GC: The best class? disscuss amongs yourselves.

[jnblz316]

man HUnewarls are the best class there is. i have a lvl 93 and man can she kick some serious arse. her techs can go up to lvl 20, has shifta & deband,maxes tp at 1200 someting,pretty good hp,good atp but with shifta deband can make it go rediculously high,& has the 2nd highest ata out of the hunters. i'm mowing them down in ultimate caves. i just beat the mines today and boy was it hard but she held her own. oh by the way i also have cure/freeze,shock,&paralasys equipped. so basically she has the imunitys of the hucast. doesn't have the traps but all well. anyone else think a different class is better? if so then state why do you think.

[Xaos_127]

it depends on what you like, if you like magic user go the force. if you like swords nothing beats a hunter.or if you prefer rifles go with rangers.
So all classes are equal except of course the Ramar, Which is the ultimate class!!!!!!

[HUnewearl_Meira]

I do enjoy the HUnewearl. As stated above, she's got that Hunter ATP, she has the best technique-casting ability of all the hunters, and personally, more than anything else, for those of us who like women, she's quite possibly the most pleasent character class to look at for hours at a time.

I've also found the RAcast to be quite fun to play, however. Their ATP is almost Hunter-like, they've got the HP necessary to take a hit (Egad, their max is higher than that of a HUcast!), and they've got all the other perks of using a Ranger, as well. I'm also amused by the clanking sound they make when they walk around.

[DezoPenguin]

It's all personal taste--each class has something unique for someone, both statistally and aesthetically.

For myself, I like HUnewearls and RAmarls, because they're the most self-sufficient non-Force classes and therefore most efficient for my use in offline play. Androids are fun at lower levels, though the lack of S/D makes me not like the difficulty of my girlbots at higher levels. Fluffy is just cute, and FOmarls have the best fashion sense in the game, even if their handgun animation is wacky looking. ^_^

[HUnewearl_Meira]

Hurry up and get your Hunter's License, Darrell.

My wife needs someone to level her characters with while I'm at work. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

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[Dragon_Ash]

I agree with Dezo, i also like Hunewearls and Ramarls too.. unlike male characters, they are nice to look at for hours on end... they've also got pretty well balanced stats and are great for soloing as they can easily supposrt themselves with shifta and deband as well as weaking enemies with jellen and zalure...

Those are my favourite classes, though i think hunewaerls are slightly better suited for me http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

I also like fonewearl's too.. i have one at level 138, almost 139, and she can already destroy any enemy in the ult seabed and ruins without so much as being killed http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[LordCronai]

I personally enjoy the HUmar. Although seriously dumbed down from the older versions, he's still got the best ATP of the Hunters besides the HUcast, who doesn't have the advantage of Resta, Jellen and Zalure. HUnewearl has more emphasis on techniques and less emphasis on attack power than neccessary in my opinion, but it really all depends on your style because the characters are well balanced.

[Nai_Calus]

I like women, but HUnewearls as usually made disgust me. I have finally made an attractive HUnewearl, but it took a year.

RAcasts do have Hunter-level ATP. Indeed, at max ATP they have higher ATP than half the Hunter class, with only HUmar and HUcast still having more. At L200 base stats they have more ATP than HUnewearl. Plus the RA-level ATP and access to Ranger weapons makes them rather potently lethal. Imagine the horror of a max-ATP RAcast with a Spread or S-rank Needle and a Yasminkov 9000M.

'Best' class depends on what you want the character for and the situation, as well as personal preference.

Here are Ian's picks:

Solo, offline: Any class. RAcaseal and HUcaseal will likely have the roughest time of it, however.

Solo, online: RAmarl or RAcast. RAmarl has the range, ATA and support techs to keep herself going. RAcast has the range, ATA and raw power to do the same, as well as what eventually becomes the best HP in the game. HUnewearl can solo quite well from what I hear, but Hunters are at a disadvantage in almost all situations.

Team Hunter: HUmar or HUcast. I actually have a preference towards HUmar here. His ATP doesn't get so high it's retarded(HUcasts at high levels are HORRIBLE for team play as far as everyone getting a cut of the exp goes - It all dies before anyone else can do anything), and he can heal himself if need be, as well as Jellen/Zalure should the Force be occupied/slacking. Plus he has better ATA, and at a high enough level will be -slightly- less useless in East/West Tower thanks to his ability to eventually use Holy Ray and thus not be constantly pwned by *insert just about every monster in Tower here*. HUnewearl is only valuable to a team if there is no Force or RAmarl. If there is, she is dead weight better replaced by a better Hunter.

Team Ranger: Any, really. My preferences lean towards RAcast and RAmarl simply because I prefer them to RAmar and RAcaseal. RAmarl can fill the role of a Force with ease. An S-Rank Shot or eventually, Needle, with Zalure, is more widely useful than a Slicer with Zalure as HUs tend toward.

Team Force: FOmarl, hands down. The role of a Force in a team is not to do damage, IMO. FOmarl is worthless for damage online unless you've got something horribly weak to Grants, but her support range boosts make her invaluable. A close second is the FOnewearl, with her boosted Resta/Anti range and mind-numbing MST. A melee FOmar can be useful in doing both the damage of a low-level Hunter and supporting the team.

Do not knock melee Forces as support, incidentally - They are actually more likely to provide proper support than teching FOs, as it benefits them as well. I can't count the number of FOnewearls and FOnewms and teching FOmar and FOmarls I've played with who were either slow or non-existant with J/Z. Just about every melee Force I've played with is nearly religious with the J/Z, as it is of immeasurable benefit to them. They renew S/D the instant it wears off, as well, again, because it benefits them directly.

Roundup of worsts, for fun:

Solo online: HUmar, RAmar, any Force and most androids. Of these HUmar and meleeing Forces are probably the least painful.

Team Hunter: HUcaseal or HUnewearl. HUcaseal is meh at best, HUnewearl is made worthless by the presence of just about any other class in the game due to her balanced stats.

Team Ranger: RAmar. No traps and worthless techs make him good only for his ATA, and what Ranger really -misses- after a certain point?

Team Force: FOnewm. He has no range boosts at all, making him completely worthless for support. FOmar is a close second, winning only on versatility and a S/D range boost I find invaluable because S/D tends to wear off -in- rooms rather than between them, and it saves time and TP being able to cast it -once-, without chasing people down or making them come to me.

All of this of course is IMO.

Worst concievable team: 4 RAmars, RAcaseals, FOmarls, FOmars or HUcaseals, or any team in which the sole source of support is either a HUmar or RAmar. Seabed with nobody capable of Jellen/Zalure or Resta is also painful. Worst c-mode team I can think of is four meleeing FOmars, four RAmarls, four HUnewearls, or any team that contains either all Rangers or Forces.

Ian's ideal team, general gameplay:

HUmar, HUcast, RAcast, FOmarl.

Ian's ideal team, Tower gameplay:

RAmarl, RAcast, RAcast, FOmarl.

Ian's ideal team, raping anything sideways:

RAmarl, RAmarl, RAmarl, RAmarl. All with Needles.

[PurplePower1]

HUnewearl are the best, of course.

[iamfanboy]

My comment on HUnewearls:

FOmarl: "Oh my GOD, Becky, look at her butt. it is SO big. She looks like one of those RAmar girlfriends. But who understands those RAmars anyway. They only talk to her because she looks like a TOTAL prostitute."

Baby got BACK. ~_^

...To be honest, I find myself staring at my HUnewearl's pleasant keister so often that up on the C-stick comment shortcut is, "Quit watching my butt, pervo." I have to use it occasionally, if only to amuse myself.

*points to sig as his own commentary as to what characters own*

I just can't get into playing androids. I mean, the traps are nice and all, as is the ability to create see other traps, but I got my HUcast up to level 39, finally was able to equip the Red Sword I'd had sitting in a box for who knows how long, and just went... meh. Deleted him and created a newer, funnier looking HUcast that I might work up to Ultimate if only to pipe for a twin psychogun.



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[lain2k3]

My picks for each area, offline.

Forest: FOnewm - 30% bonus to RA techs is undeniably better than anything available.

Caves: HUcast - would have been RAmarl if not for the bulit in cure/paralysis. Highest atp and freeze traps pwn.

Mines: RAmarl - can be close to invincible with support techs, ridiculous ata, able to use spread needle.

Ruins: HUnewearl - Highest solo defense possibilities, flowens 3084=pwn.

Temple: All droids - freeze traps+small rooms+slicers/spread needle+no paralysis=pwn.

Spaceship: =/ dunno

GDV/CCA: FOnewearl - penetrating megid, simple techs for minibosses.

Seabed: FOnewearl - penetrating megid, jellen level 30.

[Stingray]

Looks:
Androids: Hucasts... They just look cool to me...

Males: RAmars... We can look like Ninjas, and our costume isn't as bad as the others.

Females: Ramarl/Huwearal... both look great... and RAmarls hold their pistols ghetto style ;p

Game wise:
Hunters:... not sure, but HUcasts going solo doesn't sound too great to me... arg my HUcast and hand out damage but he doesn't take it very well

Rangers:... RAcasts most likely, but I like my RAmar and yes the hiighest ATA helps online with weapons with no hit %

Forces: depends on you style of force really... support: FOmarl, Melee: FOmar, Megid-crazy-sycopath: FOwearal... and so forth

[doubletake123]

I have a 122 hucast and a 112 hunewhearl and imo i think the hucast is better.

[Cyger]

On 2004-04-16 09:58, DezoPenguin wrote:

FOmarls have the best fashion sense in the game, even if their handgun animation is wacky looking. ^_^


Imagine, if a handgun throws them back that much, I wonder what would happen if they used a rifle or a launcher? Teehee.

[Liquid_Bacon]

It's hard to define a "best" class, because everyone is looking for something different from their character.

For example, when I decided to make my first Hunter of the Xbox version, I made a HUmar even though a HUcast much better suits my Hunter playing style of constant hacking and slashing without much else in between. Why? I wanted to be able to use my Hunter in Battle mode as well. And as anyone who is experienced with Battle mode knows, you're useless without techniques. So, for me, the HUmar was the "best" hunter.

When I made my first Ranger of this version, I was looking to make a Redria or Skyly (best drops in the Towers), and I wanted the class that could best solo the Towers. Since I don't enjoy playing Rangers that much, I mainly made my Ranger for Tower runs, because they're the only class that can realistically do them alone. (Yes, you'll have some success with the HUnewearl or an extremely high level Force, but it'll be tough.) Naturally, I chose the Ramarl. Her level 20 Shifta/Deband/Jellen/Zalure combined with Resta that actually heals more than a quarter of your health makes her the best Ranger for soloing, well, anything. However, when playing with a team that includes a Force, all those techniques are useless to you and you might as well go with the superior ATP of a RAcast or something. But since I mostly want my Ranger for Tower runs, the RAmarl was the "best" Ranger for me.

See what I mean?

[PsychoMantis]

i like any of the droids. probably cuz the traps. i like how all of them look too. plus they can see, traps,can't get paralyzed or poisoned too. they're wicked!

[PJ]

Cutest
FOnewearl, no contest. So kawaii =^-^=
HUnewearl comes to second place, and at the same time last place, it depends on how they make them.
FOmarls tie for second ^-^

Best-Looking Male (Not gonna say cutest)
Umm, can't choose. I'd say FOmar, as long as they don't make them look girly o_O (To many female-esque options for FOmar, IMO). The robes are always so cool ^.^ Or so dorky, if you change the name, "Robe," to, "Dress."

Most Fun
This is all about your personal playing style. No one person can decide which is the most fun, nor can one topic.

My personal favourite classes are Forces, FOmars to be exact. Next is Hunters, last place Rangers.

Most fun Hunter: Not sure. They all are a lot of fun ^-^

Most fun Ranger: RAcast

Ugliest Female:
Either the HUnewearl (When done poorly) or RAmarl *prepares anti-RAmarl-complimenting shield*

No offense, right Ian? *dies*

Ugliest Male:
Toilet Boil Man. No doy.

Least Fun to play:

(Will get bashed a bajillion times over for this)

*GASP!*

RAmarl...

I don't care how efficient they are in play, they are no fun to play! At all!

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-04-16 13:06, Cyger wrote:

On 2004-04-16 09:58, DezoPenguin wrote:

FOmarls have the best fashion sense in the game, even if their handgun animation is wacky looking. ^_^


Imagine, if a handgun throws them back that much, I wonder what would happen if they used a rifle or a launcher? Teehee.



My brother-in-law likes to watch his FOmarl use an Inferno Bazooka because it looks like it nearly knocks her down.

[jnblz316]

I personally enjoy the HUmar. Although seriously dumbed down from the older versions, he's still got the best ATP of the Hunters besides the HUcast, who doesn't have the advantage of Resta, Jellen and Zalure. HUnewearl has more emphasis on techniques and less emphasis on attack power than neccessary in my opinion, but it really all depends on your style because the characters are well balanced.

humar has the highest atp but they don't have shifta & deband to really throw that atp through the roof.
i hear if you equip a lets say red swords to the hunewarl with max atp and cast shifta deband the atp is at around 2300 or 24000. man thats some sick atp especially in ultimate. they are just the best all around class in the game bar none.

[NiNeTeeN69]

I love my HUcast, my very first character and last,awsome HP,awsome ATP, fair enough ATA with S-Parts its better than HUnewearl and Humar since Humans cant equip it. High amounts of Freeze & Confuse, once you have 20+ Freeze & Confuse it rocks.
Able to see traps, cant get paralyzed, in my oppinion looks the koolest with my costume & mag (blue/black/red Rati)
I also love RAcaseal & HUcaseal,they look sexy in a droid sort of way.

[DurakkenX]

ummm HUcasts have highest ATP...2500 on regular with 100% on the wep and Shifta is 4500+

I loves HUcast

FOmar's look cool, but their look is better for Hunters i think...

HUmar's suxors usually in my oppinion

[Cheep]

Well,its opinoin is it not? My favourite is ramarl! They have good stats and techs and best of all,M.C. Hammer pants!!!! I also have that hat that looks like I have squirrel ears,or a turtle shell... I like rangers,and I got frustrated trying to play my brothers ramar. He had to resta at least twice! I also like my evp,although sometimes I get stuck blocking inside swarms of enemies >.<

[iamfanboy]

As far as looks/costume goes...

I think that the HUmar and RAmar got the short end of the stick. I mean, sure, the RAmar can look like a ninja-dude... kind of... but seriously. I used to have a Warhammer 40k figurine that we called "Inquisitor Toiletbowl" who could have been a RAmar. And the HUmar... well... An AFRO??? WTF?

And don't get me started on the FOnewm costumes. I mean, can you get any more fruity?

The RAmarl, FOmar, HUnewearl, and FOnewearl costumes are the best, I feel, because they have the most variety. FOmarl costumes all look like such prim traditional Japanese 'nice girls' that it makes me angry.

I like the RAmarl costumes a lot, though I REALLY wish they had put a RAmarl head/face that had a cigar in her mouth. I just get this mental image of a cute li'l RAmarl smoking a big fat stogie while blasting away with an Arms, then when the going gets rough and she has to get close-in, spitting the stogie out as she draws her Vulcans.

For the men, the FOmar's costumes are the best. Secure enough in his masculinity that he can wear what some might call a dress, can fight and cast spells fairly well when equipped right, and has a gnarly old-man face with glasses... Yep, if I ever create another Force (unlikely), I'm going with a FOmar.

And let's face it, at the highest levels it doesn't matter WHAT you are, as long as you look good doing it. I'm saving a GAE BOLG for when my HUnewearl's on a high enough level to use it and still kill enemies without breaking a sweat.

[3v1L19]

Humars OI I have no problem with some humars, but soem with those H U G E freaking shoulders and they use caps and use hacks omg....I hate that so bad...I have a humar lvl154 never use.

My favorite class has got to be Fomarl Ive played with them since they came out http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif If theres one problem I have about fomarls its that damn thing on their back im not sure what that is and I wish I could take it off.... oh and small Fomarls that are realllllly short and they make them REAAAAAAAAAAALY skinny so that back thing gets uber skinny it jsut looks terribllee. I have to get up and leave out the room everytime I see one of those becuase I cant stand to be in the room with those or the big stupid noob humar that everyone picks as their first char...

[lain2k3]

On 2004-04-16 19:55, iamfanboy wrote:
And the HUmar... well... An AFRO??? WTF?

RAmarls have an afro, i use it often.


And don't get me started on the FOnewm costumes. I mean, can you get any more fruity?

FOnewms have a couple costumes that look wonderful, but many are junk.


I like the RAmarl costumes a lot, though I REALLY wish they had put a RAmarl head/face that had a cigar in her mouth. I just get this mental image of a cute li'l RAmarl smoking a big fat stogie while blasting away with an Arms, then when the going gets rough and she has to get close-in, spitting the stogie out as she draws her Vulcans.

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif I really like that Idea, I want to try and photoshop a pic of that, lol.



And let's face it, at the highest levels it doesn't matter WHAT you are, as long as you look good doing it. I'm saving a GAE BOLG for when my HUnewearl's on a high enough level to use it and still kill enemies without breaking a sweat.



It matters for FOmars/marls.

They still need good hit% to melee.

[Nai_Calus]

Nonsense, a FOmar can successfully hit consistently with Normal-Heavy-Heavy combos in Ult online Forest with a Hit-less Striker. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Oh, you mean seriously. XD

[iamfanboy]

That's why you have a Mag with DEX 100!!! Hit everything all the time!

...Heck, that's what my HUnewearl's running around with, and what my HUcast used for the longest time before I finally got rid of him...

But Hit % is great. Finally nabbed some Draw Vulcans with a 30% hit, and the Ruins was plenty fun with that equipped to my RAmarl. "Oh, you hit me, Mr. Belra? Well, I'll just suck you dry for 120 HP. Oh, I'm not sucking 120 HP anymore? Well, that must mean you're close to dead, so... EAT THIS!!!"