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[anwserman]

Aw, it is a rant about dieting! Who would have thought, anwserman has a major change in his life and his insight into losing weight.

First and foremost... if I'm hungry and I say I am hungry, do not fucking tempt me with a big ice-cream cone or a big juicy hamburger. Because you know what, not only will I feel guilty for eating said tempting object, the dieter's goal for losing weight on a daily basis is shot. Plus, the next time I see you - and you tempt me again - I'll take my fist and shove it so far back into your damn throat that your teeth will cut into your stomach causing obscene number of bleeding ulcers. Or, at the least, I'll bitch and get irritated.

Second of all... I'm losing this weight for myself. Do not sit there and try to tell me to stop losing weight and that I look fine. I have a goal to reach, and I'll proudly annouce when I hit that goal. Unless methods used to achieve said goal, or goal itself is threatening to my health, BE QUIET. Do not say, "You look fine! Stop losing weight." because you know what, I don't give a damn about what you say.

Third... Do not be a fucking hypocrite and harass me for dieting when you're obscenely overweight and will die from a heartattack when you're walking over to the fridge for your Pepsi and your third bag of Doritoes. Say, you weigh almost 300 pounds and are about 5'9" or 5'10", don't tell me my fat-free chicken patty with squash and beans will kill me, its YOUR FUCKING FRIED FOOD THAT WILL KILL YOU. Anything has the potential to be muscle you tell me? Not if you let it form gobules of fat istead! And don't tell me this shit when I'm at work, because if I bitch at you for such stupid comments I'll get fired!

Fourth... My average calorie count a day is about 900 calories. That is divided up four ways... three meals and a snack. Yes, that equates to three meals of 250 calories each and a 150 calorie snack. Throw in that I walk for a good two hours a day and lift weights two to three days a week, I'm always hungry. See point one. I'll kill you if you tempt me. Or I'll make another point, those large french fries you're eating right now takes up my calorie count for the two meals AND the snack. I kid you not. Losing weight is a full-time job.

As a matter of fact, I'm hungry right now. But I can't eat. So please, help someone who is dieting. Because it is as hard as hell.

[Solstis]

That's some serious dieting, man.

Supposedly, a drink of water is perfect for reducing such cravings for food.

I just try to cut some food out, or eat less at meals, but never have I seriously tried to diet.

:/

[Myopathy]

I have the utmost respect for you for what youa re trying to achieve. That sort of commitment is hard to find within oneself.



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[InfernoNR7]

Wow, that's a major diet, I wish I had the restraint that you do, and I'd be 150 pounds, not 180...... How tall are you anyways? I'm 6'.

[Aredhel]

Keep it up.

Don't get discouraged by the weight factor either. When someone begins diet and exercise, it's common for them to not lose much actual poundage at first. Rather, the exercise is compensating for the fat loss by adding muscle mass which is (obviously) much healthier than fat...mass http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Try chewing sugar-free gum and take up the martial arts or yoga or something. Meditate more and focus on truly become healthier, not just losing weight (that's just a staus sort of thing, not something your subconscious will truly crave...like enlightenment and improved physiological well-being http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif )

All in all, don't torture yourself with the privation of life's needs. Treat yourself with a big bacon classic every once in a while and replace energies you have towards hunger with those of jogging or even just napping, meditating, all-in-all relaxing. Remember that any mere sitting position is pretty much bad for you so why not do some light stretches while watching TV at night? Just live every day to it's fullest by not only eating healty, but living healthy. I'm not one of those 'always smile and think happy thoughts kind of people' either, just live your life separated from depression and hunger - you deserve so much better and you know it.

Aredhel - PSOW's Tony Robbins

[Shammed]

*dangles the following:*

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'Mmm, it's fun eating whatever you want minus the normally typical weight-gaining consequences.

[War_Child]

Third... Do not be a fucking hypocrite and harass me for dieting when you're obscenely overweight and will die from a heartattack when you're walking over to the fridge for your Pepsi and your third bag of Doritoes. Say, you weigh almost 300 pounds and are about 5'9" or 5'10", don't tell me my fat-free chicken patty with squash and beans will kill me, its YOUR FUCKING FRIED FOOD THAT WILL KILL YOU.

Can you catch the double standard here? I'm not allowed to bitch about your diet, but you're allowed to bitch at me for not eating like an athelete? >.> Eat smart, exercise, die anyway. If the fat doesn't get you, many other things will http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

And don't tell me this shit when I'm at work, because if I bitch at you for such stupid comments I'll get fired!

Just a heads up, but as the one at the job, it's part of your job NOT TO BITCH AT THE CUSTOMER. If you mouth off and get fired, it's your own fucking fault. Again, just a heads up there.

Fourth... My average calorie count a day is about 900 calories.

The recommended calorie intake is about 2,200. See this is what people call undereating and by undereating, you fuck yourself over. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif The reason you are always hungry is because YOU ARE STARVING YOURSELF IN AN UNHEALTHY FASHION AND YOUR BODY IS TELLING YOU TO SMARTEN THE FUCK UP. ^_^ By the way, random threats != cool.

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[Myopathy]

On 2004-07-03 22:09, Shammed wrote:
*dangles the following:*

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'Mmm, it's fun eating whatever you want minus the normally typical weight-gaining consequences.


*slap*

[Kadavreski]

On 2004-07-03 22:09, Shammed wrote:
*dangles the following:*

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'Mmm, it's fun eating whatever you want minus the normally typical weight-gaining consequences.



thats actually mean...do you have any kindness at all?

[Nai_Calus]

War_Child has a point, there. What you're doing isn't any healthier than that third bag of doritos you're screaming about. You're not eating enough to maintain yourself with nothing but bedrest, the hell with actually doing things. Being fat isn't healthy, but being anorexic isn't either, and you sound almost borderline on that. I'd be worried more about being healthy than about what the scale says, if I were you. Can you get up a flight of stairs without feeling winded? Can you run a couple of blocks without having to stop gasping for a breather? Do you fit into cars? Then you're fine and perfectly healthy, regardless of what the ridiculous height-weight charts say. O_o;

[Kadavreski]

coudnt have said it better myself...

anorexics has absoullutey no point to it.

[Armok]

Best diet I found is. Never go food shopping that way you never have food in the house so are not gonna eat even if you are hungry. Plus the water thing is totally true it stops hunger. Plus a better diet would be to eat as much as you want and unstead just do 10 mile runs 3 times a week at the gym. Weights don't do much but break a few muscle fibres. You should as the expert at the gym for advince on what you should eat and do. Being hungry all the time can attually cause your body to start eating itself if your not careful don't overdo it.

[Ness]

Eating less is not always a good thing. Eating so little causes your body to go into "survival mode." This means that you metabolism slows down in order to make stored food last longer. That's why so many people gain all their weight back after the stop a diet like that.


Of course, since you exercise, you are gaining muscle and that means there will be something there to keep your metabolism up and consume all the extra calories when/if you go off your diet.

[anwserman]

OK, just to clarify.

I'm not anorexic. I've researched the topic mildy. I do eat, but don't think that I starve myself. As a matter of fact, if you want an example of me eating at my cousin's wedding - this was what I had for breakfast one morning. (Note: this was just breakfast.)

2.5 donuts
PBJ
Toast with PB and J
OJ

That was breakfast.
Lunch involved eating tons of pizza (tons on my part) and dinner was a Snickers blizzard from DQ. I do eat, and I actually gained weight from that excursion. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Rant point #3 I created because of an actual PERSON who did that, one of my newest coworkers. He is like 5'10", weighs around 300 and actually DID tell me that my health food will kill me and said that everything is potential muscle, among other things, at work where his aunt is our manager where I could get fired if I snapped at his stupidness. He has his own deepfryer and bought a package of cheese nuggets and chicken strips for his own use at home. That is like a 5+ pound bag of chicken strips and 300 cheese nuggets per bag he bought! Gah.

I'm done for a while, this thread anyway.
Goes upstairs to munch on honey-nut muffin made from last night.

[darthsaber9x9]

i agree with most people saying you dont really eat enough. its WHAT you eat and WHEN you eat it.

have less (bad) fats and less processed carbs( white bread, pasta etc). eat more protein(fish, chicken etc).
and WATER, drink WATER, as many goddam litres a day as you can manage! not many people seem to realise but them sodas you keep pulling out the fridge? thats what making you fat(that last sentence not particularly directed at anwserman)

anyway ive seen before/after pics of the guy and hes doing well, but theres an easier way!

i know a good site for nutrition information etc etc, so if any of you(especially anwserman) want it, pm/aim/msn me

[Rainbowlemon]

My diet and routine:

1. I eat fish 4 times a week. Not only is there reduced fat than other meats, it provides essential vitamins, and is very healthy.

2. I don't eat breakfast. This is indeed very "unhealthy", but I find that if I don't have breakfast, it leaves room for an ample lunch. It has also got me into the habit of eating less - I am far from anorexic, but the reduction in the food I eat in general helps to keep me slimmer.

3. I don't ever snack. Crisps (or "chips") and chocolate are the bane of weight gain - their calorie content is not significant, but that little bit extra a day counts for a lot.

4. I drink lots of water. After ever hour and a half or so, I have another cup or two. fresh skin, good mineral supply, and reduces lipid absorption.

5. I am an obsessive swimmer. The choice of exercise is entirely your preference, but in order to burn off the fat (Which, IMO, is much more efficient than dieting, although indeed a harder route for people with a low metabolism), you must exercise. I prefer swimming, because it has no strain on the muscles, works all areas of the body at once, and because I love the feel of the water rushing past when burn a length front crawl ^_^

By no means whatsoever take these points as guidelines, they are simply statements of my routine, of which I am happy with and felt I'd like to share with others.

[navci]

I heard of one thing that would help... if you break your 3 meals and a snack into even smaller but yet more frequent in-take of food it might help the hunger better since you are kinda more or less eating frequently. Just in really tiny amount.

... Am I making sense? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[anwserman]

On 2004-07-05 11:39, navi wrote:
I heard of one thing that would help... if you break your 3 meals and a snack into even smaller but yet more frequent in-take of food it might help the hunger better since you are kinda more or less eating frequently. Just in really tiny amount.

... Am I making sense? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



Translated: Eating more often with smaller portions is better for you then eating less often with bigger portions.

[navci]

You got my point. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif And it works.

[Shammed]

Then your diet must be more fucked up than I imagined it to be if it's as inconsistent as beans/squash one day, pizza and ice cream the next. Unless you just brought that fat little story up because it was a rare binge time when you excused it by claiming the wedding a special occasion.
(Some dieters; special occasion- n. [speh-shul o-kay-shun] - a time where it's completely okay to feed teh fat face.)

[noob-of-fury]

I can also point out the fact that losing weight should not be a job or any sort of full time work. If you're doing it for yourself then let yourself enjoy it. I've been trying to lose weight for a while and I'm doing it slowly but I'm having a good time with it. Just eat less, exercise a bit and carry out a good regimine of DDR and exercises (push-ups and crunches) works awesome for me. Make it so you can still enjoy things around you and the food you like.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

Yeah I've been through this all myself very recently.

I've recently been eating much more than usual, having been almost starving myself for hours on end then eat a little and get tired out.
The facts are out there.

Water is your friend.
Eat more often but less(can be double edged sword, can eat too much, because you are eating more snack sized items for many more calories).

Treat yourself whenever possible to something you enjoy and don't fret to burn it off.

Also the "healthier you are, the more atrractive you are", I read recently in some newspaper insert mag USA/Parade something.

And healthy is not just a weight for a height, but also being able to be happy with who you are and how you look.

Yeah facts. Facts are cool.
Don't have to learn everything the "hard way".

[darthsaber9x9]

its not about eating less so much as eating differently.

if you just eat less of the same food, youll create a mini version of you. you need to eat less crap and counterbalance that with good food.

and reduce the amount of processed carbs in the evening and anytime apart from after exercising and after waking up. the carbs increase fat storage

[Nazo]

Darth made a good biological mention of your situation... let me add a bit myself.


*Note- these are rhetorical questions, not to be answered- think of it as a health pamphlet you pick up at your local drugstore... k? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Don't start getting personal on me.


First, how overweight are you? There's a system the American Health Cross uses, but I'm not exceptionally familiar with it... it measures the proportion of your average food intake for a month, your height, and, of course, your weight. If its nothing serious, go ahead with your program with the advice of those like navi. My sister had a similar problem, and she had to go to a therapist because she overdid her diet. If you're a bit more on the heavier side, make sure that you have faith in this system and that you'll make out of this alive.

Another thing I want to mention. When I took the Red Cross test in Ninth grade (so about three motnhs ago), I was considered slightly overweight (look in the latest picture in the RL sticky in Off Topic... you'll understand). Not quite fat, but much of an average Joe either. But one of my tutors, a Texan mt. climber, told me this... I asked why I had suddenly started gaining a bit more fat after I'd damaged my wrist and had stopped playing tennis- I'd start eating less! His response:


Its not about how much you don't eat- its how much you eat and exercise. Since [I] play tennis for about three hours every other day, you're burning thousands of calories per week. But [I] have a big stomach too *points to my stomach*... you need to figure out you're proportion of your average food intake and your exercise...

That's when I realized just how much fat I was burning. So the moral in that little flashback, is that you should consider an intensive sports- that would include: tennis/squash of course, swimming, biking, hiking, or intense cycling (I would say Mt. climbing, but that's a bit unrealistic)... Swimming and tennis burn the most calories of all sports; 20 cal/16 cal per minute, respectively. That's more than a speed 12 minute run on a treadmill. Not only that, but continuous practice of the sport in fact allows you to feel less hungry after exercise, and allows you to eat more! Comprehende?


Not that I'm saying these ideas are great... just my tidbit of help!

[Aunt_Betty]

Auntie leaves every like 5 min for water. Put they are small portions of it. I like fruit so.... I am a water frieak.

[Evil_Althena8]

Heh, I just started my diet this monday. I'm trying to drink only water, although when I'm not at home it's tempting to just go for a pop or something at a restaurant. I actually bought DDR for aerobic excercise cuz it's awesome. Burns more calories than jogging. I usually eat between 800~1800 calories a day, which is ok I guess. I'm trying to get it around low 1000s. Starvation is a bad thing. Your body needs fuel to help burn the fat!