View Full Version : Too...many...HUmars!
Zinger314
05-03-2004, 06:05 PM
Does anyone agree that there are too many HUmars online? I believe that there is atleast 1 HUmar in 90% of the games with 4 players. WHy would a person choose a HUmar anyways? Most likely thy chose the HUMar for looks...but...why? HUmars are the class that is the least likely to get a date. (Heck, they are uglier than FOnewms!) Is it because of the Spike Hair? WHY?!
DanceOfTheDeer
05-03-2004, 06:36 PM
Maybe because some people (such as me) hear that HUmars are good starting characters...so that's their first character, and they're too lazy to start over as someone else. Just a thought.
JGaff
05-03-2004, 06:38 PM
Easy and forgiving perhaps? Very balanced and gives you a good idea of how to play right away, whereas Androids are for the more advanced, or more daring ( My first charcacter was a HUcast, and i don't regret it)
I don't play online, but I do have a HUmar,
Please don't hate me *Ducks*
Nai_Calus
05-03-2004, 06:43 PM
Ian-Kun X, HUmar, L129. If it needs whacking, he's your man, and if the FO is being lax with the J/Z, he has that covered, too. >_>;
Not all HUmars are retarded n00bs. XP
And personally I see way too many HUnewearls.
Zinger:
Not all HUmar players are supah n00bs with h4><ored BKBs and Dark Flow
There balanced stats are fun to play around with. My HUmar's mag has 15 Def, ONLY 61 ATP on his mag... and he still has enough ATP to kick butt, and with 62 Dex on his Mag, he's probably hitting more than most HUmars. Also, with the Mind at 62, his techniques can still do some damage.
And ugly?
http://www.freewebs.com/pjkynogazgallery/SC.png
Nya http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Ian:
But some HUnewearls are so kawaii!
http://home.graffiti.net/s_chao:graffiti.net/NewKirin.png (I have better pictures though =3)
Nai_Calus
05-03-2004, 09:35 PM
That's the ugliest HUmar ever. :3
And Ian hits more than your HUmar, his ATA is maxed. ^_^
Your HUne is ugly, too. n.n Hate that costume, face and hairstyle. :3
3v1L19
05-03-2004, 09:41 PM
Omg dont get me statred on humars. I myself had one for a while leveled him to 153 and I cant take him anymore that was about 9 months ago though. I hate the freaking huge shoulders. Also most noobs pick it becuase its the first char they see.
Bender202
05-03-2004, 10:32 PM
Too true, I ve never playd wit a decent humar, and usually avoid games that hav humars in them. I m tired of seeing the 300 bkb and a tjsword wit a 100 abeast,mach,dark. I do laugh in forest tho when my RAmarls charge berdysh does the same damage as a hard hit wit a tj tho http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif.
Eihwaz
05-03-2004, 11:04 PM
Probably becuase HUmars are the "defualt" character class, if you will.
And, if played properly, they are great characters. Good enough ATP, decent Defense, average MST (good enough for Jellen/Zalure/Resta/Anti, and Holy Ray), very nice ATA, okay EVP...
They get a bad rep, though, becuase so many n00bs use them with BKBs, Dark Flows, TJ-Swords, Hacked Mags, Maxed Stats, etc.
And they can look quite cool. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif
Nai_Calus
05-03-2004, 11:09 PM
http://www.iankunx.net/ian3.jpg
Pwned.
iamfanboy
05-04-2004, 01:07 AM
HUmars CAN look cool, but the only good ones I've seen are always skinny. If you try to make them broad, you make it look as though they're wearing, like, 18 shoulderpads all at once...
I personally hate HUnewearls with a passion.
1. Want mst? use a force.
2. Want atp? use a HUmar
3. They suck in cmode, battle and gameplay.
This is my opinion but meh.
Fos are only good for support, cmode and battle.
Fos are hunewearls but better.
And the main thing about them?
Theres to many damn it!!!!
And I've met more HUnewearls noobs than HUmar noobs.
Ian is so mean to mah HUmar ;_; *shakes fist*
To make a point, HUnewearls are better in offline solo because they can support themselves: My HUnewearl's ATP and DEF are almost about the same as my HUmars because of S/D (20/19) and there's a 23 level difference.
Online, HUnewearls can still support if no force is present.
On 2004-05-04 04:08, SJ wrote:
1. Want mst? use a force.
You obviously haven't heard of diversity http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif
2. Want atp? use a HUmar
HUcast
rena-ko
05-04-2004, 07:35 AM
use what you want.
it doesnt matter which class you use, its a matter of how you use it.
and dont forget to add that little "imo" abbreviation to your posts ^_~ > everyone
Link108
05-04-2004, 11:05 AM
Doesnt anyone judge personality anymore? Who cares if your a HUmar or not. As long as you and swing a saber or fire a gun your cool enough for me.
On 2004-05-04 05:00, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:
Ian is so mean to mah HUmar ;_; *shakes fist*
To make a point, HUnewearls are better in offline solo because they can support themselves: My HUnewearl's ATP and DEF are almost about the same as my HUmars because of S/D (20/19) and there's a 23 level difference.
Online, HUnewearls can still support if no force is present.
On 2004-05-04 04:08, SJ wrote:
1. Want mst? use a force.
You obviously haven't heard of diversity http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif
2. Want atp? use a HUmar
HUcast
Sigh...
I'm refering to the fact that both HUmar and HUnewearl both have that wonderful power of Resta and Ryuker for Money saving on Dimates and Telepipes..
Yes, but HUnewearl will heal more with Resta, hence using less TP (For multiple Restas), hence using less Difluids, hence actually saving you money.
And of course, it's not like you won't use some offensive techniques, so that's only one case.
Of course, since my HUmar has MST on his Mag, his MST is higher, but that's not the point http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Rapture
05-04-2004, 12:36 PM
Humars are cool, personally I think that Ramarls and Ramars are better, just my opinion though.
3v1L19
05-04-2004, 01:26 PM
On 2004-05-03 21:09, Ian-KunX wrote:
http://www.iankunx.net/ian3.jpg
Pwned.
By god if theres something that I really cant stand is humars that are above normal size, or that have that HUGE shoulder.
Mixfortune
05-04-2004, 01:45 PM
The only thing above normal size are RAcasts and HUcasts, really. And that HUmar doesn't really have huge shoulders, as far as HUmars go. It's on one arm and it's just there for the looks of it.
It's like saying you hate FOmars because of the robe/"dress", without even considering their capabilities.
Yes, my primary character is a HUmar. I am far from being a newbie. I am also legit.
If anything, in the higher levels I see a lot more FOmarls. Of course, that just may be what happen to be in the games I join in.
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On 2004-05-03 21:09, Ian-KunX wrote:
http://www.iankunx.net/ian3.jpg
Pwned.
Dude...thats the ugliest piece of sh*t I've ever seen...
One of the worst hairdos and the worst costume?
dude...
DezoPenguin
05-04-2004, 03:37 PM
HUmars? Oberon 1-1. That's all you need to know about my opinion of HUmars. Guilt by association (though ironically one of my best friends and regular online partners played a HUmar exclusively). And that's before their technique capacity got gutted and the HUnewearl's got jacked up. (And hey, from a purely statistical standpoint, if you've got an ATP fetish, get a HUcast.)
However, a good player can make any class work. That's why there are melee FOnewearls. And questions of appearance are purely aesthetic, 100% opinion, so they're even more irrelevant to debate.
ViewtifulJoe
05-04-2004, 04:09 PM
Humars to my make people look imature. It's just the Humar look. I have one, and I'd delete him if he wasn't an ultimate Greenil. They annoy me to death.
Zelgadis
05-04-2004, 04:28 PM
I hate HUmars with a passion. Namely because I was going to get one in ult and he just couldn't cut it. So I got pissed and made a HUcast in his place.
On 2004-05-04 14:28, Zelgadis wrote:
I hate HUmars with a passion. Namely because I was going to get one in ult and he just couldn't cut it. So I got pissed and made a HUcast in his place.
Does that mean he wasn't strong enough? o_O
1) All technique users make it into/go through Ultimate much easier than Androids do.
2) Jellen and Zalure is definately enough for any HUmar. It's much more useful than S/D anyways.
3) HUmar has an excellent mix of high ATP, and the superior J/Z over S/D (Just comparing him to RAmar). Not to mention not terrible MST if raised properly. Resta won't be a problem.
Yeah...
HUmars rock http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Armageddon013
05-04-2004, 07:16 PM
HUcast, FUCl< HUmar, they are like the plague. kill one and theres always another to take its place. their Insects, HUcast can stomp them...Game Over.
Liquid_Bacon
05-04-2004, 07:30 PM
HUcasts are probably a better choice than a HUmar in most cases, but what if you want to be able to do Battle mode with your Hunter? A HUcast just won't cut it if you play against serious Battle mode players.
I think most people hate what the HUmar has come to stand for, not the HUmar itself. Hell, I hate what the HUmar stands for; it's why I so enjoy demonstrating what a skilled, legit player can do with this class.
lain2k3
05-04-2004, 08:43 PM
I hate the way humars look.
I hate the way 99% of humars act.
I hate that damned shoulder.
Humars do indeed make people look immature.
Most humars have caps lock on all the time.
I know only 4 legit humars.
Nai_Calus
05-04-2004, 09:19 PM
On 2004-05-04 18:43, lain2k3 wrote:
I hate the way humars look.
Depends on the HUmar.
I hate the way 99% of humars act.
No arguments there.
I hate that damned shoulder.
From an armor standpoint, it makes sense. Ditto the large thing on his forearm. He blocks with that arm. HUmar's costume makes a HELL of a lot more sense from a practical standpoint than... Just about everybody else's. I mean really. Who the FUCK in their right mind would fight in the shit HUnewearls wear?
Humars do indeed make people look immature.
Matter of opinion.
Most humars have caps lock on all the time.
Nah, most are too dumb to find it.
I know only 4 legit humars.
Hey, Ian is mostly legit. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif ...Actually, he's more or less completely so these days.
And IMO skill > legitness. You can be a dupe-user like nobody's business and be the best example of the class ever, and you can be uber-legit and suck fucking ass and be a jerk nobody likes.
I think HUnewearls are ugly and suck, and I see too many of them. This is my OPINION. It is not a solid fact, any more than the arguments trotted out in HUmar-bashing are solid facts.
G0bb0
05-04-2004, 09:34 PM
I've been online for about a week now playing with my RAcast and I've yet to play with a truly hlepful HUmar. HUmar was my first character back in the day but i wasn't a stupid item guzzling n00b. I was however a n00b cause everyone ahs to be at sometime in their life http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif But anyway i think the 'little kids' that play pso are obsessed with being the HUmar character cause it looks like ur typical 'super hero.' I think in most cases though HUmars are highly over rated and also highly over rated. They are decent all around characters as well as stat wise goes. As far as being ugly...... It depends on if you make your HUmar short and fat and look like an idoit or if you plaster on a fake afro to make you look oh so badass. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
lain2k3
05-04-2004, 09:34 PM
I know, Those are all in my opinion. ><
IMO, humars are obscenely ugly, yours is the least offnsive Ive seen thus far.
And there are way too many of all the -mars.
On 2004-05-04 18:43, lain2k3 wrote:
I know only 4 legit humars.
Does that include teh SC? No?
Well, know you know 5 http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Zinger314
05-04-2004, 11:49 PM
On 2004-05-04 20:42, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:
On 2004-05-04 18:43, lain2k3 wrote:
I know only 4 legit humars.
Does that include teh SC? No?
Well, know you know 5 http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Legit? Ha. Ash can use Megid! (when we aren't looking...)
I know alot of legit HUmars and ALOT of unlegit HUnewearls and vica versa.
The most likely unlegits tend to be HUcasts I've met.
Yaaaay HUcast is so powerfulI think I'll hack/dupe it so it's even more powerful!
I'm fukked off with these arguments cos theres people like me, SUPAH-CHAO and more HUmars that prefer HUmars to the HUnewearls...
Rapture
05-05-2004, 01:11 PM
When i played the DC for the first time i made a Humar, it does say that it's the beginers class and seeing as I was a beginner i picked him as my char. About the shoulder, the comment that was made about the practicality of his armour is completely right, also you can blame sonic team for the shoulder as they designed him. The humar hasn't became anything he is only what you make him, if you make him a dupe using piece of crap then so be it, the character has a bad reputation because of how idiots use him. If Ramars did everything that humars are condemmed for you would all be slagging him off too, the ramars bulky upper body due to his armour dosen't look great, but, if you choose his proportions right give hime the right hair and face he's cool and the same goes for every character, including the Humar.
Zelgadis
05-05-2004, 01:26 PM
A HUcast would pwn a HUmar. Traps are your best friend...^.^ Gawl my cast got past VH Falz easily where as Leon my deleted mar was having trouble even hitting him.
lain2k3
05-05-2004, 02:06 PM
On 2004-05-05 11:11, Rapture wrote:
When i played the DC for the first time i made a Humar, it does say that it's the beginers class and seeing as I was a beginner i picked him as my char. About the shoulder, the comment that was made about the practicality of his armour is completely right, also you can blame sonic team for the shoulder as they designed him. The humar hasn't became anything he is only what you make him, if you make him a dupe using piece of crap then so be it, the character has a bad reputation because of how idiots use him. If Ramars did everything that humars are condemmed for you would all be slagging him off too, the ramars bulky upper body due to his armour dosen't look great, but, if you choose his proportions right give hime the right hair and face he's cool and the same goes for every character, including the Humar.
I hate RAmars too, they are the traditional uber dupe users of the rangers. This is most likely because you have to move the control stick less to select them, and they can have spikey hair. These are the reasons dupers pick these classes, ease of selection, and pure ugliness.
and no, HUmars/RAmars/FOmars are NOT badass. nothing in pso is badass, same goes for the rest of the world.
On 2004-05-05 01:05, SJ wrote:
I'm fukked off with these arguments cos theres people like me, SUPAH-CHAO and more HUmars that prefer HUmars to the HUnewearls...
Well, I do prefer HUmars over HUnewearls.
But some HUnewearls can be quite cute http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif (Of course, 80% of the HUnewearls I've seen online are even uglier than HUmars http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif )
Zelgadis
05-05-2004, 03:38 PM
Lol. The ones I've seen are super kawaii! So I made one as well...though she may not be as cute....but I like the colors I put on her.
Armageddon013
05-05-2004, 04:18 PM
HUmars are Okay, i havent played with mine in so long, i forgot i had one till today...LOL! Anyway, they are ok, and yes, being a HUcast makes a lot of people power hungry, i admit, i love red boxes, with STRONG weapons in them...even if someone hacked them, i still like them. theres to many mars yea, just like there are to many white people, mars are just standard. Casts are the coolest. especially HUcast, HIGH life, HIGH ATP... that all that matters when your fighting, unless you are defensive (lol), then maybe some DEF and deband would be good for you. HUcasts are my favorite, i like the Hunters...Period, just protest the # of Humars and the addititudes they get. how many HUcasts do you see running around being asses? just the ones that hack strong items,LOL. but o well, all the damn characters are equal(yea, except HUcasts) and this post is a waste of time..LOL,JP
Sharkyland
05-05-2004, 04:31 PM
I don't care what people play... if they are noobs they can learn... if they are unlegit, oh well, sometimes you can't do much about it...
I play Cmode a lot with my HUnewearls, the trick is not to do the 3 hit combo or you'll get hit by the enemy though if the 1st and 2nd don't hit, you're screwed. x_x
Claudia_Final
05-05-2004, 04:40 PM
Blah!....Humar are not for Sissy....It is for Tough nut....No special technique, No traps, No good Tp, No Tp/Hp recharge...No Search Mine
Come on! No beginner can pull that trick out of the head...
^_^ Personal View Only!
burnningthings3
05-05-2004, 06:37 PM
I think Fomar are every where. I can't turn around with seeing another one O.O;
ViewtifulJoe
05-05-2004, 10:25 PM
Just to level the playind field:
-Humars- Ugly char assossiated with immature n00bs
-Hunewearl- put....on....some....CLOTHES!!
-Hucast- Creates the image of reckless confusion
-Hucaseal- Strip nude and paint yourself some colors o.O (Just about)
-Ramar- Very ugly, no power
-Ramarl- High heels, eh?
-Racast- "You gonna be able to fit through that doorway alright?
-Racaseal- You win 1st place for least relevant costume.
-Fomar- He's a guy? You sure?
-Fomarl- Don't break a nail, y'hear?
-Fonewm- Is that your but or are you sitting in a cup?
-Fonewearl- Why don't you go shopping, or cheerleading.
--Focast-- The perfect class... PWNEZ
Soo, this is all opinion, just saying that all the classes can be seen negatively, but I think they all can be cool.
Granz
05-05-2004, 11:27 PM
HUmars kind of annoy me. Its just that when you think of the cheaters in the game, most of the time you think of HUmars. Why? Because of the fools who use the TJ-sword and kill everything in one swipe. Those guys annoy me to no end.
However, I have played with legit HUmar's who are skilled, and I can definately see their upside. Pretty balanced guy with high ATP, and no glaring weakness.
I do have to say that most of their costumes are annoying, cause everyone gets the black hair with the black costume of somesort.
Rapture
05-06-2004, 03:04 AM
yea, just like there are to many white people
Excuse me, that sounds a tad racist if you don't mind me saying so.
Leon my deleted mar was having trouble even hitting him
See what I mean, If you raise his stats properley then your fine, the cast has lower/about the same ata growth as humar. Just raise dex on his mag,use some ata enhancing slot units e.g. elf arm,general arm,marksman arm and if you can, get a god arm plus don't forget hit% weapons. Phhh maybe some people just can't play the game. Not pointing the finger at anyone, just my opinion.
P.S. Just so you know my favorite char is Ramarl so I'm not pro humar.
RAmarls are ok...
But its not that racist cos it's like sayin.
'theres to many HUmars'
It's not that bad.
iamfanboy
05-06-2004, 03:29 AM
FOcast.... hehe...
I feel some fanart coming forth.
Now let's see if my fingers match my imagination; it hasn't happened the last couple of times but hey, this time might be different, eh?
And having had an experience just now with a HUmar using a TJ Sword, Red Handgun, and H&K25 Justices WHO NEVER MISSED ONCE THAT I SAW.....
Well, I don't mind HUmars as such, if you choose the right costume. Personally, RAmars bother me more; what's with the toiletbowl collar anyway?
FOcasts have been banned online http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Poor Kireek...
Stingray
05-06-2004, 09:02 AM
On 2004-05-06 01:29, iamfanboy wrote:
Well, I don't mind HUmars as such, if you choose the right costume. Personally, RAmars bother me more; what's with the toiletbowl collar anyway?
Its armor that covers the back of the neck but not the front... I'm not sure... SEGA had some wierd ideas for costumes. It is true that the HUmar is over used and because of that I don't have one...
that and his costume is not that good (I like the RAmar's better ... I mean our heads can make us look like ninjas or something... with wierd armor...)
SEGA really needs help of their male's clothes fashion...
RadiantLegend
05-06-2004, 09:50 AM
I'm PSOffline player. And i find nothing wrong with my lv156 humar. I found every weapon i have and my ATP, luck, and Ata are maxed.
-Hucaseal- Strip nude and paint yourself some colors o.O (Just about)
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif no one talks bad about my hucaseal. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_argh.gif
DezoPenguin
05-06-2004, 01:28 PM
On 2004-05-05 20:25, ViewtifulJoe wrote:
Just to level the playind field:
-Humars- Ugly char assossiated with immature n00bs
Yeah. That's pretty much the real problem with HUmars. It's not the class, it's the fact that it's been the Generic Immature Moron Class since day #1 of Dreamcast v.1. All the talented HUmar players get smacked with Guilt By Association (tm).
-Hucaseal- Strip nude and paint yourself some colors o.O (Just about)
Oh, geez, yeah. Some of those HUcaseal costumes (specifically the ones that look like they cover the left and right third of the body and leave the center stripe "bare") are a little too...um...detailed for comfort. The black-and-red leotard-with-a-thong costume (about which itself needs something said) is by no means the most revealing or obscene of the HUcaseal costumes.
-Ramarl- High heels, eh?
Oh, well, at least they're just supposed to stand there and shoot things, so being able to move fast isn't a priority.
-Racaseal- You win 1st place for least relevant costume.
No, no, I think the Little French Maid look is absolutely perfect for a military sniper. I figure the U.S. Marines will adopt it soon.
-Fomar- He's a guy? You sure?
I used to be sure, but then there came Rel'mitos...
--Focast-- The perfect class... PWNEZ
RAnewearl, darn you!
Soo, this is all opinion, just saying that all the classes can be seen negatively, but I think they all can be cool.
Yeah. Besides which, 90% of which-class-do-you-like boils down to aesthetics, anyway, which are a pure opinion question. A good player can make any class work (Witness ye the Melee FOnewearl) and a bad player or a complete jerk can't conceal the fact even with a perfectly optimized character.
FIDELCASTRO
05-06-2004, 02:22 PM
well, one of his hair styles is an afro, which makes him a logical choice. maybe, people chose him as their first person, and never made another character.
lain2k3
05-06-2004, 03:41 PM
No, dezopenguin, good players cannot make HU/RAmars good tech casters. Its difficult with hunewearls and ramarls.
DezoPenguin
05-06-2004, 04:11 PM
On 2004-05-06 13:41, lain2k3 wrote:
No, dezopenguin, good players cannot make HU/RAmars good tech casters.
*blinks*
Did I say that?
Though if it comes to that, I'd rather have a HUmar or RAmar with a good player who knows what he/she's doing playing support-Force than a FO whose player has no fragging clue what's going on. Yeah, there's just some things no one can do regardless of skill because of stat limitations, but I'm still convinced that a lousy player degrades a good character more than a lousy (stat-wise) character degrades a good player.
Nai_Calus
05-06-2004, 07:22 PM
It took until Relmitos? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif What, Calus wasn't girly enough for you? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
...Nah, Calus makes it work by being elegant to go with his 'ph34r my lack of masculinity' look. Stereotypical prettyboy bishounen. Smack him in a visual kei group and he'd fit right in(Psycho le Cemu is a good choice, YuraSAMA tends to look like a FOmar anyway. XP). He's so feminine he almost has to be male. XD
Tech HUmar just doesn't work. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif I've tried. >.>
Support HUmar in a game full of droids can work, though. Been there, done that, broke a couple of minds in the process. Then again, I live to be a support Force. XP
ViewtifulJoe
05-07-2004, 12:48 AM
Yeah, Relmitos...
I thought he was the Fomarl, at that "he" was kind of pretty. You're a guy. Gaaa! I liked you better when I thought you were a girl!
Racaseal- "Would you like some tea sir? Wait booma behind you, *BLAM*.... Tea?"
iamfanboy
05-07-2004, 02:32 AM
I think that was kind of the Japanese mentality behind each of the chara designs.
You have to REALIZE that chara designs from Japan are either wildly radical or cut-and-pasted. Now, with PSO, the designers knew that they were going to have to have SOME radical elements, and so (to play it safe and appeal to as broad a band of consumers as they could) they went 'cut-and-paste' with as many designs as they could get away with.
It's the FOmarl and RAcaseal that rank the highest as far as this cut-and-paste phenomenon goes. The HUnewear and RAcast suffer from it as well, but not as badly as those two. The RAmar was, IMHO, probably the first trial design of a Hunter done, and that's why many of the designs seem slightly... tame (aside from ninja-dude RAmar! I'm naming mine Sharingan!) compared to other things.
The HUmar probably arose out of the basic concept of the Barrier being a force-field generated by a pack on the left arm. "He needs to take better hits, and he can't be tougher like a 'cast, so he'd wear actual thicker armor!"
FOmarl costumes are based heavily off of evolved 'traditional good-girl Japanese costumes', and it bothers me. RAcaseals are the 'robot girl next door', and it bothers me. HUnewearls are the 'exotic, dangerous fighting girl', and that doesn't bother me at all as long as she's wearing short-shorts.
FOnewms and FOnewearls show the most interesting aspects of the chara design work, even if the 'newms come off looking like elvish Elton Johns. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I don't know who came up with the FOnewearl notion, but it works for me. Maybe I should go back and look at the original Phantasy Star games, to see how PSO evolved from those concepts.
...Sorry about rambling, I've been character designing all night for one of my comics and after all that work, one tends to get a bit... er... discombobulated.
iamfanboy
05-07-2004, 02:38 AM
HUcaseals, FOmars, and RAmarls were all added in the Gamecube version of the game, so I didn't cover them in the rant above. (in case any n00bs were wondering why none of those character designs appear in any of the offline quests, that's why!)
By the time they made those chara designs, Sonic Team already had a good idea of what they could get away with and wanted to expand the ideas farther, and so those three designs lean far more towards the 'radical' end of the spectrum.
The HUcaseal was designed to be the idea of a robotic weapon, and it shows. I get the feeling that the FOmar idea was 'half-Jedi, half-pimp sorcerer', and it shows. RAmarl... now, RAmarl is an interesting dichotomy, as far as female character design goes. It doesn't fit neatly into any pre-established category, and in fact represents a true departure from standard Japanese character design........
I mean, can YOU imagine any anime characters as a RAmarl? I can only think of a couple, and t'be honest most of them would 'fit' better as HUnewearls.
Nai_Calus
05-07-2004, 06:05 AM
On 2004-05-07 00:38, iamfanboy wrote:
I mean, can YOU imagine any anime characters as a RAmarl? I can only think of a couple, and t'be honest most of them would 'fit' better as HUnewearls.
Arisugawa Juri, Kino Makoto... Not many, sure, but yes.
iamfanboy
05-07-2004, 06:24 AM
On 2004-05-07 04:05, Ian-KunX wrote:
Arisugawa Juri, Kino Makoto... Not many, sure, but yes.
...Blame the two hours I just watched of the Sailor Moon live action, but the only Kino Makoto I can think of offhand is Sailor Jupiter. Are you thinking of a different chara? Or are you just high? She'd be a hardcore HUnewearl! Tall, butch, shapely, and flings the lighting around with as much capability as she uses her fists.
And Arisugawa? As a RAmarl? ...Now I KNOW you're high. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif If the HUnewearl had an Ohtori academy uniform, I would have made a Juri Arisugawa.
The closest I can come to the RAmarl, as far as characters go, are the Dirty Pair, Kei and Yuri (that is, if they put on some FREAKIN' CLOTHES FER GOD'S SAKE!), Rally Vincent from Gunsmith Cats (....AGGHH!! NOW I WANT TO RECREATE MY RAMARL AS RALLY VINCENT! WHY DID I HAVE TO THINK OF IT?!?!) and, uhh.... Hmm....
That one girl from Blue Seed who's guncrazy? Maybe Priss from BGC? Oohh! I know! Osaka from Azumanga Daioh!
...All right, maybe not that last. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
All right, there's a few charas that could be RAmarls, but compare it to the HUGE HORDE who could easily be plopped into a HUnewearl costume or a RAcaseal colour and played with anyone who'd point and say, "Wow, I've seen that anime!"
MajinSpleen
05-07-2004, 09:01 PM
On 2004-05-03 16:05, Zinger314 wrote:
Does anyone agree that there are too many HUmars online? I believe that there is atleast 1 HUmar in 90% of the games with 4 players. WHy would a person choose a HUmar anyways? Most likely thy chose the HUMar for looks...but...why? HUmars are the class that is the least likely to get a date. (Heck, they are uglier than FOnewms!) Is it because of the Spike Hair? WHY?!
What does it matter? And I'll have you know I get plenty of dates.
Nai_Calus
05-07-2004, 10:01 PM
LA Sailor Moon needs to die. :3 Really. *snuggles against anime and manga*
And Juri would be a RAmarl because she has more taste than to wear the trash HUnewearls wear.
you7 should use who you want with what you want, for example i see loads of my friends choose FOnewearl because there powerful, i choose them becauase4 they look the best(and there so CUTE), i have a RAmarl, because i think she looks the best and a HUnewearl because i think she look cool too(not saying the others lopok crap but in my opinion they look better) and my friends say that 'hitogata' is crap but i use it because i like how it looks, isn't that more important(i would rather use something i like than some thing i don't even if its more powerful, and who cares if there are too many HUmars, if people like then then they should use them
lain2k3
05-08-2004, 10:01 AM
Indeed. online, I use peformance weapons, offline, I use fun weapons. I've dont several complete forest runs using only amore rose with my hunney. XD even the dragon.
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