New information on Xbox version of PSO.

[Denny]

From Gamefront.de:

"XBOX: Microsoft hat heute das Online Netzwerk 'Xbox Live' auch f?an angek?, das ab Herbst 2002 erreichbar sein wird. Beta Tests beginnen Ende Juni. Derzeit befinden sich 47 Onlinespiele bei 39 Firmen in Arbeit. Die ersten Onlinespiele sind das RPG Thousand Land (From Software), das Actionspiel Whacked! (Microsoft) und Phantasy Star Online (Sega). Letzteres wird dem Xbox Starter Kit kostenlos beiliegen, das f?00 Yen erh?lich sein wird. Im Preis inbegriffen ist eine Onlinegeb?r 12 Monate."

Translation

Xbox: Microsoft today announced the online network Xbox Live for Japan as well. It will go live fall 2002. 47 onlinegames are currently in development at 39 companies. The first online games are the RPG Thousand Lans (From Software) the action title Whacked! (Microsoft) and Phantasy Star Online (Sega). The latter will be included for free with the Xbox Starter Kit, which will go on sale for 6,800 Yen. This also includes online fees for 12 months.

"XBOX: Sega gibt bekannt, dass Phantasy Star Online f? Xbox im Herbst 2002 in Japan erscheinen wird. Das Word Select System wird 5 Sprachen unterst? darunter Deutsch, Englisch und Japanisch. Ausserdem wird es eine Voice Chat- Funktion geben, damit sich die Spieler via Headset miteinander verst?igen k?n. Dem Xbox Starterkit wird eine kostenlose Version beiliegen. Weltweit haben sich bereits 400.000 Spieler bei Phantasy Star Online (Dreamcast) registriert."

Translation

Xbox: Sega has announced that Phantasy Star Online for Xbox will be released fall 2002 in Japan. The Word Select System will support 5 languages, among them German, English, and Japanese. In addition to that, there will be a voice chat feature, allowing the players to communicate via headset. The Xbox Starter Kit will include a free version. Worldwide, 400,000 players registered to play the Dreamcast version of Phantasy Star Online.



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[faceless]

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[Mag_Launcher]

So it appears there MIGHT be text communication as well. But I still doubt it other than the word select.
But the game doesn't look any better, why are you going all crazy about it? And from the looks of it, it's just a v2 port, because I don't see no Episode 1&2 weapons or stages... Hell, I don't even see the new classes. And just for reference purposes, here is the names of the weapons they're using in those shots:
HUnewearl - Meteor Cudgel
RAmar - Yasminkov 7000V
HUmar - Elysion
FOnewearl - Magical Piece

I will definately NOT get this version if it's just version 2 with voice chat. But... if they're considering downloadable levels, enemies, weapons, etc... Maybe. But of course, nothing of that nature has been announced, so probably not.

[Riel]

I would be really surprised if the XBox version is not like the GC version,with all the 3 new classes etc....just look at the Huds,they are like GC version not the DC version.They have to know that all the people who played the DC versions would get the GC version over the XBox version if it's only a port of the DC version

[saffaya]

On 2002-06-11 14:28, Riel wrote:
I would be really surprised if the XBox version is not like the GC version,with all the 3 new classes etc....

Then prepare to be surprised.

just look at the Huds,they are like GC version not the DC version.

You're tossing out the fact that there isnt a single item/class/level typical of GC PSO just because of what the HUD looks like ?

They have to know that all the people who played the DC versions would get the GC version over the XBox version if it's only a port of the DC version

Hint : Xbox PSO is given for FREE with the the Xbox live kit.

Anyway. GC PSO isnt itself finished yet.
You think ST will have the time between the 8 th of august and the start of Xbox Live to port all of GC PSO to X ?
it all depends on how early or late Xbox live will be rolled out.

The most logical is a DC/PC port for Xbox for the Live launch. Then a GC port later. (and this one not for free).

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[AynRand]

seems it is just a ver2 port pretty crappy really, those graphics in those pictures are not up to much, japanese won't but xbox because of that, ms need something better to try, better luck next time

[X-thirteen]

if its a DC port im not getting it. but i doubt it, ill call ms later and ask if they know anything about it.

[Dangerous55]

Well if its given away free and you only have to pay one fee for every X-Box game online, then it will succed. At least thats what I think, and hope. Why would you people want it to fail?

[Parn]

Not with any of us that have already been through PSOV2. Been there, done that.

Of course, everything about PSO Xbox is speculation anyways. Until some concrete evidence is given, take every comment about PSO Xbox with a grain of salt.

[WEBSTER]

i hope these are shots from de e3's x-box show, i know st merely ported over de dc ver just to show off de voice chat, cause right now, beside de sub par flat textures......i look at de shadows..... and well, they are still round from de dc ver. while de cube ver has realtime character shadows below them....... i know this can't be anywhere to how it will finally turn out, st will use de power of the box.... so ignore these pictures, cause de final product will look alot dif.

[Wewt]

HAHA Lv200s http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Madvin]

Those screenshots are from the Xbox Summer conference held today. What else would you expect from a "free" game?

[Greg]

On 2002-06-11 18:46, Parn wrote:

Of course, everything about PSO Xbox is speculation anyways. Until some concrete evidence is given, take every comment about PSO Xbox with a grain of salt.



Excactly. Not to mention that the first screens of GC PSO were of Version 1 areas. Further more Sonic Team has some time because xbox live will launch in japan after america.

[saffaya]

On 2002-06-11 22:18, Greg wrote:
Further more Sonic Team has some time because xbox live will launch in japan after america.

Did you get any info on that ? That'd be nice because they didn't say anything precise in the reports I found.
For now, the only 'date' I read is :
'at least 12 weeks before Christmas' for the Us Xbox live.


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[Greg]

At the E3 Press Conference (which you can download at xbox.com) They say that Xbox live will launch first in the states followed by a launch in japan and then europe.

[Rubesahl]

He has a point Saffaya. First time I saw the GC screenshots I screamed thinking it looked just like the dreamcast. What do you want them to do? Make the new stages first and then do the old ones?! Come on Give them a break! Also, the round shadows were ALSO in the first screens of GC so shut up saying it's crap before it's even released http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif



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[Malkavian]

For free.... and this year..... is scary.... I hope it isnt a dc ver2 port lol
Well this can be the next slide of MS lol

[NiGHTS]

The best thing to do from a business point of view would be to release "PSO Episode I" on the Xbox and package it with the Xbox Live service, then when it takes off people will be desperate for the GC port of "PSO Episode I&II"

[Parn]

Bleh.

Xbox PSO turns out to be less than 50% complete so far. NOT exactly positive news if you were waiting for the Xbox version.

Don't quote me on this of course, but sadly, it's looking more and more like Xbox PSO is going to be nothing but a version 2 port. My friend Ross is going to be ticked. Bah.

[Greg]

I love how everyone seems to want the xbox version to be shitty. Funny how some can sum up the entire game via 4 screen shots http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Mag_Launcher]

Personally, I don't care, but when fanboys start shoving shit in our face, THEN we start to want the xbox version to bomb.

[X-thirteen]

On 2002-06-12 19:29, Greg wrote:
I love how everyone seems to want the xbox version to be shitty. Funny how some can sum up the entire game via 4 screen shots http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


are u stupid? you are so dumb you dumb dumb person, why are you so dumb, geez, why? stupid stupid person geez. there are 5 pics!

[Parn]

I love how some people don't even want to consider the possibility of these thoughts being true. And stating we're judging this entirely on four screens isn't exactly it. At least this isn't the case for me.

First, we know that Sonic Team did not start on Xbox PSO development until after the GameCube version was pretty much finished. The point? Very small development period. The game will have to be finished soon, and probably have a network trial much like GameCube's PSO. That means the game will have to be done in the next two months or so. So we have a total development time of around 6 months or less. Hmm.

Second, it was stated that with voice chat and what limited areas were shown at E3, Xbox PSO was about 40% complete. This just backs up the first point, but it's part of the equation no less.

Third, we have a batch of screenshots that don't show ANYTHING new, and Sega and Microsoft were both tightlipped about PSO for Xbox at E3, and we're STILL not getting any new details. One would think they'd be HYPING the game and new features beyond just its voice chat, and not trying to keep it under wraps, with its release date only months away. If there are new levels, why isn't it being hyped up? If there are new classes, why isn't it being stated? Being quiet about it doesn't sell copies.

Fourth, we have TeamXbox.com specifically labeling the game as version 2. Rather suspicious, wouldn't you say?

And last but not least, the game is going to be bundled free with Xbox Live. If this is a quick PSOV2 port job, then I can see why this idea is feasible... development effort is minimal.

All this stuff again is just speculation, but it seems to add up well enough. If you can come up with a logical argument to counter the possibility of this NOT being a version 2 port, then feel free to enlighten me.

[Parn]

On 2002-06-12 19:56, X-thirteen wrote:
are u stupid? you are so dumb you dumb dumb person, why are you so dumb, geez, why? stupid stupid person geez. there are 5 pics!


Your sarcasm is noted, and in response, my eyes rolled so far back, they popped right out.

Ever consider doing something beyond posting inane replies to random people on the board? People just might start taking you seriously.

[Crawurm]

thats some interesting info/screenshots.


I went around the net myself and found this info at this one site.



Several minor details concerning the upcoming Xbox and GameCube releases of Phantasy Star Online have recently been revealed by Sonic Team. The company has concluded that downloading the add-on bonus version of Sega's old Saturn classic NiGHTS will take roughly five minutes. The add-on had been announced several weeks ago, and is playable on the Game Boy Advance. The developers also provided an update on their progress with the Xbox version of the game; currently, the game is roughly 40% complete.

The Xbox version of PSO will also have the distinction of being bundled with Microsoft's newest project for its console: The Xbox Live service, set to launch this fall in Japan. The network will allow players to connect with a variety of broadband devices, including ADSL, cable, and FTTH broadband providers. There is no restriction on ISP; however, the Xbox will not support narrowband connections of 56k or lower. Starter Kits for the service will be made available this fall for a price of 6800 yen (approximately $54.00 US), which includes a year's subscription to the service, a voice chat peripheral known as the Xbox Voice Communicator, and several pack-in games, PSO included.

The Xbox Live service will also be launching in North America this fall; however, PSO will not be included. It is uncertain whether the game will be available here at that time; it will, however, definitely be available on the GameCube in October.



W00t for Nights http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Greg]

On 2002-06-12 20:05, Parn wrote:
If you can come up with a logical argument to counter the possibility of this NOT being a version 2 port, then feel free to enlighten me.



I don't think that the lack of hype means anything. Sonic may very well have contracts with nintendo limiting what they can say. Also consider this analogy, If I don't tell you that I have a dog does that mean I have no dog? Also, PSO being 40% complete at E3 and only showing a few areas doesn't indicate what is included in the game. Remember that horrid Demo for the PC version?
That came out shortly before the full and was like 2 rooms. If sonic team and microsoft's goal at E3 was to show the xbox live servers in action then making a single level with voice chat is all that is necessary to do so. HAving been at E3 twice I can tell you that devlopers rarely allow you to play an entire title. Infact the first time I went to E3 I got to play soul calliber at around 40% completion yet only 3 characters were playable. the % only accounts for the overall progress of the game not just maps and skins.

My point in all this? No one except sonic team and maybe microsoft knows what version of PSO will be given to the public come this fall and speculation will do no good.

Finally as for TXB calling the title PSO v2. Both the GC and Xbox games have been given so many names by different press outlets that it is hard to build a convincing argument based on that.

[Rubesahl]

On 2002-06-12 20:05, Parn wrote:
I love how some people don't even want to consider the possibility of these thoughts being true. And stating we're judging this entirely on four screens isn't exactly it. At least this isn't the case for me.

First, we know that Sonic Team did not start on Xbox PSO development until after the GameCube version was pretty much finished. The point? Very small development period. The game will have to be finished soon, and probably have a network trial much like GameCube's PSO. That means the game will have to be done in the next two months or so. So we have a total development time of around 6 months or less. Hmm.

Second, it was stated that with voice chat and what limited areas were shown at E3, Xbox PSO was about 40% complete. This just backs up the first point, but it's part of the equation no less.

Third, we have a batch of screenshots that don't show ANYTHING new, and Sega and Microsoft were both tightlipped about PSO for Xbox at E3, and we're STILL not getting any new details. One would think they'd be HYPING the game and new features beyond just its voice chat, and not trying to keep it under wraps, with its release date only months away. If there are new levels, why isn't it being hyped up? If there are new classes, why isn't it being stated? Being quiet about it doesn't sell copies.

Fourth, we have TeamXbox.com specifically labeling the game as version 2. Rather suspicious, wouldn't you say?

And last but not least, the game is going to be bundled free with Xbox Live. If this is a quick PSOV2 port job, then I can see why this idea is feasible... development effort is minimal.

All this stuff again is just speculation, but it seems to add up well enough. If you can come up with a logical argument to counter the possibility of this NOT being a version 2 port, then feel free to enlighten me.



-acts stupid and ignores- Hey! Don't these screenshots remind you of the first one of PSO GC? Man, when I saw those first, they looked really crappy but now, look how good it is! Hhhm... I wonder if Sonicteam had to plan and design the new stages it has? Well ofcourse, the DC can't take that much. Hey! -acts more stupid- Maybe, just maybe, those new stages will be on Xbox version! That would be so cool, I imagine it'd be rather easy to port it since it's already designed. But I don't understand why people think it's going to be a little pice of shit... -sits and pouts- Well can't get depressed because some don't want the best. I remember when in GC there were no news about new stages and everyone was just as excited! Why not the same with Xbox? Well I can't assume either... The same way people shouldn't assume... -stands up and has pissed off face- Look Parn, Though your investigation is rather thoughrough and well thought, I think there's still more of a possibility that it will be a port of GC and with some more. I think it'd be reaaaaaaaalllly stuuuuuuupid if they'd make a port of ver.2 . We gave GC the benefit of the doubt, why not with Xbox?

[Rubesahl]

On 2002-06-12 20:31, Greg wrote:

On 2002-06-12 20:05, Parn wrote:
If you can come up with a logical argument to counter the possibility of this NOT being a version 2 port, then feel free to enlighten me.



I don't think that the lack of hype means anything. Sonic may very well have contracts with nintendo limiting what they can say. Also consider this analogy, If I don't tell you that I have a dog does that mean I have no dog? Also, PSO being 40% complete at E3 and only showing a few areas doesn't indicate what is included in the game. Remember that horrid Demo for the PC version?
That came out shortly before the full and was like 2 rooms. If sonic team and microsoft's goal at E3 was to show the xbox live servers in action then making a single level with voice chat is all that is necessary to do so. HAving been at E3 twice I can tell you that devlopers rarely allow you to play an entire title. Infact the first time I went to E3 I got to play soul calliber at around 40% completion yet only 3 characters were playable. the % only accounts for the overall progress of the game not just maps and skins.

My point in all this? No one except sonic team and maybe microsoft knows what version of PSO will be given to the public come this fall and speculation will do no good.

Finally as for TXB calling the title PSO v2. Both the GC and Xbox games have been given so many names by different press outlets that it is hard to build a convincing argument based on that.



Greg, are we siblings? I couldn't have said it better than you though http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[X-thirteen]

On 2002-06-12 20:13, Parn wrote:
People just might start taking you seriously.

i hope not! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Parn]

My final take on the matter... not disclosing any details on PSO for Xbox is foolish. Xbox and GameCube both are getting their own respective versions. Both are releasing this fall.

On the GameCube side, we know exactly what we're getting. We know that there are new levels, new classes, promises of more balanced gameplay, new items, and complete support for dial-up and broadband users alike.

On the Xbox side, we know there's voice chat, and we know that it looks like version 2. Gee, I'm overflowing with excitement. Hold me down.

I don't care how big Microsoft thinks Xbox Live is, you don't sell games efficiently if you're tightlipped about a game to the gaming press and audience up until it's almost release day. If that really is their gameplan, then I can see why they're doing so shitty in the Japanese market. They may be able to get away with it here, but keeping the Japanese in the dark is stupid. And they sure aren't winning over any US players this way.

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[Rubesahl]

On 2002-06-12 20:55, Parn wrote:
My final take on the matter... not disclosing any details on PSO for Xbox is foolish. Xbox and GameCube both are getting their own respective versions. Both are releasing this fall.

On the GameCube side, we know exactly what we're getting. We know that there are new levels, new classes, promises of more balanced gameplay, new items, and complete support for dial-up and broadband users alike.

On the Xbox side, we know there's voice chat, and we know that it looks like version 2. Gee, I'm overflowing with excitement. Hold me down.

I don't care how big Microsoft thinks Xbox Live is, you don't sell games efficiently if you're tightlipped about a game to the gaming press and audience up until it's almost release day. If that really is their gameplan, then I can see why they're doing so shitty in the Japanese market. They may be able to get away with it here, but keeping the Japanese in the dark is stupid. And they sure aren't winning over any US players this way.

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First, you say it as they "getting away with it" as if they're doing something bad O__o? Well, they've sure won me and a lot of other people. I for one can't wait for Xbox Live! and I don't even have Broadband yet. Games like Unreal Championship, Online Halo, Star Wars Galaxies, Dominion, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, Revolt and a bunch of others. If it sucks I'll tell you personally ok? But from the way I'm seeing it they're not doing anything wrong. For me, they have the most well planned online plan yet. GC is tooo sketchy about online plans, they just said they're going to do it. At least PS2 has one but at what cost? O_o Having to buy modem, hard disk and keyboard? No thanks, I'll take FF XI for PC thank you. They've made the servers practically perfect, Yuji Naka and other developers don't even have to worry about that! They don't even have to pay for them. Yuji Naka himself said it, you can see it at http://www.xbox.com the video of the Xbox press release at E3. A lot developers are in favor of Xbox too. I think Yuji Naka is going to be smart with this and will probably make a port from GC with a couple of extras. Just stop making them look like they're idiots or the bad guys.

[Parn]

You just went on a tangent about Xbox Live, which is really meaningless. I'm talking about PSO Xbox, not Xbox Live. What other games are featured on Xbox Live is really irrelevant in this discussion.

If Xbox PSO is going to feature the same levels as GameCube PSO, or MORE levels, and/or new features, WHY NOT SAY SO? What the FUCK good does being quiet about Xbox PSO accomplish? You mind explaining that one to me?

YOU DO NOT GET MORE SALES FOR A GAME IF YOU DO NOT HYPE IT UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. This really isn't that difficult a concept to grasp. When you are a business, being silent will get you nowhere. Who's going to buy your product if they don't know anything about it, or if it even exists?

[Parn]

An addendum.

I find it rather amusing how certain individuals get all pissy about us speculating that PSO Xbox is just a PSOV2 port, but it's perfectly alright to speculate that PSO Xbox will have the same, or more features as GameCube PSO.

Speculation from either side is no more justified than the other, though so far, I have yet to see any material to support the belief that Xbox PSO is going to be more than a V2 port. We knew GameCube PSO was getting new stuff a long time ago, and new at least SOME details back then... we don't know jack shit about Xbox PSO beyond voice chat and version 2 content, and release day is drawing near.

[Parn]

On 2002-06-12 20:32, Rubesahl wrote:

-acts stupid and ignores- Hey! Don't these screenshots remind you of the first one of PSO GC? Man, when I saw those first, they looked really crappy but now, look how good it is! Hhhm... I wonder if Sonicteam had to plan and design the new stages it has? Well ofcourse, the DC can't take that much. Hey! -acts more stupid- Maybe, just maybe, those new stages will be on Xbox version! That would be so cool, I imagine it'd be rather easy to port it since it's already designed. But I don't understand why people think it's going to be a little pice of shit... -sits and pouts- Well can't get depressed because some don't want the best. I remember when in GC there were no news about new stages and everyone was just as excited! Why not the same with Xbox? Well I can't assume either... The same way people shouldn't assume... -stands up and has pissed off face- Look Parn, Though your investigation is rather thoughrough and well thought, I think there's still more of a possibility that it will be a port of GC and with some more. I think it'd be reaaaaaaaalllly stuuuuuuupid if they'd make a port of ver.2 . We gave GC the benefit of the doubt, why not with Xbox?


I almost missed this one... going to comment since you're ignoring a lot of details. Last post tonight, I promise.

When the first screenshots of PSO GameCube came out, it was at E3 2001, when Sonic Team was going to link the Dreamcast and GameCube games together. THAT is why the initial batch of screens looked no different, or arguably worse than the Dreamcast version.

Version 2 released in July on Dreamcast, and it was decided that the two consoles would NOT be linked together... and awhile afterwards, we were told that instead, two new classes would be added to the GameCube version, the HUcaseal and RAmarl. Later on, FOmar was added, and more and more information continued to be revealed over time. Famitsu got screens of the new stages, and the game was hyped up over time.

So what about Xbox PSO? We have no mention on whether there will be new levels, new characters, or ANYTHING. All we have are 5 measly screenshots showing V2 crap, and information that it's going to have voice chat.

If you didn't notice, and this will be probably the third time saying this, but release day is drawing near. I'm already hyped up for the GameCube release. I've been hyped up for the game for months, even moreso now than ever. If they wanted me to get excited over the Xbox version, they sure seem intent on screwing around about it.

[Kent]

On 2002-06-12 21:21, Parn wrote:
YOU DO NOT GET MORE SALES FOR A GAME IF YOU DO NOT HYPE IT UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

Yeah, like Wreckless.

That game had alot of hype around it, causing it to get alot of sales.

But if people knew the truth about how fucked-up and utterly shitty the game was, then nobody would buy it, and Bunkasha Games would take a serious hit to thier savings.

[Toasty]

On 2002-06-11 15:38, saffaya wrote:

Hint : Xbox PSO is given for FREE with the the Xbox live kit.

Anyway. GC PSO isnt itself finished yet.
You think ST will have the time between the 8 th of august and the start of Xbox Live to port all of GC PSO to X ?
it all depends on how early or late Xbox live will be rolled out.

The most logical is a DC/PC port for Xbox for the Live launch. Then a GC port later. (and this one not for free).


I have to agree with you on this one. It just doesn't follow that they would initially bundle the newer version with XBOX Live in Japan within the time frame.

The first taste of PSO for XBOX's free, but if you want another hit then you gotta pay.

Of course, we're talking about the Japanese version. Now in US we're getting Re-Volt included in the package and PSO will be available seperately.

Will they both be the same version as the GC? Who knows? This thread turned into a flame war on an assumption that they're the same, or that they're not. Can't post info without a fight. We should have a forum where fanboys (like all of us that posted here arguing) can duke it out. Oh wait...Rants forum.

Denny: Thanks for the information. Hopefully including PSO with XBOX Live in Japan will give XBOX Live a better start. Nothing like playing some international soccer as a Fonewm. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Malkavian]

Xbox will get PSOver2 with voice chat this fall.
And then? maybe sonic team starts a port of pso epsiode 1&2 with some adds... or they start PSO2... who knows but PSO in xbox looks so far , at least a new one

[Rubesahl]

-sigh- All I'm saying is that there's still a chance for it to be improved and since it looks like they don't have to worry about the servers. And Yes I came up with the Xbox thing because you're saying they had a bad strategy. I give you the fact about the GC version screenshots and now I know it. Anyway, I still think it's probable that it will have the new stages. I admmit they shouldn't have their mouths shut but who knows? One thing is for sure if they do or do not, it's going to be a hell of a surprise when we hear. Sorry I kinda heated things up here, that's youur opinion and I respect it, sorry PArn.

[Parn]

Don't say sorry, you're as entitled to your opinion as I am. Apologies aren't necessary.

BTW Toasty, I guess that makes you a fanboy too since you participated in this thread, eh? Too bad your accusation is baseless, since I think GameCube's lineup of games sucks. Only reason why I purchased it was because of PSO. Which leads me to yet another point.

I was all set by purchasing a new system for PSO. I knew it was coming, and some of what was going to be featured. None of us know what will be the extent of features for PSO Xbox, so I highly doubt anyone who was looking forward to PSO went out and grabbed an Xbox specifically for it.

There's no argument of which system is better in this thread at all. Not once did I say GameCube is better than Xbox, or vice versa. This is strictly a discussion on PSO for both systems. You get it yet, or does someone need to hammer it through your thick skull?

If you're going to start namecalling others in a thread because they're participating in it, then keep your mouth shut yourself and don't jump in and throw in your own two cents. God damn hypocrite.

[Greg]

On 2002-06-13 07:40, Malkavian wrote:
Xbox will get PSOver2 with voice chat this fall.


Why do people state assumption as actual fact?

[Malkavian]

On 2002-06-13 11:18, Greg wrote:

On 2002-06-13 07:40, Malkavian wrote:
Xbox will get PSOver2 with voice chat this fall.


Why do people state assumption as actual fact?


Maybe because microsoft said it officially

[Greg]

On 2002-06-13 12:07, Malkavian wrote:

On 2002-06-13 11:18, Greg wrote:

On 2002-06-13 07:40, Malkavian wrote:
Xbox will get PSOver2 with voice chat this fall.


Why do people state assumption as actual fact?


Maybe because microsoft said it officially



There is no official statement that this is PSO ver2.

[Toasty]

On 2002-06-13 09:04, Parn wrote:

Don't say sorry, you're as entitled to your opinion as I am. Apologies aren't necessary.

BTW Toasty, I guess that makes you a fanboy too since you participated in this thread, eh? Too bad your accusation is baseless, since I think GameCube's lineup of games sucks. Only reason why I purchased it was because of PSO. Which leads me to yet another point.

I was all set by purchasing a new system for PSO. I knew it was coming, and some of what was going to be featured. None of us know what will be the extent of features for PSO Xbox, so I highly doubt anyone who was looking forward to PSO went out and grabbed an Xbox specifically for it.

There's no argument of which system is better in this thread at all. Not once did I say GameCube is better than Xbox, or vice versa. This is strictly a discussion on PSO for both systems. You get it yet, or does someone need to hammer it through your thick skull?

If you're going to start namecalling others in a thread because they're participating in it, then keep your mouth shut yourself and don't jump in and throw in your own two cents. God damn hypocrite.


Yup, I knew replying might incite something. Replying again, specially now, makes me a hypocrite. Hammer taken for that one. *flops to the floor*

Its true I'm a fanboy, but not of a specific gaming console, just of PSO. I did imply that I was a fanboy when I included myself in what I said, "like all of us that posted here arguing."

You purchase a GC for PSO, but dislike the current crop of games. I didn't discuss the GC's current line up of games, nor did I compare the GC with the XBOX. So, I don't agree with your secondary claim. I, however, said that we were arguing about the XBOX version being, or not being the same as the GC.

My point wasn't clearly conveyed since you took it personally, but I didn't specify anyone, just generalize. My mistake, but Parn you're a fanboy/fangirl as myself. We're both hoping to get a much better version of PSO than the current offering on the DC.

I'm going on a 'tangent' now. My post was not to infuriate others, but hopefully that we'll be able to step back and not argue on preliminary info on PSO. If we are going to argue then there's a forum.
*hands back the hammer* http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Mr. T.

[shinokou]

I am convinced that this will end up being a port of ver. 2, because, like a previous poster mentioned, it will is coming free with xbox live. Thats crazy, every japanese xbox live subscriber will have PSO! its just gonna be cheap, easy port, then they throw the sequel at us later. Probably the GC version, with even more stuff.

Either that, or it will be downloadable content? That hard drive is a powerful thing. Either way, if i ever get PSO on XBOX, it'll be second to the GC version, which will undoubtedly have a really high level character on it by the time I decide to get my hands on the XBOX version. And dont get my started on the perils of voice chat only... i need to play QUIETLy.. grrrrrrrrrr xbox for the day, GC for the night http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif



Hey, maybe they can put together some crazy downloadable quests for the XBOX version with the harddrive? That would be fun fun stuff. With the GC version, we get GBA stuff... what will the XBOX people get?