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LollipopLolita
12-24-2003, 02:48 PM
Guys, I'm not sure you noticed what eRUPT has done but at the bottom of every entry in the card database, there is a feature that lets you submit info on when and where you found that particular card. Check it out.

http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=25&version=v4

It would really, really help if you guys could use this feature and submit info if you remember the details when you find the card. This way we can start seeing breakdowns of patterns. Try is out okay?

Zaneatron
12-24-2003, 03:01 PM
the next new card i find will be added, but it requires me to remember, i know its not hard, but its being in the right place at the right time.

i think there are a few additions that could possibly be made ti it as well, such as whether it evolved or not http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif what the odds of that evoloution were, etc. could be hard to do though :S
forget i said that :S

an accursed c let me doen this time, gaaaaaaa

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Arislan
12-24-2003, 06:03 PM
Actually, I just PMed Lollipop on the odds of Evolution. Seems to be around a 1-2% chance of occuring, and the percentage chance of it actually changing is based on how many copies of the card you would have if you were to get that card unchanged.

01-10: 55%
11-19: 60%
20-35: 70%
36-49: 80%
50-up: 90%

LollipopLolita
12-24-2003, 09:43 PM
how the hell did i completely forget about that.. eheheh >_<

-STE-
12-25-2003, 01:44 AM
On 2003-12-24 16:03, Arislan wrote:
Actually, I just PMed Lollipop on the odds of Evolution. Seems to be around a 1-2% chance of occuring, and the percentage chance of it actually changing is based on how many copies of the card you would have if you were to get that card unchanged.

01-10: 55%
11-19: 60%
20-35: 70%
36-49: 80%
50-up: 90%



You think a card can be change in to another like an evolution and this card can become always the same
i mean for exemple saber can trasform to a durandall (is not true ok is an exemple) or saber can trasform to more weapon items etc?

Arislan
12-25-2003, 01:55 AM
Well, I had an action card transform into my first Gal Wind, so I don't think it's really limited to the same card type. The game doesn't disinguish between Item types past Sword, Gun, Wand, and the like anyway... I think the Card Evolution is more based off of what cards you don't have yet, and gives a chance based on percentage f getting one of those, and if it rolls low, gives you a different card you do have one of, but is rarer than the current, instead.

Saladwood
12-25-2003, 02:34 AM
think there are a few additions that could possibly be made ti it as well, such as whether it evolved or not what the odds of that evoloution were, etc. could be hard to do though :S

actually, Lolli and eRUPT didn't forget, it has a transformation yes and no field!

Zaneatron
12-25-2003, 04:59 AM
yes, which is why i put a strike through it and said "forget i said that"

but i was going submission crazy yesterday. every new card i found was submitted. what about old cards, still want those? i only did new cards becaus, well they were new to me, and most of the other things i got were normal things that most people have at least 10 of already so it wouldnt be much of a problem :S

i still think the percentages could be added, unless they have been added, i havent checked yet. and would it be possible to switch the default transform setting to no? seeing as theres more of a chance it didnt.

some of my findings have been really sparadic and weird.

Jools
12-25-2003, 05:47 AM
I was about to post my findings but I see you need to have over a hundred posts to do that.

Jools

Zaneatron
12-25-2003, 05:55 AM
yes, but its probably needed. to stop spammers bulking up the confirms, and to ensure that the person subitting has spent a reasonable amount of time on the site/boards and can be "trusted" http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

(directed at admins)
do you get the confirmations individually? so you can actually sift through them and discard any potential spam?



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-STE-
12-25-2003, 06:46 AM
I think is little useless only few cards come out for transformation dunno...

I only can say you get more rare cards when your clv go up after lv 30 you can have lots of R cards.

I dont know if admins play this game seems no il lv 43 now and i can only comfirm this have rare cards is based on CLv more hight it is more rare cards you can have.

Arislan can confirm this too i think right?

Im finishing database with english translation of cards i have and with arislan translation of cards i dont have (thanks to him) http://www.phantasystaronline.it/ep3carddatabase.html

if someone want send my pics of cards i dont have and description with english code i appreciate this.

I usually have 10 new cards at day so in 2 weeks i hope to finish database just for end of holidays better. : P


We can start write about transformation of cards like
cards 1 transform to card 2 and i had xx number of cards 1. This is good thing lets see if transformation is based on something.

Arislan
12-25-2003, 08:20 AM
Yes, it's been confirmed that higher levels of CLvl give you more rare cards. This isn't really new news in particular. However, you have to remember as well that you're soon going to come to the point where you only need some S and SS cards, and those are not exactly things that pop up after every battle.

Good luck on finishing the DB before the Holidays are over, hope you can do it, but honestly, I'm not seeing the DB on any site being finished before mid-late January, mostly filling in little bits here and there. I am very happy to say that this card database on the site is *THE MOST* complete card database of just about *any* PSO site on the Web, including all the JP sites out there. Congrats to all of you, and thank you for your help on that, it's all much appreciated.

-STE-
12-25-2003, 11:24 AM
Weel i know one person who have all cards and he is lv 65 "only".

Yes when i say complete i mean most of cards uploaded with pics and description now we miss only few cards right i have 322 pics of cards of 482 total cards on game (maybe more if other event cards come out)and lots of description only without pic. hope to finish soon because im free now maybe left only very are cards 20 30 cards and add it when have, with the help of all we have lots of cards and im wrong to call it my database because we made it with the help of lots of person you for first hehe.

LollipopLolita
12-25-2003, 02:00 PM
yes we play. and yes we've always known the higher the level the rarer the cards, but we want to see this definite pattern in clvls if any, which is why we want people to submit the info.

-STE-
12-26-2003, 01:54 AM
Yesterday i notice this:

booma trasform to -----> Rika's Claw
i was lv 43
and when i looked of many Booma cards i had it was 43 !!

same number of cards and same Clv = good trasformation ???

Very strange thing, i hopei found something usefull.