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Liquid_Bacon
06-02-2004, 01:58 PM
I have been saying for months that PSOX was going to die an early death because of cheating, but even I didn't predict that the death would come so soon. It seems almost ironic how Sonic Team lets the console versions of their games die even before the much-hyped PC version hits store shelves.

Here is a prime example of how bad things have become. Almost every day, I see new, level 1 players log on. They go to Apatite (the first ship, like Vega and Oberon. Basically the shit-hole of PSO) of course. The first thing they usually say is "Hey everyone, I just got this game, can anyone tell me how to play it?", or something along those lines. My response is usually something like "Honestly, I would suggest playing offline by yourself until about level 5 or 10, so you can get the basics down. The last thing you want is some idiot giving you a hacked Mag and a J-Sword and thereby ruining PSO for you." This response is of course subject to numerous sneers and jeers in which different idiots tell the new player things like "Hacking is part of PSO; it's what makes the game fun." or "There's nothing wrong with hacking, it's not like Sega enforces the Terms of Service anyway."

Ten or fifteen minutes later, I almost always see these new players spamming the lobby with "NE1 GOT HACKED MAG AND JSWORD FREE?" At this point, there is nothing else I can do; they have been sucked into the 'dark side', robbed of the chance to ever really understand and enjoy the great game that we all love. My parting remark is usually something like "Well, I tried. Enjoy that J-Sword and enjoy PSO while it lasts, because for you it won't last long."

What I mean by this is that because of the cheating, new players come and go extremely quickly. A new player logs on, some idiot gives them all kinds of hacks, they max all or most of their stats by level 80, and they soon stop playing because they realize that there is no longer a point. Leveling is pointless because it's not like they're getting any stronger. Looking for items? Yeah right! They already have all of the best items in the game. Why would they? So they quit PSO. Nice 2 month run, wasn't it? Sucks that you never got to see what PSO was all about, buddy!

A poster here on PSOW once said that they thought PSO's ESRB "Teen" rating was not because of the blood and killing, but because of the level of maturity and intelligence needed to really understand PSO. They commented that a good understanding was critical to really experiencing PSO. And they're right. However, every day I see more and more examples of cheating contributing the the general stupidity of the PSO population. We've gotten into how most cheaters don't know how to raise their own mags, do photon blast combos, do Challenge mode, do Battle mode, etc before, so I won't right now. I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words right now, but I think everyone who understands PSO and plays PSOX knows what I'm getting at here. I guess what hurts me the most is the fact that if all of these new players had gone to a different ship, and talked to a real player, they would have had a chance to play PSO the way it was meant to be played. Every one of them had that chance. A chance to enjoy, to understand, maybe even to love the great experience that is PSO. But no. They were, and continually are, robbed of this chance. They didn't chose to help ruin the trading economy. They didn't choose to contribute to the general stupidity of the PSO population. They didn't chose to never become skilled at the game, or not to experience its many facets. They were robbed. Fuck the cheaters. Fuck 'em!

PSO today is the saying "A few bad apples can ruin anything for everyone else" exemplified.

Aaaargh!

anwserman
06-02-2004, 02:05 PM
I hear ya brother. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
I'm not sure whether or not I should start playing PSOX again. I mean, it is summertime and summertime means outside, but I've took a long enough break.

Whether or not I actually join is another question though, ack. However, I do have to admit that cheating was one of the reasons why I quit. I might not be uber-legit, but legit enough (I traded 10 rares I found for a Megid 30 disk, shoot me. Heck, I found two Anti-7s though!) and I love guiding newbies in the world of PSO.

Hehe, you speak the truth my dear Canadian friend.

Uncle_bob
06-02-2004, 02:09 PM
On 2004-06-02 11:58, Liquid_Bacon wrote:

PSO today is the saying "A few shitload of bad apples can ruin anything for everyone else" exemplified.



Fixed that for you. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Ness
06-02-2004, 02:15 PM
People are just now figuring out what many of us have known all along.

Liquid_Bacon
06-02-2004, 02:20 PM
...

Or, you could read the very first sentence of my topic.

Firocket1690
06-02-2004, 02:42 PM
Welcome to the world of online gaming.
I don't see any online game that doesn't contain a few "bad apples" When you do, tell me. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

DruidMettool
06-02-2004, 02:50 PM
You could've simplified this topic by changing it to "XBOX is on it's last legs - you can see it now."

Any given XBOX online game is the console equivilant to CounterStrike

navci
06-02-2004, 03:20 PM
Well this is on Cube, but on a similar line.
I went back on I and II after 3 months of not playing, I randomly went to Vega, and heard a bunch of people talking. One of them said "This game is too difficult, you can't play it without a cheating device."
Then someone else (level 200) said "Right on!"...

And the conversation went on with that direction.

anwserman
06-02-2004, 03:23 PM
On 2004-06-02 13:20, navi wrote:
Well this is on Cube, but on a similar line.
I went back on I and II after 3 months of not playing, I randomly went to Vega, and heard a bunch of people talking. One of them said "This game is too difficult, you can't play it without a cheating device."
Then someone else (level 200) said "Right on!"...

And the conversation went on with that direction.



What lamers, who blame the game for using it as a reason for cheating. Of course the game is hard if YOU DON'T PLAY IT CORRECTLY.

KodiaX987
06-02-2004, 04:50 PM
DC version. Rares are a bitch to find. Stats have a max. You can only get to Level 100.

I beat Dark Falz on V-Hard.





With a fucking Varista.

Come on.

Para
06-02-2004, 05:31 PM
On 2004-06-02 14:50, KodiaX987 wrote:
DC version. Rares are a bitch to find. Stats have a max. You can only get to Level 100.

I beat Dark Falz on V-Hard.





With a fucking Varista.

Come on.


Im sure u are referring to v1?

Mixfortune
06-02-2004, 05:40 PM
On 2004-06-02 14:50, KodiaX987 wrote:
DC version.
[...]
I beat Dark Falz on V-Hard.

KodiaX987
06-02-2004, 08:18 PM
Mixfortune 0wned it best. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

DC version wasn't so easy anyways. Even on V-Hard you had to watch yourself. I did die a few stupid deaths here and there. But all in all, the game wasn't a pain in the ass to get through. I even played the GC version with War_Child, and though the job wasn't easy for me since it was my first time, we nevertheless got to see Olga Flow. We were too low-leveled to finish him up but hey, we got to him. On Ultimate. And it was my first time playing the GC version. I didn't even know what a Sinow Zoa was but after encountering my first group, I sure as hell had a plan for taclking the next ones.

Let's point out Maddox's article on Ikaruga. Gamers have turned into pussies. Most of these pussies are little kids who haven't played the games we played. Remember?

-Hellfire
-Truxton
-Altered Beast
-Golden Axe
-R-Type
-Soldiers of Fortune
-Jurrassic Park
-Alex Kidd
-Roadblasters
-Double Dragon
-Battletoads
-Strider
-Stargate
-Thunder Force
-Metroid

We didn't have easy games back then. We had to play it a shitload of times to perfect our technique and beat it. We died more times than we completed the game. Now it's the exact opposite. The only games from that golden easy-to-learn-tough-to-master era that I know of are Ikaruga and the Mega Man Zero series.

Ness
06-02-2004, 08:59 PM
Actaully, I find all the old games easier than the new ones.

DarthFomar
06-02-2004, 09:04 PM
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

I don't play xbox-live nor do I play my gamecube online. The only games I really play online are pc games....and it will probably always be that way for me, until a system can actually have a good keyboard & mouse that games are actually compatible with.

I understand though that the xbox version has tons of ActionReplay/HackedXbox users on it. *disapprove:
*sounds very fun, yeah. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Kuea
06-02-2004, 09:08 PM
On 2004-06-02 14:50, KodiaX987 wrote:
DC version. Rares are a bitch to find. Stats have a max. You can only get to Level 100.

I beat Dark Falz on V-Hard.





With a fucking Varista.

Come on.


I had a varista on the GC as well

I only had that and a crush bullet