Phantasy Star Universe

[LINX]

http://phantasystaruniverse.com/

No info at all right now. SEGA's E3 press conference is going on as we speak.

[-STE-]

http://www.rpgeye.it/public/screenshots/12052004/ps.jpg

[Sha_Hua]

ST always ment al the Phantasy Star games when talking about the Phantasy Star Universe.
So most likely of al this game will have various planets from the already made games.

What this means?? I don't know. PSO already had a lot of retro monsters so there's no way to tell how they want to explain same monsters on different planets.
So I'm not gonna speculate. I'll wait till there is some news from ST about this.

[Sharkyland]

Oh my.

x_x They sure took the picture of the title at the wrong time. I feel blind now. x_x

[HUnewearl_Meira]

It certainly makes one hopeful that we'll be seeing Algol again, though...

Hmm...

[Saigan]

On 2004-05-12 12:19, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:
It certainly makes one hopeful that we'll be seeing Algol again, though...

Hmm...



Ooooh, personally I'd like to see Motavia.

[Malkavian]

I don't see anything hopeful on this http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif
Basically in the coming soon. I hope is for next gen. If this game is online it will probably kill the actual PSO Episode 1&2&3 which I like a lot.
Enough sad was the cut and kick out of PSO DC so soon, to repeat the same story. Also at least there was the DC failure reason. Now there's no reason. Also how stupid would be to release an online game in the last year(s) of a console gaming generation.

Sorry if I sound mad. PSO is my favourite game and emotions don't hear to reasons >.<

[HUnewearl_Meira]

I wouldn't worry too much about PSO, Malk. Given that we're only first hearing about this now, it'll be another 2 years or so before we see news of Phantasy Star Universe's release. That seems to be the way of things, when something is made as a big announcement at E3.

[rena-ko]

there was a rumour about phantasy star 5 for quite some time now.

i personally'd bet for an offline rpg. hopefully it hits cube as well as europe.

[Saigan]

I have my fingers crossed for a new online game using the current gameplay style... maybe even the same engine. It shouldn't be too hard to do on the cube to add multiple planets and have maybe eight areas each. Even better would be transfering an episode 1&2 character over and adding another 100 to 200 levels of experience and another four difficulty levels.

To be frank, at 150 the game isn't hard anymore.

Except for the god-awful control towers soloing on ultimate as a HU-force...

No... make the Il Gills go away... sob...

[faceless]

Video
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/rpg/phantasystariv/media.html

[Arislan]

::speechless::

There is nothing I can say... I just wish I were at E3 right now. I would have seen that video in person.... Damn not being able to fax in the registration in time!

As for the trailer, incredible. Looks like it could be an MMORPG, or an RPG, no way to tell. I like the older Odin-like look of the HUnewm type (like from the Book of Hunters, or PS1, as I prefer). I didn't like the thought of him transforming, but not much I can say there.

The rest looked awesome. If this takes place in Algol, looks like we've got a Rykros-like moon again, and is visible by everyone. Or else, as I'm guessing, this is a Coral-based story-line. Looks like a definite possibility, given the technologies shown in the trailer.

[Kurosawa]

I think they need to mix the current gameplay engine with a MMORPG style game. Maybe you could target enemies then use combos on them, while dungeons could retain the style of PSO. Whatever they do, it needs to have server side only saves if it's an online game....which I think it is.

[Uncle_bob]

Anywhere else Uncle can see the video? Gamespot is being a fucking pain in the ass. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Zaneatron]

Surprised to see this is going to be on PS2, but that would probably indicate it is just an offline game http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

[Alisha]

jesus christ when i saw that trailer i had an orgasm
*falls to the ground in joy*

btw did anyone else notice the hunewm?



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[Uncle_bob]

Goddamnit fuck Gamespot. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Arislan]

How can you not? It pretty much *featured* him, the HUmar, and the FOnewearl.

[Alisha]

yes its official sega owns my soul nim like freaking out here i want to see more now!

[Zaneatron]

On 2004-05-12 14:46, Uncle_bob wrote:
Goddamnit fuck Gamespot. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif


At least your registered, gamespot either decided they dont like me and hevent sent my confirmation email, or my emails playing up again, today http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

teh wank.

[Rain_1]

god damn gamespot sucks...

from what i've been reading.. it sure sounds juicy.. but ps2? that is uber-lame.... specially since i don't have it.. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Oh.. ps2 has a network adapter.. and all new ps2 will ship with one built-in... it makes no sense to say that, because it's on ps2, it will be offline only..

[Uncle_bob]

Finally got it to work. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif Uncle is hoping that it's the story of future Ragol, hopefully.

[Arislan]

There hasn't been any news about PSU though, regarding systems. Best just to wait on that.

My bet is that if it's online, GC and XBox will likely get it, with a PS2 possibility.

Offline, PS2 and GC, with a very slight XBox possibility.

Why am I thinking GC will get it? Sega, and in particular, ST, has been pretty happy with Nintendo lately, and nearly everything they've been producing has been for Nintendo as well as the other systems. No reason this should change with a new game.

[Alisha]

i think its being released on all 3 consoles

*goes to watch the trailer yet again*

[Rain_1]

I even dare to say that's coming out for all *4* plataforms...
GC, XBox, PS2 and PC.
I also dare to speculate about it being a mmorpg cross-plataform..

Afterall, it does say UNIVERSE on the title... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Denny]

Microsoft has given Sega (and other developers) tools that allow servers other than Microsoft's to be used. I doubt cross platform play would ever be done, but crazier things have happened.

[Robo47]

This has PSO's character classes?

w00t!

*awaits RAnewms and FOcaseals*

[Zaneatron]

you lot are all so narrow minded http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

it says Universe, albeit its not a huge amount for me to work this staement on, but they have fucking space travel, this game could be easily set on the entire Algo system, who said they were limited to just 1 planet?

and more on topic, the video was awesome http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Para]

the video was good but not as good as the zelda one no offense.

Anyways I guess this is the next RPG. You can notice some newer updated versions of Booma (never mind it was just a character transforming into some beast form)
Another character looks like a HUcaseal.



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[Rain_1]

Oh, i just noticed...
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/rpg/phantasystariv/media.html

on gamespot, it's under xbox. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Para]

its under all for now.

[Hooga]

Looks like an rpg or a mmorpg, like others said. Notice the scene at the end where the hunters face off against a many-headed dragon - the dragon has the exact same roaring animation as the PSO dragons - the hunters hold similar looking weapons and pose in similar manner. Though, from what I know (very little), the weapons are more or less the same for most Phantasy Star games anyhow.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

Actually Trouble Fish, the only thing that's ever really been consistent about weapons in Phantasy Star has been the presense of swords, guns and slicers.

In any case, speculating from the trailer, it seems that this will indeed be the offline Phantasy Star V that we heard rumors of so long ago.

[Hooga]

On 2004-05-12 16:53, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:
Actually Trouble Fish, the only thing that's ever really been consistent about weapons in Phantasy Star has been the presense of swords, guns and slicers.


Shows how much I know about PS. I've only ever seen a couple screens shop-type screens.

Oh I want another PSO type game. Where I can go beat on the monsters. And play multiplayer. Even offline only would be fine (split screen multiplayer)...

[kazuma56]

http://nintendoinsider.com/site/EpluFAyApudTqrPkQM.php

Check that, good or bad, you decide, I just hope they keep offline available becuase jumping into a full online RPG without it being very well known is a very bad move IMO.

[King_Rappy]

I miss Ragol...

Anyway, It looks like this might be what's happening in Algol during the events of PSO. Either that, or afterwards. It looked like the seal on the profound darkness was broken or something. (When all those ships were destroyed) Uh, it WAS sealed away, wasn't it? I've never played PSIV. Looks sweet, but I'll miss the whole Ragol saga...

[Para]

The ragol saga was very good overall imo.

As for PSV... Why wreck such a beautiful ending that PSIV had? =/

Also that dragon sorta looks like "Del Dragon"

[Sharkyland]

The quiet scent of a fanfiction... is only smelled by the keen senses of hunter.

...

...

I think I'm going to get a migraine.

--

I really don't know what to say exactly. Do you think even though we have memory cards, they have an ability to do server-side saving? Or is it impossible?

[Arislan]

http://nintendoinsider.com/site/EpluFAyApudTqrPkQM.php


To quote Penny Arcade



The Braying and Neighing of Barnyard Animals Follows.


That's pointed at Nintendo Insider, not you.

I'm taking this as a result of someone posting news that assumes that anything past PSO *must* be a PSO game. Sega didn't state PS or PSO, and at the moment, noone knows. We'll just have to wait for info.

[Omega_Nova]

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HOLY OMGWTFFHJCOMGWTRFGWTOJGSJSAKFSODXJODSAFJ!!!!!!!!11 !!! I PISSED MY PANTS!!!
Anyways, It defiantly looks like the Profound darkness has been unsealed, it also looks like its going to be offline due to it being a multi planet game. on another note, this game will probably tie PSO with the PS series, it looks like the mainwave immagation to ragol is there and Profound darkness is blowing up all the ships (Note the that fleet been blow up looks like a bunch of pioneer 2's!) WHATEVER THE TURNOUT I CAN'T WAIT!!!!

[Arislan]

Never mind that Chaz and crew killed the PD in PSIV, making it impossible for that to be the PD killing all those ships. It could be an amalgamation of the power of the remaining Falzes and Xel'A'Thouls in the Edge though. If one or two DF were able to survive past PD (PSIII and/or PSO), no reason others couldn't.

But no, not likely that the PD has come back to haunt us.

Or at least, I hope Sega hasn't gone and shattered continuity even FURTHER by bringing the PD back to life.

[Omega_Nova]

Well, I really don't see any other great god capable of deystroying a fleet of ships, DF and OF wipe themselfs out in Ep. 3, unless Idola is really a god then I see no other possible evil other, aside from the fact that Idola means a state of mind or something like that, it is hard to imagine who could compare to PD DF and OF... the Germ sucked, plain and simple...

[Robo47]

Dude! This is pissing me off! Stupid ass GS! Let me view the fucking movie!



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[Arislan]

But again, how can a great god destroy ships if it's dead? And PD wasn't a god, no more than the Great Light was. They were both beings, not gods. Doesn't mean the PD isn't capable of blowing up ships, it is a powerful being, but not a god. At least, it isn't described so in the terms of the PS story.

DF went after and destroyed most of the World Ships that fled in PSIII, what's saying that isn't a DF doing that? No real way to tell at the moment. Not all DFs are as powerful as one another.

[KodiaX987]

From the looks of it, and basing myself on the fact that PSO is officially over, I believe PSU will be something like a 3D version of Secret of Mana. That means characters are preset and gameplay will focus a lot more on plot.

[Robo47]

Finally, I saw it...

That. Was. Simply. OWNAGE.

[VioletSkye]

yeah i nabbed a ton of screenshots from the video http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif It definitely piqued my interest. Can't wait for more info.

[Robo47]

Lets hope these things announced at E3 get released soon

[Malkavian]

Looks like we'll have to wait a lot for details. In IGN they say the project is very far from completion and that's why Sega doesn't say platforms, on or offline, or anything else.

Moment to calm down, and freeze the PSU emotions http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Arislan]

Do note, that the other video from IGN that people are saying is proof that this is an Online game:

Both Phantasy Star Online 2 scrolls, then Phantasy Star V? scrolls immediately upwards after it. Still not proof either way. Like saying "Is it PSO2, or PSV?" We'll see when more info is released.

[Para]

Please not PSV and kill the PSIV storyline... it would be very very very sad to do sucha thing.

[Bradicus]

Hmm...
If it's online:
I will buy Worlds of Warcraft instead (Blizzard treats its online players a wee bit better than our good pals at Sonic Team).

If it's offline:
I'll snag it faster than you can say "gimme gimme gimme!"

[KaFKa]

On 2004-05-13 05:02, Bradicus wrote:
Hmm...
If it's online:
I will buy Worlds of Warcraft instead (Blizzard treats its online players a wee bit better than our good pals at Sonic Team).

If it's offline:
I'll snag it faster than you can say "gimme gimme gimme!"


http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

[LINX]

It's an online action RPG. Confirmed.

[Armok]

On 2004-05-13 06:42, KaFKa wrote:


On 2004-05-13 05:02, Bradicus wrote:
Hmm...
If it's online:
I will buy Worlds of Warcraft instead (Blizzard treats its online players a wee bit better than our good pals at Sonic Team).

If it's offline:
I'll snag it faster than you can say "gimme gimme gimme!"


http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif



Sure you will stop lieing to yourself you'll walk past the game shop accidentally on release day and it will magically fall into your hands. For shame for even douting it http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

[Zaneatron]

proof? source?

[DruidMettool]

It'd be funny to see RAnewms and FOcaseals in the next game.

It's going to be a LONG time before it comes out, so it'll be more likely to be on Nintendo DS than on the cube.

[Sharkyland]

On 2004-05-12 20:19, KodiaX987 wrote:
From the looks of it, and basing myself on the fact that PSO is officially over, I believe PSU will be something like a 3D version of Secret of Mana. That means characters are preset and gameplay will focus a lot more on plot.

Secret of Mana would be nice, but I doubt they'll be making money through this. I think it's going to have an online capability like PSO.

[Hrith]

On 2004-05-13 06:56, Zaneatron wrote:
proof? source?
indeed.

and what about that gamespot video ? I saw it, but I wanna download it ;-;

[-STE-]

On 2004-05-13 06:56, Zaneatron wrote:
proof? source?




Just look movies of ign or under my site.
And read what some site wrote.


But we need to wait long time before it come out... so zzzzzzzzzz wait. Too bad sega lose time with ep3 can made psu before.

[Hrith]

thank you STE, a good thing I speak Italian http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-05-13 06:53, LINX wrote:
It's an online action RPG. Confirmed.



Incorrect.

That video said "Phantasy Star Online 2?"

But it also said "Phantasy Star V?"

It was a teaser. It only confirmed that there is another Phantasy Star in the making. It confirmed nothing toward its nature.

[Zaneatron]

yes, exactly what Meria said.

and anyway, saying IGN doesnt hold highly with me anyway.

and ill find proof on "some site" !?!? wtf? thats a vague comments go, it could be any site on the net based on that.

im not buying anything from anyone other than Sega/ST. until they give the world unequivical proof as to what type of game this is, and whether its online or offline, im reserving my judgement, and will disreguard anything anyone else says otherwise.

[J3553]

Looking good. Can't wait to see some in-game footage. I'm hoping for an offline game with a deep storyline. I don't mind if it continues after PSIV (I need to finish playing that...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif) or PSOIII. An online game would be nice and all, don't get me wrong, but I want a modern Phantasy Star RPG! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Guntz348]

There's been talk for a while now about all this, the new PS and PSO's that is. It's great to know that finally it will happen. The best rumor thats been out there for a while was that PS5 and PSO2 would be one game. An offline single player turn based RPG with the online game as well where your offline characters may or may not be usable online. It would be pretty cool either way.

I really would like to see a seperate PS5 and a non-story line related PSO2. If they took the worlds they made for PS5 and used them as the backdrop for the PSO2 game they could make a really huge game. If they keep it in the Algo system they can even have the ships interconnect the planets. I think I'd rather see PSO2 use algo, but not be an actual part of the story. This way you could use Palm and Rykross and the satalites with out worrying about upsetting the storyline. I have a feeling PS5 will try to tie PSO2 into the storyline(if and when both of them actually materalize that is), which would be nice but I think the storys are too seperate and should be kept that way. Just use the PS universe as a backdrop for the PSO games, but not tie them into the may storyline.

As far as the PD coming back, I would think it would be immpossible to totally destroy him. As long as evil and hatred burned in the hearts of men, there would be a PD somewhere. Maybe there was a being higher then the PD and the GL, that will try to destroy the universe this time around. The worst part will be sitting here and waiting for the details to trickle out =/

[Nisshoku]

HUnewearl Meira said:

Incorrect.

That video said "Phantasy Star Online 2?"

But it also said "Phantasy Star V?"

It was a teaser. It only confirmed that there is another Phantasy Star in the making. It confirmed nothing toward its nature.

Actually, there was no question mark after Phantasy Star On-line 2. There was however, after Phantasy Star V. Whichever it is, it could be either.

[Zaneatron]

thats probably because they wer part of the same sentance.

e.g.

Phantasy Star Online 2, Phantasy Star V?

[Arislan]

::quotes himself, since obviously noone bothered reading the last post of his::



Do note, that the other video from IGN that people are saying is proof that this is an Online game:

Both Phantasy Star Online 2 scrolls, then Phantasy Star V? scrolls immediately upwards after it. Still not proof either way. Like saying "Is it PSO2, or PSV?" We'll see when more info is released.


IGN doesn't know. They're extrapoling from that video. Lets wait for DATA as opposed to a simple video. If I could dig it up off another site, you should have seen the CONFIRMED things MGS2 would have after the first trailer.

[DeciBal]

for anyone who doesn't want to deal with gamespot, the video is posted here in 4 parts.

http://media.cube.ign.com/media/683/683211/vids_1.html

[HUnewearl_Meira]

It could also be considered that the "2" in Phantasy Star Online 2 was rammed up against the edge of the screen.

Sega's not confirmed anything regarding whether it's online or offline, in any case.

To look at the facts, all we've really got here is an announcement that Sonic Team is developing a product titled, "Phantasy Star Universe". There has been no announcement regarding what console(s) it will be released for, nor has there been any confirmation that it is an MMORPG, a Traditional RPG, or even an RPG at all. "Phantasy Star Online 2" and "Phantasy Star V" were tossed out to tease us, and get us buzzing.

So instead of running off on assumptions, let's wait for more actual news on the subject.

[Outrider]

Obviously Phantasy Star Universe is Sega's new kart racer.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-05-13 12:02, Outrider wrote:
Obviously Phantasy Star Universe is Sega's new kart racer.



I'm just saying we need to stop making assumptions.

We have a new Phantasy Star title in the works. That's really all we know. If it's to be an Online RPG or Offline RPG, we simply do not know. For what we know, it could be an Action/Adventure game.

[Robo47]

I certainly do hope that PSU is a Phantasy Star Five offline, but then when you play online you have PSO characters to play as in a different story!

Certainly our current consoles have more than enough RAM for two full 3-D adventure in one disk.

[Outrider]

On 2004-05-13 12:13, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:


On 2004-05-13 12:02, Outrider wrote:
Obviously Phantasy Star Universe is Sega's new kart racer.



I'm just saying we need to stop making assumptions.

We have a new Phantasy Star title in the works. That's really all we know. If it's to be an Online RPG or Offline RPG, we simply do not know. For what we know, it could be an Action/Adventure game.



True, but wouldn't it be a kick in the pants if it were a kart racer? The HUmar has his hoverboard, the HUnewm has his little jet bike, the girl with horns has a tiny version of her spaceship...

I'd better shut up before an ST rep comes by and decides he's discovered the next big game.

[Alielle]

I am squee-ing at the possibilities. Let's hope ST learns from the past...

[Para]

Hmm, characters look like... HUmar... FOnewearl... HUnewm... HUcaseal...

[LINX]

On 2004-05-13 09:01, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:


On 2004-05-13 06:53, LINX wrote:
It's an online action RPG. Confirmed.



Incorrect.

That video said "Phantasy Star Online 2?"

But it also said "Phantasy Star V?"

It was a teaser. It only confirmed that there is another Phantasy Star in the making. It confirmed nothing toward its nature.



Wrong, SEGA reps confirmed that it's online (not just to IGN):

"The only other concrete details we learned was that this is going to be an action MMORPG. Does this mean it'll be akin to Phantasy Star Online? Or, will it resemble Final Fantasy XI? All we know is that it's going to be a while before we find out -- especially since the trailer revealed 'just started...'"

http://cube.ign.com/articles/514/514715p1.html

Does anyone remember the rumours circulating a few moths ago (from EGM, IIRC), about the next Phantasy Star game including a detached offline game besides of the online part? Well, that would explain the mystereous quotes from the trailer about PSO2 and PS5.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-05-13 13:49, LINX wrote:
[Wrong, SEGA reps confirmed that it's online (not just to IGN):

"The only other concrete details we learned was that this is going to be an action MMORPG. Does this mean it'll be akin to Phantasy Star Online? Or, will it resemble Final Fantasy XI? All we know is that it's going to be a while before we find out -- especially since the trailer revealed 'just started...'"

http://cube.ign.com/articles/514/514715p1.html

Does anyone remember the rumours circulating a few moths ago (from EGM, IIRC), about the next Phantasy Star game including a detached offline game besides of the online part? Well, that would explain the mystereous quotes from the trailer about PSO2 and PS5.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.



I'm telling you that this particular writer at IGN is making assumptions based on the "Phantasy Star Online 2" that appeared in the teaser, alongside "Phantasy Star V?"

You have to take the things these guys say with a grain of salt, dude. In this industry, unless you have several different news sources saying the same thing, or an official press release from the company in question, you can't trust the information you get. Thus far, only IGN has made any sort of claim that this is definately an MMORPG. Gamespot does little more than say that it's a Phantasy Star game, and Gamespy makes absolutely no mention of it, whatsoever.

That very same article also says this--


IGNcube learned from Sega that this title is so far in the future that they aren't allowed to release any details.


Really, the vast majority of that article is speculation. Don't take it seriously.

For the record, the only MMORPG that Sega has confirmed, is The Matrix Online.



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[LINX]

Still...

"The only other concrete details we learned was that this is going to be an action MMORPG"

If they say that they got concrete details about it being online, I'm just gonna have to take their words on it.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-05-13 14:34, LINX wrote:
Still...

"The only other concrete details we learned was that this is going to be an action MMORPG"

If they say that they got concrete details about it being online, I'm just gonna have to take their words on it.



Get a second and third source before you go proclaiming it to the world. Despite that single sentence, it's only speculation. Aside from confirming the announcement, I'd say that this is the only real fact from the article, right here--



IGNcube learned from Sega that this title is so far in the future that they aren't allowed to release any details.

[landman]

If that's an offline game, it can't be PS5 bec in the video we can see Parma and Mothavia (suposedly), ehem, Parma... if that game is a new episode of Phantasy Star saga and this is Algo sistem that can only be a precuel of PS, a nexus between PSO and PS and I hope that game is a MMORPG like SWG, em, maybe a coincidence but, Phantasy Star UNIVERSE... Star Wars GALAXIES... maybe it's just my mind but, well, never mind, that's only my imagination ;P

[Skett]

Lets see, I'm guessing that it might just be a MMORPG because it would the be next logical step in the PSO series and IGN speculates it (These are experts, but I'm not saying its true. I trust IGN, ok? Little less bashing?)

One big thing is the characters shown. They were pretty generic. This can lead to two things: A) ST did not have enough time to create nice, original-looking characters for E3 or it will be the basic model that the player will improve on and create his own character (like the character creation in PSO).

Of course, this is my speculation and we will have to wait to see how close we all are. In my opinion, and as a online-loving gamer, I would love a PSO game in a traditional MMORPG design (the linear gameplay hurts my head).

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-05-13 15:50, Skett wrote:
Lets see, I'm guessing that it might just be a MMORPG because it would the be next logical step in the PSO series and IGN speculates it

Perhaps it might be for Phantsy Star Online but the same is not necessarily true for Phantasy Star as a whole. Quite frankly, PSO has been run into the ground, with one re-make after another. What the series hasn't seen in a good ten years or so, is a full-blown RPG. Going online was a logical step for the series several years ago, but for a couple of years now, there've been plenty of fans screaming for an offline adventure.

On the other hand, they've also seen declining sales due to repeated recycling of materials, so they may be responding by giving a totally new MMORPG.

The point is

We don't know. Seeing "Phantasy Star Online 2" along side "Phantasy Star V?" in a teaser video is not confirmation.

[kazuma56]

I this game(s) are anything like PSO's battle system, I hope they include an offline mode because I wouldn't want to go pay for a game that is strictly online because I would be missing out on the PS Saga.... although i'm still debating whether or not PSO ep.III is something I should invest in.

[Nash]

I would post it all again, but it's easier if you just check out my thread (now-locked, so can't continue the debate in there :-S)

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=82387&forum=9&25

Posted some screengrabs, scans, and analysis of the trailer, and would like to know people's thoughts. I'm pretty sure now that PSO Universe is PSO2, and possibly has a PSV-style 'proper' RPG for it's offline mode. With the switch to server-side saving they would have needed a replacement for the offline mode.

The addition of what looks like another of the 'missing' character-classes from the PSO Book Of Hunters, as happened with Episode I&II, was the clincher for me that PSU is PSO2.

http://www.blurtigo.freeserve.co.uk/otaku/BookOfHunters.jpg
http://www.blurtigo.freeserve.co.uk/otaku/PSU3.jpg


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[CGar683]

I believe that this game will be a game with a full offline story, as well as a PSO experience.

The Phantasy Star Universe website is now up, with a flash version of the E3 trailer. It is a bit cleaner, so details can be distinguished much easier.

What I found so far, looks like clear evidence of a possible PSO successor

This seems like clear evolution of a HUcast
http://home.comcast.net/~sonicwoo/HUcast.jpg

More rare hunting anyone?

http://home.comcast.net/~sonicwoo/rares.jpg



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[Outrider]

I'd like to point out for all of you who are convinced that the question mark after "Phantasy Star V" means it is most definitely an Online game, that the flash version clearly shows a question mark after "Phantasy Star Online 2" as well.

It is:

Phantasy Star Online 2?

Phantasy Star V?

Not that you guys should need to know that, as it's only a teaser anyway, but this should quiet down some of the naysayers.

[Nash]

"Let the next generation of gameS begin"

Plural! That confirms it for me, it's going to be both http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

http://phantasystaruniverse.com/image/psu_top.jpg

Anyone working on a translation?


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[Sayara]

I'll tell you one thing... If it is not related to PSO, im gonna have ta catch up with the original PS's!

Im Really Excited about this. Though the one Video from Gamespot Reminded me of a Movie rather a game. Hah wouldnt that be interesting..

Wow! Now im Excited!

________
INFANTS ZOLOFT (http://www.classactionsettlements.org/lawsuit/zoloft/)

[Nash]

Did anyone notice the weird duck-like character class from the Book Of Hunters in the flash intro?

Going to be funny to see them if they're in the game!

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[Nash]

I think PSOW is going to need to add a new section and forum soon!

This is the best news ever http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

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[VioletSkye]

On 2004-05-13 20:09, Nash wrote:
Did anyone notice the weird duck-like character class from the Book Of Hunters in the flash intro?

Going to be funny to see them if they're in the game!

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I slow-moed through the flash version twice and I didn't notice any duck looking class. I did see a class with demon tails though and what looks to be a Humarl.

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[Nash]

It's the white pencil drawing type one. It's only on screen for a little bit, but I'm sure it's the weird duck-type creature from the Book Of Hunters.

He's on page 53, the same page as:

http://www.blurtigo.freeserve.co.uk/otaku/BookOfHunters.jpg

Who also seems to be in the game.

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[VioletSkye]

Don't have the Book of Hunters so I wouldn't know http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Too bad it doesn't show the face on that pic.

[Nash]

I'll scan it later, and post it.

Sonic Team are such teases!

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-05-13 21:38, Nash wrote:
I'll scan it later, and post it.

Sonic Team are such teases!


that would be great thanx http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Arislan]

The translation of that would be
A beginning of a (new) legend.
.
Let's begin the next generation of RPG.
.
Next Generation RPG - Phantasy Star Online Universe - Hardware Not Yet Set (decided) - Date Not Set- Price Not Set

[Nash]

Thank for the translation!

Scanned my Book Of Hunters again. I think the duck-thing in the flash trailer might be a variation of this:

http://www.blurtigo.freeserve.co.uk/otaku/BookOfHunters2.jpg

And it is on the same page as the other one already in the game.

[Arislan]

A HUduckm? Odd. I've seen that design before, but I'm not sure exactly what it would be... Perhaps a continuation of Seed's work that created a more Monster -sided creature as opposed to Nei or Nei-first.

Anyone have a screencap of this weird creature from either trailer?

[VioletSkye]

The Flash intro has a different design for the back and it looks like a female. Is there a female version?

Here is a pic of the flash intro:

http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/mystrey.jpg


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[Nash]

http://www.blurtigo.freeserve.co.uk/otaku/BookOfHunters3.jpg

I'm still not sure what it is! :-S

[VioletSkye]

LOL, I posted the exact same thing at the same time http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Check the last post on page 5 lol.

[Arislan]

Looks like a back view of someone (no head in the pic) holding some large red thing in both hands, arms outstretched. Maybe some kind of glider or jetpack.

[Nash]

Heh! Great minds think alike http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

There's no female version of the duck shown, if I find anything else in the book which it could be I'll post it.

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[Outrider]

The pelican-type character was supposed to be one of the original sketches for the HUnewm.

At least, that's what I read on... Pioneer Alley, I believe.

[DeciBal]

On 2004-05-13 22:02, Nash wrote:
Thank for the translation!

Scanned my Book Of Hunters again. I think the duck-thing in the flash trailer might be a variation of this:

http://www.blurtigo.freeserve.co.uk/otaku/BookOfHunters2.jpg

And it is on the same page as the other one already in the game.



AAAHHHHHH!!!!!

It's Jar-Jar!!

[Rain_1]

I will say it again:

It seems pretty obvious to me that the game will be (or at least pretends to be) both a new PSO and a regular PS Storyline continuation.

Who, on their right mind (yes, I know were talking about sega afterall) would release a new game and say: "hey, it's PSO2? It's PSV? gee, we don't know..." to get both crowds lashing at each other just to say, a couple months later "oh, sorry PSO group, that was just to mess with you, it's actually a Offline only rpg" or the other way around?

It seems pretty clear to me that it's a Online game with a Story behind it. I'm not saying it's a link between pso and regular ps story, or whatever...

But that sure as hell look like the algo system (or something really similar to it). And the first character that appears on a ship is apparently returning to the planet (which looks like dezoris to me) from a time travel/great distance trip.

(crap, reading that makes me sound like i'm saying somebody is coming back from PSO to Algol system.. that's NOT what i meant)

But that's just me having delusions of a game that I actually WANT IT to be.

Oh yeah.. somebody said something about ingame pics? Well, there are apparently two! if you catch the IGN movies, the first one is something that was missing from the gamespot bit. It shows loads of pics (mostly artwork pics) but it also shows two animated sequences which kinda look like (to me at least) a hunter standing still and a ranger firing some weapon.
We should be able to get a better glimpse of it when the Direct Feed of the video shows up on phantasystaruniverse.com (which they say they will on the little popup window that.. well.. pops up).

[Nash]

Looking at this pic again, there's 5 or 6 planets. So what if PSU takes place on more than one planet? Not just Ragol like PSO. So in the online game, the ships (servers) would be around different planets. Travel to certain ships, to visit different planets and areas.

And that's why it's called Phantasy Star Universe? If so, that makes me think MMORPG for the online game. Imagine if they could add new planets, and therefore areas, to the servers http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

http://phantasystaruniverse.com/image/psu_top.jpg


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[Rain_1]

I don't see 5 to 6 planets on that pic
i see 3
the 3 on the background and the 3 on top of each other are actually the same 3..

frst three are background, the 3 on top of each other are part of the logo, apparently.

The main problem is: Didn't the algol system got butchered (aka, one of the planets exploded)?

also, i dont remember one of the planets in the algol system having rings. Maybe it's just something that looks like the algol system? ohhh so many doubts...

[Arislan]

Umm, 3 of the planets are the logo, and the pic in the background shows 3 planets. That doesn't mean 6 planets. I suppose server = planet may work, but that may not work with server architecture. If this is another MMORPG, more likely that the worl dwill jsut be a seamles unverse, and there won't be any real "connecting" to any given server/planet.

[Nash]

I think they are likely to still keep servers of some description because of the lobby/chat system. It's just the easiest way of managing a large community.

And hopping between ships, and people meeting in certain ones, is already such a part of PSO that it wouldn't be much of a jump for players to go between planets as well.

Can't think of any other reason for the use of Universe unless the game was going to take place over lots of planets.

[Rain_1]

The lobby system can be scratched if they want it. Look at any mmorpg out there.. there are no "lobbys" per say.. yes, there are cities.. but still..

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-05-13 22:02, Nash wrote:
Thank for the translation!

Scanned my Book Of Hunters again. I think the duck-thing in the flash trailer might be a variation of this:

http://www.blurtigo.freeserve.co.uk/otaku/BookOfHunters2.jpg

And it is on the same page as the other one already in the game.



It actually makes me think of a really skinny Motavian with white fur/feathers/whatever, instead of the normal blue.

But on the other hand, to be totally honest, I'm thinking that Sonic Team's original thought was to take the Newman race's history as genetically engineered beings, and have some fun coming up with new ideas, but eventually decided to scrap that thought, in favor of keeping the athletically-built look, with long, pointy ears.

I'm also supposing that the big dude that turned into a beast was some sort of Newman, as well, and mostly for that reason. Though I'm thinking that his transformation was likely more technological than biological, given the hex pattern associated with the transformation (give it a close look, you'll see what I mean).


And concerning the planets of Algol...

There were originally 4, though the 4th wasn't really discovered until PS4. In order, from closest to the sun to furthest out, was Motavia, Palma, Dezolis and Rykros. Sometime between PS1 and PS2, Palma and Motavia switched orbits (this is an event known as "The Conjunction"), and during the course of PS2, Palma was destroyed (the sattelite Gaira crashed into it). Motavia was nearly destroyed in PS4 (a huge rift into the Abyss was torn into its surface), but because of the actions of Chaz & co., the problem was, well, solved. Though it was still degrading. Dezolis, on the other hand, really didn't change very much at all, asside from the natives migrating from living underground to living on the surface. As far as Rykros is concerned... It has an extremely long, elliptical orbit, and only comes near the other planets once every thousand years. Furthermore, it can only be seen through the Aeroprism. Only spiritual beings live there. The purpose of the planet was to remind the natives of Algol, the Protectors, of what their purpose in being there was, in the seal's final hours.

In any case, it's quite possible that the three planets of PSU could be from Algol, but for it to work, those three planets would have to be Motavia, Dezolis and Rykros, but only because the ring around the middle planet would have to be the remains of Palma, seeing that originally, no planet in Algol had any rings.

[Balbarei]

On 2004-05-12 13:15, rena-ko wrote:
there was a rumour about phantasy star 5 for quite some time now.

i personally'd bet for an offline rpg. hopefully it hits cube as well as europe.



I also noted on gamespot i think

it will be online, but as i head a rumor before, single and online will be seperated on two discs!!

[Arislan]

Except that again, NO data has been confirmed. It is *all* speculation at this point, despite anything that IGN or Gamespot said. There's *nothing* to go off of but those two trailers and the site.

[Nash]

We know that, but there's a chance we won't find out any more news until the Tokyo Game Show in September. So we might as well just speculate away now, cos we could be in for a long wait for concrete information!

There's quite a bit already in my opinion to point to it being PSO2 , and nothing really to say that it's *not* PSO2. And think there's a very good chance that PSV is the offline game as well.

[Zaneatron]

This had kinda taken the shine off PSOBB now, hasnt it?

We were allg etting excited about it and so fourth, and now Sega drop this on us. its good and bad, kindof.

People will be buzzing about this for a while, and giving less attention to BB, but then again, it may make us even more PSO whorish than ever, making even more people get it.

I dunno, ST weave a tangled web. Im very excited by this, but it seems like in the end were going to be spoilt for choice on PS/PSO games, we'll have so many, we just wont know what to play http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Nash]

I doubt we will be seeing PSU until 2005 at the earliest anyway.

And I'm sure the new things introduced in BB, such as server-side saving and the team-registration thing, will be carried over into the next console PSO. So BB is going to be nice little taster for PSU http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[KodiaX987]

I don't know why the hell people are trying to make assumptions when the


TRAILER ITSELF DOESN'T KNOW WHETHER IS'S PSO-2 OR PSV!

Jesus of fuck, look at the trailer? They stuck both titles in the intro movie


WITH A QUESTION MARK NEXT TO 'EM!

What part of the questions mark don't you all understand?!

[Malkavian]

I speculate that it could jump to next generation. IGN said that the project is very far from completion. The fact that they only show a CG movie confirms it.
That makes it a late 2005, 2006 release the soonest.
The biggest inconvenience of online games in consoles is the generation jumps. Either in end of this or at beginning of the next is not the best moment for online games.

Well I better don't think more about it. With the little info we have is pointless anyways.

[Nash]

Read a few pages back in the thread, or my PSU=PSO2 thread. I've posted lots of things that suggest that it's atleast a new PSO game.

There's been nothing to suggest it's definitely *not* PSO. So that's enough for me to think it is until we hear more.

Also, Sega have never even talked about *either* game before now. You wouldn't just suddenly display the names of 2 eagerly anticipated games all of a sudden, and then bring out a game that disappoints either set of fans. Even Sega aren't that stupid. If it wasn't going to be PSO2 or PSV you just wouldn't mention them. It would also be common sense for Sonic Team to combine their Phantasy Star series into one game, and boost sales by appealing to all the PS fans out there, not just some of them. Sega talked about having a 'big' surprise at E3, well this is BIG!

PSU = PSO2 online + PSV offline

I'll be the first to eat my hat if I'm wrong, but so far no one has posted anything that proves this is *not* the case. I've pointed to quite a few things that suggests it *is*.

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[HUnewearl_Meira]

Eh... All I can say is... A PSDB member who's been working at E3 the last several years says, "Never trust marketing. They aren't the designers, but they're the ones who put together the trailers. If you're getting mixed signals and confused out of your mind, it's marketing's fault."

In other words, I believe she's saying that PSU is neither PSO2 nor PSV, but rather, they put those names in there just to hype us up about it.

Keep in mind that the ball's in the air at this point, and it can go in any direction. When more information comes out about this, we'll have a much better idea concerning what direction it's going in.


I might also comment...

It seems a little like Sega's shooting themselves in the foot, again, by saturating the market with their own products, very much like what they did with the Genesis, Sega CD, 32X and Saturn. It really kinda killed their market share, by spreading out their profits too thin. I fear that they may be doing this again with Phantasy Star games.

But... We'll just have to wait and see how it goes.

[VioletSkye]

I agree that saturation is bad, but this game is so far off, that it doesn't really fall into that category. I'm thinking the game is likely to be on one or more of the next generation of consoles (ie. GC2, XBox 2, PS3 or whatever they end up calling them.) It may even be a launch title for a next gen console. At this point, I personally don't think it will end up on any of the current consoles.

[Eclypse]

It's kind of pointless to even worry about this game because if ST stays true like it did with the other PSO games there will be delays, etc. All this talk of what it will be or what it won't be is just going to start mad rumors over and over similar to what was going on with the DC prior to it's launch only to have to game release and people be disappointed about something. I bet half of you will go thru 2 years of school before this game even see the light of day.

[ElizaBluefull]

I saw the trailer and nearly passed out. After reading the things of this thread, I won't be redundant. But as a FOmarl fanatic, I hope they have them this time! The graphics are amazing, and I will have to see more in the future. This looks incredible!

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-05-14 08:54, VioletSkye wrote:
At this point, I personally don't think it will end up on any of the current consoles.



I concur. The game is quite a distance off, and the dawn of the next generation is quickly approaching.

[Zaneatron]

Nintendo even have been quoted as wanting to release their next console, the "N5", in 2005 as well.

[Para]

As for anyone who hasn't noticed...

SEGA has updated their phantasy star universe page... their flash is very irritating for they put the lines of "Phantasy Star Online 2?" and "Phantasy Star V?"

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-05-14 11:30, Nites wrote:
As for anyone who hasn't noticed...

SEGA has updated their phantasy star universe page... their flash is very irritating for they put the lines of "Phantasy Star Online 2?" and "Phantasy Star V?"



That was in the trailer on IGN, as well; except that the camera cut off the "?" on "Phantasy Star Online 2" so speculation really got out of hand.

[Sharkyland]

June '05? 365+ more days! Sounds... rather close in a way, though... I'm worried.

[Outrider]

I hate to play the Devil's Advocate, but...

http://cube.ign.com/articles/515/515467p1.html?fromint=1

"What does this mean? We don't know. All details are based on pure speculation, a few hints from Sega, and inferences from the trailer. IGN was told that this game won't be released anytime soon. Platforms are undetermined. And, it will be an action MMORPG."

I don't know why, but IGN is dead-set on saying this is an MMORPG. However, there's still no concrete evidence to say that it is.

EDIT: Unless they're basing that statement purely on speculation. If that's the case, they definitely shouldn't present it as absolute fact.

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[RavenTW]

Possible outcomes:

PS5: A new PS. Detailed cutscenes support this theory.
PSO2: The true PSO sequal. Lets see how much stuff in that trailer WASN'T PSO-looking. New HUcast look, some new Hildebear, I think a saw a HUcaseal with some tail, etc., etc.
PSO MMO: This is a very farfetched idea. But the new logo, a chain of three planets, and the term "Universe", can be linked together with the idea of a continual PS universe, aka an MMORPG.
EDIT: And they got some Booma/HUnewm hybrid. Wouldn't mind playing as that, if it weren't for the brute-ness of it all.



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[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-05-14 14:22, Outrider wrote:
I don't know why, but IGN is dead-set on saying this is an MMORPG. However, there's still no concrete evidence to say that it is.

EDIT: Unless they're basing that statement purely on speculation. If that's the case, they definitely shouldn't present it as absolute fact.


Indeed. They admitted in that article that all the information they had came from speculation, hints and the teaser. Seeing that the teaser didn't confirm anything about the genre other than "RPG", the only thing they can possibly be getting this "MMORPG" idea from is the "Phantasy Star Online 2?" right at the beginning.

So effectively, it's proven that this particular writer for IGN was jumping to a conclusion, as I was saying from the beginning.

[punkasssss]

I just saw it, and the three planets certainly looked like they could be Palma, Motovia and Dezolis, and I certainly would like to see a solid conection between the stories on PSO and the old PS games, but I don't see how it could be, with it looking so futuristic and Palma having blown up in PS 2. Unless the events with Coral took place before PSO..... I think that's unlikely though.

[Outrider]

On 2004-05-14 15:34, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:


On 2004-05-14 14:22, Outrider wrote:
I don't know why, but IGN is dead-set on saying this is an MMORPG. However, there's still no concrete evidence to say that it is.

EDIT: Unless they're basing that statement purely on speculation. If that's the case, they definitely shouldn't present it as absolute fact.


Indeed. They admitted in that article that all the information they had came from speculation, hints and the teaser. Seeing that the teaser didn't confirm anything about the genre other than "RPG", the only thing they can possibly be getting this "MMORPG" idea from is the "Phantasy Star Online 2?" right at the beginning.

So effectively, it's proven that this particular writer for IGN was jumping to a conclusion, as I was saying from the beginning.



The thing is, they also claim to have hints from Sega reps. So, uh... is it possible they spoke with a rep who let it slip that it could possibly be an MMORPG? I dunno, it seems a little ridiculous, but it also seems like they wouldn't just go blatantly state something as fact if getting it purely from speculation.

[SpikeOtacon]

"There is current speculation about this current situation. I believe that speculation will continue to thrive until speculation ends." -George W. Bush.

[punkasssss]

bahahahaha

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-05-14 16:14, Outrider wrote:
The thing is, they also claim to have hints from Sega reps. So, uh... is it possible they spoke with a rep who let it slip that it could possibly be an MMORPG? I dunno, it seems a little ridiculous, but it also seems like they wouldn't just go blatantly state something as fact if getting it purely from speculation.



The problem with hints, is that they spawn any facts-- only more speculation. It's entirely possible that they may've spoken to someone working at the Sega booth, who said something that they interpetted as an indication that the game will be an MMORPG. Let's just remember that the only genre description that's been given to us is simply "RPG".

Still, there's a PSDB member who seems to know what the deal is, because she's represented her company at E3 for several years, and knows a few key people at the Sega booth, but out of professionalism, she's not willing to share any details. We'll just have to wait for more information.

[landman]

http://c.streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/515/515717/PhantasyStarUniverse_051404_01_wmvlow.wmv

Enjoy http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[googles]

Why isnt this news on the main page yet?

[Uncle_bob]

On 2004-05-14 17:15, googles wrote:
Why isnt this news on the main page yet?



Since it isn't confirmed to be PSO related, apparently they haven't seen any need to put it up on the main page.

[Outrider]

I wonder how many more times people are going to post the trailer thinking they've just introduced breaking news?

[DarthFomar]

All I have to say is..............?! Is this a Gamecube release.....or a Next-Gen release?!

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-05-14 17:42, DarthFomar wrote:
All I have to say is..............?! Is this a Gamecube release.....or a Next-Gen release?!


unknown.

[Kanore]

Methink's we are truly reentering that old solar system you old PSers talk about.

In PSO Ep1&2, I think I discovered that MUTT/Motavia = Red
DITTS/Denozlis = Green
POUMN/??? = Blue

They showed the colors of planets like that in the trailer...

Of course, I only joined the PS universe in Ep1&2 for the GC... I'm merely a small fry compared to those with PS experience.

[Bradicus]

Why is it that all of the characters shown in the trailer are so non-badass (save the "HUnewm" and HUcast)?

If it turns out to be a regualar RPG, I hope I don't need to be the wimpy little swordsman it seemed to feature >_>

[RavenTW]

Yeah, those costumes make it look like a more futuristic FFX. Except that HUnewm. I want that monster transformation thing!

[_Ted_]

On 2004-05-14 17:24, Outrider wrote:
I wonder how many more times people are going to post the trailer thinking they've just introduced breaking news?



Ha, I hadn't seen the full trailer yet so it was breaking news to me. Looks good though.

[RavenTW]

Actually, I did some surfing on IGN for PSU and MP2 and KOTOR2 almost right after I posted in this thread the first time. So it had just become old news.

[Orange_Coconut]

Actually, from the looks of it, and the reappearing characters, I am guessing that this is a set-character RPG sort-thing.

I am not sure though, obviously. Just a guess. I didn't really see anything that would suggest character creation, rather than those 5(?) heroes.

[CGar683]

I believe that this will feature a full offline story, as well as a rich online experience.

If you notice in the trailer, at the ending, it scrolls through about 6 to 8 characaters all facing the 3 headed dragon at once. Perhaps they expanded online part to more players now http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Nai_Calus]

On 2004-05-14 21:48, Orange_Coconut wrote:
Actually, from the looks of it, and the reappearing characters, I am guessing that this is a set-character RPG sort-thing.

I am not sure though, obviously. Just a guess. I didn't really see anything that would suggest character creation, rather than those 5(?) heroes.



You don't in Ep1&2 related things, either. >.>;;; They tend to use the default chars over and over again, which is why there's always an Ash clone named Sonic, etc. >.>;

Which proves absolutely nothing, but.

[RavenTW]

On 2004-05-14 17:59, ChibiWarrior wrote:
Methink's we are truly reentering that old solar system you old PSers talk about.

In PSO Ep1&2, I think I discovered that MUTT/Motavia = Red
DITTS/Denozlis = Green
POUMN/??? = Blue

They showed the colors of planets like that in the trailer...

Of course, I only joined the PS universe in Ep1&2 for the GC... I'm merely a small fry compared to those with PS experience.



Palma is green, Dezolis is blue. And there's so many different translations of them, half a dozen people will say I'm wrong.

I just hurt my head with a thought. What if the single player is a set-character RPG, and in the multiplayer, each time you enter a new game, you have to play as one of those set characters?


EDIT: oh yeah, VioletSky, how'd you pull off that new sig? I may need to try and make one myself.


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[-STE-]

Naka said it will be an online game.

And when asked for what console he replyed he dont know now.

[RavenTW]

Makes sense why it isn't on Sega.com's E3 list.

[Zaneatron]

cause it was their "Stealth" announcement.

[Twitch]

Everyone read this!

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/515/515473p1.html "The only other concrete details we learned was that this is going to be an action MMORPG." (key words: concrete details and action MMORPG)

So its going to be online for sure. I hope it changes from ep1&2 style to more of a giant world(s). In my opinion that would be the sweetest thing ever for PS.



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[Hrith]

I suggest you read the rest of the topic, Twitch, IGN's opinion has no weight whatsoever to me.

[MrPOW]

C'mon..."concrete." Meaning certain, for sure, definate, ect...lol. I think too many people here just don't want this game to be another online action RPG (why, I dunno). Everything from the character designs, to the flashes of various PSO-esque weapon designs, using old character designs from the book of hunters...it's common sense people. I don't exactly need any kind of offcial word to determine that this is infact the next installment in the PSO series. It's a little thing called "deductive reasoning." Sonic Team is making this game yet again, the same Sega dev that has worked on every previous installment in the series. In fact, they've never worked on any other type of PS game. Ever. I believe that if Sega were to decide to make a full-fledged traditional turn-based PS RPG, they'd hand it over to another developer, such as Overworks (who has merged into one of the other divisions now...don't remember which). Plus, in what appears to be very quick flashes of actual gameplay footage in the trailer, it most certainly look like real-time combat to me. My personal hope is that this is a true MMORPG, but retains the real-time combat found in the PSO games. That's just me...

[EJ]

Well all we know that it's going to be a Phantasy star game and the rest is speculation and sega have a habit to delay most games so I not getting my hopes up until sega or sonic team announce some details on the game

[Arislan]

Mr Pow, it's a CG trailer, no gameplay. You can't pull *any* kind of ideas from it as to how it may be an action game or not. If so, I would have thought Wild Arms and La Pucelle Tactics were both action/fighting games. CG does not a game make, unless you're playing Xenosaga.

As for IGN's CONCRETE proof, they had access to the same info we did over the course of E3, those two trailers. They don't know what group (other than ST, and that's pretty nebulous, since the whole team doesn't work on every game) is working on the game, so they can't ask anyone. Well, they can, but they won't get ann answer that can be taken as CONCRETE fact.

This is an example of poor journalism, and not analyzing facts brought into focus. There's no way to tell at this point, and with "PSO2? PSV?" both appearing in that trailer, it lends equal weight either way. My bet is that this "fact" came from re-watching that cropped trailer before posting the news, not seeing the ? after PSO2 like should be there, and drawing unwarranted conclusions.

And Ste-, Naka isn't a part of ST anymore. He wouldn't know anything about this project, other than the fact that it's in motion. So I doubt he said this.

[VioletSkye]

Actually on the Flash version, there are 2 areas that look like they probably are actual gameplay. If you stop the movie at a certain point, the embedded movie clip continues to play and it doesn't look CG. Its very hard to see unless you pause at the right moment.

The movie is protected from import so I haven't been able to extract it through normal means in Flash, however there are ways around that. I'll see if I can get just the embedded movie that shows what looks to be actual gameplay. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


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[Uncle_bob]

On 2004-05-15 16:35, VioletSkye wrote:
Actually on the Flash version, there are 2 areas that look like they probably are actual gameplay. If you stop the movie at a certain point, the embedded movie clip continues to play and it doesn't look CG. Its very hard to see unless you pause at the right moment.

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Hm, you mean the part where it's in the background, very faded and looks like the generic PSU Humar idling while holding a saber?

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-05-15 16:38, Uncle_bob wrote:


On 2004-05-15 16:35, VioletSkye wrote:
Actually on the Flash version, there are 2 areas that look like they probably are actual gameplay. If you stop the movie at a certain point, the embedded movie clip continues to play and it doesn't look CG. Its very hard to see unless you pause at the right moment.

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Hm, you mean the part where it's in the background, very faded and looks like the generic PSU Humar idling while holding a saber?


nope. The part where the humar looking char does a combo on a group of enemies.

Actually its not a combo its just one swing. I just noticed that. But like I said it doesn't look like CG and its the exact perspective that a playable char would have in regards to the camera.

The second embedded movie clip is hard to identify but it looks like either a tech or a weapon special being used. (I only say that because of the swirl of lights going on.)

Obviously I can't say for sure, bet if I were a bettin' man, I would bet the farm so to speak that it is actual gameplay footage.

BTW I'm NOT talking about teh obvious CG clip with the Humar and the Blue sword thats is cutting through enemis. That is undoubtedly part of the CG moive. The clip I am talking about is only in the flash version. and very brief unless you pause the clip. The Humar I'm talking about does not look like anyone in the CG clip.

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[Arislan]

Just watched the Flash movie in slo-mo, see what you mean, guess it could be possible that that's in-game. Still doesn't mean a thing in regards to whether or not the game is PSO or PSV though. 90% of the statement holds true.

Also note, there is nothing on which system it will be for, the web site itself states that the system is as yet undetermined.

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-05-15 17:06, Arislan wrote:
Just watched the Flash movie in slo-mo, see what you mean, guess it could be possible that that's in-game. Still doesn't mean a thing in regards to whether or not the game is PSO or PSV though. 90% of the statement holds true.

Also note, there is nothing on which system it will be for, the web site itself states that the system is as yet undetermined.


I agree its all speculation in regards to whether or not is PSO2 or PSV. I was simply making the point that it does look like there is actual gameplay footage in the clip and it looks very much like PSO style gameplay. As for the system/s, I still think its very possible we will see this on a next gen system.

I also noticed that the Saber animation is the exact same saber animation used in PSO.


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[VioletSkye]

i managed to extract all of the images that make up the flash version so I'll organize them and post a link to view them.

[RavenTW]

It's likely clips from Ep. 1&2. I highly doubt they could make some game footage when the game is THIS early in development.

[Uncle_bob]

On 2004-05-15 18:03, RavenTW wrote:
It's likely clips from Ep. 1&2. I highly doubt they could make some game footage when the game is THIS early in development.



You never know for sure, they may be farther ahead than we think.

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-05-15 18:03, RavenTW wrote:
It's likely clips from Ep. 1&2. I highly doubt they could make some game footage when the game is THIS early in development.


Uhhh I don't think so, considering it looks FAR better and has enemies that aren't even in ep1&2. If you actually looked for yourself, you would see it quite obviously is not from any previous games.



Ok, I have pics ready to go for whoever is interested.

**Note, these are not screen captures. These are the actual .bmp files taken straight from the actual Flash file, which means the quality is far better than what you see in the flash movie. BMP files were converted to jpeg by me.**

PSO UNIVERSE FLASH MOVIE PICS (http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/psou_pics/index.html)

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[Dhylec]

On 2004-05-15 19:00, VioletSkye wrote:

Ok, I have pics ready to go for whoever is interested.

**Note, these are not screen captures. These are the actual .bmp files taken straight from the actual Flash file, which means the quality is far better than what you see in the flash movie. BMP files were converted to jpeg by me.**

PSO UNIVERSE FLASH MOVIE PICS (http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/psou_pics/index.html)

hm.. hq images are indeed interesting
what do you use to extract them vs?

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-05-15 21:11, Dhylec wrote:


On 2004-05-15 19:00, VioletSkye wrote:

Ok, I have pics ready to go for whoever is interested.

**Note, these are not screen captures. These are the actual .bmp files taken straight from the actual Flash file, which means the quality is far better than what you see in the flash movie. BMP files were converted to jpeg by me.**

PSO UNIVERSE FLASH MOVIE PICS (http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/psou_pics/index.html)

hm.. hq images are indeed interesting
what do you use to extract them vs?



Well, I'm not sure I'm allowed to say since it required getting around the Import Protection that ST added to their Flash file lol http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[decswxaqz]

EDIT: someone beat me to it o_O that was quick. I only checked this topic a few minutes ago :S
Must have missed a page sorry.

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[RavenTW]

Please accept my humble and heartfelt apologies as I see that you were correct. It's blurry, but that definately ain't a horde of any creature I know of. Closest would be Gibbons, but they're too black.

Oh yeah, think you could enlarge that Dark Elf pic? I wanna better look at that.



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[Zaneatron]

heh, great work violet http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

and i'd also like to entertain the idea that ST are much further into this then theyre giving themselves credit for. weve just been stating how its a teaser trailer, and how you cant conclude anything from it, whos to say the "Just Started" is any more concrete that PSO2? and PSV? the poaint being is thay they arent.

by the looks of these pictures and screens, ST do appear to be further into this than we think, but then again, you could call it wishful thinking.

[MrPOW]

Great Pics. Now I can stop watching the flash over and over again trying to catch it all.

And now there's stills of the in-game footage I mentioned in my previous post, I say once more, looks alot like PSO to me.

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-05-16 06:15, RavenTW wrote:

Oh yeah, think you could enlarge that Dark Elf pic? I wanna better look at that.

If I make it much bigger than this, it loses alot of clarity and starts becoming really pixelated.

http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/darkelf2.jpg

[echo-2003]

Great Pics Violet, thank you kindly.

That one pic of the RAcaseal, it looks like she is wearing some kind of exo-skeleton? That would be a cool new class of weapons now wouldn't it?;)

[King_Rappy]

Looks like HUnewms can transform into beasts. That would explain the trailer, pictures, and HUrappy thing.

[Rain_1]

why the pics you took from the gameplay sequences are static, when they're clearly either a movie or a sequence of pictures inside the flashes?
where's that? i want to see that without all the fuzzyness and transparency. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Also.. if you use media player classic (god, and i hope you all do), you can easily see the sequences. Just use it to open the flash and stop at frames 1077 and 1280. And I swear to you that i can clearly see some sort of Aiming Ring in the animation at frame 1280.

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[VioletSkye]

On 2004-05-16 11:05, Rain_1 wrote:
why the pics you took from the gameplay sequences are static, when they're clearly either a movie or a sequence of pictures inside the flashes?
where's that? i want to see that without all the fuzzyness and transparency. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


I have no idea what you are asking lol.

The pics I posted are not fuzzy at all. I took the actual bmp images that they used to create the movie and posted them. The pictures that I posted that are blurry are already like that in the Flash movie and in fact the actual bmp file itself is fuzzy, so there isn't anything I can do about that, I'm simply using the pics ST added to the movie. So if ST uses a blurry pic, then thats all I have to work with.

BTW you apparently don't understand how flash movies are made. The images themselves ARE static. You use Flash to animate them. I extracted the static pics that ST used to make the movie and uploaded them for others to look at.

If you want to view the actual Flash movie than go to Sonic Team's website (http://www.sonicteam.com/index.html).


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[VioletSkye]

On the Chartorso2 pic, it looks like the char is wielding two weapons (one in each hand - a saber and maybe a gun.) I suppose it could be a guard of some sort, but it looks like he is actually grasping it. It would be cool if chars could go John Woo style and wield two weapons at once. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I was thinking it could also be like D2 in that you can easily switch between 2 weps on the fly. That way you don't need to bring up any menus to switch weapons.

Oh well, the game is obviously far enough off that it doesn't do any good to speculate about what-if's or could-be's. I'm usually pretty focused on pure facts so I need to stop analyzing the stills looking for info lol. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

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[Ness]

So is the game online or offline?

[VioletSkye]

Unfortunately, I haven't heard anything about that yet. I "hope" that it can be played both offline and online, but until more info from ST emerges, its all hoping and wishing lol http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Ness]

On 2004-05-16 11:50, VioletSkye wrote:
Unfortunately, I haven't heard anything about that yet. I "hope" that it can be played both offline and online, but until more info from ST emerges, its all hoping and wishing lol http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



It kind of makes you wonder how much we really know about this game.

[MrPOW]

Upon inspecting those pictures more, I noticed that alot of the character images are named after their familiar classes (e.g. HUcast, Humar, RAcaseal, ect.), lending to the specualtion that this is the next PSO game...although I also noticed that I couldn't find section IDs on any of the character images.

The whole "trasformation" thing seen in the trailer also appears like it will play pretty heavily into the game, as there are two other characters in those images that look to have alternate forms beside them. I don't know, just to guess, maybe it'll work something like photon blasts, where after you fill a certain meter all the way you can trigger a transformation which will make you more powerful for a limited ammount of time...or something. It also looks like newman type charcters are the only ones represented with alternate forms.



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[VioletSkye]

Disregard the titles for the pics I posted, I added those myself because there weren't any descriptions in the flash file I imported. The images were labled bmp, bmp1, bmp2 bmp3 and so on. So the names of the files I posted are not anything that ST did. Sorry about the confusion. I did the best I could considering how tired I was when I worked on it lol. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

here is a pic of how the static images were listed.

http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/project.jpg




On 2004-05-16 12:02, MrPOW wrote:

The whole "trasformation" thing seen in the trailer also appears like it will play pretty heavily into the game, as there are two other characters in those images that look to have alternate forms beside them. I don't know, just to guess, maybe it'll work something like photon blasts, where after you fill a certain meter all the way you can trigger a transformation which will make you more powerful for a limited ammount of time...or something. It also looks like newman type charcters are the only ones represented with alternate forms.

It might be interesting if transformation was actually a tech, like if you found a level 10 transform tech, your FO would transform for x amount of seconds (the higher the tech the longer it lasts and the more powerful it is.) That would be sweet to play a support FO but have the ability to transform into a hard hitting pimp for a short time and clobber some enemies melee style. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


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[Logical2u]

After slogging through 120 posts about assumptions, I have decided to make one or two or my own.

The video clearly shows several PSO -esque characters, some which I believe are multiples of 'the same class', showing possible character creation, which includes some new classes. Or at least outfits. (Check out the Dubwitch/Racaseal Or the three Hunters in blue. Like Flowen. Or the green casual HUmar with Ash hair). So this might show character creation possibilities.

The ship at the start. Looks vaguely like maybe one of the PSIII world ships? (I never saw one,) Or maybe Pioneer? A home or a means of transportation?

The video of melee combat. This would seem to indicate a more diablo-esque combat system, What with running around slaying things.

The title showcases 3 colors, planets, and circles. Green, Yellow, and Black/Blue. These were the distictive colors ST used to deferatiate between planets in PSI. Indicating Algol, Motavia, and Desorilis (sp?)? The scenes mostly show desert like areas and funny monsters.

The technology and people might indicate a Pre EP1, or a Pre PSII (TO THE WORLDSHIPS! AGH!) story line.

Unfortunately, a lack of multiple people might indicate a less team based game.

And the total investigation of the storylines indicate that EP1/2 is not the sequel to the worldships in PS1-IV, so this storyline will probably be one or the other.

BTW: This could be for one of the next generation consoles. Or online only. (Rebirth, Revolution, Next Generation, all seem to either be buzzwords for Online Gameplay or some of the next gen consoles.)

My 25 cents.

[Rain_1]

About the movie...

Actually, there's two scenes of ingame. And each of the scenes is actually a pseudo-movie. You posted only the first frame of both movies.

They're actually a 30 frame movie (One if made out of 8 and the other is made out of 7 images).

What i was saying is to be able to rip those frames as a video. I did manage to do that, but i lack any flash editing programs, so they're not centred in the visible area of the flash. You can, however, stretch the explorer window to be able to see the entire frames. The flashes are on the following url:

http://rain.00.free.fr/psu_flash/

[VioletSkye]

actually I did have both of those ripped 2 days ago. The site I linked to was just for the static image files. If you want I can clean up your files so that they are centered if you like.

yes I realize that the in game scenes were part of another embedded movie (i already stated that fact in a previous post.)



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[Rain_1]

Yes, i know you stated that they are movies, but I just read the last pages all over again and you didn't say you ripped them, nor made them avaliable, and that was exactly why I was asking for them.

After your reply, I just noticed it would be easier and faster for me to do it myself (after 1 minute of googleing) than to try to explain it to you. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Anyway, yeah, it would be nice if you'd fix them flashes to center them in the frame, as i only got a flash decompiler (hint hint) and not a flash editor.

Also, your sig gives me seizures and makes me want to kill you, change it! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

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[VioletSkye]

I'll just post the versions that I had extracted and place them both in a convenient zip file http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE (http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/gameplay.zip)


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[Rain_1]

Also, watching the Sprite 78.swf i ripped and gameplay1 from you, i'm not so sure that the hunter is alone.
On the first frames, you can't really see anything clear on his right side but a pink blur, but on the last frame, it looks (at least to me) a female character with long hair. Maybe he's not alone afterall.

To tell you the truth, after watching your flash, which allows me to resize, i'm very convinced that
there's 2 characters on that animation.

[VioletSkye]

Also notice that he swings the saber with 1 hand. In another one of my pics chartorso2.jpg, it shows what looks to be a humar wielding 2 weapons at once (a saber and a gun.) That would rock if we could switch weps on the fly http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

BTW I see now what you are saying THERE ARE 2 CHARS FIGHTING!!! (there is another girl in a pink outfit) So that tells us that its either a quest NPC or another char in a multiplayer game http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Rain_1]

I just though it would be nice to let you people know this.

Somebody pointed that this animation of ingame is only avaliable on the flash. That's not true.

The gamespot video is not the entire video. They missed the first bit (which is, actually, the exact same thing as the flash). IF you download the part1 of ign's splitted movie, you can see that part (it was avaliable at somebody's site here, all i remember is that it ended with a .it on the url.

Anyway, the full video (which i can't wait to be able to download the direct feed on the official site) shows not only those two animations (even tho they're faster and more transparent, making them harder to see) but yet another animation of a torso of a character holding either a saber or a slicer, while the camera pans around it. I can't really say if it's another ingame movie or some cg that's not present in the cg sequence afterwards, mostly because i don't know.

Actually, the animation i'm speaking of is where the chartorso2 pic comes from. The animation i'm talking about is not on the flash, only the pic from it is. If you people do download the part1 from ign, you can easily see the movie i'm talking, since it appears exactely after the words "A whole new game" show up.

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[VioletSkye]

On like the 4th frame of animation, it shows the girl in pink to be wielding what looks to be a green saber of some sort.

There are 3 chars in the gameplay footage. I'll post a pic of the pinkgirl, but if you look carefully at the flash file you can see another char that looks to be in front of the Humar looking char. You can clearly see the 3rd char swinging a weapon.

Girl in pink. (You can kind of make out the 3rd char in this pic also.)
http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/pinkgirl.jpg


BTW you are right. On the full version of the video, it does show a walking version of the chartorso2 file. Too bad it wasn't included in the Flash file http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

In fact there are quite a few differences between the full video version of the flash file and the actual flash file on ST's site.

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[Rain_1]

I can't really see that third char. What i see is the monster in front of the hunter being tossed away. I do see a blur of what looks like a human-like creature FACING the hunter, but i believe that's just noise from the heavly compressed/blurred movie and the monter movement on the air. I could be wrong tho.. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Also, that hunter can't be using only one hand to do that attack, unless he's spinning along with it. You can see the attack starts from left to right, then it spins behind his back, and he faces forward again. I can't really say that he's spinning along or chancing hands, but he would have to be spinning to be using only one hand.

[VioletSkye]

The third char is there. If you look at one of the frames you can see her (i think its a her) leg. Also she is standing there before any of the monsters gets knocked backwards.

Also I'm pretty sure the saber is swung with 1 arm. It is possible, I just did the exact same animation with pole and it was easy to do. Look at the humars left arm in the last few frames. You can see that it is at his side and not in contact with the saber.

Look at frames 2 and 3, you can see that the Humar did swing it around in a circle. You can see on frame 3 that the purple energy thing that follows the sword is continuing from frame 2 in a complete circle. If you go frame by frame you see he swings with 1 arm only http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif


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[Rain_1]

I odn't really see the charater itself, but i see things that could confirm a thind character. If you watch the pink girl in frames 4, 5 and 6, you'll see that she swings her saber-kinda weapon and creates a green arch above her head. The hunter is not using a green weapon, he's using a purple weapon, and he attacks BEFORE the pink girl.

You can see the exact same green arch in front of the hunter. I can't really see anybody using a saber there, but the arch is there.

Also, on frames 6 and 7, on the left side of the hunter, you can see a brownish arm-looking thing, with a fist at the bottom. It could very well be a character using a brown suit in front of the hunter. On frame 8, it kinda vanishes, but there's still traces of it (because of the bad encoding). Looking at it while typing, it could be the hunter's own hand, but it's nto clear enough. Maybe he's using a long range sword-kinda type AND a saber?

BUT, also watching, i see on frame 2 a HEAD! It's behind the hunter, on his right side. It's wearing some sort of red clothes and white stuff around it's neck. It appears to be bald. Is that the char you're talking?

Since it appears briefly (as in only in one frame), it could be something, like the hand of the hunter, but i don't really believe a hunter would have such a big hand, and with white/red stuff (since his clothes are blue). Could be anything tho. I still think it looks like another char. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


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[VioletSkye]

On 2004-05-16 18:06, Rain_1 wrote:
I odn't really see the charater itself, but i see things that could confirm a thind character. If you watch the pink girl in frames 4, 5 and 6, you'll see that she swings her saber-kinda weapon and creates a green arch above her head. The hunter is not using a green weapon, he's using a purple weapon, and he attacks BEFORE the pink girl.

You can see the exact same green arch in front of the hunter. I can't really see anybody using a saber there, but the arch is there.

Also, on frames 6 and 7, on the left side of the hunter, you can see a brownish arm-looking thing, with a fist at the bottom. It could very well be a character using a brown suit in front of the hunter. On frame 8, it kinda vanishes, but there's still traces of it (because of the bad encoding). Looking at it while typing, it could be the hunter's own hand, but it's nto clear enough. Maybe he's using a long range sword-kinda type AND a saber?

BUT, also watching, i see on frame 2 a HEAD! It's behind the hunter, on his right side. It's wearing some sort of red clothes and white stuff around it's neck. It appears to be bald. Is that the char you're talking?

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Thats not the char I'm talking about, however I see that, that could also be a char. Its entirely possible there are 4 chars in this brief scene. The char i was referring to is difficult to see, but is standing in front of the humar. I can't get a descent still to show the char though. You can only really tell by watching the animation of it. it looks like anotehr female char with white hair, also as you mentioned the green arch doesn't come from the humar or the girl in pink and because it also appears in front of the humar, I'm sure there is a char there. But now I'm wondering about the possible 4th char. I can clearly see him in frame 2 http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Also notice in frame 1 there is a bit of white energy behind the humar (like you would see from a weapon) that wasn't caused by the humar.

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[Rain_1]

Ok, so we have 2 characters (confirmed), possibly 4, Universe as it's title, a class from The Book Of Hunters, in the CGs, and "A Whole new game" and "a whole new world" (anybody remembers the PSO Theme called.. uhh.. a whole new world? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) as catch-on phrases.

How this is NOT a online game? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Just to let everyone know, the direct feed videos are now avaliable at http://phantasystaruniverse.com

they're streaming. But that's not a problem. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

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[VioletSkye]

heh, like I said before, if I was a bettin' man, I'd bet the farm that this is definitely an online game. The second clip looks as though there is a crosshair in the middle of it (kinda like the snapshot view in PSO.) Obviously ST made sure the quality of the game footage, but there is enough that can be taken from what we have so far to suggest that this is indeed online and if its online than its possible to make the logical deduction that it is PSO 2.

[Getintothegame]

Seems like they updated the page a tad, now has videos and the news has been updated.



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[Rain_1]

The news only mentions the addition of the videos.

http://phantasystaruniverse.com/whats.html for the news html (so you can babelfish/excite it)

I just watched it and it is, indeed, the exact same video as played on e3. The ? is there on phantasy star online 2. I just wish the resolution was a little better, 320x240 sux.. oh well.. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Kalbelgarion]

If that green planet isn't Palma, and that sandy planet isn't Motavia, I'll eat my hat.

Palma, PSIII (http://cyborgcentral.dynip.com/~pd/images/ps_gall/palm3.gif)
Palma, PSU (http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/psou_pics/pages/planet2.html)

Motavia, PSIV (http://cyborgcentral.dynip.com/~pd/images/ps_gall/mota3.gif)
Motavia, PSU (http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/psou_pics/pages/planet.html)

[Rain_1]

I agree with taht aswell... hell, the blue planet even reflects stuff and the force in it uses ice-magic...

I just have one little problem.. motavia doesn't have rings!

Still, that's not a problem. It's a Online game with a story that is part of the Phantasy Star Storyline (at least that's what i believe it will be).. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Kalbelgarion]

I was thinking that the blue planet--with the ice and the industrial-looking complexes--could be Dezolis during its Laconia strip-mining days (pre-PSII).

The Motavian astroid belt could just be an artistic flourish...but, plot-wise, the only way I can think of Motavia aquiring an astroid belt is if this game is post PSIV, and it's picked up the remains of Palma. Which means that the green planet can't be Palma.

Boy, isn't this speculating a blast? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[VioletSkye]

i managed to rip the stream from ST's site so I can go over it slowly in Premiere and see if I notice anything new from the clearer video. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Kurosawa]

It's almost gotta be a prequel. Those planets look too much like the Algol system planets to not be them. It's either a prequel, or set between PS I and PS II.

[Rain_1]

I know this isn't much.. well, atually, it's nothing at all...
but gamefaqs is listing a release date for psu.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/data/920823.html

Phantasy Star Universe Sega 06/01/05 NA

Note: I know this is begging, and i also know the mods will prolly eat me alive for that... but IGN has a new 640x480 version of the trailer up.
http://media.cube.ign.com/media/683/683211/vids_1.html
any insiders out there want to share it? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


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[VioletSkye]

Thats weird because i ripped the actual full version stream from ST's site (psu_pr_500.asf) and the file is only 13MB large. BTW the rip I have is the 500Kbps 320x240 movie.

[Rain_1]

I know.. i donwloaded it aswell. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

The 640x480 version on IGN is their version of the movie... but it's at a higher resolution! It might be better for us to find more details on the small blurred animations and etc..

Thus, I really want it! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[VioletSkye]

I found the location of the file, i just can't get it lol. Also I noticed in the CG portion where the Hucaseal looking char and the Hucast looking char are fighting, that shes using one weapon, then does a backflip and whips out a gun in the other hand. Thats yet another example of chars wielding 2 weapons at a time. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

BTW the gun looks exactly like the gun that the Humar is carrying in the chartorso2 pic. Both have it in their left hand. (its the reddish gun.) http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



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[Nash]

I'm so excited about PSU! Really didn't think we were going to get another Phantasy Star this quick, let alone a PSO2! And it's looking more and more like we are http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Well done on grabbing the stuff from the flash trailer!

Don't know if you've seen this, but on http://www.gamefront.de there's a news item saying PSU is coming Summer 2005 on PS2 (!) And has a tiny pic to back it up. I'm a bit skeptical though, because 1) Can't see Sonic Team abandoning their entire PSO base for no reason and 2) The pic looks dodgy.

It's taken from an angle, which suggests a digicam pic at E3. But in which case wouldn't the other sites picked up on it? Also, if you look closesly at the bottom, I think you can just make out the top of the Japanese text from the big PSU pic on the site. So think there might have been a bit of photoshop going on.

Whatever system it's on though, I MUST have it!

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[VioletSkye]

I believe even ST has said that they themselves are not sure what console/s it will be on. So I wouldn't put any faith into that picture http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

This week I will be doing some hardcore analyzing of the video to see if I can extract any more info. I really do think it is PSO2, but there are going to be naysayers who disagree, so I guess time will tell. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Nash]

Cool, will look forward to reading any new things you find.

And my gut-feeling has always said this was PSO2. Just hope they go server-side saving this time, and turn the offline game into a fuly-fledged RPG. We'd then have all the Phantasy Star fans under one roof again http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[-STE-]

I think that pic is a fake..

PS2 lol : PPPP

[Butoden]

ST isn't sure? That's funny. It'll be funny if they would release it for PC!
But seriously, I think this PSU is going to be for the X-Box 2, PS 3 and Nintendo Revolution, like they said: Next generation of games. It might be a remake of one of the earlier releases Phantasy Star Games! Because it says REBIRTH!! They said the same thing when Resident Evil was remade for GameCube!

Next up, if I may steal some piccies(Im sure it's OK). I just wanna give my comments on this...
http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/psou_pics/images/hucast.jpg
HUcast? It looks different, with those tentacle thingies and colors it might be a FOcast! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/psou_pics/images/newchar.jpg
A lightblue catlike creature with a human face? It looks like that cat from PS 1!!
http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/psou_pics/images/object.jpg
This one says object, but it looks like a Delbiter to me! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I cant leave this out..

http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/psou_pics/images/weapons.jpg
On the left, a solo dagger! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Woah! Then those 'slicers', maybe you shoot off the top which hits the opponent, like a fan, thats why they show a smaller version of the top next to it? Maybe?

Couldn't it be true that you would create a character on Palma or those other 2 planets and follow the storyline of Phantasy Star 1 (hence the 'Rebirth')...

[Arislan]

What? 4 projections above the shoulders, and suddenly it's a FOcast? Huh?

That looks nothing like Myau, although it could be a Newman based on Musk Cat DNA. Possibly the tranform for that given Newman. (Personally, I hate the idea of transforms in the game, but it loosk like they'll be in...)

As for following PS1's storyline, not likely, given that with Generation 1, they've redone the storyline anyway. I'm agreeing with Rain here, looks like a pre PSII setting to me, or else Psot PSIV and that's Rykros as the blue planet.

And yes, I'm agreeing that that shot is fake. Magic-box reported Famitsu reporting it, but no sources listed. I highly doubt Famitsu alone managed to get the scoop above and beyond any other magazine or website, and that *only* one single German online site happened to see a pic of Universe with that quote. This is on top of the official site stating that it's undecided system-wise. We'll see, but until I see an official thing tossed up by Sega, I'm not buying.

[Zaneatron]

Yes, that pic did seem somewhat edited. i didnt find it at first, cause there was a new article on it closer to the top about PSU, but it had Multi by it.
i did find it eventually http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif and it sure smells of fakeness. infact if you look closely, you can see what appears to be a rectangular background to the PS2 text.

in my opinion, the current pecking order is as follows:
GameCube/N5
Xbox/Xbox 2
PS2/PS3

the GC has an established fan base for PSO, also with PS1-3 on GB
XB also has somewhat of an established fan base.
PS2 is thin on the ground, it may have best sales for all the consoles on Sega games, but GC has more in proportion to actual number of consoles sold.

And violet, theres a PM for you on housaka, i guess you can try and block me on there now, your choice.

[Butoden]

N5? Nonono, they'll name it Nintendo Revolution =)

And I was just guessing away with the FOcast, don't get mad http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Zaneatron]

N5 is an abbreviation as it were. im not typing out Nintendo Revolution everytime im refering to the N5.
Your just getting this revolution crap off of what Satoru Itiwa (whatev) said, yes he said revolution, but did not refer to the name of the console, but that Nintedo were starting a revolution. I have known it as the N5 for a while, and therefore it will stay that way until we have an official name.

[DruidMettool]

URGENT NEWS: PLATFORM ANNOUNCED TODAY

According to the-magicbox.com...

- Famitsu reported that Sega Sonic Team's newly announced online RPG Phantasy Star Universe will be coming to PlayStation 2 in summer 2005.

Do you guys realize how expensive it is to get your PS2 online?

This is not good (for some)

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[Rain_1]

Even tho the magic box said that (as they're a trustable news source, at least for me), i don't really believe that.

I really do believe that the game is well into production (and not JUST STARTED... as the ingame pics kinda reveal), but i also believe it will be multiplataform.. hell, with pso success, it would be dumb not to... but with the recent phantasy star generation released on ps2, i could see that.

Still, i believe it won't be a single plataform game.. I sure as hell don't want it to be!
Like somebody else said, i won't believe until i see it on http://phantasystaruniverse.com

[Nash]

I haven't played the earlier games, because I never had a Megadrive or Master System. But is there any evidence to suggest this is a prequel to PSO that links PSIV to the PSO series?

Because that would make it as much PSV as PSO2, which would explain both games being mentioned in the trailer.

[Rain_1]

There's one interesting, at least, fact that i don't think it has been brough up here.

The nuwmans (numans) didn't really exist (other than nei and some other i don't remember) until after ps3, after palma was destroyed. In the clip, we see a lot of newmans, which makes it post ps3, but we also see 3 planets resembling the algol system, which would make it pre ps2...

So, more facts to spice this up.. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Oh, those are just some facts i picked up yesterday night (while this board thread wasn't getting replies) out of the phantasy-star.net forums. If anybody has a bigger knowledge about the games (since i onply played ps1 and pso), a word would be greatly appreciated.. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Zaneatron]

i might have misunderstood something here, but i just checked the Famitsu website, it didnt say anythign about this being on any console let alone PS2?

[Rain_1]

On 2004-05-17 09:30, Nash wrote:
I haven't played the earlier games, because I never had a Megadrive or Master System. But is there any evidence to suggest this is a prequel to PSO that links PSIV to the PSO series?

Because that would make it as much PSV as PSO2, which would explain both games being mentioned in the trailer.


There's one big problem in PSIV. It has 4 different endings. I never played it, but that makes it hard to speculate.
Also, about PSO's past, all we know is that they all came from Coral, what we believe is a advanced post/colonization point from Palma. We don't really know anything but that, not even where PSO takes place in Phantasy Star timeline. I personally think PSO takes place after PS IV, but there also information from sega personal that say that PSO is not tied with the Phantasy Star story at all, which pretty much indicates that the PSO story is just a "what if" section of the Phantasy Star Universe (oh wait, i shouldn't have used that) Storyline.

That's mostly why I believe PSU will be a new game in the Phantasy Star storyline (either a sequel or a prequel) with the PSO style of gameplay, but not connected to PSO's story (specially because Sonic Team informed us that PSO Ep.III would be the last game of the Ragol Story arch). That way, Sonic Team will be able to make both crowds happy. A new true Phantasy Star Game, for those who want psIV, with a PSO feeling to it. Hence, the mention of both wanted games (PSV and PSO2) in the teaser video.

Edit: about the famitsu site, only MagicBox (which is a nice site, but usually spreads rumours as facts) and that dutch site released that information. The difference is that magic box said famitsu confirmed, while the dutch site used a probably fake photo to prove it. I would discard both affirmations, as the official site didn't mention anything.

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[Jools]

These are the facts:

1. The video shows multiple characters working together. This means you either control an entire party in the game or it has a coperative multiplayer mode. Given PSO's history, the 2nd is much more likely, strongly suggesting an online mode.

2. Nash has pointed out that the big creature character from the video is a character class that was "left over" from PSO, as detailed by the Japanese book of hunters illustrations.

3. In a recent interview with Edge magazine, the Sammy boss (who now control Sega) stated that PSO was his favourite sega game, stating how groundbreaking and important the game was. This definitely increases the chances of a PSO follow up (which this new game would appear to be).

4. The game has only just begun development. This means it wont be seeing a release until about 2 years time. This opens the possibility of it being released on a next gen machine. Adding further to this speculation is ST's secrecy over its format. Format secrecy is very unusual in the video game industry, further suggesting the possibility that the game is being developed for a format that doesn't exist yet.

There we go people, those are the facts as I see them. Based on this, it would appear that it is the continuation of PSO on a next gen machine. If only those 2 years or so would go by a little quicker, aye?

-Jools

[Nash]

Agreed, although I don't think the game has just begun development. Sonic Team have been pretty quiet really. Astro Boy was done by Ex-UGA people, and Episode III always struck me as a spin-off (admittedly a very well done and polished spin-off), rather than something that was the main focus of the PSO team. The possible gameplay clips also point to it being *alot* further along than just started, as does all the bits of artwork. And that CG trailer must have been in the works for quite a while http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

I think the reason for no platform being announced may be to do with Nintendo's mystery peripheral which they decided not to show at E3 at the last minute. Rumour is that the peripheral is a Wi-Fi/hard-drive add-on for Gamecube. If PSU is more MMOPRG than previous PSO's, then that would require a hard-drive really. They can't say that's what it is though until Nintendo reveal the add-on? Another rumour is that Nintendo are resurrecting Spaceworld in Japan in August to unveil the add-on. And what better game to show-off the new peripheral than Phantasy Star Universe? So we might not have to wait until TGS for more PSU information http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

My take on the 'next-generation RPG' thing, is that PSU is going to be a fully online ARPG (possibly MMORPG), with a proper story-driven RPG offline mode. With both games tied together, and possibly sharing story/characters/weapons etc.

That would be pretty ground-breaking in my books.

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[Rain_1]

My personal feeling about this is that the game has been in production for longer than we know, little tidbits of ingame footage kinda shows you that (sonic team is very sneaky, they wanted it to be something like "we just started it! don't expect much in the near future!" yet, added hidden ingame footage...). With that in mind, i don't see a problem for it to be released next year (2005) for any given console (my personal bet... all 3).
Yes, the nintendo exposition thing will more likely show a litte more of PSU. If indeed what nintendo is releasing is that hard drive thingie you just told us about... one more thing to make it playsible for an all console launch. As xbox and ps2, the do have hds built in.


I don't see why a mmorpg would need a HD tho. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


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[RavenTW]

On 2004-05-17 13:10, Rain_1 wrote:
My personal feeling about this is that the game has been in production for longer than we know, little tidbits of ingame footage kinda shows you that (sonic team is very sneaky, they wanted it to be something like "we just started it! don't expect much in the near future!" yet, added hidden ingame footage...). With that in mind, i don't see a problem for it to be released next year (2005) for any given console (my personal bet... all 3).
Yes, the nintendo exposition thing will more likely show a litte more of PSU. If indeed what nintendo is releasing is that hard drive thingie you just told us about... one more thing to make it playsible for an all console launch. As xbox and ps2, the do have hds built in.


I don't see why a mmorpg would need a HD tho. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


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FFXI did, didn't it? And I agree with you on how developed this game really is.



On 2004-05-17 03:00, Butoden wrote:
http://s88143030.onlinehome.us/psou_pics/images/newchar.jpg
A lightblue catlike creature with a human face? It looks like that cat from PS 1!!


Um, no. Not yellow, no wings from eating nuts, not micro-small. I'm betting it's another Newman transformation. But it looks more like a female than the others. This gives more support to the MMO idea, as they probably wouldn't give that transformation aspect to previous Newman classes unless they made some balance for the Humans and Androids. Instead, we could have human, Newman, and Android races, with Hunter, Ranger, Force, and maybe even more classes. This would also allows us more customization than in the original PSO, as you could focus on Race/gender specific options, and not options that only that specific class wear.

But I could be getting ahead of myself. I think we're all excited over this.

[Nash]

When I think about a MMORPG, I think persistant world. And with a persistant world, the world can be changed/added to with downloads. The easiest way to implement that is with a hard-drive.

Also, I expected the next PSO to go broadband only. There's no point in limiting the gameplay possibilities in order to support dial-up anymore. So if it's broadband, that means the possibilities of bigger quests etc. to download, again making a hard-drive a good thing to have.

[Para]

Seriously... having the new PSU on ps2 is practically betrayal to us PSO fans on the GC who have supported PSO on the GC for years. I don't understand why SEGA would even think about releasing it on the PS2 since there's many RPGs they would have to compete with. Also that pirated games becomes an issue and SEGA can lose sales.

[Arislan]

I could see it being on PS2, but not without being on another console at all. It would be hurting Sega's Sales, deserting the fanbase on both systems... All around not good. It could happen, and would fit with Sega's horrible horrible marketing MO. I just don't see it happening though.

[Kalbelgarion]

Well, with Sonic Team releasing their first PS2 game recently (Sonic Heroes), I wouldn't be surprised if this game appeared on that console.

Of course, if I had to guess, I would say that PSU will come out for all three consoles, if it's released this generation. Sonic Team's no dummy (usually), and they've had moderate success with their multi-console releases (Like Sonic Heroes, PSOepI&II).

[Jools]

Two points:

1. If it comes out on all 3 present systems, it will be limited to the flaws of all three systems while simultaneously not being able to take advantage of the unique merits of these systems. If its a MMORPG, with players from all 3 systems playing together, this will be particularly apparant.

2. The video does clearly show four players working together. This does suggest a return to the PSO style four player gaming and not the (potentially) epic multi-player scale of a MMORPG.

-Jools

[Cheeky]

Can't say if it's online or not yet, but judging from the high res video thats streamed on the official website(not the flash movie), the game will definately take place on multiple planets, and some char classes will have the ability to transform into beastmen of some sort(timed ability perhaps).

[Cheeky]

More on the movie,

It would appear that only a certain char class, hailing from the saturn-like planet will have the beastman ability..a male and a female. The planet that resembles a gyroscope would seem to be the more technologically advanced of the rest, and the other planet with no exterior features would seem to be the home of magic or tech using folk, perhaps a planet of treehuggers? Oh and lastly it looks like the enemy is attempting to invade the whole solar system, so it's time for the races to unite their strengths.

[Zaneatron]

The "beastman" as you so dubbed him ia a HUnewman. and they have been united for some period of time whichever way you look at it from the PS series (PS1) onwards.

[Cheeky]

The "beastman" I refered to was when the "Hunewm" is in his "beast" mode http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Zaneatron]

then surely he is still a HUnewman, just in transformed form, i dont see him changing races, i see him becoming more badass.

[Guntz348]

On 2004-05-18 08:33, Zaneatron wrote:
The "beastman" as you so dubbed him ia a HUnewman. and they have been united for some period of time whichever way you look at it from the PS series (PS1) onwards.



Well in PS1 through PSIV the "beastmen" would be Motovians. These are the big hairy natives of the planet Motovia.

http://www.phantasy-star.net/art/chars/gryz.gif
http://www.phantasy-star.net/art/screenshots/psiv/end-gryz.gif

That's gryz from PSIV, the motovians were in PS II and IV and Im pretty sure they were in PSI. I don't remeber them being in PSIII at all though, simply because the world ships that fled Palma had no Motovians on it. Since space travel was banned there was no way there, and even if it werent, they had no means to get there anyways.

The Motovians are a bit less rugged then the beastman pictures but it could very easily be a HuMoto or something. Hmmm I think I'd wanna play a FOdezo that could be pretty fun ^_^

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On the subject of the beast man, and any other oddities we've seen...

Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe Sonic Team is introducing new races, and that perhaps, the existing PSO naming convention will not necessarily be used?

For what we can confirm, the beast man could be called a HUbeast, or a Boobinomicon.

[Outrider]

On 2004-05-18 13:53, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:
a Boobinomicon.



I am SO getting one of those.

[RavenTW]

Just for the heck of it, I cropped some PSOW-friendly avatars from that concept art. Didn't know whether to put it here, or in Fan Works, since it's not really fan-created. Anyway, here ya go.

http://www.boxhumper.com/files/beast2.jpg

http://www.boxhumper.com/files/bluesaber_a.jpg

http://www.boxhumper.com/files/bluesaber_b.jpg

http://www.boxhumper.com/files/characters_a.jpg

http://www.boxhumper.com/files/characters_b.jpg

http://www.boxhumper.com/files/dragon.jpg

http://www.boxhumper.com/files/hucast2.jpg

http://www.boxhumper.com/files/humar.jpg

http://www.boxhumper.com/files/monster2.jpg

http://www.boxhumper.com/files/racaseal.jpg

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[Denny]

Don't you think that if it was Phantasy Star 5 that Sonic Team would use the same font from when Reiko Kodama was in charge of the series? The one with the gold lettering and sharp letters.

Since Universe is using the Episode 1 and 2 font, maybe universe takes place after the events in Episode 3. Coral is still around during the Episode 3 storyline, so it's obvious the planet isn't as bad off as the government made it sound.

-speculation time-

We all know that Microsoft has had problems getting Japanese RPGs for their system. With Xbox Next rumored to be ready to come out in 2005, do you think that Microsoft, once again, went to Sonic Team (like they did for Episode 1 and 2) and asked to have something prepared for the early days of Xbox 2? Yuji Naka did mention that if Microsoft would have given Sonic Team more time, more things could have went into the Xbox version of Episode 1 and 2. Sonic Team would have more than enough time to work on the game if it is indeed planned to come out on Xbox Next.

In looking at the direction PSO BB is headed in (server side saving, team registrations, etc), wasn't Xbox Live recently upgraded to handle things of this nature?

Was True Fantasy Live even at E3? Don't you find it odd that a game that is more into development and was being pushed by Microsoft doesn't show, but the teaser vid for the next chapter in the PS series comes up out of nowhere? Would it be wise to release a time consuming game like True Fantasy Live on Xbox 1 when Xbox Next is right around the corner? Could Microsoft have learned from the shortcomings of the Xbox 1 and have started getting things lined up for Xbox Next? They just allowed publishers to have more control over the Live! servers, so maybe, just maybe Universe will see a release on Xbox Next.

[Gogetah]

Sonic Team seems to be making a lot of PS2 games lately. Puyo Puyo Fever for PS2 came out earlier this year in Japan, and Astro Boy amd Sonic Mega Collection+ were at E3.

I'm both very worried and very excited about PSU. I just want to see a good, FULL game, with a story that is obviously consistent with the Phantasy Star universe (no pun intended).

-Gogetah

[kazuma56]

maybe, but seeing as TFO will most likely stay in japan, maybe MS thought it didn't make sense to show the game, also, I don't think that any new system will be released in 2005, seeing as nothing was shown at E3, and Sony and Nintendo have already been working on 2 Portable game consoles, so PS3 and N5 are out of the question next year IMO, X-box next doesn't seem likely either seeing as they haven't shown nor said anything about it sonce a few monthes back.

[Uncle_bob]

Interesting.

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/UncleBob/military.jpg

See the arrows? They're pointing at what Uncle believes to be heavy artillery, I.E. tanks.

You can clearly see the gun barrel and tank treads on them. This leaves Uncle to believe that:

1. The three planets are attacking eachother or are being attacked from space by something, thus the large cannons pointing to the sky.

2. Hunters and the military have joined together to fight whatever they're fighting.

Very interesting. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



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