Let's have a serious discussion!

[Ness]

What do you think about the idea of a world nation?



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[GothicAngel]

Impossible and utopian.

[Uncle_bob]

It's bullshit. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[astuarlen]

Incredible opportunities for corruption on unprecedented levels! I am, like, so totally in! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Zaneatron]

Asshat! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Daikarin]

Like mankind? Nah, wouldn't work.

And with that, I bid farewell. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

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[Sagasu]

Fucknut.. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

Thats the last thing I want.

Space comes first.

[Ketchup345]

It would be nice.

The whole world under one dictatorship would be great. No wars, and everyone under one leadership. Good idea, just don't let anyone from Corrupticut be the leader. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Ness]

I would only like the idea if it were a democratic world nation.

[Getintothegame]

I want one language. That'd be nice, no more language barriers.
X_X

The only thing about one nation is that people would have to go with one idea of government, right? It is interesting when nations compete, like China and the US are doing now.

[Outrider]

http://www.rpgplanet.com/chrono/images/ct/map-zeal.gif

Sound familiar, anyone? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

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[geewj]

That damn blue triangle on the top right plagues my very existance! How! How do I get you?

I've always justified myself under the guise that you can't get it, but its the one that falls down for the other times.

[Solstis]

We would call it the Federation.

Then, some colonies would split off, calling themselves "Zeon."

Cool!

[Ness]

On 2004-07-27 21:01, Prof_Frink wrote:
That damn blue triangle on the top right plagues my very existance! How! How do I get you?

I've always justified myself under the guise that you can't get it, but its the one that falls down for the other times.



You can get it in 1000 AD.

[Kuea]

I want to get it in that area

not in 1000

[Para]

Not possible because of too many conflicting interests.

[Ness]

Not now, at least.

[space_butler]

On 2004-07-27 21:19, Solstis wrote:
We would call it the Federation.

Then, some colonies would split off, calling themselves "Zeon."

Cool!



would there be wars after that?

[Ness]

There could be.

[space_butler]

yay

[GothicAngel]

On 2004-07-28 07:36, space_butler wrote:
yay

[Kadavreski]

On 2004-07-28 07:36, space_butler wrote:
yarr...i be slitting your throught tonight!

[space_butler]

On 2004-07-28 07:38, mechgun_mike wrote:
kill me!


On 2004-07-28 07:36, space_butler wrote:
yarr...i be slitting your throat tonight!





yay i get to kill stuff!

[Monomate]

FKL...it is the world nation...

[Eanae]

just don't let anyone from Corrupticut be the leader.

I resent that. All most some afew very little of us are really good people!

[Armok]

World nation bah!

You need poor shit countrys to make the rich decent countrys feel better about themselves. You also need separate system of law so that you can pay them fuck all to make your Trainers and basic crappy plastic shit.

[space_butler]

On 2004-07-28 08:03, Armok wrote:
World nation bah!

You need poor shit countrys to make the rich decent countrys feel better about themselves. You also need separate system of law so that you can pay them fuck all to make your Trainers and basic crappy plastic shit.



you mean people get paid for that?

[Kadavreski]

On 2004-07-28 07:43, space_butler wrote:


On 2004-07-28 07:38, mechgun_mike wrote:
kill me!


On 2004-07-28 07:36, space_butler wrote:
yarr...i be slitting your throat tonight!





yay i get to kill stuff!



you sure do...action replay'll make it painless.

loads of times on continuum i have sacrificed myself for my team.

[Armok]

On 2004-07-28 08:05, space_butler wrote:


On 2004-07-28 08:03, Armok wrote:
World nation bah!

You need poor shit countrys to make the rich decent countrys feel better about themselves. You also need separate system of law so that you can pay them fuck all to make your Trainers and basic crappy plastic shit.



you mean people get paid for that?



Paid in rice.

Not that I think its fair, just its better they poor than extra people running around in gas guzzling trucks and killing the planet.

[Saciel]

On 2004-07-27 21:19, Solstis wrote:
We would call it the Federation.

Then, some colonies would split off, calling themselves "Zeon."

Cool!



Yes... but then who plays the role of the annoying kid who magically pilots the federation's Latest mobile suit RX-78...

I mean yeah it wont be hard to find some idiot to run around in a cape with long flowing blonde hair and a white mask... everyone always loves the red models of the mobile suits... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

but finding an annoying brat kid who becomes an expert pilot in all of two days...

[space_butler]

On 2004-07-28 08:29, Saciel wrote:


On 2004-07-27 21:19, Solstis wrote:
We would call it the Federation.

Then, some colonies would split off, calling themselves "Zeon."

Cool!



Yes... but then who plays the role of the annoying kid who magically pilots the federation's Latest mobile suit RX-78...

I mean yeah it wont be hard to find some idiot to run around in a cape with long flowing blonde hair and a white mask... everyone always loves the red models of the mobile suits... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

but finding an annoying brat kid who becomes an expert pilot in all of two days...



you could probably find one if you ask around a bit

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-07-28 07:55, Eanae wrote:
I resent that. All most some afew very little of us are really good people!


You're from here too?

What do you think of the idea of a separate jail for Corrupticut politicians? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Kadavreski]

hah.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-07-27 16:41, Ketchup345 wrote:
It would be nice.

The whole world under one dictatorship would be great. No wars, and everyone under one leadership. Good idea, just don't let anyone from Corrupticut be the leader. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



Provided that we do all unite under one nation, there will always be fighting and skirmishes. In fact, uniting under one nation would be the perfect recipe for endless civil wars, let alone the terrorist activity.

One of the things that you must keep in mind, and this is why we have so much trouble today, is that not all cultures on this planet have developed as far. The Northern Hemisphere is generally well developed culturally, but the Southern Hemisphere, with the exception of perhaps, Australia and a handfull of South American nations, have a level of cultural development that can be compared to Europe's middle ages.

Mind you, I'm not at all talking about technology, but specifically about the cultural habits of each nation. For example, as cultures, the United States, Europe and most Asian nations are capable of interacting peacefully with the rest of the world, despite obvious differences. A Diplomat from one nation is capable of, and willing to learn the customs of the nation they are going to, so that they can behave politely and courteously, to have discussions on whatever matters need to be discussed.

Meanwhile, while many of the leaders of many Middle-Eastern (and many other) nations are capable of doing what I just described, many of their people are not. They have the attitude that others will conform to their customs when they are visited. They want to be conquerors, and they want things to be their way. They aren't willing to make cordial agreements, and they aren't willing to negociate. They group together in terrorist groups, take hostages and make demands. They attack innocent people out of nowhere, and they behave barbarically on video. They're so far behind, culturally, that they are incapable of behaving peacefully in a world-community.

I'm not saying that they won't eventually progress to where we are now, but it may take a while.


Even beyond that, I fail to see how a single world nation can function properly. I can't see how it could work. If the whole thing were split into hemispheres or continents, I could see it. The competition would keep the leaders of each nation in check, like the keystone in an arch. Under a single rule though, there'd be far too much wiggle-room for corruption. With no one to oppose you, who could possibly be against you?

[Eanae]

On 2004-07-28 08:50, Ketchup345 wrote:


On 2004-07-28 07:55, Eanae wrote:
I resent that. All most some afew very little of us are really good people!


You're from here too?

What do you think of the idea of a separate jail for Corrupticut politicians? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



As long as they use torture as a punishment method, it's all good http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Ness]

I too don't think a dictatorship would work very well. Personally, I wouldn't want to live in a world where everyone has to watch what they say rfor fear of being put in jail, even if the world is united and the threat of war is close to zero. Giving up freedom for safety is not a fair trade, in my opinion.

[Sord]

actually, if there were a dictatorship, look at it this way, 1 leader vs. Entire World Population. Leader does one thing wrong, billion people revolt overwhelming his guards and he's dead. Now a power skirmish insues as to who is the new dictator, when it's finally settled, more death!

[Outrider]

On 2004-07-28 08:29, Saciel wrote:


On 2004-07-27 21:19, Solstis wrote:
We would call it the Federation.

Then, some colonies would split off, calling themselves "Zeon."

Cool!



Yes... but then who plays the role of the annoying kid who magically pilots the federation's Latest mobile suit RX-78...

I mean yeah it wont be hard to find some idiot to run around in a cape with long flowing blonde hair and a white mask... everyone always loves the red models of the mobile suits... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

but finding an annoying brat kid who becomes an expert pilot in all of two days...



I could do it. I've already had it proven scientifically that I'm a newtype.

[Sord]

Somebody wrote:

Yes... but then who plays the role of the annoying kid who magically pilots the federation's Latest mobile suit RX-78...

I mean yeah it wont be hard to find some idiot to run around in a cape with long flowing blonde hair and a white mask... everyone always loves the red models of the mobile suits... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

but finding an annoying brat kid who becomes an expert pilot in all of two days...



it's kinda easy, just find the videogamer who is obssessed enough to go out and buy a $300 game chair with joy stick, modern day gaming pannel (with nobs, switches, meters, and various omiters) that has been playing armored core games 10x more than the average person... or you could just get the guy who beat Soul Calibur on it's hardest mode using the fishing rod controller.

[Sagasu]

On 2004-07-28 09:38, Eanae wrote:


As long as they use torture as a punishment method, it's all good http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

I would have expected this from me..

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-07-28 11:16, Sord wrote:
or you could just get the guy who beat Soul Calibur on it's hardest mode using the fishing rod controller.

That is a person we describe as having too much time on his hands.

[doubletake123]

*hides fishing rod controller*
<_<
>_>

what?



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[Sord]

On 2004-07-28 11:27, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:


On 2004-07-28 11:16, Sord wrote:
or you could just get the guy who beat Soul Calibur on it's hardest mode using the fishing rod controller.

That is a person we describe as having too much time on his hands.


funny thing is it really did happen, thet guy videotaped the whole thing and sent it in to gameinformer (or maybe it was another gaming magazine), so they commemorated his efforts by writing a "Most Obsessive Gamer" article on him.

[Ness]

I forgot that there was a fishing rod controller for the DC.

[Firocket1690]

On 2004-07-28 14:48, Ness wrote:
I forgot that there was a fishing rod controller for the DC.


Ya know.
In Japan, there was some contest or whatever that wanted people to beat the original Soul Calibur.
Some guy videotaped himself beating it with that fishing stick.

[Ness]

On 2004-07-28 15:08, Firocket1690 wrote:


On 2004-07-28 14:48, Ness wrote:
I forgot that there was a fishing rod controller for the DC.


Ya know.
In Japan, there was some contest or whatever that wanted people to beat the original Soul Calibur.
Some guy videotaped himself beating it with that fishing stick.



Too little to late; we just finished discussing that.

Thanks for the info, though.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-07-28 09:07, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:
... yada yada yada ...


With enough brainwashing, anything could work.


Maybe a dictatorship isn't the best idea, but a true Communism government. No leaders, everyone is equal...

[Ness]

A government without a leader would be a disaster.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-07-28 15:29, Ness wrote:
A government without a leader would be a disaster.


Has it been tried before?

If they get a group of diverse people to set things up at the start, eventually, the world could function without a government. The only time it could really be required is during the set-up of the unification, and whenever something major and new comes about.

It may work, it may not. Giving it a try would be interesting.

[Sord]

On 2004-07-28 15:29, Ness wrote:
A government without a leader would be a disaster.


at least right now it is, we might culturally evolve later... *everyone starts laughing*

[Trugeta]

hideous, someone's, giant
and
dog-dancing, passionate, tri pansy

[space_butler]

why couldnt we have worldwide anarchy?