People these days have too much freedom

[PhotonDrop]

Doesn't it seem odd that people get off scott free on serious crimes for a dumb reason?

If GenericWhiteTrashTypeA torches a buiding he/she could get away with it because they had a bad life growing up, so what? He did a crime more than worthy for serious jail time but he/she's off because off a bad childhood? Excuse me but GenericWhiteTrashTypeA lit the fire, not his childhood.

Asshole#6783 kills 5 Girl Scouts, and is let off because he/she has a mental problem? The point being? He killed the girls, he gets the death penalty, so strap him to the Electric Chair and tell him/her that its a carnival ride.

Things like the above are just absolutely rediculous. People do the crime, they do the time! So what if they have some idiotic reason to get off. The person did it, not anything else.

[DarthFomar]

Yes.....that's y ppl get feelings of Vigilantism. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Aunt_Betty]

Perhaps we could kill them ourselves? lol

[KodiaX987]

People in my part of the town speed all the time. My mom got spotted by a police car. The cop motioned her to slow down. My 40 year old neighbor got the same treatment. So did the old woman living across the street.

I was given 2 demerit points and a 125$ fine. Just because I'm a classic 19 year old. Fuck him.

[PhotonDrop]

Oh how I hate double standards aswell.

[Ness]

What I really hate is the fact that whenever someone, teenagers especially, does commit a crime, people always go after the media instead of the offender. The media didn't make him get in the car and go on a shooting rampage. Also, what ever happened to "crazy?" Whenever a kid goes nuts these days we are always looking for someone or something to blame. It is so wrong to call someone "crazy" these days?

[DarthFomar]

Well...that just goes to show you what some of these stupid punk teenagers have done to the world today. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Isn't it nice when you get singled out!! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif


{you did get what I just did didn't you...hehehe!!!}



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[Uncle_bob]

This country (the U.S.) is going to hell really...if someone breaks into your house and they trip and hurt themselves, they can sue you (the homeowner).

[Ness]

On 2004-05-08 12:44, DarthFomar wrote:
Well...that just goes to show you what some of these stupid punk teenagers have done to the world today. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Isn't it nice when you get singled out!! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif


{you did get what I just did didn't you...hehehe!!!}



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: DarthFomar on 2004-05-08 12:45 ]</font>


I got it and no, I didn't generalize.

[Scejntjynahl]

No we dont have too many freedoms, we take the freedom's we do have for granted.

[DarthFomar]

On 2004-05-08 12:56, Ness wrote:


On 2004-05-08 12:44, DarthFomar wrote:
Well...that just goes to show you what some of these stupid punk teenagers have done to the world today. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Isn't it nice when you get singled out!! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif


{you did get what I just did didn't you...hehehe!!!}



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: DarthFomar on 2004-05-08 12:45 ]</font>


I got it and no, I didn't generalize.



Wtf....what are you talking about lol. I read your post and I didn't see anything generalizing...It was me that did the generalizing. You know, to poke around. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif hehehe did it work!!!

[Ness]

On 2004-05-08 13:07, DarthFomar wrote:
Wtf....what are you talking about lol. I read your post and I didn't see anything generalizing...It was me that did the generalizing. You know, to poke around. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif hehehe did it work!!!



Oops, my mistake. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/blush.gif

[hucasts_rock]

On 2004-05-08 12:45, Uncle_bob wrote:
This country (the U.S.) is going to hell really...if someone breaks into your house and they trip and hurt themselves, they can sue you (the homeowner).


I'm not sure if this is true, but my grandpa told me of a person breaking in to a house, and he fell off the windowsill onto the concrete basement floor and broke his arm. He sued the owner and won the case...Argh, idiots http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif



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[EJ]

This country is screw up too many people complain and bitch about what's right and what wrong. If someone kill someone they have no right to be free even if they have a mental problem. This country has a double standard that allow people with money to be free from serious crime and people with little or no money that are innocent are lock away.

[Sharkyland]

Where has justice gone?

[Scales_of_Air]

"We live in a world in which justice is skewed." The ending sentence of a mystery story read in my English class - very true. And yes, America is going to hell...

[KodiaX987]

I saw a documentary today and I heard a sentence that is so true:

"Justice does not punish those who are guilty. It punishes those who got caught."

[opaopajr]

honestly go sit in a courthouse for a while. you'll find a lot of bad people end up doing serious time. not as much as i'd like; i still believe michael milken should be strung up by his testes and flogged to death gently with nettles, confiscating all his money and do the paper trail to find each last cent and confiscating that too, even if it went to his dear grandchild, yet....

you have to remember the reason you hear such outrageous court rulings is because the media only reports those, because they are the only ones that are 'newsworthy.' so we just get a scewed version of reality. i do believe certain law sentences should be reduced (drug sentences), while others should be increased (murder, rape, grand scale embezzling), but for the most part we are diligent in the effort to err on the side of sparing the innocent. draconian law filled with circumventions of legal protocol (like suspension of habeas corpus) does no one any good. eventually said societies implode from frustration and heds start to roll. part of the reason america's lil' experiment lasted so long is because of our emphasis of due process and checks on the powers of government.

but yes, those stories piss me off too. though i think that's their point. and someone out there is getting a kick pitting us the people against what is actually a pretty admirable (not perfect!) legal system. so take up my challenge and waste your time at a court house for a few weeks. pick something really nasty and follow it. you'll find yourself surprised.

[Armok]

Today
Steal a loaf of bread get caught and face a caution at best

Ancient times
Steal a loaf of bread get caught and face a night in the stocks or loss a hand

Today
Steal a car and get a fine or couple of months imprison if you've a shite lawyer

Ancient times
Steal a horse and get Death

I know its stupid but its better than it was way back.

[Hrith]

but for your examples to be relevant we would need to have certain proof of the person's guilt.

and death is never a solution, just like cutting a hand, we're not barbarians.

and people, do not mistake law for justice.

[KodiaX987]

To hell with barbarism. The Oklahoma City guy, you really think we would've locked it up in a nice comfy cell with free meals for the rest of his life? Jesus Christ on a Haagen-Dasz stick, that would be a REWARD!!!

[astuarlen]

and death is never a solution, just like cutting a hand, we're not barbarians.

and people, do not mistake law for justice.
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif omg, nodding smiley is TEH WIN!
In other words, I concur.
Maybe it's just me, but I would actually consider life without parole a far worse punishment than death.
Why use capital punishment? It has been shown to NOT be a deterent to crime. It's actually more expensive to execute someone than to lock them up for life. Far too many innocent or probably innocent people are executed. It's not applied in an unbiased manner: the majority of cases in which the death penalty is sought and received involve a white victim(s); poor defendents are more likely to get the death penalty, as they are unable to afford good defense. But most importantly, you do not have the authority to decide who "deserves" to live and who does not! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_no.gif

[Hrith]

I dunno about that Oklahoma City guy, but I've probably seen worse.

You seem to underestimate the loss of freedom, knowing how brief your passage on earth is and knowing that you will spend most of it in a cell because you're a sucker is the worse punishment ever "knowing you will never see the outside again".

[Scejntjynahl]

On 2004-05-09 18:46, Kef wrote:
I dunno about that Oklahoma City guy, but I've probably seen worse.

You seem to underestimate the loss of freedom, knowing how brief your passage on earth is and knowing that you will spend most of it in a cell because you're a sucker is the worse punishment ever "knowing you will never see the outside again".



Very true, for a person who "cared". But a criminal, does not conform to the status quo. Think a criminal would all of sudden grow a conscious because he/she is inprisoned? Not likely.

[Hrith]

On 2004-05-10 07:11, Furankunichan wrote:


On 2004-05-09 18:46, Kef wrote:
I dunno about that Oklahoma City guy, but I've probably seen worse.

You seem to underestimate the loss of freedom, knowing how brief your passage on earth is and knowing that you will spend most of it in a cell because you're a sucker is the worse punishment ever "knowing you will never see the outside again".



Very true, for a person who "cared". But a criminal, does not conform to the status quo. Think a criminal would all of sudden grow a conscious because he/she is inprisoned? Not likely.


after the first years, he will