wanted to know what was going on in Ragol and the Dr.Osto researchs. She was investigating more for herself than for Black Paper.
And that is the point that makes me doubt about Kireek. Since he followed Sue, a not really loyal Black Paper member.
Black000Moon
12-22-2003, 11:04 AM
Kireek is your best friend! He gives free hugs and rubbies on tuesday!he works for black paper and it really depends if you tell sue your name. But i would have to say bad because Black Paper is a group of bad people and he also gets controlled by dark falz or some type of virus. Thats why if you don't tell Sue your name he talks all weird and stuff and wants to devour your soul.
Blanks
12-22-2003, 07:59 PM
There is no way Kireek is bad. He lets you fight him three times which is cool since all you do throughout the entire offline game is fight monsters and not regular people. And second, he gives you a soul eater even though he should give his soul banish.http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_argh.gif
SolRiver
12-22-2003, 08:26 PM
I think he is just neutral. He mind his own bussiness, he do his job and that's it.
And of course, he get excited over strong opponent...
Black000Moon
12-22-2003, 09:23 PM
On 2003-12-22 17:59, Blanks wrote:
There is no way Kireek is bad. He lets you fight him three times which is cool since all you do throughout the entire offline game is fight monsters and not regular people. And second, he gives you a soul eater even though he should give his soul banish.http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_argh.gif
died
anwserman
12-22-2003, 11:30 PM
Just slightly incapacitated, you mean! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Arkne
12-26-2003, 08:35 AM
back to the people that were saying that he was interested in helping hisself before anyone else, that in itself is kinda evil, being good means you are supposed to help those less fortunate, that isn't to say that i help others before myself but im just saying
Ezellaur
12-26-2003, 08:48 PM
Ever play the Training Quest on Ult and have his skinny robot ass telling you what to do? (Especially after you just rubbed his nose in the ground in Vhard Ruins)
So annoying....
I'm gonna go with bad.
Kireek is god. He knows about things outside of the game. He talks of button combonations and lock-on-cursor colors. None of the other NPCs do that. What a scary guy (he must be slain).
Thepandaman
12-27-2003, 09:39 AM
On ultimate battle training:
"insert name here, look at your controller"
*looks down at controller and realises that it looks exactly the same as it did on all the other difficulty modes....looks up again*
hmmmm....maybe they sould have changed battle training slightly for ultimate
Caecilius
12-27-2003, 12:01 PM
On 2003-12-27 07:39, Thepandaman wrote:
On ultimate battle training:
"insert name here, look at your controller"
*looks down at controller and realises that it looks exactly the same as it did on all the other difficulty modes....looks up again*
Not if, like I did, you buy and set up a Wavebird just after VH since your regular controller got mashed...
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