How do you get an S rank?

[rbf2000]

E, E, E, E, C, E, E, E, C+, E, E, E, E.

That's about how my rankings go. What's the best way to get a freaking S? I was able to do it on the trial version. I am playing as a hero, so generally my strategy is to get to the arkz as fast as possible, sidestepping the summoned monsters unless they block the way. But still I get E's. If I do it particularly fast, I get a C.

Any tips?

(This is offline, btw).

Also, while I'm here...

http://rbf2000.com/images/PSOq1.jpg
What does it mean when it says it's already been dispatched? I assume it has something to do with the below pic (have to make a deck with a specific character). It would be nice if I could read japanese...
http://rbf2000.com/images/PSOq2.jpg

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[zefi]

It was mentioned in another thread, but to get an S, here is the widely accepted model:

1. You don't want to lose any items [AKA, you don't want the COM to get EXP]. They are ways to get rid of the COM's EXP, too.

2. You want to destroy as much as humanly possible [AKA, you want to get the most EXP possible].

However, in my opinion since it largely hasn't been proven yet, your S-Rank only comes from:

1. Doing a lot of damage. With my Stella deck in which I could do 22+ against guns with 3 or less HP, I consistently got an S-Rank. I think there was once in this bizarre marathon of solitary testing in which I got an A+.

There are times in which I can never figure out how I got an S-Rank exactly, but from my testing with Stella, I constantly got it because of doing a lot of damage even while the COM gained EXP and I didn't have that much in the end due to the inability with the particular combination to attack more than once. I think it's all based on percentage. The COM will need to have done a certain percentage of the damage you done. I don't think it goes any further.

[-STE-]

rank is based on a sum of different things if this is same of more of 85 points you can have s rank ( when i ttranslate page i let you know how to have s rank and all other rank)

[zefi]

But in the end, rbf, just ignore it and do as much damage as possible. It'll nullify anything STE and anyone else presents and give you your not-so-hard-earned S-Rank.

[-STE-]

Rank is not only based on max damage you do so dont post false things.

[zefi]

Uh, I'm afraid that's a large part of it, and I cited my testing to back it up.

Don't act like you know everything.

[zefi]

Another example since certain people can't think straight, is when I was playing with Shimarisu, she kept doing 12-15+ damage with a combo she had created, and after the match was over, she said she got an S. However, if my memory serves me correctly, this is also the match in which she lost her items quite a few times due to poor dice rolls.

[no1]

I'm afraid to say damage does seem to do a large part... but that could be because you had to combo 2/3 cards together. That seems to do things as well. I've done a few 2/3 combos a match and got a high rank. Everything is connected in this game.
High EXP seems to help but not necessary. Time seems to be pretty useless to me. I've killed in a few turns, broken a few cards and high damage and that got me a high rank. I've had a drawn out battle, broke loads of cards, and did low damage.

I think combos and EXP give you the high rank... but we will never know without the code...

[Zaneatron]

An S rank can be attained from destroying a lot of enemy cards, losing very few if not none of your own, lose little if not no HP at all in the match.

My best advice is to do a 1 vs. 1 match against an arkz in free battle. play on the beach. let them summon their monsters and dont try to side step thep. if you have enough atk and def points go for a kill or as much damage as possible. gradually work you way up the field killing off the monsters along the way, then try and finish big http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif i like to do that because it looks good, but it shouldnt hurt. if theres a monster left and you think you can kill it then the ark, try to kill it, the chances are youll be able to do so, youll get more exp, and if you do sheild it, theyre unlikely to have another card to protect themselves thus and easier kill http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[-STE-]

http://www.phantasystaronline.it/images2/dscn0318.jpg

[no1]

Can you scan it again? There is reflection over some of the text. Looks like (can't see clearly) that the

35
+
damage done - damage recieved
+
max combo * 3
-
damage done to character * 1.8
-
turns elapsed * 2.7
+
action cards used/damage (?) * 0.8

so basically (if what I wrote above is right), the best way to get points is to do the most damage...
Since the combos only give you multiples of 3 points, they don't give you a lot really. Damage done to character only becomes a real problem when you lose a lot of it. I don't know what "tan" is... but that seem to be where you lose the most points. Action card damage doesn't seem to give you a lot.
So the most points are gotten from "tan" and doing lots of damage and making sure you don't get damage...

Get over 85 points, and get S

EDIT: Made some mistakes.
EDIT: Found out what "taan" meant ^_^;. So the number of turns you use has a huge effect on score.

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[-STE-]

My scan is broked : ( i make pic with camera..
try look 319 320 321 322 pic just add number at link i wrote. I try make better pic but is hard with cam always have light.

[-STE-]

http://www.phantasystaronline.it/images2/dscn0323.jpg
here i think u can read all http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif if not i will try make better pic when i return home

[no1]

heheh thanks. I knew I knew "taan". It means turn I'll reedit my previous post.

[-STE-]

ok pic is uploading now 0326 0325 ecc... all same page
can you translate other info on this page if is usefull?

if you save on pc and open is better than browser windows try pic is very big

[no1]

My command of the Japanese language is poor at best. I can translate some stuff but by no means all of that. I can make educated guesses though, which you can do too... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

The table on the bottom of page 020, seems to talk about the card transformations. So a N4 card has a 60% chance of changing to a N2 card. If that's true, then you can only get SS rank cards, when a R1 card transforms. And even then, you only get a 0.005% chance :S

[-STE-]

ah ok : D

yes i understand something about card transformation
r1 can transform to SS 0.0005 % awwww rare hehe

[decswxaqz]

That is rare hehehe. I've managed to come on my true ID now. I forgot I registered this account. I am no1. But the nice people at PSOW have decided to block my IP at home so I have to use other methods to get online http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I wonder if we will ever see a SS rank card... First we have to have enough of 1 type of R1 cards, then we have a small chance they will transform, and THEN another chance it might not transform, during the transformation change (on booster card pack select screen).

[zefi]

Going by that translation, it's not hard to see WHY exactly someone inflicting a lot of damage [due to what it takes to do such] would get such high ranks at a consistent rate.

Your attitude about it, STE, was in fact not necessary. Popular proverb.

"A weak dog barks loudly."

[-STE-]

On 2004-01-13 06:29, zefi wrote:
Going by that translation, it's not hard to see WHY exactly someone inflicting a lot of damage [due to what it takes to do such] would get such high ranks at a consistent rate.

Your attitude about it, STE, was in fact not necessary. Popular proverb.

"A weak dog barks loudly."



what you need?

i posted metod to calculated rank like you see is not only besed on hight damage so dont talk more bye
if you want attack me on all topic just tell me ok i do same http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[-STE-]

On 2004-01-13 05:14, decswxaqz wrote:
That is rare hehehe. I've managed to come on my true ID now. I forgot I registered this account. I am no1. But the nice people at PSOW have decided to block my IP at home so I have to use other methods to get online http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I wonder if we will ever see a SS rank card... First we have to have enough of 1 type of R1 cards, then we have a small chance they will transform, and THEN another chance it might not transform, during the transformation change (on booster card pack select screen).




No is not like this, you can have SS rank card normally without transformation only some SS rank cards come out only from a transformation and this is very rare hehe

[zefi]

Although you're not attacking me, and I wasn't attacking you there. I was saying it isn't hard to see why I thought dealing a large amount of damage gave you a good rank for the most part. I also said I didn't appreciate your attitude regarding it, because it was an opinion and I cited past experiences.

If you weren't so defensive you'd realize a lot of the time people aren't attacking you. You victimize yourself, and it's really obnoxious. Also, if you think your redundant insults are hitting home, then I'm afraid you're living in the dark.

[-STE-]

On 2004-01-13 07:52, zefi wrote:
Although you're not attacking me, and I wasn't attacking you there. I was saying it isn't hard to see why I thought dealing a large amount of damage gave you a good rank for the most part. I also said I didn't appreciate your attitude regarding it, because it was an opinion and I cited past experiences.

If you weren't so defensive you'd realize a lot of the time people aren't attacking you. You victimize yourself, and it's really obnoxious. Also, if you think your redundant insults are hitting home, then I'm afraid you're living in the dark.



lol ok but dont need to use fake account for attacking me
Is stupid http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[zefi]

This isn't a fake account, genius. Have an administrator check IPs if you don't believe me.



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[-STE-]

lol i can have lots ip...

[zefi]

Good for you, because I can't. As well, I can't change my IPs fast enough to post simultaneously with Shimarisu. My goodness, I must be magic.

[-STE-]

ok np if you want attack me on all topic just do it maybe call other friends nowyou are only 2 against me http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

bye ok stop posting now dont want to make topic boring for other person who post here sorry for other

closed

[Lit]

well i have done 6 damage 1 time and i still got a S so its not much on DMG.....

[Shimarisu]

What does it mean when it says it's already dispatched?


Slight mistranstalion due to absense of a subject in Japanese. It means that character is dispatched on another mission in the offline story, and is not currently on P2.

I get S ranks 80% of the time, have worked out special combos for getting S ranks. The highest contributing factor does seem to be damage/cards destroyed. Please meet me online anyone, if you want to be shown how to build decks that earn S ranks.

- Shimarisu

[Shimarisu]

On 2004-01-13 09:01, Swertesjr wrote:
well i have done 6 damage 1 time and i still got a S so its not much on DMG.....



It is dependant on various factors. Doing only 6 damage (I assume you won on time?) probably earned you an S because you won despite doing very little, so the game assumed you did something very clever.

The EASIEST way of getting an S, is to do a lot of damage. Another surefire way to get an S, is to not lose any items, not lose any HP to story character, and beat enough to get +2 dice.

Could we start a thread to crack the rank determining code? Everyone, please post your exact stats after battle, if you got an S in exceptional circumstances (like only doing 6 damage). Maybe we can work this out.

- Shimarisu

[decswxaqz]

I've created a calculator that can be used to calculate your score.

http://www.geocities.com/decswxaqz/ep3_rank.html

[Shimarisu]

Bleh, OK, I'm going to be useful. STE, you'll probably not take account of this post next time you accuse me of ONLY posting to attack people, but here goes:

Full translation of the first page on your book, second will follow:

The cards you get change depending on mode

The percent chance of cards earned after battle are different depending on Scenario mode, battle mode (1 player), battle mode (2 player), online game mode.
As there are cases where something can only be acquired in a specific one of those modes, you have to play all the modes to get a lot of cards. On top of this, the percent chance of occuring changes depending on the player's card level.

The appearance ratio of each card is fixed.
The appearance ratio is decided based on mode.
If the player character's card level is high, the chance of a high rank card increases. Card level is decided for offline and online mode, your interaction in the mode is applied to this.
If a chance of transformation occurs, you can also get cards that originally were not availiable in that mode.

If the card level is high, the percent chance of a card appearing is also high.

The percent chance of a card appearing changes depending on whether the player character's card level is high. If you keep playing battles over and over, your card level increases but, if your card level is high the fixed ratio of card appearance is altered, the cards that did not appear when your card level was low
become easier to get. However, as there are two card levels for online and offline mode, the relevant card level is applied to each mode.

Rarity:

Online card level/Offline card level
Rarity is high 100-999 /50-999
. 50-99 /40-49
. 40-49 /30-39
. 33-39 /25-29
. 24-32 /20-24
. 17-23 /15-19
. 11-16 /10-14
. 5-10 /5-9
. 3-4 /3-4
Rarity is low 1-2 /1-2

POINT:

Level up your online and offline levels.

Understanding the structure of the chance of transformation:

Sometimes a card will shine, and the transform from a card different from the one you could see before.
With this development, called the chance of transformation, it's easier for cards to transform if you have a lot of the same card.
If the chance of transformation occurs, you should be able to get a high ranking card, moreover, thre's a high chance of getting a card you don't currently have.
The occurance percent is as below (obscured by reflection) even if it doesn't (obscured by reflection) the chance of transformation occurs.

POINT:

If the chance of transformation occurs, the chance of a high ranking card appearing increases!

The rank of a card changed
by chance of transformation:
N4 - Rank after transformation:
N2: 60%, N1: 30%, R4: 10%
N3 - Rank after transformation:
N1: 60%, R4: 30%, R3: 10%
N2 - Rank after transformation:
R4: 60%, R3: 30%, R2: 10%
N1 - Rank after transformation:
R4: 30%, R3: 55%, R2: 10%, R1: 5%
R4 - Rank after transformation:
R4: 10%, R3: 50%, R2: 35%, R1: 5%
R3 - Rank after transformation:
R3: 20%, R2: 50% R1: 28%, S: 2%
R2 - Rank after transformation:
R2: 30%, R1: 60%, S: 10%
R1 - Rank after transformation:
R1: 89.995%, S:10%, SS: 0.005%

Bored now.

- Shimarisu


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[rena-ko]

interesting read. thanks a lot.

lets see if we can get that into a guide or something.