RAmar using a partisan?

[BrokenHope]

Ok i was looking at the new pictures in the weapon database on http://hey.to/pso

on there 2nd page theres a picture of a Glaive a partisan type and what looks like a RAmar using it. I wonder if it's trial only or if partisans are no longer hunter only

[GhoStar]

I wouldn't be suprised if that was the case. They've re-worked the classes and what weapons they can use.

Also in the trial Spread Needles are RAmar-only.

[Sojo]

I've seen a Hunewearl use a Rabbit stick.

I thought those were force-only weapons, but she was using it! No codes either...

[rbf2000]

On 2002-06-07 08:39, GhoStar wrote:

Also in the trial Spread Needles are RAmar-only.

That just made my day

[Last_Saiyan]

I think this specification will be better because it's dull seeing a weapon on every class.

[TeamPhalanx]

needles RAmar only? This is unacceptable...

[Parn]

Why? I imagine there will be plenty of class specific weaponry to look forward to.

Spread Needle being RAmar-only just means they got stuck with one of the oldest and ugliest pieces of crap to grace the Phantasy Star universe. I'm sure they all will feel really proud wielding their Nerf crossbows.

I'm content. Specifically that hunters aren't allowed to touch them now. Stupid-ass HUmars using spread needles... play a ranger you retards.

Look forward to something exclusive and new for every class. Maybe multiple items exclusive to each class.

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[TeamPhalanx]

I could care less about the spread needle, it's the s-rank needle that I'm concerned about. Like it or not, it's the best weapon in v2, and almost a must if you either want to quickly reach lv 200 or do well at lower lvs.

[Ouroboros]

Spread Needles - Ranger only?

Good god, I need this game.

[saffaya]

Needle - RAmar only ?
I wanna sing Halleluia !!

On 2002-06-07 14:43, TeamPhalanx wrote:
I could care less about the spread needle, it's the s-rank needle that I'm concerned about. Like it or not, it's the best weapon in v2, and almost a must if you either want to quickly reach lv 200 or do well at lower lvs.

S-Rank needle is ridiculously over-powerful.
+200 atp above S-Shot and fires twice as fast, usable by hunters.
But don't be sad. almost everything got a revamp, including stages and monsters stats.
There is no certainty whatsoever that you'll really need the s-rank needle in GC PSO.



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[GhoStar]

If ST re-work Challenge mode and add new rares to EI & II then S-Rank Needles may no longer be that worthy.

[Balthor]

FINALLY! I dont care if the needle is RAmar only.....its good though because i got sick of seeing those ugly spikey haired humars always using that blasted thing....ugh.....and partisans to?wow RAmar is my fav class.but now i have more reasons to love em!*hugs his future ramars memory card* http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Parn]

On 2002-06-07 14:43, TeamPhalanx wrote:
I could care less about the spread needle, it's the s-rank needle that I'm concerned about. Like it or not, it's the best weapon in v2, and almost a must if you either want to quickly reach lv 200 or do well at lower lvs.


You mean you /COULDN'T/ care less. And, it is most certainly NOT the best weapon in V2, since S Ranks don't come with %s. Most of us did just fine without touching a spread needle. At least I would like to think so.

What's the hurry to level up to 200 anyways? You wouldn't want to be dubbed a cheater, now would you? *rimshot*

[TeamPhalanx]

I *could* care less in that I'm not at the depth of me not caring.

Sorry, but for us non-cheaters, we do consider the s-rank needle to be the best weapon, 0% or not. Of course, I'm sure many of you would argue that your 180% needle is the best, but, that's your thing, not mine.

[segadrm]

i think in the trail they made RAmar stronger than what he is in v2.

[TeamPhalanx]

Damn it, all these improvements for RAmar. Where are the HUnewearl and FOrce upgrades?

[segadrm]

they should make upgrades for RAmar they made RAmars in v2 so bad it isnt funny. and in C-mode nobody wants them. so they be improvements on RAmars.

[TeamPhalanx]

I won't argue that RAmars suck in c-mode, but I'm not so sure about them being bad in v2. Offline, isn't a RAmar (using s/d & j/z) better than either RAcaseal or RAcast?

[Ziggy-san]

Spread needles. *sigh* I've had a bad history with those things. Ruined my only HUmar...well, at least this time around I won't be tempted. Ookyoo for being legit! ^^

[Crescent_Dragon]

That's kind of cool. Maybe now Hunters can use my favorite class of weaponry: the Rods!

Don't mind my asking, but what is wrong with HUmars using Spread Needles? Rangers have their Shot-series weapons, which are way stronger than the Spread Needle could ever be. Why are you complaining?

[Parn]

On 2002-06-07 18:50, TeamPhalanx wrote:
I *could* care less in that I'm not at the depth of me not caring.

That makes very little sense when applied to the post in question, but ooookay.

Sorry, but for us non-cheaters, we do consider the s-rank needle to be the best weapon, 0% or not. Of course, I'm sure many of you would argue that your 180% needle is the best, but, that's your thing, not mine.

And this makes little sense as well.

"My thing" was playing legitimately up until someone opened their big mouth in the lobby. I'm sure you remember quite well how the rest goes.

Any knowledgable player who's in a hurry to level 200 knows that the quickest route to said level is to rush through the forest with a high % native weapon. No bloody S Rank Spread Needle is going to come even remotely close to an Imperial Pick with decent native %s, or a Red Handgun with high native %s for rangers. You can argue shifta/zalure all you want, but that just makes it even faster with the aforementioned weaponry. And if you go beyond the forest with your needle, your damage gets progressively worse, even moreso affected if you're not a HUmar or HUcast using said needle.

For a long-running legit player, you don't seem very knowledgable in how much %s affect your damage output. S-Rank Spread Needle, the best weapon in version 2? Only if you're using a hacked one.

Your apparent disgust with the changes in the spread needle makes me question your playstyle. Any "non-cheater" that I could think of would be overjoyed by this change.

[saffaya]

On 2002-06-07 21:11, Crescent_Dragon wrote:
Don't mind my asking, but what is wrong with HUmars using Spread Needles?

Hunters are close combat specialists.
Rangers are long range specialists.

Then comes the needle hunter, that pops his toy and uses his superior ATP to wipe out everything from a corner of the room.

Can you see the problem ?
Rangers have their Shot-series weapons, which are way stronger than the Spread Needle could ever be. Why are you complaining?

You haven't read my earlier post in this thread.
Nor have you really played this game, sorry.

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[BrokenHope]

On 2002-06-07 19:09, TeamPhalanx wrote:
Damn it, all these improvements for RAmar. Where are the HUnewearl and FOrce upgrades?



Isn't the fact that because shes a newman the HUnewearl is likely to get almost if not all techs and from what mamak says FOmar gets all techs so i would assume all forces would also, thats a pretty big difference when it seems most classes won't be able to shifta or deband let alone revive people without moons.

[TeamPhalanx]

Yes, I do remember that "I'm turning cheater because others said I cheat." Which, to this day, if it's true, is the lamest thing I've heard of. (and, I might remind you that you were never legit to begin with) Try taking a poll of what players think is the best weapon. The most likely answer you'll get is:

v1: Spread Needle
v2: S-rank Needle

[FinalMasterM]

Try taking a poll of what players think is the best weapon. The most likely answer you'll get is:

v1: Spread Needle
v2: S-rank Needle



v1: Sting Tip (with or without %s)
v2: S-rank Mechs or Huge Plantain Fan (with %s)

IMO, spreads shouldn't of been added to GC PSO, but being RAmar only means I'll be seeing less of the, since Tedz is the only RAmar I know.

[Wren]

just a question...why when someone has an opinion (bout the needle for example), and it is not the most popular thing in the post, get flamed by all the members...just a question...don't get all defensive...i take flame via here or Private Message

[TeamPhalanx]

I really don't see much flaming going on...

If they're giving RAmars the spread needle, then what great equalizier will RAmarls get? It'd be nice if that huge cannon weapon was RAc only.

[Alisha]

as far as quick exp is concerned nothing beats the flight fan without it i would of never gotten a char to 200 the spread needle thing is debatable as for ramar vs ramarl i shudder to think what a ramarl could do with a madams parasol

[Mag_Launcher]

To hell with making that cannon robot only, they've already stolen too many guns. I'm still pissed about the Yasminkov 9200M. Personally, all rangers should be able to use all guns.

[Parn]

On 2002-06-08 03:19, TeamPhalanx wrote:
Yes, I do remember that "I'm turning cheater because others said I cheat." Which, to this day, if it's true, is the lamest thing I've heard of.

I never once said that. That was your idiotic interpretation and twisting of my words.

The only reason I made that one particular item was to piss you off specifically. Nothing else. There's no "you made me do it!" in this equation whatsoever.

But your failure to acknowledge that you were in the wrong for accusing someone of cheating when they weren't is lame in itself. That was the whole point of what I did, to get YOU to realize that what you did was pathetic and wrong. The only person throwing around excuses was YOU. Just because you can't tell the difference doesn't mean you have the right to go being a dickhead to anyone that has level 200 over their head.

Cheaters aren't the one who ruined PSO... it's the people with attitudes that ruined PSO. The cheaters that FSOD people for kicks, the "legitimate players" who steal items from others, the cheaters that NOL people, the "legitimate players" who throw out accusations of others cheating no matter how baseless their accusations may be.

(and, I might remind you that you were never legit to begin with)

Sure I was. Everyone has played legitimately at one time, and while you can argue the aspect of trading as much as you want, then by your argument, up until I traded, I was playing legitimately as well.

Regardless, legitimacy or not doesn't change the situation anyways. Fact of the matter is, %s affect damage output so much in V2, it's almost ridiculous. Your ignoring %s is rather strange.

Try taking a poll of what players think is the best weapon. The most likely answer you'll get is:

v1: Spread Needle
v2: S-rank Needle


Again, ignoring %s. Yes, spread needle IS the best weapon IF you have it loaded with %s. But since any player knows S Ranks don't come with %s, your belief that even then, they're the best weapon in version 2 is just plain lunacy.

Aren't YOU the one who thinks you're one of the few people that are legit, and anyone else's opinion doesn't matter because they're just cheaters anyways? Why suddenly is the majority's opinion valid?

Here's some simple food for thought... I had an S Rank Sword for my HUmar, grinded to +99. I did many trips through the forest to build my levels.

My high damage after shifta is 400 in the ultimate forest, with a maxed out HUmar.

Now, I know you happen to play a HUnewearl, and probably other characters. But in this instance, let's just assume you're playing your HUnewearl. Not only is the HUnewearl weaker than the HUmar by a good bit, but the Spread Needle is a good bit weaker than the S Rank Sword as well.

Your damage wouldn't exactly be anything special in the ultimate forest... if you use Zalure, you know you have to be within a certain range to use it as it is, and as fast as the enemies move, they're in melee range after you cast it. You may as well be wielding a melee weapon at that point to do a lot more damage.

Your insisting that S Rank Spread Needle... a LEGIT ONE with 0% on everything is the best weapon in version 2 is "the lamest thing I've ever heard."

[jello44]

S-rank needles do infact suck without %s, its a fact since I have a few of them. I tried going through the forest with my Hune, WITH s/d/j/z I stil did about oh 450 Damage to them, and my ATP was maxed, well with mag. The point is, weapons without any %s aren't going to do as much with them. The Red Weapon series is far more powerful than any legit S-rank because of the % factor.

And about the weapon/techs in the trial, remeber after all this is only the trial, I mean who knows what is in the final version. I mean if they want to give all the clases techs, then they should limit them. I shudder to think how hard offline is going to be for any character that cannot use shifta/deband. Ok, so it will be more challenging, but at what cost?

[Zenigma]

Spread Needle is ok, but the damage is too low to really make an impact compared to a good sword. As for the RAmar class, personally theyre a waste of memory card space

[Hutobega]

I've noticed that so many people are so rude about every character that they think sucks. Well I think a lot of people should shut thier mouths and let people do what the Heck they want to do with any character. They are all good characters it just matters on the person playing them. And as for cheaters if you realy need to cheat at PSO wel then why bother playing. It makes the game stupid and barely fun at all. This is the main reason i like playing offline. its quiet and I dont have to worry bout any jerks who wanna make you lose your character steal your items or be so dang powerfull that no one else can even get a kill in. The game was meant to be a game where peopel could go online play together have fun and work as a team. It realy is no fun with knowing someone is out there thats gonna try to ruin your game ifthey get the chance. Well thats it from me for now hope some of you who read this feel the same way and support me thx to al and have a good day....

[darthsaber9x9]

On 2003-11-05 11:43, Hutobega wrote:
I've noticed that so many people are so rude about every character that they think sucks. Well I think a lot of people should shut thier mouths and let people do what the Heck they want to do with any character. They are all good characters it just matters on the person playing them. And as for cheaters if you realy need to cheat at PSO wel then why bother playing. It makes the game stupid and barely fun at all. This is the main reason i like playing offline. its quiet and I dont have to worry bout any jerks who wanna make you lose your character steal your items or be so dang powerfull that no one else can even get a kill in. The game was meant to be a game where peopel could go online play together have fun and work as a team. It realy is no fun with knowing someone is out there thats gonna try to ruin your game ifthey get the chance. Well thats it from me for now hope some of you who read this feel the same way and support me thx to al and have a good day....



sorry but this "debate" or argument involves different opinions and without them this woudl be a very boring place(this makes funny reading!).

and HOW CAN PEOPLE DECLARE A BEST WEAPON??
there is a best weapon for a best situation. some people may suck using a certain weapon therefore its not the best for them. theres no BEST weapon in the game. and if there was, a spread needle isnt it.

[Zaneatron]

did nobody notice that this thread is over a year old? dont do this again Hutobega, its not the beat way to make friends with mods

[ABDUR101]

Please don't bump old threads.