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Arislan
01-25-2004, 06:25 AM
Note that the Title is about as racist as saying that "I hate crying babies!" or "I hate people who cut in front of me in line!". Not saying *all* of these people are like the following rant, but 99% of the ones in my area certainly are.

These people are obnoxious. Apparently the happy-go-lucky communal community of Brazilians found the need to mate with the relatively seclusive Japanese to make a race of people that are loud, non-rule abiding, and rude.

The area that I live around here has a small Brazilian community. Why they are here, what they're doing, I don't know. I know they originally came when the "Exotics" shipped in after the Kobe earthquake, but why they stayed, who knows. In any case, the actual native Brazil-born Brazilians aren't bad. They tend to keep to themselves, like any community in a foreign country tends to do. Their children, however, are another matter entirely.

See, the children, growing up, are raised according to Brazilian ideals. They are very communal, very talkative, and very *loud*. Combine this with the naturally quiet Japanese society (in public, schools and private life are a different matter), and you end up with a seeming contradiction in terms.

So, there I was, heading to McDonalds to get a Big Mac Set (don't normally eat McDonalds, but today they were running a special deal advertising their Australian Beef, and as a result, the Big Mac Set was dirt cheap). The place is quiet, only the people working there and a couple sitting enjoying their food. I order, my friend and I sit down, and then, the Brazilians come in. All 9 of them. We all hear them before they arrive, I hear the guy of the couple mumble, "Maa...Gaijin..." and nod the girl to look at the kids. She shakes her head sadly, and they both speed up their eating.

The 8 kids come in, full ghetto gear on (Japan has a current thing with Rap stylings. These kids seem to have taken it to heart, and look as ghetto as anyone from the Bronx or Harlem would be imagined to be, down to the frayed jeans, puffy coats, metal hangins, and the like.) and proceed to chat in front of the poor girl ho is asking if she can take their order. A couple minutes pass of raucous laughter and the kids totally ignoring the girl who by now is hard pressedd to keep her required smile (try smiling for over 2 minutes, you'll see what I mean), one of the kids gets the bright idea to order.

He does it in Portugese. She catches the required words to make out the order, puts it in, and gets it out to him. He does nothing but nod or shake his head at the girl's questions, then grabs his food from her before she can hand it to him, which, while not unallowed, is rather rude to do here. The other bunch do essentially the same thing, and the girl has a hard time catching the orders now, since they've apparently decided that with one order done, they can talk at the top of their lungs again. At this point, Ive scarfed down my Big Mac and vacate the premises, the Japanese couple having managed to do so within the time it took for the first guy to order.

General order of business for this particular group (there are several) is to loudly talk about anyone nearby in a mixture of Portugese and Japanese. I know enough Spanish to understand it when spoken, and Portugese, while different, shares some of the same roots, so I'm able to catch drifts of their conversations. It's not fun listening to yourself being ridiculed by these jack-holes while you're trying to eat.

The little children aren't any better. The parents don't care what they do, which results in the kids running around whatever restaurant they happen to be in (fast food or no), playing and screaming and the like that unattended children normally do. These kids have no values of personal space, and I've gotten ankles kicked several times by these little rugrats. The Japanese, in their normalcy, simply put up with it and ignore things as much as possible, so the status quo, such as it is, is maintained. Not that the status quo makes me happy, but I guess that's just the way it is.



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-Luke-
01-25-2004, 08:19 AM
Well, all little kids piss me off...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif
Luke

Black000Moon
01-25-2004, 08:38 AM
That is weird....In America wouldn't you get kicked out of most restraunts having little kids run around like that? This is crazy.......Ever try kicking one of the little tards?

Wood_Golem
01-25-2004, 10:02 AM
Hehe i've never met a Brazilian/Japanese person before, here in portugal there are lots of Brazilians around most of them tend to be quite nice and hard working people that like to party hard when the time comes but be friendly and responsable when working, but of course just like any kind of people in the world they do have black sheep..
I also can't stand rude people, i'd never be capable of doing what you described to the lady behind the counter. It's sad to be honest.

Oh and btw Portuguese and Brazilian isn't the same http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif there are quite a lot of diferences in the languages but 99% of the time if you (a portuguese speaking person) speak to a brazilian person you will understand them. It's like in American english and British english.. a Football/Soccer thing if you will http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif.

derBauer
01-25-2004, 10:35 AM
On 2004-01-25 08:02, Wood_Golem wrote:


Oh and btw Portuguese and Brazilian isn't the same


You're right; one is language, and one isn't.

Daikarin
01-25-2004, 11:50 AM
Brazil is a very poor country, compared to Portugal. I mean, my country doesn't have a superb economic situation right now (thanks to all those Joes at the government), but I can see the difference in the quality of life they have. Unfortunately, the average crime act risk is very high on Brazil, I remember when my parents went there and were afraid to go out without a guide.
So, generally speaking, Brazil is a country which lacks wealth and spares crime acts. Since some areas are very poor, it's likely to see children with no education and such, becoming likely for scenes such as that to occur.

By the way, comparing Brazilian language to Portuguese is the same as doing that to the British and the american. Different accent, some different words, etc. Per example, they refer to bus as "onibus", related with the american word for it. Here we say "Autocarro". On my homeland we say "Camioneta" more often. See? =P

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Arislan
01-25-2004, 05:33 PM
Blackmoon, yes. In any restaurant in America, you'd get a manager-type coming over to tell your kids to shut the heck up, and later to tell you to vacate the premises, after having paid, of course. As for kicking the little brats, I'd rather not have to deal with the fines and make-up presents required of me when the parents start bitching at me. So I do as the rest do, and ignore as best as possible, but at least I give dirty looks.

Ok, so it's Brazilian. My point about understanding the drift of the conversation still stands. Do note though, that the rant is really about the Japan born Brazilians, not so much the parents. So comparing the culture of original Brazil works for a basis, but these people don't act like they belong in Japan, which, for here, is the thing to do.

Siyamak
01-25-2004, 05:41 PM
all i have to say is that's sad, what ever happened to dicipline? I guess only Japanese parents teach it, but not Brazillian parents who live in Japan.

Nai_Calus
01-25-2004, 07:58 PM
People suck. Period. End of story.

The_Pea_Guy
01-26-2004, 11:21 AM
No matter where you live, there's gonna be some wankers that'll ruin peoples day.

I'm suprised that none of the management at the McDonalds you went to didn't do anything about the gang that was bullying everybody that was trying to eat in peace there. If I was being a jerk to anybody in some restaurant or bar, I would be chucked out of the place because of my rude behaviour.



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Allos
01-26-2004, 02:31 PM
Anyone been to South Florida lately? Practically the same situation but with Hispanics.

SorceressofTime
01-28-2004, 08:55 PM
dude, that sucks badly. i would have at least asked them to keep their voices down, since i would have had witnessess with me. that or get people to throw them out of any place.

i hate people like that with a passion so i do something about it.

KaFKa
01-28-2004, 09:33 PM
On 2004-01-26 09:21, The_Pea_Guy wrote:
No matter where you live, there's gonna be some wankers that'll ruin peoples day.

I'm suprised that none of the management at the McDonalds you went to didn't do anything about the gang that was bullying everybody that was trying to eat in peace there. If I was being a jerk to anybody in some restaurant or bar, I would be chucked out of the place because of my rude behaviour.


or beaten down by a patron...

Scejntjynahl
01-29-2004, 12:21 PM
Restaurant behaviour that I cant stand:

1. Loud obnoxious, never ceasing mindless laughter like if you were in a bar drunk off you azz.

2. Ordering water cups to steal soda from dispensers.

3. Stealing other ppl leftover food.

4. Not tipping the waiter (in fancy places)

5. Eating half the food and then complaining to management "that it wasnt good enough".

6. Trying to make deals with the menu "if i get this instead of that, change that with this... and so and so forth"

7. Asking for food that is clearly NOT ON THE MENU.

8. Been in line in front of cashier who is waiting for your order, THINKING of what to order. (during peak lunch hour) While others are behind you waiting...

9. Ppl who cut in front of you.

10. ANNOYING CHILDREN THAT RUN AROUND ALL OVER THE PLACE AND STARE AT YOU WHILE PICKING THEIR NOSE WHEN YOU ARE EATING IS JUST NOT TOLERABLE. (i dont care what ethinicity, booger eating children that run amuck and yell and scream should be on a leash.)

meh meh meh bleh.

KodiaX987
01-29-2004, 12:44 PM
Abide by Mike Man's philosophy. Burn the damn children.

KaFKa
01-29-2004, 12:50 PM
On 2004-01-29 10:44, KodiaX987 wrote:
Abide by Mike Man's philosophy. Burn the damn children.


finally someone says it! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

KodiaX987
01-29-2004, 01:13 PM
Wow, are you a relative of Rotis or something? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif