All men are paedophiles, I hate them all.

[Shimarisu]

All men would fuck over somebody in their 20s for somebody younger given half the chance. All men secretly look at young girls still in high school. All men think that women past TWENTY FIVE are past it. All men abuse themselves over pictures of Tatu - underage girls. All men make me feel like I'm a fucking grandmother.

But this takes the cake. From one of my boyfriend's magazines.

SOW - Sexy Older Woman. An older woman you would not throw out of bed, eg. Gerri Halliwell.

Geri Halliwell is 29. My age. So now I am officially old. Yes I know the piece of writing was a joke, but people only make jokes like this to take the piss out of themselves, because it's secretly the horrible truth.

I'm going to kill myself. I honestly do not think I will reach 30. I said it 15 years ago and was told I would change my mind, but I did not, it only got worse.

- Shimarisu

[Sord]

If your seriously thinking about killing yourself, and you end up doing it half-way and are in the phyceward for 3/4ths of a month, tell me how things are hangin in yours.

On a side note, you might want to check out a poem i just put in fanworks. it's called Age is Meaningless. Which it is! It's just how long we have lived, not who we are now, what we do, what we want. I get ticked at that more than anything. As for the the men liking younger women, that I guess is based on the fact that in this day in age your talking about 20 year olds. And I'm 14...though i find it ironic, cause when your young (my age) you like older girls, yet when your older (past highscool) you like the younger girls. It's not that we really get obsessed with girls younger then us, just the girls in the high school level. But everyone, even girls, has something they sexually like that isn't completly right. That doesn't mean we are going to act on it.



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[derBauer]

What's wrong with 30? 30 isn't old, 60 is old.

So what people say 30 is old! People also say OJ is innocent.

[SpikeOtacon]

Shim, please don't do it. No killing yourself. Especially not over something so stupid as that. Yes, sure we'll crack jokes about stupid stuff, but it IS a joke. I have a girlfriend, and she likes the sense of humor I have (on here it doesn't show too much) and it is NOT like that. Not all men are like that, you gotta know that.
Think of the re-precussions of your suicide.
1. your boyfriend would be devistated by your death, as well as close family and friends.
2. Some PSOW members would really miss you if you left and died.
3. Others might think they did something and follow suit.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

Eh, 30 isn't any older than you make it. Let me tell you about a few things.

I know a moderately successful man (owner of a car dealership) that married a woman 10 years older than he is. He was 25, she was 35 (approximate ages when they got married).

A 30 year old woman with a pretty face is just as likely to catch my eye as an 18 year old with a pretty face. I'm currently 22.

Not all men would leave an older woman for a younger woman. When I told my wife, "Til death do us part," I meant it.

29 years old is probably a bit old to be dating the 18 to 25 age range those Men's magazines are targetted toward, anyway.

Most Biblical figures hit their prime in their 30's.

Alys Brangwin is probably the single most celebratedly attractive character in all of Phantasy Star. Her age is unknown, but she's no teenager.

Your age is not necessarily readily apparent when someone sees you. If someone is really that you may be getting old, then you don't want a relationship with him, anyway. After all, a guy that goes after younger women can only be looking for one thing, and we all know what that is.

[Sord]

On 2004-01-22 16:02, SpikeOtacon wrote:
3. Others might think they did something and follow suit.

Usually, that's the biggie. All men don't think like that either. Nothing against them, but what about gay people. I doubt they look at girls like that, otherwise they would be bi. Whichs brings up a possible anwser as to why some girls tend to really like gay guys. Anyways, point is, everyone thinks about something sexual, long as they aren't doin anything physical, it really don't matter. You can't stop the flow of chemicals in the brain. Why do you think people have fetiches. I've seen shows where one girl had a sexual obssesion with baloons, in other words a balooner. It's just something in the brain. Whenever she heard a baloon pop, she always got turned on. You also have to realize it's not just the genes or our fault. It's more the media then anything. If you where raised in a gay community, you would think it odd to love a girl, but if your raised in a straight (i hate the referance) community, you think that going out with guys would be weird. It all depends on what has surrounded you through your life, and most of that is media. Don't blame us, blame the genes and the media.

[Esoteric]

It sounds to me like this magazine you speak of is only focusing on the sexual aspect of women.

Well sure, men might be more typically attracted to younger woman. The reasons being:

~The younger women have an innocent appeal to them.

~The majority of younger ones are usually so caught up with trying to appear attractive that they will wear provocative clothing on a regular basis.

~They usually don't have kids or husbands.

~Developmentally they usually have less flaws.

Now think of it this way. There is not one female who stays "young" forever. Growing older means changes but it does not mean there is nothing to enjoy or live for.

In my opinion 29 or 30 is not very old. I can't exactly relate to it being only 18 but I do look forward to growing older.

You can't really expect younger men to be only attracted to "older" women. If you wanted.. say, 18-20 year old men to be all over you. Then you would be negating the fact that you view youth as more appealing also. So if you don't, then what is there to worry about? Men around your age are more likely to be in meaningful relationships with women in their age range.

Age and growing older is a process we all must go through. My humble advice would be to embrace that and try not to worry. Life doesn't always get worse, try not to live in that state of mind or the negative thinking will manifest itself. Instead, try to realize there will be ups and downs in your life, and that you should only focus on ways that you could improve it.. not end it..

[The_Pea_Guy]

Being 30 in society is old? WTF?

What's the world coming to?

[Ness]

I probably shouldn't comment on this but I will.

Not all men are pedophiles; I know several men that are happily married to (and sexually active wtih) their wives.

I look at high schools girls, but I'm only 16 so I have a reason, but I also like to gawk at a a waitress every now and then (which are usually in their late teens to early twenties).

[ABDUR101]

Seems pointless and rude to lump everyone in one group, expecially the pedophile group.

I'm not going to argue that alot of guys are sick bastards, but "alot" doesn't equal "all". They stick out, but they're not the majority.

[Dime]

On 2004-01-22 16:52, Ness wrote:


Not all men are pedophiles; I know several men that are happily married to (and sexually active wtih) their wives.





Your parents don't count.


As for shim, it depends on the man, most of them probably WOULD take a 17-19 year old over an older gal, but there's always exceptions.

[Firocket1690]

All men are paedophiles, I hate them all.
*nods head in agreement*

I know some cases which are worse than others...
At ness' message board, we all mess around for fun, and they know it.

Just this weekend, a friend came by and saw me sitting in a lobby. We had a long talk about his life issues, me reformatting my comp (at the time), and then how I was his angel?
At first he was just another PSO friend, but now he's pissing me off.
I don't want to say 'fuck off' because I kinda feel sorry for him and how he feels about his life...
I think he really meant it.

The scary part is he's 26, I'm 15, and he wants to seriously go out with me ...

[Sord]

On 2004-01-22 17:15, Firocket1690 wrote:

All men are paedophiles, I hate them all.
*nods head in agreement*

I know some cases which are worse than others...
At ness' message board, we all mess around for fun, and they know it.

Just this weekend, a friend came by and saw me sitting in a lobby. We had a long talk about his life issues, me reformatting my comp (at the time), and then how I was his angel?
At first he was just another PSO friend, but now he's pissing me off.
I don't want to say 'fuck off' because I kinda feel sorry for him and how he feels about his life...
I think he really meant it.

The scary part is he's 26, I'm 15, and he wants to seriously go out with me ...


One guy out of over a billion. If girls are going to say that we are all pedophiles (sp?) then i'm going with all girls stretch the truth for their own ends.

[Shimarisu]

It wasn't just the stupid joke about Geri Halliwell that pissed me off. It was the fact they called her past it and ancient.

I know this magazine is a despicable piece of tripe, which parodies men's sensibilites and attitudes in an admittedly, tongue-in-cheek fashion. However the writers make it clear they are doing this to lampoon the ACTUAL feelings of men. They show working class men up to be stupid, alcoholic, council estate garbage. They make fun of such trash, but in making a joke like that, they show it to be a sad piece of actual life. I don't sit well with people saying '29, 30 is not very old', that is you skirting around the issure because look, you just said it was old, not very old, but you DID ACTUALLY SAY THERE it was old.

I've felt like this since I went to Japan. I don't think all men are like this, but over 90% certainly are. In Japan it's not illegal to sell child porn as long as no real people are exploited. So of course, 90% of doujinshi manga has pictures of naked underage girls performing disgusting acts. It's not the Japanese who are a peadophile nation, it's just that the real attitudes of men are allowed to shine there, so they do. And I'm not talking about manga where little girls do these acts, I mean high school girls. I don't object to it on a moral level, because many high school girls are sluts who do this by choice. However I'm sick of men making me feel old by saying shit like only girls under 20 are viable. And if a 29 year old woman is too OLD for a 25 year old man, WHY? It's OK for MEN to like somebody 4 years younger. Why not the other way round? I'm sick of looking in the marriages section of papers and seeing that in 80% of couples, the man is 2-5 years older. It makes me feel old and worthless. I still want to be young. I mourn my youth with despair and terror of each encroaching day taking me away from it and closer to death. Every day, no every minute I am acutely aware that I'm dying.

News to the 18 year olds, you are going to get the shock of your life, because 10 years is not a long time, and once you are out of school time flies. You are going to be in this same situation as me, thinking "Yesterday I was young, where the HELL did the time go?" Youth is so fleeting, and a woman under 30 is still young. We live longer with each generation, and yet the perception of what is beautiful creeps closer to childhood every day. If you watch old movies, see how all the women are over 30? When I was a child all the pop stars were at least 20. Madonna for example, was my age at the height of her popularity. Now most are teenagers, and many not out of school. What the HELL is going on with society?

Now the way it goes is this. If a woman over 30 wants to still be seen as attractive, she has to be a whore. If the likes of the Sex and the City stars were under 30, the show would not be about fucking city trash. So now I'm no longer attractive (and I am, I look 20) I am only allowed to date balding older men? Fuck that, I want to date men who are still youthful, like I try to be. Of course this is hypothetical, I am with somebody. But the somebody I am with is giving in to age and that angers me. Everyone I know is turning into lazy, fat, 20-30 somethings with beer guts and zero drive. I hate it, and I find it repulsive. I'm going to fight death and aging with claws out and teeth bared. WHY is everybody I know giving up so goddamn early?

- Shimarisu

[Uncle_bob]

That's like Uncle saying "All women are dirty whining lying bitches" and then saying all women look at yaoi/gay porn, lie, and gossip constantly.

Come on, you can do better than this. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Shimarisu]

Oh and, this magazine is not aimed at teenagers. Going on the jokes in it, the 80s reminicense, etc etc it's aimed mostly at people over 25. And my boyfriend frequents a message board of older gamers, who drool over young girls like Tatu all the freaking time. I want to kill them all. If you thought that mmost men MY age had grown out of the fawning over young girls stage, you are VERY sadly mistaken. It's not the 18 year olds saying Geri is past it, it's men HER AGE. I don't hang out with kids, in fact kids are more likely to fancy older women - WTF? I see kylie seen as a sex goddess by younger people in uni. Once they are out of uni and feeling the pinch of encroaching middle age, all they want is a little girl to make them feel younger. It's pathetic, and MANY of the men on this forum will turn out the same. And in doing so they make the women their age feel worthless and old.

- Shimarisu

[Sord]

Okay, I am totally confused. Let me get this straight, you hate:

Men magazine writers
Men who marry younger women (even if it's for love and not sexual attraction)
Japanese something or another artists (don't they usually have them with monsters though? otherwise they would be given a smaller adiunce because of rating issues)
This is a possibility, your boyfriend? (or is he younger than you?)

Either way, i'm just confused. I don't normally fall romantically for sexually attractive girls. Some of them look like geeks. One had a high ponytale with this pale blonde, thin hair, and very large round glasses. Another was a red head that had freckles all over. My current crush is an italian girl, same age/grade as me. She's not beautiful, but she ain't ugly either. She very funny and smart as far as common sense, unlike me. I'm sometimes stuck in the high intelligence level to think about something common sense sometimes. The only thing all my crushes had in common was that they're a head smaller than me, but all of them are. So really you could say i'm a head taller then all the girls. Anyways, i don't mind you calling men pedophiles, just don't group all of us, be more specific.

As for Japan, their more diciplined, that's why they are so much more relax on porn. Although if it doesn't stop, than Japan's population is going to dwindle. People no longer prefer to have kids. It's not even against the law to have sex behind your wife's/husband's back, as long as you pay with money, not love. But even then, most people don't like their loved ones anyways. A good deal are arranged mariages. And the ones that aren't arranged prefer to stay single and have only sexual relationships. Less stress then romantic ones.

[Shimarisu]

On 2004-01-22 17:49, Uncle_bob wrote:
That's like Uncle saying "All women are dirty whining lying bitches" and then saying all women look at yaoi/gay porn, lie, and gossip constantly.

Come on, you can do better than this. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif





On 2004-01-22 17:49, Uncle_bob wrote:
That's like Uncle saying "All women are dirty whining lying bitches" and then saying all women look at yaoi/gay porn, lie, and gossip constantly.

Come on, you can do better than this. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



You would be mostly right on the first observation, not so right on the second (most women are as homophobic as men tend to be) and mostly right on the third.

Women are bitchy and gossipy.
Men are shallow and judge women on appearance.

This is true of 90% of society.

And don't call ME wacko, you ranting, forthright republican.

- Shimarisu

[SpikeOtacon]

For the record Shim, I hate T.A.T.u.

[Uncle_bob]

On 2004-01-22 18:07, Shimarisu wrote:


On 2004-01-22 17:49, Uncle_bob wrote:
That's like Uncle saying "All women are dirty whining lying bitches" and then saying all women look at yaoi/gay porn, lie, and gossip constantly.

Come on, you can do better than this. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif





On 2004-01-22 17:49, Uncle_bob wrote:
That's like Uncle saying "All women are dirty whining lying bitches" and then saying all women look at yaoi/gay porn, lie, and gossip constantly.

Come on, you can do better than this. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



You would be mostly right on the first observation, not so right on the second (most women are as homophobic as men tend to be) and mostly right on the third.

Women are bitchy and gossipy.
Men are shallow and judge women on appearance.

This is true of 90% of society.

And don't call ME wacko, you ranting, forthright republican.

- Shimarisu



Never called you wacko, fuzzy. ;o Those words hurt, ow. Uncle is gonna have to go get mommy to kiss them and make it all feel better. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

(PMS and wine again?)

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[Firocket1690]

On 2004-01-22 17:47, Shimarisu wrote:
So now I'm no longer attractive (and I am, I look 20)


Opinions ?
I see no proof. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Allos]

This is incredibly wrong. We're not all pedophiles. I bet you that about 7% are at most.

[Shimarisu]

My boyfriend is three years younger than me. He does not however, act it. He looks and acts at least 30 and everybody says so. I don't personally care, except for the fact that if I had 5 years of youth left I would be estatic, and not waste it like that (putting on weight, not going out socialising - he says he is too old now).

He's always looked a lot older than he is. When I met him I thought he was about 23 (I was 20).
But I wasn't looking for an older man, like most women do. I never even understood that. I am not a fawning little golddigger and nobody owns me. I supported him through his schooling at the time, it cost me THOUSANDS, and people HATED me for it. I got a lot of flak from people because no - it's not OK for a woman to be with a younger man. Just the other way round. He was 17 when I met him, I was 20 and all my friends made fun of me for it.

I do not understand society, at all.

- Shimarisu

[Shimarisu]

Sorry uncle, I got a stupid auto refresh, and copied and pasted your post into notepad, where your emoticon said 'wacko' instead of appearing.

Blame the site hosters.

- Shimarisu

[badbitz]

On 2004-01-22 17:49, Uncle_bob wrote:
That's like Uncle saying "All women are dirty whining lying bitches" and then saying all women look at yaoi/gay porn, lie, and gossip constantly.

Come on, you can do better than this. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



where do you get your bases, Uncle? Thats certainly not true.
This isn't FKL, dude.

[Uncle_bob]

On 2004-01-22 18:27, badbitz wrote:


On 2004-01-22 17:49, Uncle_bob wrote:
That's like Uncle saying "All women are dirty whining lying bitches" and then saying all women look at yaoi/gay porn, lie, and gossip constantly.

Come on, you can do better than this. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



where do you get your bases, Uncle? Thats certainly not true.
This isn't FKL, dude.



Holy shit! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif Uncle never said it WAS TRUE. Yes, some women fit those catagories, some more so than others.

His point is that it would be stupid for him to make a topic saying that ALL women were like that.

[shifter]

On 2004-01-22 17:19, Sord wrote:
then i'm going with all girls stretch the truth for their own ends.


dude, where have u been, they all do that.
as for the above posts, id say a small group of men fit into that catigory(sp), most likely ones who cant get dates with anyone there own age. as for suicide, dont. not over some stupid magazine article that has no real relevance in life. if the magazine bothers u that much, dont ever read it again, pure and simple. if i read everthing that gegraded me, i would. but since i dont, i wont. it be a lot better for u to just ignore that magazine and any others that offend u and better for others i u lived.

[Ness]

On 2004-01-22 17:15, Firocket1690 wrote:

All men are paedophiles, I hate them all.
*nods head in agreement*

I know some cases which are worse than others...
At ness' message board, we all mess around for fun, and they know it.

Just this weekend, a friend came by and saw me sitting in a lobby. We had a long talk about his life issues, me reformatting my comp (at the time), and then how I was his angel?
At first he was just another PSO friend, but now he's pissing me off.
I don't want to say 'fuck off' because I kinda feel sorry for him and how he feels about his life...
I think he really meant it.

The scary part is he's 26, I'm 15, and he wants to seriously go out with me ...



What makes it even worse it the fact that he's probably on the other side of the nation.

[Firocket1690]

@ Shifter
Shim was probably annoyed because she found that magazine from her boyfriend... ?

[Skuda]

Most men suck big time. I myself being a man agree. Women are god gift to men, and anyone who would abuse a gift as preciouse as women should be shot. I'd like to do that personaly. 30 isn't old. 30 is experience and wisdom. Is most men your age would rather oogle over high school students, let them. They would be less than dirt. Very rarely will you see a sensative, caring, undertsanding man (usually butt-ugly sadly) but these ones usually feel the same way as you. Again, Most men suck, very few are the true golden apple.


PS: shimarisu, your vocabulary and wording is simply outstanding.

[KodiaX987]

FOREWORD: THOSE MOTHERFUCKING AUTO-REFRESH ADS PISS ME OFF. IF ANY GAMESPY ADMIN IS READING THIS, FIX IT OR ELSE BUSH GETS RE-ELECTED. YOUR FUCKING CALL!



Back on subject. Here's the explanation: tweens. I paid a visit to my 6th grade English teacher not too long ago. I was surprised at the fact that nearly all the girls had bigger breasts than my older sister even when she's about to nurse her kid! I recall my own 6th grade - it was, what... 8 years ago?... - and I do not remember any single girl having even the slightest hint of puberty. My memory may be exaggerating but anyways, I am certain a lot has changed. A youngin wearing skimpy stuff is tempting the devil. No wonder pedos make their move!

[Skuda]

What's the big deal about breast size anyway? That's not what matters! Stupid pig men...(most anyway) ACK. Why do men have to be so stupid and insensetive. I'd love to be able to judge people and kill them if they are evil (bads out way the goods)



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[Sord]

On 2004-01-22 19:55, Scott_Kuda wrote:
What's the big deal about breast size anyway? That's not what matters! Stupid pig men...(most anyway)


dunno, most all girls i seem to like are pretty much flat

[Esoteric]

On 2004-01-22 17:47, Shimarisu wrote:
I don't sit well with people saying '29, 30 is not very old', that is you skirting around the issure because look, you just said it was old, not very old, but you DID ACTUALLY SAY THERE it was old.




I did? Ok, so when you say an infant is 3 months old or say that a kid is 6 years old you actually mean to say they are being acknowledged as old? No.

The way I phrased that must have thrown you off the subject at hand in some way. Even the 'very' part has nothing to do with me saying that the number itself has a relationship to any age they might be.

~Example: Six is not very old. -You see?
This was how it was intended. No, I did not say you were old in any way.

I swear to you that in no way do I view the age of 29 or 30 old. I have a brother that is 30, and I do not view him as an old adult at all. Shit, it is still hard for me to even think of him as an adult. He still gets carded for alcahol, etc.

Also, each moment we grow closer to death, worrying does absolutely nothing at all to stop it. The bigger problem is being able to ACCEPT that this is a fact and live with it in the best way possible.

[Sord]

On 2004-01-22 21:12, Esoteric wrote:
[quote]
On 2004-01-22 17:47, Shimarisu wrote:
I don't sit well with people saying '29, 30 is not very old', that is you skirting around the issure because look, you just said it was old, not very old, but you DID ACTUALLY SAY THERE it was old.



Drop the freakin age subject. For crying out loud, all age is is the amount of time you've been alive. Hell, where as young as an infant compared to how long the universe has existed, scientificly or as far as religion goes. Age is perception. Start correcting yourself and say "Look like a [insert description]" without the word age. Such as "Men like girls who look slutty and are young" Now that is what you need to say. Hell, i don't give a damn how old a girl is, if i like her, i like her.

[OriginalLacan]

The biological purpose set for man way back during the birth of humankind was to procreate as much as possible for the survival of the species. things such as large breasts and youth, have been regarded as a sign of fertility for millenia by a variety of cultures. (take a look at mayan or african fertility statues.)Now, with the world as stagnant and overpopulated as it is, this programming is no longer needed, but it exists regardless in both genders. (*ahem* Demi moore, andie mcDowell, etc.)

When a man sees a 18 year old walking around half naked, all the biological alarms go off signaling that this person shows the signs of being fertile and would yield a high chance of bearing a child. This happens with women too, (need I mention the classic half naked, sweaty, bicep bulging construction worker cliche? or maybe the whole package examining antics of many women?) though maybe not to the same extent as with men, probably due to the fact that many women's desire for an economically stable mate overides their biological urges for fertility.

All this being said, from a biological point of view, age really means nothing. It is all determined by physical appearance (I'm not talking about crap like marriage, but rather the biological urge to procreate.) I mean tell me, which is more appealing?
The vendictive 20year old, who has been a habitual drunk since 12?
Or the 40 year old who kept themself in shape, and ate right throughout her life,

The remark about halliwell was probably made due to the fact that many ex-celebrities have aged incredibly quickly due to the stress, drugs, alcohol they fall into dealing with the depression of being a has-been, which makes many 29year olds appear 70.

In closing, if you feel you're too old to attract people, the solution could be as simple as putting in a little work to make yourself look your best. And in general, to everyone out there bitching about how old they are, shut the hell up and be proud you've survived this long in this fucked up world.

[Reiya]

ill sleep with you http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif.
im only 17 hope that isnt a turn off,lol.

[kingmurp]

"Age is just an experience level." I once dated a girl 5 yrs younger than me, let me tell you how that was a mistake. Either way blame all those scantily clad girls on TV now. They aim to show that teenagers are sexy, and sexually active, hence why you can call most teenage girls sluts and get away with it.

[anwserman]

Stupid auto-refresh!

Anyway, about the comment with the men Shimasaru, it applies to females too, as well as men. Its called the inability to realize that they're getting older too. Men look at younger women (or so I assume) because they want to be that age again, and it happens a lot when an 80 year old man marries a 20 year old man - my ass that it is 'true love'. And the same situation applies to women, who might look at younger men.

And did you ever think that your boyfriend might look at the magazines, but disagree and ignore some of their comments? I don't particularly agree to a magazine 100% of the time, but at least I still continue reading it for the parts I do agree with and enjoy.

P.S. Women like gay men due to the fact that most gay men are nice, sensitive and caring - plus the fact there will probably be some similar interests thrown in there too.

[Scejntjynahl]

Have you met all men, have you? Or are you basing your comment on the ones you have met? If so, it is understanble, but, to put all "men" into that category is extreme generalization. Just as bad as saying all women care about is shopping and such. I agree there are many sick individuals out there, and will always be. To change that you will need to change centuries of double standards and "brain washing" of the roles of man and woman.

On a side note, most young women do not dress just to attract men, ok. They do it sometimes because they feel like it. And if men hit on them, think about the reasons behind it. Group mentality. If a guy is with a group of male friends and they whistle or make lewd comments to a beatiful (in their eyes) woman passing by, that guy will also whistle, just so he wont get alienated by his friends. This is just one tiny example of how we react to circumstances and outside influence. It is not the law, though.

[Dangerous55]

Blame whatever God you worship, men were made like that.

[Inu_Ranma]

"All generalizations are false, including this one."

I, personally, don't think that the problem is that all, or even most men are pedophiles. I think that the problem is that many (I don't know whether it's all or most. I haven't met all or most men. It's definitely most men I've met, though) men will sleep with anything that looks like it may have, may currently, or may someday have female primary or secondary sexual organs. I don't know if the inverse is true for as many women, but it's definitely true for some. Personally, I think it's completely unfair to stereotype anybody. To stereotype even 90% of men as being pedophiles or dirty perverts is like saying '90 percent of people who are deaf are just too stupid to process audial language.'

See? It's not exactly fair, isn't it. I'd personally be a lot less offended if, instead of pulling statistics out of any given crevice, no offense, you'd say something to the end of 'most men who I've met are pedophiliac in nature,' or something of the sort. Otherwise, you're every bit as bad as the people who still believe in 'white pride,' whatever that's worth, or believe that almost all Moslems follow Jihad and should be exterminated, or believe that all Americans are warlike bastards. Just have a bit of consideration for reality before you say something crass. I'm certain, by your words, that you're angry, and I can definitely see why, but it's unfair to men if you even stereotype most of them as being so base. You know that I tend to agree with you, and like you as a person, but such a statement, as hurtful as it is, is not something I can stand to see without at least attempting to refute it with my own words.

-Inu

[Reiya]

On 2004-01-23 15:11, Inu_Ranma wrote:
"All generalizations are false, including this one."

I, personally, don't think that the problem is that all, or even most men are pedophiles. I think that the problem is that many (I don't know whether it's all or most. I haven't met all or most men. It's definitely most men I've met, though) men will sleep with anything that looks like it may have, may currently, or may someday have female primary or secondary sexual organs. I don't know if the inverse is true for as many women, but it's definitely true for some. Personally, I think it's completely unfair to stereotype anybody. To stereotype even 90% of men as being pedophiles or dirty perverts is like saying '90 percent of people who are deaf are just too stupid to process audial language.'

See? It's not exactly fair, isn't it. I'd personally be a lot less offended if, instead of pulling statistics out of any given crevice, no offense, you'd say something to the end of 'most men who I've met are pedophiliac in nature,' or something of the sort. Otherwise, you're every bit as bad as the people who still believe in 'white pride,' whatever that's worth, or believe that almost all Moslems follow Jihad and should be exterminated, or believe that all Americans are warlike bastards. Just have a bit of consideration for reality before you say something crass. I'm certain, by your words, that you're angry, and I can definitely see why, but it's unfair to men if you even stereotype most of them as being so base. You know that I tend to agree with you, and like you as a person, but such a statement, as hurtful as it is, is not something I can stand to see without at least attempting to refute it with my own words.

-Inu




say what? exterminated? O_o?

[undevil]

On 2004-01-22 15:40, Shimarisu wrote:
All men would fuck over somebody in their 20s for somebody younger given half the chance. All men secretly look at young girls still in high school. All men think that women past TWENTY FIVE are past it. All men abuse themselves over pictures of Tatu - underage girls. All men make me feel like I'm a fucking grandmother.

But this takes the cake. From one of my boyfriend's magazines.

SOW - Sexy Older Woman. An older woman you would not throw out of bed, eg. Gerri Halliwell.

Geri Halliwell is 29. My age. So now I am officially old. Yes I know the piece of writing was a joke, but people only make jokes like this to take the piss out of themselves, because it's secretly the horrible truth.

I'm going to kill myself. I honestly do not think I will reach 30. I said it 15 years ago and was told I would change my mind, but I did not, it only got worse.

- Shimarisu



Stop being a sexist and get over it. Not all guys are perverts. Discriminating against a whole race, sex, or religion is called being an idiot. You basically proved your ignorance in that post. Good job.

[Dangerous55]

On 2004-01-23 16:00, undevil wrote:


Discriminating against a whole race, sex, or religion is called being an idiot.




Except when its against white men, then it is ok.

[Shimarisu]

Stop being a sexist and get over it. Not all guys are perverts. Discriminating against a whole race, sex, or religion is called being an idiot. You basically proved your ignorance in that post. Good job.



Fuck you.

- Shimarisu (here is more ignorance for you)

[Solstis]

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Stop being a sexist and get over it. Not all guys are perverts. Discriminating against a whole race, sex, or religion is called being an idiot. You basically proved your ignorance in that post. Good job.



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Fuck you.

- Shimarisu (here is more ignorance for you)


Yes, and I'm sure personally attacking Shimarisu is going to solve all the problems in the world. I'm sensing a wee bit too much agnst in these posts.

[Sord]

On 2004-01-23 17:05, Dangerous55 wrote:


On 2004-01-23 16:00, undevil wrote:


Discriminating against a whole race, sex, or religion is called being an idiot.




Except when its against white men, then it is ok.


That's mainly because we typically ignore it. I'm not racist or anything, but it's the black girls i see that are wearin hardly anything and dances to thoes annoying rap songs.

[anwserman]

Well, Shimasaru is ranting, she has the ability to rant and I feel that she should rant (even though I don't agree with what she says).

Now no harassing each other now, OK?



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[PaleKid15]

Shimarisu-well, the liking younger women thing is true. "You always want what you can't have". But you are not old. Jennifer Garner (Star of Alias) is 30 years old, and she was chosen as sexiest woman of the year in 2003. Age should not really be something you are concerned about. Who cares if you are 29? You can still be hot. And truth be told, that's what guys really care about. When a guy asks you out or something, they usually do it based on looks. Then they learn about your personality and decide if they want a commitment or try for sex and leave. With some exceptions of course. These words of advice come from A 15 year old guy, which it has been scientifically proven that teenage males are the horniest creatures on the planet. So I know what I am talking about.

BTW- "don't commit suicide!" and -insert random uplifting statement here-

[Solstis]

That's mainly because we typically ignore it. I'm not racist or anything, but it's the black girls i see that are wearin hardly anything and dances to thoes annoying rap songs.


Then again, you watch COPS (good stuff) and see white prostitutes/druggies being busted. If there were more white rappers, then it would be the same thing. And Eminem (Enimen?) ain't got no hos, yo!

[Shimarisu]

On 2004-01-23 15:11, Inu_Ranma wrote:
"All generalizations are false, including this one."

I, personally, don't think that the problem is that all, or even most men are pedophiles. I think that the problem is that many (I don't know whether it's all or most. I haven't met all or most men. It's definitely most men I've met, though) men will sleep with anything that looks like it may have, may currently, or may someday have female primary or secondary sexual organs. I don't know if the inverse is true for as many women, but it's definitely true for some. Personally, I think it's completely unfair to stereotype anybody. To stereotype even 90% of men as being pedophiles or dirty perverts is like saying '90 percent of people who are deaf are just too stupid to process audial language.'

See? It's not exactly fair, isn't it. I'd personally be a lot less offended if, instead of pulling statistics out of any given crevice, no offense, you'd say something to the end of 'most men who I've met are pedophiliac in nature,' or something of the sort. Otherwise, you're every bit as bad as the people who still believe in 'white pride,' whatever that's worth, or believe that almost all Moslems follow Jihad and should be exterminated, or believe that all Americans are warlike bastards. Just have a bit of consideration for reality before you say something crass. I'm certain, by your words, that you're angry, and I can definitely see why, but it's unfair to men if you even stereotype most of them as being so base. You know that I tend to agree with you, and like you as a person, but such a statement, as hurtful as it is, is not something I can stand to see without at least attempting to refute it with my own words.

-Inu




It was a rant, but nobody saw past the 'ALL' thing, because many on here were too stupid to see it was a rant and that I am suicidal about my age, and have been for 6 months now. I feel decrepit and worthless. The past 10 years have gone in a heartbeat, the rest of my life will too. It's all hopeless. I don't mean all, there are men with fetishes for older women, that is WELL documented. But I do mean most. Who was it that said "The true reason that gentlemen prefer blondes is that most men secretely desire to violate something appearing young and innocent?" It's very true, and the media caters to it. The media will ALWAYS cater to the base desires that make me sick, which is why the media, to heteresexuals and homosexuals alike, is telling everyone to sleep around, that's OK. It's the media doing this that's making me feel worthless.

"Peadophile" is an exaggeration, but most men would give their eye-teeth to sleep with an attractive 18 year old girl, no matter WHAT their age. And most men given the choice, would choose an 18 year old girlfriend over one approaching 30, unless the 30 year old was EXTREMELY youthful and pretty. It all boils down to the shallowness of society, and what makes me angry and bitter is that the people I know of my peer group look OLD. WHY IS NATURE AGEING US THIS EARLY? It is frightening and terrible. If there is a god, I hate god for this. Because all we are are baby machines, and even though we are only one third through life, the ability to have healthy babies dwindles, so our looks do too to put men off.
THAT TOTALLY DEVALUES OUR WORTH AS THINKING BEINGS - NATURE CAN GO FUCK ITSELF. Men however, can keep their good looks into their 40s if they look after themselves. THAT'S A CROCK OF SHIT. I hate god, hate my decrepit body, hate death and hate the media for saying 29 year olds are past it - therefore showing itself up as an outlet for the feelings of the MAJORITY of society. But who can blame them? Blame nature, god whatever. We are just decaying lumps of flesh, here with zero purpose. Why should we get fair treatment. The existense of life itself is pathos, so the process is pathos, pathos, pathos all the way.

When my parents die, I just know I'll be at the funeral screaming at god and calling him a bastard. Even though my parents beat me and turned a blind eye to my cousin sexually abusing my sister - I'll probably just see their deaths as another reminder if my own, however. THe whole 'will never see them again' is a crock of shit and my blood boils with anger and despair. None of the under 20s here KNOW what it is like to feel like your time is rapidly running out. I don't expect sympathy from any of them. Our lives are pathetically short, and any 30+ year old can tell you this.

I don't look old yet, but I know my time is running out. When it runs out, I WILL get plastic surgery. Because I believe in fighting this sort of crap.

And most deaf people ARE too stupid to process if you like, audial language via lip reading. But not because they can't do it, because the stupidity inherant in humanity that makes minority groups huddle together and make life even HARDER for themselves, comes to the fore. People in a minority don't want to speak to, or mix with the majority. Another generalisation, but true of most of them. I know this because I am 70% deaf, and was brought up in youth groups for the deaf. They were another reason for me to hate most of society.

When it comes down to it, generalisations ARE true, because MOST HUMAN BEINGS ARE STUPID.

"Most members of PSOW are too stupid to see past a rant and the despair of another poster, and will instead trash talk them." - there, another generalisation that would appear to be a fact.

- Shimarisu

[Solstis]

You almost made me cry.

Um... I cannot possibly think of a positive reaction to this. I'm afraid that reading any more of these posts would drag me back into depression... and depression sucks.

[Sord]

sounds like your a fan of one of my favorite philosophical quotes, "Life is a long death," which i generally agree with. As for the last line of your last big post, the word "appear" is key there. You've been through shit, so have I. Only diffrence is your constatnly sulking in it while i take a stand now and then.

If you just wanted to rant about your aging, just say it straight out. "I hate aging!" Anyways, i don't have a real problem with your view, as i know where they're coming from. I'm totally on your side with the media. Hell, if the media where gone and someone lived in a comunity where everyone was ugly, or even average, chances are we'de like people more based on personalities then are looks. I ain't a looker my self either. Born with beer belly i can't get rid of due to genes and slight jello legs. I'm not admired by a lot of girls, that's for sure. Though one thing i would find intresting is a picture of you. I mean, we really don't know what you look like. Hell, you might be hot and not realize it. Though i don't really care much for a girl that's only hot and has no inteligence and humorous personality. Eh well, guess i'll end this thing here. Kinda abrupt, but what the heck.

[Shimarisu]

Here's another generalisation:

"Most people who feel themselves to be individual and beyond the trappings inherant to their culture, are too stupid NOT to take offense at a generalisation which ties them TO the culture, when instead they should be proud they escaped it. In their righteous fury they themselves become part of the generalisation. If you don't believe in a certain negative aspect of society, you do not have to defend it and make yourself look part of it."

- Shimarisu

[Sord]

On 2004-01-23 18:03, Shimarisu wrote:
Here's another generalisation:

"Most people who feel themselves to be individual and beyond the trappings inherant to their culture, are too stupid NOT to take offense at a generalisation which ties them TO the culture, when instead they should be proud they escaped it. In their righteous fury they themselves become part of the generalisation. If you don't believe in a certain negative aspect of society, you do not have to defend it and make yourself look part of it."

- Shimarisu


not to be a smart ass or anything, but where'de you get that. I like to read philosophy. Intresting stuff if you ask me. Better than reading a religious book, philosophy hidden under a bunch of words, that's my view on it.

[DOG21313]

I dont want to come out mean and cruel, but i know i am probably gonna.

DONT look at age, DONT pay attention to the fact that your going to die. Its a fact that your going to have to live with. All humans will eventually die. My Social studies teacher says this quote all the time:

There are two things that are going to happen to you in this life.
1. Your going to pay taxes
2. Your going to die.


Simple as that. The secret is, if you waste your time worrying about the fact that you are, your not going to change it, your going to waste your time depressing yourself and when you finally stop thinking about death, all your chances to have fun will have passed.

Think of it this way: You say your already 1/3 through your life? How do you know? Your life can be finished in an instant, car accident, murder, anything. But if you dont have fun with life up to that point, you will have made nothing of your life. You will have wasted it worrying about the FACT that you WILL die. Its not changable in this day and age.

On the other hand, you can have fun! You can run around not CARING what people think, and have fun. Then, when you DO die, you'll have made something of your life, you will have memories that are good. If you do this, in your old age, you can remember what you once did, how much fun you once had, instead of thinking about death, knowing that it is right around the corner.

Im truly sorry if that came out rude, i did not want it to.

[Sord]

Your teachers wrong. If you overthrow your government and live without a ruler, no taxes. Chances are you'll die quiker though.

[DOG21313]

On 2004-01-23 18:28, Sord wrote:
Your teachers wrong. If you overthrow your government and live without a ruler, no taxes. Chances are you'll die quiker though.



Heh, i never exactly agreed with him about the tax part, cause you could live in a tribe on an island or something... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Sord]

On 2004-01-23 18:29, DOG21313 wrote:


On 2004-01-23 18:28, Sord wrote:
Your teachers wrong. If you overthrow your government and live without a ruler, no taxes. Chances are you'll die quiker though.



Heh, i never exactly agreed with him about the tax part, cause you could live in a tribe on an island or something... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


Puerto Rico is owned by the U.S., but it doesn't pay U.S. taxes because it's not a state, even though they could become one if they wanted. But they don't, who the hell would want to pay more taxes?

EDIT: i put taxis harharhrmph



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[KodiaX987]

I feel like an asshole today so I think I'll start a fire:

"Life is a bitch and then you get to marry one."

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Nai_Calus]

No, no. It's

"Life is a bitch, then you marry one, then you give birth to one, and then you die."

That being said, I agree with Shim. We do suck. I dunno about being a pedophile, unless liking yaoi where the uke appears to be in his early to mid teens counts. O_o; But only if he's actually over 18. If he's under, eww.

I prefer older guys/girls IRL. Less likely to be some bubbly airhead fucktard.

I hate bubbly airhead fucktards.

[Solstis]

That being said, I agree with Shim. We do suck. I dunno about being a pedophile, unless liking yaoi where the uke appears to be in his early to mid teens counts. O_o; But only if he's actually over 18. If he's under, eww.


How would you tell if he was or not?

[geewj]

Keep the personal flames out of the thread. If I see any more flaming then this is getting locked.

[Arislan]

My quick 2 cents...
I agree with Shim that it's generally the media's fault that this type of thing is becoming more common (younger girls being sex objects)..

I believe such for the reasons that OriginalLacan already iterated earlier (somewhere on Page 3 I believe).

And I happen to take the same stance as Ian-Kun on the subject of bubbly airhead fucktards. Rather more colorful a set of words than I would have used, but it works. After having dated a BAF for 2 years, I can feel fully qualified to state that they are definitely not my type, and therefor younger girls are not my type either. I'd much prefer a stable mid/late 20's girl than some teeny-bopper. Although other male's mileage may vary.

/Edit "se objects"? Oops.

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[Solstis]

Keep the personal flames out of the thread. If I see any more flaming then this is getting locked.


Huh? Me?

[JedahNSonans]

Yeah. Quit telling the truth already.

[geewj]

Just in general

[Inu_Ranma]

A few side notes:

1: The use of the word 'most' makes a statement not a generalization. A generalization is something which overcategorizes, to explain it badly. That means using something like the words 'all,' 'none,' or statistics which have no bearing on reality.

2: I didn't attack you, remember, Shim? Believe it or not, I have some inkling of what you are feeling, but that's too personal for me to post on such a forum. I just don't like it when I'm grouped into something which is being attacked for no good reason.

3: Thanks for halting the generalizations. The things which you said were generalizations weren't (sorry) but were, instead, perfectly valid opinion-based statements. Those, I like. ^_^

4: Suicide is a hard thing, that being why I didn't address it before. I don't think I could say anything useful on the subject that you'd heed. I could say don't. I could say it's useless and that you must have something better to do than to die, or something great to live for, but it wouldn't matter. If you want to go through with something, and I mean REALLY want to, there's nothing that anybody can do to stop you. I, for one, would miss your 'presence,' as you're generally a refreshing 'voice' in this forum.

[fyrewyre]

On 2004-01-22 15:40, Shimarisu wrote:
All men would fuck over somebody in their 20s for somebody younger given half the chance. All men secretly look at young girls still in high school. All men think that women past TWENTY FIVE are past it. All men abuse themselves over pictures of Tatu - underage girls. All men make me feel like I'm a fucking grandmother.

But this takes the cake. From one of my boyfriend's magazines.

SOW - Sexy Older Woman. An older woman you would not throw out of bed, eg. Gerri Halliwell.

Geri Halliwell is 29. My age. So now I am officially old. Yes I know the piece of writing was a joke, but people only make jokes like this to take the piss out of themselves, because it's secretly the horrible truth.

I'm going to kill myself. I honestly do not think I will reach 30. I said it 15 years ago and was told I would change my mind, but I did not, it only got worse.

- Shimarisu



So im like the only guy that dates older women, huh?

[hollowtip]

Alright another men bashing thread, what's new, this shit is so funny to me.

Way to clump every single guy into one category, great job. Just sounds like you hang around losers who have nothing better to do.

Don't get me wrong I understand where you are coming from but please rethink your stance on this subject. Most female seniors in High School have reached their prime physical maturity, where breasts are at their firmest, curves at their sharpest, and skin at their softest (I could understand if you were arguing about underclassmen, but this is not the case) so of course men are going to naturally gravitate toward these types of girls, even the oldest of the old (whether they express it or not). I don't necessarily see anything completely wrong with this unless they act upon their thoughts. We all have a little barbarism in us, it's just that some people surpress it to fit into society, others don't. No man or woman on earth is free of the ID portion of their brain, and that's the truth whether you like it or not.

I'm 20, and have a beautiful high school girlfriend that is 17. Yeah that's right, HIGH SCHOOL, and I'm a sophomore in college, but the main reason I fell in love with her is because of her mental maturity. Age has no basis on how "old" someone is, its how you approach life and how you present yourself to the world that really determines your age.






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[Shimarisu]

This shit is so funny to you, and yet you admit to it?

Come back in 10 years time, when you can honestly say you still find people your own age attractive, and then maybe I'll take you seriously. If you are the type that laughs at a joke your peer made, regarding a 29 year old star being "past it", then fuck you. You did not know the intensity of the original joke.

Until then, you are just another young guy who does not feature in my rant, at all. You can have no sympathy and no understanding of WHY I'm so angry.

By the way, I'll live 5 years longer than you, by averages. The logical thing should be for men to fancy women five years OLDER. No?

- Shimarisu

[Shimarisu]

Oh, and to all the knee jerk reactionists who jump on this thread with "Haha another woman belittling men, how funneee" - some words for you.

Generally speaking:

I hate men.
I hate women.
I hate EVERYBODY. And the hatred (note correct usage of verb) is well deserved.

I hate how women bitch about people behind their backs, and are duplicitious. I hate how men judge women on appearances.

BTW, a good 80% of women I speak to think muscular men are well, yuck. Keep your anatomy on the INSIDE of your body, thanks. The only people who fall for that crap are the men who buy the muscle building programs from the "YOU CAN BE X SIZE IN 16 DAYS" adverts.
That's why muscular men have the stereotype of being stupid. Because to fall for an advert that stated that a sweaty, close shaven (ie bald) guy with what looks like sides of ham swelling out of his arms, enhanced by flattering bulging veins was ATTRACTIVE, takes questionable intelligence.

- Shimarisu

[Arislan]

Do note though, that the guy was ranting about your lumping everyone into one category. He obviously didn't read the whole thread (who has the patience for that? Don't answer that, it's rhetorical) and posted out of his ass. When he's able to come back with a logical argument, taking in all the facts presented, then he may have a point to make, instead of a knee-jerk.

[swan_s0ng]

humans always make such a big deal over reproduction, and things relating to that basic need. i never see any posts about going to the toilet or eating food or sleeping or respiring etc. who cares about anyones level of physical attraction to you, its something so very trivial. as long as you have some form of outlet for the need to reproduce (you dont even need a partner for that anymore), then when all is said and done it doesnt matter.

besides shim, even if guys your age stayed liking you for a decade more - theres still going to come a point where you are no longer an attractive female, i hardly think 10 years (or a pathetic 120 months) makes any real significant difference on the grand scale of things.

[Saladwood]

On 2004-01-25 03:39, Shimarisu wrote:
Keep your anatomy on the INSIDE of your body, thanks. The only people who fall for that crap are the men who buy the muscle building programs from the "YOU CAN BE X SIZE IN 16 DAYS" adverts.




Keep your anatomy on the INSIDE of your body, thanks. The only people who fall for that crap are the women who buy the breast enhancing programs from the "YOU CAN BE 36DD SIZE IN 16 DAYS" adverts.

[Skuda]

No offense to anyone, but I think this planet would be a heck of alot better without homosapiens. for no reason, I have an urge to kill everylast one of us. I wish killing weren't illegal, I go around killing all those sick perverts and such and feel good about it. *pats my trust katana at my side*

[Saladwood]

That would make you even sicker than some of the perverts

[Skuda]

true, but some people deserve to die. I hope for judgemant day or something... what fun!

[Sord]

On 2004-01-25 10:46, Scott_Kuda wrote:
No offense to anyone, but I think this planet would be a heck of alot better without homosapiens. for no reason, I have an urge to kill everylast one of us. I wish killing weren't illegal, I go around killing all those sick perverts and such and feel good about it. *pats my trust katana at my side*


if we didn't exist, i think our world would have a lot less problems. Sure, forest fires could rage for weeks, months, maybe years because no animal is smart enough to end it. Volcanoe lava could flow everywhere, without any restraint. But that's like two things out of a million problems we've caused. Unfortunatly, Scott is right.

[ABDUR101]

Well we're here now, so the world will just have to deal with it. =]

Get back on topic please.

[LollipopLolita]

well, i don't know. not all muscly poeple are dumb and women do it too. i know dumb skinny people and i know smart muscly people. and if they choose to do it for themselves and want to look good (in their opinion) and want to be healthier and work on it and commit, more power to them. at least they're working on bettering themselves in some cases. and hey the muscle thing is attractive to some people. i mean there's slightly built, there's athleticly built and then there's built built or whatever damn range there is in the middle. but it's much better than being anorexic or bullimic or strapping on stilletos and ending up with feet and spine problems. i wouldn't generalize what men and women think, or their actions and hey it's their choice. who am i to judge. i do stupid shit too. so i can't really have any say or generalize or stereotype people or hate, or have the right to hate everyone or to want to kill people. or to not do it just because it's illegal but more because it's morally and ethically incorrect. wiping out humanity does nothing to solve the problem, and stereotyping only increases it. now if more people worked on being better people instead of complaining, that's a lot of oxygen saved.

and abdur i hate you.


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[Saladwood]

anyhowwwwwwwwwww, back on topic

women can be pedophiles too

[Skuda]

oquard enough as it sounds, yes they can.

[Black000Moon]

On 2004-01-23 17:40, Shimarisu wrote:

We are just decaying lumps of flesh, here with zero purpose. Why should we get fair treatment. The existense of life itself is pathos, so the process is pathos, pathos, pathos all the way.


"Most members of PSOW are too stupid to see past a rant and the despair of another poster, and will instead trash talk them." - there, another generalisation that would appear to be a fact.

- Shimarisu

True, and same with the blond part. I think people don't really care about age as long as they look good. And also some people might care about personality more than looks(not me though http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif ). Still 29 isn't old. To me old is 50... Most woman look good until 35-40 so you stil probably look good same with alot of other woman. But if you take drugs, drink etc then that will change.

[Daikarin]

I must be a weird guy, Arion. I have a tendency to fall in love with older women. And my distant cousin (=P) Neo Rei knows this a hell of a lot well.

Come on, let the others be. They will collect what they plant, don't get angry because they are screwing up their lives and try not to show it on others.

[erased phrase]

Cheer up.

EDIT: Uhm... Forget that sentence, things would be worse if you did what I suggested http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

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[hollowtip]

On 2004-01-25 04:02, Arislan wrote:
Do note though, that the guy was ranting about your lumping everyone into one category. He obviously didn't read the whole thread (who has the patience for that? Don't answer that, it's rhetorical) and posted out of his ass. When he's able to come back with a logical argument, taking in all the facts presented, then he may have a point to make, instead of a knee-jerk.



I read the first post, and just went off that.

Let me quote from the first post.




All men would fuck over somebody in their 20s for somebody younger given half the chance. All men secretly look at young girls still in high school. All men think that women past TWENTY FIVE are past it. All men abuse themselves over pictures of Tatu - underage girls. All men make me feel like I'm a fucking grandmother.



How many "all men" were in that post? How can any respectable human being look at this post and sit back and let her rant something so rediculous?

Im talking out of my ass huh? Please reread the original post to this thread and observe the choice of words she uses to vent.

A legal adult in California is 18, which means she's legal enough to live astranged from her family. Many 18 year olds do attend High School. Although I certainly frown upon reltionships with significant age differences, an adult is an adult, stop acting like a old hag, especially in your mid 20's. You're young even if you don't think so.



Most members of PSOW are too stupid to see past a rant and the despair of another poster, and will instead trash talk them.

When the "dispair" of another poster is aimed at attacking a large group of people because of flawed reasoning, of course many people will fire back with negativity.

I don't give a damn what "dispair" she's feeling even if she is having suicidal thoughts. Suck it up, and get some mental help. All this negative energy could be directed positively elsewhere.

You are an intelligent human being and have a great boyfriend who loves you (from the little I read), so please, this is a very trivial misconception that is holding you back.

[swan_s0ng]

You are an intelligent human being and have a great boyfriend who loves you (from the little I read), so please, this is a very trivial misconception that is holding you back.

Amen to that. A perfectly sound and logical post ; )

[Sord]

On 2004-01-25 14:19, New Ultimate wrote:
I must be a weird guy, Arion. I have a tendency to fall in love with older women. And my distant cousin (=P)

glad i'm not alone, i found out though that her mom was adopted by my grandpa and grandma, so she's not blood related. Then as she grew up, she became lesbian, and i guess I stopped seeing her less, thus she is distant. Still like her though, she's a punk.

[Arislan]

And hollowtip, please re-read the whole of the thread and note how the overall statement has changed, or at least the misconceptions have been changed.

Rather than editing and rewriting the entire first post, which would have been much more trouble than it was worth, and started new debates on differences between the two diatribes, she simply chose to further explain what she meant as the thread and conversation moved along.

And yes, when you post, or say anything, without taking as many available facts as you can into the conversation or debate, you are talking out of your ass. Do note that this makes my hippocritical, as I do the same on occasion, but that doesn't make it any less dangerous for a given stance to do.

(Not directed at hollowtip)
I don't buy the whole sex as a basic function of life bit at all. It's a cop-out for not having to take responsibility for your actions. You have a brain, you have reasoning skills, and you are able to see take both your natural attractions and your societally created conceptions, combine them, and use that bit of matter between your ears to come to a conclusion as to who you pursue.

So if that means that you naturally want a fertile female, and Society says a fertile female is young, budding, and wears nearly nothing, these factors will combine into an attraction towards young girls. Of course, you can then consider this reaction, decide whether it is appropriate, and make changes as necessary, assuming you are a thinking, logical being, and prefer not to be ruled by your emotions and instincts.

Note that in the Middle Ages, fat women were considered great wives and perfect for children, since if they were fat, they obviously had money and would be able to care for the family with the wealth that bedding such a woman would bring. Societies idea and image of the perfect sex object has changed over time, and will very likely continue to change as long as media and community comminication exists. Not that this current jaunt into pedophilia may not last a couple decades, but it will eventually begin to stray towards some other form of appeal.

/edit A few grammar errors fixed.


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[Daikarin]

On 2004-01-25 14:19, New Ultimate wrote:
I must be a weird guy, Arion. I have a tendency to fall in love with older women. And my distant cousin (=P)


F***, I didn't write only THAT! LOL http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Omni-Man]

I hope I'm not too late for this:

I see from your profile that youre a brit, shim, which makes you opinionated, volatile, intellectual, and whiny....

NOnonononono put that gun away, I'm kidding!

First things first. I am a 23 year old American male, I have an idea as to how you feel, I am HABITUALLY suicidal, and I do not agree with you at all.

It sounds like you are trying to resolve/rant about 2 seperate issues at hand here:

A. Your perception of what men seek in women.
B. Your renewed sense of impending mortality.

Many men prefer younger women (girls) AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIVES. This does not mean always. Some Men may also fantasize about shoes, pets, robots, their mothers, whatever; this does not mean they will act on these urges/fetishes. I'm sure there are some "kinks" that turn you on. On an unbalanced Dryer is a popular one according to a local poll I conducted http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
My point is Men AND Women need a sense of fantasy in their lives in order to truly LIVE. Perhaps you are angry at your BF because you see HIM as acting too old; maybe YOU want a newer, more energetic model. Maybe not. I suggest you respect others sense of fantasy AS LONG AS no serious physical injury results. The best way to fight age is not with make up, leather, plastic surgery, keggers or righteous indignation; It is only when we can maintain a sense of humor and wonder about our world that we can truly remain young.
This brings me to issue B. Maybe you've hit 30 and have to many "to-do-before-i-get-old-and-die" list left unchecked. Maybe old mr. grim is playing the joke he plays on all women by increasing their personal gravtational field. I can tell you that unless you've lived a very hard life on the streets (and/or your back) 30 is not old. Why do you put so much stock into what a mass marketed men's humor magazine publishes? Why let your few remaining decades/years/days/hours/SECONDS be wasted on unneccessary consternation regarding a published opinion? If you are truly suicidal then i dare you do do it RIGHT NOW; you will have succeeded where i have failed, your problems regarding mortality will be solved, and the rest of us will be able to grieve you and then MOVE ON. If you are NOT truly suicidal (and I hope this is the case) then stop waiting to die and live! If your BF dipleaases you so, chuck him! If you think your getting flabby, start walking more and matching what you eat! If someone calls you a poxy old scag BLOW THEM OFF! That's right, ignore them! Choose the stimuli you focus on; filter the rest.

Finally:

As i said before, I am seriously, habitually suicidal; I am not perfect at taking my own advice. The one thing that stops me from offing myself is a sense that I would miss "the next part." Life is neither constantly great or consistantly shytty; it is a dynamic, liquid thing. Bad gets better, good gets worse. Remember the words of your immortal bard; his play "HAMLET", the alas poor Yorick monalogue: ...go now to your lady of the house; tell her that she may paint an INCH THICK, yet to this favor she will still come..."

If you really get down in the dumps PM me. I have at least one really good ear.

[swan_s0ng]

I don't buy the whole sex as a basic function of life bit at all.

i wasnt stating my opinion, i was stating a well-known basic biological fact. there are 7 elements to all known life forms, whatever the species. they are;

Movement
Respiration
Sensitivity
Growth
REPRODUCTION<<<<<<<<
Excretion
Nutrition

[JedahNSonans]

On 2004-01-26 08:44, Omni-Man wrote:
I hope I'm not too late for this:

I see from your profile that youre a brit which makes you volatile

I am a 23 year old American male,


That's more irony than the persona of Ricky Gervais.

[swan_s0ng]

That's more irony than the persona of Ricky Gervais.


...hahaha...yeah. if he thinks he can really know anything about someone from an online profile they create, then he must be quite naieve. but then its not like he would be the first presumptious person on the internet, or in reality for that matter. hmmm...odd...im feeling a real urge to name names of baka on pso but...i guess this is what is meant by that 'stareing into the abyss and it stareing back into you' quote. meeting those baka who talk about others when they are not present seems to infect you if you stay around them long enough. <<< that was off topic, oh well.

[Anubis_]

Reproduction is a basic funtion of all life forms..
However
I dont think that includes sex for pleasure..


I really could care less what people think of me.. (Excluding my gf, my brothers and sisters, and occasionaly my parents..) I know what I am, and I know what I like.. I hate when people put me into a bag of sterotypes..

All men are pigs..
Women complain to mutch..
Black People Steal..
Arrabs are terrorists...


To me, people who abide bye stereotypes are no better than a racist or sexist.. Its lunacy to judge all people you havent even meet on people youve meet in the past..

So all i really wanna say is...

NOT ALL GUYS THINK LIKE THAT..
WERE STILL OUT THEIR SOMEWHERE..
For the few percentage of guys out their who dont think like that.. Its just as hard for them to find a mate as it is for girls with the same values...

[Daikarin]

For the few percentage of guys out their who dont think like that.. Its just as hard for them to find a mate as it is for girls with the same values...



You said it. Hey, but there's no rush right? =)

[Omni-Man]

I said put away those flamethrowers!

If you read my post you'll notice the first part was intended as "cheekiness".

At any rate, I never claimed to know EXACTLY what Shim is going through; I just said I have an IDEA.

At some point we will all hear death knocking on our door, feel the Reaper's breath on our back and taste the fear of our own mortality.

I apologize for the lengthy post beforehand, and I will now distill my thesis to its most succinct essence:

Shim don't kill yourself; there are too many reasons not to.
Shim RELAX, don't give the power to rile you over to your culture.

Everyone please read a post entirely before commenting on it; if the post is too long for you, ignore it.

Thankyouhaveanicedaygoodnightanddogbless.

[KodiaX987]

Let's make a statement we all know is true, then we can proceed from there. I henceforth call:


The Dilbert Principle: People are idiots.

[swan_s0ng]

Let's make a statement we all know is true, then we can proceed from there. I henceforth call:


The Dilbert Principle: People are idiots.


thats off topic too, but i just coulnt resist posting how i whole-heartedly agree (for the vast majority of humannity).




I said put away those flamethrowers!

If you read my post you'll notice the first part was intended as "cheekiness".

At any rate, I never claimed to know EXACTLY what Shim is going through; I just said I have an IDEA.

At some point we will all hear death knocking on our door, feel the Reaper's breath on our back and taste the fear of our own mortality.

I apologize for the lengthy post beforehand, and I will now distill my thesis to its most succinct essence:

Shim don't kill yourself; there are too many reasons not to.
Shim RELAX, don't give the power to rile you over to your culture.

Everyone please read a post entirely before commenting on it; if the post is too long for you, ignore it.

Thankyouhaveanicedaygoodnightanddogbless.


eh...i guess my post did sound a bit personal, but i just try to say things exactly as they are (and disregard ppl's "feelings"). everyone always responds that way, how life is "meant" to be about happiness and/or fun. no, not really. its not all about fun at all, and its not all about happiness and love and smiles etc. thats not to say you should go out of your way to be depressed or anything - i just really question the same old response for every single thing - just do what makes you happy, have fun. eh...fun is just endorphines, if they made a chemical that could make you produce a shit load are you then by that "life = fun" logic, going spend your entire life just injecting that? no your not ;p. im pro negativity, because there are far too many of you overly pro positivity people.


"im pro negativity" <<< yes i know thats contradicting, its a paradox. infact, i am a paradox personified.

but he is right, its okay to get depressed about not living very long i think, but where ppl get the stupid logic that they should then take their life is beyond me. i mean if you are worried about dieing why the hell would you then kill yourself? thats even more baka and narrwminded than fun = life theories. besides shim, you aint killing yourself because i need your help.

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[Sord]

How about this rule:

Let this damn thread die.

[eRUPT]

Why must everyone always use the "Big muscles / Idiot" thing. Oh well I suppose people run out of intelligent statements after enough rambling.

I agree with lolita. I like to work out, I like to make myself healthy. I actually have FUN working out. That alone is plenty enough reason to work out that has nothing to do with caring what anyone thinks of how I look. How narrowminded people can be, how opionionated and judgemental and ignorant coming from people who seem to let judgement own them.

Yeah definetly alot of owned people in this thread, keep letting the world own you, let the world own your hate.



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[Black000Moon]

decades/years/days/hours/SECONDS be wasted on unneccessary consternation regarding a published opinion?
you forgot minutes....

[The_Pea_Guy]

On 2004-01-27 11:24, eRUPT wrote:
Why must everyone always use the "Big muscles / Idiot" thing. Oh well I suppose people run out of intelligent statements after enough rambling.

I agree with lolita. I like to work out, I like to make myself healthy. I actually have FUN working out. That alone is plenty enough reason to work out that has nothing to do with caring what anyone thinks of how I look. How narrowminded people can be, how opionionated and judgemental and ignorant coming from people who seem to let judgement own them.

Yeah definetly alot of owned people in this thread, keep letting the world own you, let the world own your hate.



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I agree with what eRUPT said.

I also like to work out too, because, like eRUPT said, it keeps your body healthy and toned, and I also like to add that exercising also reduces the risk of getting depression. Does that also make me an idiot because I like to look after my body, as well as my mind? Hey, try it sometime, it will make you feel good.



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[swan_s0ng]

you forgot minutes....


im going to presume that post was a "dig" at my signature. i distain rhetoric in the hands of munchkins. i . e saying i forgot minuties when you know i did not forget them and left them out intentionally. thus, asking a question to which you know the answer is irrelvant and illogical. suprise suprise, another illogical post from anotehr psow poster. and i suppose to you the fact that something was published concerning life-spans is significant, because you are the type of child that strives for "oringinality" of something pathetic like that? i very doubt you will ever be anything special (despite what your mommy tells you), but hey its not like you are capable of listening and learning anything from this so ill leave it at that.


Why must everyone always use the "Big muscles / Idiot" thing. Oh well I suppose people run out of intelligent statements after enough rambling.

I agree with lolita. I like to work out, I like to make myself healthy. I actually have FUN working out. That alone is plenty enough reason to work out that has nothing to do with caring what anyone thinks of how I look. How narrowminded people can be, how opionionated and judgemental and ignorant coming from people who seem to let judgement own them.

Yeah definetly alot of owned people in this thread, keep letting the world own you, let the world own your hate.




more importantly, if you dont give a shit what ppl think of your appearnce/what presumptions they make based on it - then why are YOU posting like that? heh...because your wrong and you evidently do resent the fact people may or may not make judgements on your intellect/wisdom based on your appearance. shock horror, humans being ignorant. who gives a rats ass what someone thinks about your intelligence from how you look. besides, the only way ppl would notice ur muscles is if you are one of those **** pretty-boys (excuse my french, i detest pretty-boys) that takes every opportunity to 'show-off' their physical form. in which case, you do deserve all you get for being a pretty boy. and if you dont, and on the rare occasion you witness ppl thinking your dumb because SOMEHOW they noticed ur form without you being a pretty boy, i know for a fact that speaks volumes more about their level of wisdom than it does yours. and i have even more doubt anyone will ever have the courage to actualy confront you in some way with their biggotries. if they do, just attack them- problem solved.



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lolita edit:

read the rules sometimes

http://www.pso-world.com/faq.php?myfaq=yes&id_cat=9&categories=Forum

it's good for you

especially the one about offensive posts

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[LollipopLolita]

wait what, just when i thought this thread can't be any funnier. first off, read and observe the rules. +1 warning for you. one of the few types of people who would use that term in a deragatory manner is if they're homophobic. 2. pretty boys does not equal gay. 3. muscly people does not equal pretty boys. 4. muscly people does not equal dumb. 5. everyone has a right to say what they want 6. posting opinion here obviously doesn't mean smart. 7. pretty boys does not equal showing off.

erupt is posting not because he cares what people think, but only to give his side of the story that shima had stereotyped. now why are you making it as complex as you did? more issues too? or why do you hate pretty boys, because they have something to show off? why do you have problems with people showing off unless you feel lessened or offended, it's their perogative? see everyone can do what you did and reverse the arguement. everyone here has issues. i don't know if we're a pso board anymore. seems like the neurotics and idiosyncracies board.

lay off the hostility and offensive posts to people and members of this board. seriously, it gets old fast.

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[eRUPT]

Heh offensive post to the site owner, smart =) Thanks for proving my point though perfectly.

[KaFKa]

On 2004-01-27 17:13, swan_s0ng wrote:

more importantly, if you dont give a shit what ppl think of your appearnce/what presumptions they make based on it - then why are YOU posting like that? heh...because your wrong and you evidently do resent the fact people may or may not make judgements on your intellect/wisdom based on your appearance. shock horror, humans being ignorant. who gives a rats ass what someone thinks about your intelligence from how you look. besides, the only way ppl would notice ur muscles is if you are one of those **** pretty-boys (excuse my french, i detest pretty-boys) that takes every opportunity to 'show-off' their physical form. in which case, you do deserve all you get for being a pretty boy. and if you dont, and on the rare occasion you witness ppl thinking your dumb because SOMEHOW they noticed ur form without you being a pretty boy, i know for a fact that speaks volumes more about their level of wisdom than it does yours. and i have even more doubt anyone will ever have the courage to actualy confront you in some way with their biggotries. if they do, just attack them- problem solved.


(i may get a warning, but i must say this)

could you just... SHUT THE FUCK UP!?!?

seriously, you act as if 1) you are the 'god of the world' and treat every body else here as if theyre just street scum. and 2) so damn narrowminded that its pathetic! you steryotype EVERY DAMN PERSON you meet. (oh boy, here comes the "yeah, and youre just another one" pfft) think for a second about what you're saying if you're as 'smart' as you think you are. you will realize that your posts have no base in reality and solely on ONE PERSON'S OBSERVATIONS. i would LOVE to see where one person equals the majority... oh wait... ITS IN YOUR NARROWMINDED HEAD!!

so, in closing, shut the fuck up, and have a nice day

yay, +1 for flaming for me, i guess

[LollipopLolita]

damn i'm badly jet lagged i know but kafka you made me laugh so much.

once you say you're smart and smarter than people, that proves you're not so smart, and even stupider to put yourself above people you don't even know

dood, whatever happened to ayame?


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[undevil]

I find the body of a woman to be a piece of art. I personally think guys have ugly bodies. I also think many women have ugly bodies.

There are a lot of woman over 20 years old who I would feel priviledged to date. MANY MANY women.

The fact is though that woman under 20 are pretty ripe, and many do have great looking bodies, well better then many over 20. Guys are naturally attracted to that beauty. I do not date the hottest chicks I can find though. I like girls who are on a more down to earth level. I dislike girls who think they are better then everyone else just because they look better then everyone else. Would I date a girl like this? Hell yeah. Would I marry a girl like this? Fuck no.

Guys should be priviledged to be with a girl they love. I really hate guys who cheat on their girlfriends/wifes/ect.

That is just my thought on the issue.

[KaFKa]

On 2004-01-27 19:14, LollipopLolita wrote:
damn i'm badly jet lagged i know but kafka you made me laugh so much.

good to know that i got lolita to laugh http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


[edit]oops...

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[LollipopLolita]

not that ayame...

[KaFKa]

On 2004-01-27 19:14, undevil wrote:
I find the body of a woman to be a piece of art. I personally think guys have ugly bodies. I also think many women have ugly bodies.

There are a lot of woman over 20 years old who I would feel priviledged to date. MANY MANY women.

The fact is though that woman under 20 are pretty ripe, and many do have great looking bodies, well better then many over 20. Guys are naturally attracted to that beauty. I do not date the hottest chicks I can find though. I like girls who are on a more down to earth level. I dislike girls who think they are better then everyone else just because they look better then everyone else. Would I date a girl like this? Hell yeah. Would I marry a girl like this? Fuck no.

Guys should be priviledged to be with a girl they love. I really hate guys who cheat on their girlfriends/wifes/ect.

That is just my thought on the issue.


i agree with undevil on this one...

[Arislan]

Oh, btw...
525,600 minutes. While I'm not fond of "Seasons of Love" from Rent, the main chorus line came in useful. ^_^

[Shimarisu]

Jesus Arislan, you scared me there, that's how many minutes are in a year.

In a lifetime, more like 42 million. Still not freaking well enough.

- Shimarisu

[Arislan]

Some quick math would give you some answer on that one. Decided not to provide it given that average life spans vary on sex, nationality (health care and all that), standard of living and the like. I'm not too fond of those death clocks myself, they're sually set a few years lower than current average, and given the pace of medical technology, it'll be higher than that by the time I get there.

Not that I'm not hoping for clone technology, so I can get a new heart/skin/colon off a hunk of meat that is me later on down the line.

[Shimarisu]

I'm hoping for that too, but you just KNOW the bible bashing majority are going to jump on any chance of THAT technology appearing in at least the next century.

- Shimarisu

[swan_s0ng]

wait what, just when i thought this thread can't be any funnier. first off, read and observe the rules. +1 warning for you. one of the few types of people who would use that term in a deragatory manner is if they're homophobic. 2. pretty boys does not equal gay. 3. muscly people does not equal pretty boys. 4. muscly people does not equal dumb. 5. everyone has a right to say what they want 6. posting opinion here obviously doesn't mean smart. 7. pretty boys does not equal showing off.

erupt is posting not because he cares what people think, but only to give his side of the story that shima had stereotyped. now why are you making it as complex as you did? more issues too? or why do you hate pretty boys, because they have something to show off? why do you have problems with people showing off unless you feel lessened or offended, it's their perogative? see everyone can do what you did and reverse the arguement. everyone here has issues. i don't know if we're a pso board anymore. seems like the neurotics and idiosyncracies board.

lay off the hostility and offensive posts to people and members of this board. seriously, it gets old fast.


...moderators. jeez. i used that "dereogatory term" not because i have anything against homosexuality, i just use that word as a general insult. i do not think for an instant about any males sexual orientation. and i never said 1.) muscles equals dumb, 2.) muscles equals pretty-botys etc etc and basically all those things you listed that i can be botherd to read. and yes, i do distain them. "why" she says, dont you have any grasp of at what honour is? dont you know any shame at all or what? you dont think theres any shame in working out/taking steroids (as many show-offs do) and then deliberatly showing off in front of ppl? you genuinely cant see anything disgracful about that? eh...probably best you dont answer. and yes, when i use the words "pretty boy" thats exactly what i mean, ppl who work out or take steroids to then show off. i dont mean ppl who would generally regarded as attractive by the face or whatever, i mean those who show off. eh...same old drivel. and i really think you people take political correntness far too seriously here. get it straight, your moderating a forum on a psow site, dedicated to a game on a console. your not politicians "setting examples" to young children the world over.




I'm hoping for that too, but you just KNOW the bible bashing majority are going to jump on any chance of THAT technology appearing in at least the next century.



the bible...all you have to do is read the start (i think its at the start, it was in the copy i read) to see it clearly has no basis in logic or fact - when it starts going on about "God" creating everything in seven days. yeah, im sure thats so very very accurate. if thats how the material starts out, you can pretty much disregard the contents as the person/persons who wrote it are obviously mistaken from a logical point of view. there are only like a few useful bits in it, and those are mostly common sense...like;
"an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

but your never going to stop cherry-pickers, picking out what bits they need and using that for whatever they need to. like for example, when all the homophobic preisthood didnt way gay preists, they started picking out the bit in the old testament that is generally regarded to condem homosexuality. thats enough of my time spent on this.




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oh yeah, lolita - if you read this thread and find it funny "in my own personal opinion" you must have a bland sense of humour.


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[KaFKa]

On 2004-01-28 13:01, swan_s0ng wrote:
there are only like a few useful bits in it, and those are mostly common sense...like;
"an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."


if you were to actually know anything about history, kiddo, you would know that it was an aztec emporer, not the bible, that stated "an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth" as a form of law...

still more mindless dribble from someone with a superiority complex worse than mine...



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[LollipopLolita]

i used that "dereogatory term" not because i have anything against homosexuality, i just use that word as a general insult.

we don't tolerate that that term at all, we prefer people show more maturity than resorting to that. using that as an insult is uncreative.


you dont think theres any shame in working out/taking steroids (as many show-offs do) and then deliberatly showing off in front of ppl?

not everyone that works out shows off, not everyone that works out take steroids. i have no need to generalize like that. apparantly you love to.


you genuinely cant see anything disgracful about that?

to me, people can do whatever they want to float their boat as long as they don't sink others. i don't give a crap if they show off, i don't have to listen to it or view it. i also don't have to be "holier than thou" about it.


and yes, when i use the words "pretty boy" thats exactly what i mean, ppl who work out or take steroids to then show off.

more generalizations...


and i really think you people take political correntness far too seriously here. get it straight, your moderating a forum on a psow site, dedicated to a game on a console. your not politicians "setting examples" to young children the world over.

don't like the forum and the mods? well then go somewhere else. we don't mind ^_~ anyhow, just because we're admins doesn't mean we don't have the right to express our opinion and say what we think. i never moderated you upon content, only because you broke a rule. besides, people have complained and mentioned about how offensive you are, regardless of content. so yes i'm doing my job and moderating.


the bible...all you have to do is read the start (i think its at the start, it was in the copy i read) to see it clearly has no basis in logic or fact - when it starts going on about "God" creating everything in seven days. yeah, im sure thats so very very accurate. if thats how the material starts out, you can pretty much disregard the contents as the person/persons who wrote it are obviously mistaken from a logical point of view. there are only like a few useful bits in it, and those are mostly common sense...like;
"an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

as kafka and your posts point out, you're not very accurate either.


oh yeah, lolita - if you read this thread and find it funny "in my own personal opinion" you must have a bland sense of humour.

on the contrary you get funnier by the minute.



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[Uncle_bob]

On 2004-01-27 19:03, LollipopLolita wrote:

wait what, just when i thought this thread can't be any funnier. first off, read and observe the rules. +1 warning for you. one of the few types of people who would use that term in a deragatory manner is if they're homophobic. 2. pretty boys does not equal gay. 3. muscly people does not equal pretty boys. 4. muscly people does not equal dumb. 5. everyone has a right to say what they want 6. posting opinion here obviously doesn't mean smart. 7. pretty boys does not equal showing off.



...huh? Confusing. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[anwserman]

OMG, Lollipop is actually replying in a post. P.S. I responded to your question in anothet thread, my name is spelt wrong on purpose. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Anyway, back on subject, not all men like younger ladies... I know the whole "screw your mother" thing is a big joke, but what the hell it got turned into a top 40 song, "Stacy's Mom". Granted, it could be a joke or something but still, the song exists so it does validate the point that some men like older ladies.

[anwserman]

On 2004-01-28 14:33, Uncle_bob wrote:


On 2004-01-27 19:03, LollipopLolita wrote:

wait what, just when i thought this thread can't be any funnier. first off, read and observe the rules. +1 warning for you. one of the few types of people who would use that term in a deragatory manner is if they're homophobic. 2. pretty boys does not equal gay. 3. muscly people does not equal pretty boys. 4. muscly people does not equal dumb. 5. everyone has a right to say what they want 6. posting opinion here obviously doesn't mean smart. 7. pretty boys does not equal showing off.



...huh? Confusing. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



Everybody has a right to say what they want, but if it doesn't agree with the moderators say, then its perfect opportunity for the writer ro go get a warning or get banned. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Sord]

On 2004-01-28 14:33, anwserman wrote:
OMG, Lollipop is actually replying in a post. P.S. I responded to your question in anothet thread, my name is spelt wrong on purpose. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Anyway, back on subject, not all men like younger ladies... I know the whole "screw your mother" thing is a big joke, but what the hell it got turned into a top 40 song, "Stacy's Mom". Granted, it could be a joke or something but still, the song exists so it does validate the point that some men like older ladies.


I love the music video for that song http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Get rid of the massage guy though http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif Ugly to, looks like white trash in the literal sense.

[Uncle_bob]

On 2004-01-28 14:35, anwserman wrote:

Everybody has a right to say what they want, but if it doesn't agree with the moderators say, then its perfect opportunity for the writer ro go get a warning or get banned. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



But then everyone DOESN'T have the right to say what they want, thus the aforementioned rules were self-contradictory. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Saladwood]

It's not that complicated. You can say what you, want, but stay within and respect our rules. It's not about mods not agreeing with what you say. And if you're insulting which Swan is again (+1) then yes you are going to get moderated. Look Uncle, stop making it an issue, now you're just picking at it for no reason at all. It's not just with the board, it's common sense, and it happens irl too. OH MY GOD, spare the thought.

[undevil]

On 2004-01-28 14:35, anwserman wrote:


On 2004-01-28 14:33, Uncle_bob wrote:


On 2004-01-27 19:03, LollipopLolita wrote:

wait what, just when i thought this thread can't be any funnier. first off, read and observe the rules. +1 warning for you. one of the few types of people who would use that term in a deragatory manner is if they're homophobic. 2. pretty boys does not equal gay. 3. muscly people does not equal pretty boys. 4. muscly people does not equal dumb. 5. everyone has a right to say what they want 6. posting opinion here obviously doesn't mean smart. 7. pretty boys does not equal showing off.



...huh? Confusing. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



Everybody has a right to say what they want, but if it doesn't agree with the moderators say, then its perfect opportunity for the writer ro go get a warning or get banned. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



This reminds me of a forum I used to go to a while ago. They had about 1000 visitors a day. The moderators were jackasses though. If you disagreed with them, then bam, you were banned. Even if you disagreed with them about abortion, they would ban you. That is how I got banned. They thought abortion was right, and I said it should be banned unless the baby was due to rape. Then the mod said I should be banned for having an opinion against his. Lame? Yeah. That forum ended up getting trashed by kids who didn't like the mods. They spent three days spamming the shit out of the forum with large pictures. Forum went so slow that it was impossible to read anything as it wouldn't load.

Admins learned their lesson, and they had to make rules for themselves.

[LollipopLolita]

you can state your opinion without resorting to using such deragotory terms as insults. lots of people are able to do it. i don't moderate because of differing opinions.

[undevil]

On 2004-01-28 14:45, LollipopLolita wrote:
you can state your opinion without resorting to using such deragotory terms as insults. lots of people are able to do it. i don't moderate because of differing opinions.



I know, and I totally agree. If you can't make a post without flaming someone (a lot) then don't post. Of course, if you can flame indirectly at someone, that takes a little bit of skill. Making people look stupid also takes skill. I wouldn't consider that flaming though.

This is what I consider flaming.

****
I have seen post related to that, and they show no intelligence. If you are that stupid, then you should just destroy your computer.



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[Uncle_bob]

On 2004-01-28 14:40, Saladwood wrote:

Look Uncle, stop making it an issue, now you're just picking at it for no reason at all. It's not just with the board, it's common sense, and it happens irl too. OH MY GOD, spare the thought.



Whoa. B( Just pointing it out so Lil' Bubba doesn't stumble across the forums one day seeing that post thinking he can say the "dreaded 3 letter F word" and getting banned. :< And it's not just with the board? Uncle can go around saying the "dreaded 3 letter F word" IRL without being banned from the U.S., heh. But since you ask, Uncle will now ignore this whole topic. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[LollipopLolita]

uncle you're being too literal

undevil, while i understand and appreciate that the above edited portion was an example, understand that it's still not allowed and it had to be edited. but i know it wasn't meant as an insult. but yes, you got the point.

[undevil]

On 2004-01-28 14:56, LollipopLolita wrote:
uncle you're being too literal

undevil, while i understand and appreciate that the above edited portion was an example, understand that it's still not allowed and it had to be edited. but i know it wasn't meant as an insult. but yes, you got the point.



No problem.

[eRUPT]

Man swan_s0ng, aka _J was this board really that exciting that you had to come back again? How sadly pathetic. Really guy, get a life.


(Didn't think I'd find out?)

Bye.

[Zaneatron]

oooooh the power of being able to see IP's strikes again.

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