PSO PLUS TOMMOROW...whos gettin it

[Travis IV]

hey guys im getting pso plus tommorow, yes i play 1 and 2 online too but this update isnt just for the offline players that want to expierience online a little bit...it also favors legits a tad bit more with the no rare finding if you have hacked or duped items on you during the game online if your the host....me being a legit find this to be pretty cool i suppose just because it favors people like me a little more, but ne ways if you are or arent getting pso plus tommorow post your opinions on it ne ways, id like to hear some feedack about it

[Asura_UK]

Oh right I didnt know hackers not being able to find rares was one of the updates. I already got that one in the XBOX version. Helps you know if you are playing with the right people.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-09-14 12:00, prowler wrote:
it also favors legits a tad bit more with the no rare finding if you have hacked or duped items on you during the game online if your the host....


The only hacked items that stops rares is Mags above level 200 (1304/1308). The game can't detect simple dupes or hacks (even hacks with hidden %s {such as 127 or 300} I'm pretty sure).

But it does disable the common dupe mehtod (though you can still go back to regular PSO to do that).



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[Zeik123]

So let me get this striaghtyou con't dupe anymore correct? Thats good. Now what if you duped on the old version? And then transhper back? Doesn't that defeat the whole dupe correcting thing in its tracks? I eman if you can still go back, what to point of correcting it at all? I've also hear they have the old version on the same disc? Man I here a lot of rumors.

I got mine reserved this past sunday. I'm just waiting for "the call" from Game Stop so I ca go pick up my copy tomorrow.

[Asura_UK]

Yeah the mags above L200, and support items in quantities above 10 (like having 72 trimates on you) are both identified as hacks and prevent you finding rares. If you accidentally pick up something that a hacker has dropped, you need to get rid of it then FSOD your game in order to be back to normal and have a chance of finding red boxes.

EDIT: Oooh was that my 100th post? I only signed up 25 days ago. I should post less.

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[Zeik123]

So I lets say I have duped before but none of that other things (I play offline) will I find rare items.

And while I'm on the topic of rare items, I got PSO for a few reasons but I want to know if I can get S ranks off line now with PSO Plus.

[Asura_UK]

Its ok if you have traded with other people but arent sure if the things they gave to you were dupes or not. If it looks the same as the ones you can find it is ok.

Even if weapons have high percentages it wont ruin your game. I think it tricks the game into thinking the weapon has 100% on the same attribute 3 times. You can legally max at 300%, but it all shouldnt be on the same thing if you want to be legit.

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[Link00seven]

I got the JP one...lol

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-09-14 13:01, Zeik123 wrote:
So let me get this striaghtyou con't dupe anymore correct? Thats good. Now what if you duped on the old version? And then transhper back? Doesn't that defeat the whole dupe correcting thing in its tracks? I eman if you can still go back, what to point of correcting it at all? I've also hear they have the old version on the same disc? Man I here a lot of rumors.

I got mine reserved this past sunday. I'm just waiting for "the call" from Game Stop so I ca go pick up my copy tomorrow.

You can't dupe in this version (using the common way). I don't know why they even bothered to correct it, but they did.
The dupe on the old then transfer back does work though. This does not help stop duping for probably 75% of the people that are going to get this version (I will get this on the way home from school tomarrow). I


On 2004-09-14 13:06, Zeik123 wrote:
So I lets say I have duped before but none of that other things (I play offline) will I find rare items.

And while I'm on the topic of rare items, I got PSO for a few reasons but I want to know if I can get S ranks off line now with PSO Plus.

Yes, duping and having dupes does nothing for rare drops. The only thing that effect rares is stacking (on any version even the current one I believe), and Mags above level 200.

No, you get the same type of S-Ranks as the current version gets (with the exception of the Episode 2 A and B rank prizes, those are Blue and Green Rings instead of the God Shields).

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[Corey]

On 2004-09-14 13:37, Ketchup345 wrote:

On 2004-09-14 13:01, Zeik123 wrote:
So let me get this striaghtyou con't dupe anymore correct? Thats good. Now what if you duped on the old version? And then transhper back? Doesn't that defeat the whole dupe correcting thing in its tracks? I eman if you can still go back, what to point of correcting it at all? I've also hear they have the old version on the same disc? Man I here a lot of rumors.

I got mine reserved this past sunday. I'm just waiting for "the call" from Game Stop so I ca go pick up my copy tomorrow.

You can't dupe in this version (using the common way). I don't know why they even bothered to correct it, but they did.
The dupe on the old then transfer back does work though. This does not help stop duping for probably 75% of the people that are going to get this version (I will get this on the way home from school tomarrow). I


On 2004-09-14 13:06, Zeik123 wrote:
So I lets say I have duped before but none of that other things (I play offline) will I find rare items.

And while I'm on the topic of rare items, I got PSO for a few reasons but I want to know if I can get S ranks off line now with PSO Plus.

Yes, duping and having dupes does nothing. The only thing that effect rares is stacking (on any version even the current one I believe), and Mags above level 200.

No, you get the same type of S-Ranks as the current version gets (with the exception of the Episode 2 A and B rank prises, those are Blue and Green Rings instead of the God Shields).


EP2 online is Yellow Ring and the Class armors...

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-09-14 13:40, Corey wrote:
EP2 online is Yellow Ring and the Class armors...


I meant offline prizes (since they said offline only), obviously the online ones are different for all ranks and Episodes.

[PJ]

Hey, since they delayed PSO + for a bit, dfo you think they might have added something, say... offline Gallon's Shop? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I'd like to think so. If not... a pointless delay...?

[Corey]

those are Blue and Green Rings instead of the God Shields).

I assumed you meant EP2 online since Blue and Green ring are from EP2 while Gods Shields are from ep1 online http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-09-14 13:48, Corey wrote:
I assumed you meant EP2 online since Blue and Green ring are from EP2 while Gods Shields are from ep1 online http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif


No. There are 4 God Shields. 2 offline (A and B Ranks) and 2 online (A and B Ranks); all are for Episode 1, Episode 2 gets the Rings and class/job Fields.

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[flowgoer]

Does PSO Plus prevent data corruption? I heard something about the removal of the double save or something. I am planning on getting online for the first time pretty soon, and I would rather not lose my characters.

[Corey]

Gah. Each time I post I get more confused.
I'll just say your right and I'm wrong seeing as I'm starting to see the point of the posts I make
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-09-14 13:53, flowgoer wrote:
Does PSO Plus prevent data corruption? I heard something about the removal of the double save or something. I am planning on getting online for the first time pretty soon, and I would rather not lose my characters.


PSOGC will never be completely safe from corruption. Taking out the Double Save just lowers the risk of it, since each save gives another chance for corruption (I would like to see the bank and shop saves removed too though, those are the most annoying >.<).

If your disk is in good condition, and you stay away from crowded blocks, then you can take out some other risks for ?SOD/-X.

[Zeik123]

So let me get this straight. I've asked a few people and only got a confusing answer. Can an off line only person get S-Ranks in PSO plus?

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-09-14 14:16, Zeik123 wrote:
So let me get this straight. I've asked a few people and only got a confusing answer. Can an off line only person get S-Ranks in PSO plus?


Not normal S-Ranks.

They only get the "toy" S-Ranks. They get items such as the Crazy Tune and Samba Maracas.

[kazuma56]

well if you check Sega's site, they say something about downloading new quests, so I guess that means that people who can get online can now download all the online content.... or not.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-09-14 17:52, kazuma56 wrote:
well if you check Sega's site, they say something about downloading new quests, so I guess that means that people who can get online can now download all the online content.... or not.


The only thing I saw about downloading was downloadable Mini-Games, not real quests.

http://sega.com/games/game_temp.php?game=pso1and2

[Asura_UK]

On 2004-09-14 17:52, kazuma56 wrote:
well if you check Sega's site, they say something about downloading new quests, so I guess that means that people who can get online can now download all the online content.... or not.



Not for Gamecube. You dont download quests.

Xbox has the Central Fire Swirl quest to download to your hard disk. Shame they dont let you download Seat of the Heart, East Tower, and West Tower. Then they Xbox version would be up to date like the PSO Plus on GC.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-09-14 18:29, Asura_UK wrote:
Not for Gamecube. You dont download quests.

Xbox has the Central Fire Swirl quest to download to your hard disk. Shame they dont let you download Seat of the Heart, East Tower, and West Tower. Then they Xbox version would be up to date like the PSO Plus on GC.


GC has downloadable quests. 3 of them. Its just that they aren't for Episode 1&2 (Game Informer, and the two story related ones; all are for Episode 3).

Each quest only takes up about 3 blocks (they are only the scripts, since everything else is on the disk), so there is no problem with the room on the memory cards (and Baru had said before there was no problem with the game disk being able to download them). Sega just hasn't bothered to put those quests up for download for some odd reason (make us dish out $30 to buy PSO+?).

If they did allow the download for XBox, they should charge $30, to make it fair for the GC players.

[Joshie]

Im getting it. Im goin to be the first one in line.

[Puppet_Papaya]

I sure as hell won't get it. It's just the same game being released yet again. Why not bring Blue Burst to the GC with all that juicy new content? Because Sega is fucking braindead in terms of making good business decisions. That's why.

[Link_Dead]

On 2004-09-14 13:47, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:
Hey, since they delayed PSO + for a bit, dfo you think they might have added something, say... offline Gallon's Shop? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I'd like to think so. If not... a pointless delay...?



If they do add the shop, I am getting it... IF not, heh... It can stay on the shelf... Us Offliners get the short end of the stick...

[FOmar_Schmidt]

Wait, if there are no downloadable quests for ep 1&2, then how do you upgrade your weapons. I thought I read somewhere that you can partake in two online quests to add like giest to s-rank weapons, and to add like 5% native to a weapon that is not s-rank.

Also, they need to make it a little more fair for the offline players. We don't get any real benifit for going through C-mode. It's not fair. None of those weapons are useful. Now an s-rank, that is a lot cooler, since you can grind it and make it really powerful. And with the ability to either restore tp, or add giest to a weapon, that just makes it even better.

But the little things that they are putting into PSO+ are not enough to make me dish out $50 just to get something I have been playing for what... two years now? Give or take.

When it drops in price I might buy it, but not right now.

[Jack]

I doubt they'd add Gallon's Shop, because it's constantly being updated, what with the roulette, and the music disks, and so on.

And STILL I'm astounded by the numbers of people playing the game in offline only. What does the O stand for again?

[Link_Dead]

On 2004-09-15 01:18, Jack wrote:
I doubt they'd add Gallon's Shop, because it's constantly being updated, what with the roulette, and the music disks, and so on.

And STILL I'm astounded by the numbers of people playing the game in offline only. What does the O stand for again?



yeah yeah... mock the Offliners... They made an offline option because they knew some people would want it... And yeah, we are out there... Im an offliner becuase there are way to many hacks/cheats/idiots that are online...

[Deus-Irae]

On 2004-09-15 01:28, Link_Dead wrote:
Im an offliner becuase there are way to many hacks/cheats/idiots that are online...

thats not a good excuse! online is also filled with some really cool people (hax0r or not) and many legit players. like all of the folks i regularly play with.

im getting PSO+ http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif (i havent NOT bought a PSO game yet, i cant stop now! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif)

[AndyPandy]

I dont think you have experienced PSO in its fullest form until you have played online....but each to his/her own I suppose.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-09-15 01:06, FOmar_Schmidt wrote:
Wait, if there are no downloadable quests for ep 1&2, then how do you upgrade your weapons. I thought I read somewhere that you can partake in two online quests to add like giest to s-rank weapons, and to add like 5% native to a weapon that is not s-rank.

Also, they need to make it a little more fair for the offline players. We don't get any real benifit for going through C-mode. It's not fair. None of those weapons are useful. Now an s-rank, that is a lot cooler, since you can grind it and make it really powerful. And with the ability to either restore tp, or add giest to a weapon, that just makes it even better.

But the little things that they are putting into PSO+ are not enough to make me dish out $50 just to get something I have been playing for what... two years now? Give or take.

When it drops in price I might buy it, but not right now.


You upgrade your weapons at Gallon's Shop (which is not in the JP version, so it is doubtful the US would get it). The quests that you have to do to unlock the ability to do that are on the disk though (Towers).

PSO+ is only $30.



On 2004-09-15 01:18, Jack wrote:
I doubt they'd add Gallon's Shop, because it's constantly being updated, what with the roulette, and the music disks, and so on.

And STILL I'm astounded by the numbers of people playing the game in offline only. What does the O stand for again?

If they did add Gallon's Shop (doubtful), they may have it so that it isn't updated, or you can download the updates.

This is supposed to be an online game; but does have a great offline mode too, especially if you have friends who play.

[Zeik123]

Listen guys. They put and off linemode so people like me who can't get on line for one reason or anther can still play the game. Not to metion I've got so many Speical Weapons I don't even want to risk a frozen screen of death. Even though I've gotten it twice off line and got out un sratched.

[Tsudo_Plat]

I suppose we can all guess and rant and rave over this game, but nobody will know EXACTLY what it has until today. So just hold your horses before we all get upset about how it doesn't contain Gallon's Shop, etc.

Besides, all you offliners will get the Towers quests! What isn't great about that?! Now all those great rares are available much easier!

[xjustsumloser]

Not to mention offline ep2 cmode makes it all worth it. I went to get it today. but my local gamestop didnt get it yet. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif. I look forward to this weekend. EP2 Cmode here I come. I just dont look forward to C3 again. thats so terrible stuff.

[Zeik123]

Do you live in PA because my Game Stop had the same problem. If so I might have seen you before.

[Genoa]

1 question, on psow, if someone makes a topic on pso plus... how will people know its plus? Is there going to be a new topic label? Or a whole new section like what they did with episode III???

[Corey]

PSO+ is nothing new, so nothing will change.

[Genoa]

I would still like to know if it's + or not...
Example: someone says "I need help on West Tower Q" or something like that, some people would assume they play online and would say something like "meat me online" or something. Or tell them something that you can only do online... Yeah, anyways. I would just like some way of distinquishing + from original. Atleast a new topic label saying like PSO+... how hard could that possibly be??

[Corey]

Because of the wonderfull sentance,
I'm offline only


And as far as I can tell,
yes, it is somewhat hard to add a new label...

Or they make it look that way, anyway http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Genoa]

On 2004-09-15 14:39, Corey wrote:
Because of the wonderfull sentance,
I'm offline only


And as far as I can tell,
yes, it is somewhat hard to add a new label...

Or they make it look that way, anyway http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif


Are we talking about the same label? I don't mean a new topic section deticated to PSO+ alone, I mean a little label on the thingy when you creat a topic on a thread and it says TOPIC LABEL and you put something like MAG or DC or something... Is that really hard to do? I mean HTML is amazing...

[Corey]

Yes, I know what you mean by label.

[BrokenHope]

Mine shipped today from Canada so at least it seems Canada has PSO+ in stock.

[cHaOsMaZtA]

Hopefully I'll be getting it today. My mom is gonna go pick it up for me after she drops me off for soccer practice. Gamestop better have it... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

I thought it was a sure thing to not have gallon's shop. WHy are people now saying there is a possibility of it being there?



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[Eihwaz]

Dude, no way is PSO+ going to get a whole new forum. Blue Burst is WAY more different, yet we don't have a forum, so why the HELL should PSO+ get one? @_@

PSO+ works with all other types of PSO GC. The only difference is a few changes that are supposed to prevent cheating, and offline East/West Tower, Seat of the Heart, and Central Dome Fire Swirl.

Since PSO+ is virtually identical, they could post a topic like "I need help in East Tower offline", or something. Doesn't need a new tag, at all.

EDIT: I needed to chill out. :3

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[Blitzkommando]

Hehe, Tone it down a bit there, eh? Yes, PSO+ is in no need of a new tag or anything, it is basically the same. I do agree Blue Burst should have its own forum, however, just give the Admin time, it takes work to keep a website up, to add to it is even more work. Having just a forum to keep up is quite enough work for me right now so I can understand the delay.

[kazuma56]

Explore new dungeons, uncover new rare items and download new quests!

I was refering to that Ketchup, don't now if the download new quests part was them talking about the mini-games but IMO, those aren't quests, but mini-games, it doesn't involve your PSO character.

[Genoa]

On 2004-09-15 15:31, Eihwaz wrote:
Dude, no way is PSO+ going to get a whole new forum. Blue Burst is WAY more different, yet we don't have a forum, so why the HELL should PSO+ get one? @_@

PSO+ works with all other types of PSO GC. The only difference is a few changes that are supposed to prevent cheating, and offline East/West Tower, Seat of the Heart, and Central Dome Fire Swirl.

Since PSO+ is virtually identical, they could post a topic like "I need help in East Tower offline", or something. Doesn't need a new tag, at all.

EDIT: I needed to chill out. :3

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*sigh*... I didn't mean a new forum for pso+... I meant the little labels that are on the TOPIC LABEL area when you create a new topic. You know, it says TOPIC LABEL, and you put something like MAG, then you put the title of your subject.
Example: it would say MAG: How you make a Sato?
That thingy. The part that's bolded next to the title!!! That can't be hard!

[Nai_Calus]

Dude, we don't even have a full set of BB topic tags, and you want tags nobody will remember to use for an only slightly different version? Besides, anyone n00bish enough to need help with Tower/etc won't know how to use topic tags anyway. XP

[Para]

really theres no point imo.

Its the samething either way. Just ask for tower help and that's all. Its nothing new to PSOGC players either PSO+ or not.

[Eihwaz]

On 2004-09-15 17:51, MegamanX wrote:
*sigh*... I didn't mean a new forum for pso+... I meant the little labels that are on the TOPIC LABEL area when you create a new topic. You know, it says TOPIC LABEL, and you put something like MAG, then you put the title of your subject.
Example: it would say MAG: How you make a Sato?
That thingy. The part that's bolded next to the title!!! That can't be hard!


Yeah, I meant that too. What Ian and Nites said. PSO+ is virtually the same as PSOGC, except if you're offline, it has more cool stuff to do.

It would be no different than some online person asking "I need some help soloing Towers" or something. Bleh.