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BrokenHope
07-03-2002, 06:11 AM
http://www.planetpso.com is reporting that the US version of gc pso could be coming as late as january or febuaruy if that was true it would suck for people who aren't importing.

At this moment in time it's just a rumur but i wouldn't put it past sonic team to delay the game it's not like they haven't before.

Here's the quote for those interested:

PSO launch date revealed

PSO for the Nintendo GameCube will be launched in Japan on August 8th 2002, which is sooner than most thought. With the modem, the game will cost 9800 yen, with the Hunters fee being 600 yen per month (30 days) Nintendo may announce US details in the coming weeks, and it may be ready to go January and Febuary next year in the US.

HC82
07-03-2002, 06:28 AM
I read that also and it seems like more of an assumption then anything official.

If they delay it that long it will hurt sales. FFXI is also coming out around that time, so releasing it here before then gives folk something play.

Greg
07-03-2002, 09:30 AM
I dont think that FFXI will hurt PSO too much on account that it looks like a boaring piece of shit

watashiwa
07-03-2002, 09:32 AM
On 2002-07-03 07:30, Greg wrote:
I dont think that FFXI will hurt PSO too much on account that it looks like a boaring piece of shit



Can I get an Amen?

SLyNKee
07-03-2002, 10:33 AM
AMEN

Something about futuristic games like PSO are more appealing to me, who wants to run around with horse and wagons i mean really

Riel
07-03-2002, 12:39 PM
Why the heck would they release the modem or broadband adapter in September,in North America,like some sites said if the only online game that the Gamecube will probably have,releases 5 months later????October sounds good to me,unless they delay the adapters as well.

Spy
07-03-2002, 12:45 PM
Nintendo/Sega doesn't really have an excuse as of yet to delay the game fot that long unless they are having server issues...

OMAR
07-03-2002, 12:49 PM
ah u guys are haters...in my opinion if finalfantasy XI didnt cost so much to play it would kick pso's ass....sure pso is freaking awesome...but finalfantasy has yet to let me down..XI looks awesome..the graphics,weapons, and monsters...the only thing they need is more costumes and bring down the price..i mean the adapter 40, hard drive 80+, the monthly fee around 10, and the game 50, not to mention the keyboard and broadband service fees...but it doesnt matter cause what im really waiting for is starwars galaxies...thats is what i call a mmorpg....anyway pso is great but i dnt think its fair to bash ffXI ...it seems ps2 cant get a break from u guys:p anyway i doubt pso will be delayed till next year....it would be dumb...then again only having 1 online title for the gc is also dumb:p

jello44
07-03-2002, 12:55 PM
wow, and here I thought I was the only one who thinks that FFXI looks like crap. I mean, it reminds me of evercrack..

Anyway.. I still see the game coming out around Octoberish, I mean, why release the modems in September? Regardless, I'm still not importing.

MarkXIII
07-03-2002, 01:02 PM
http://www.ebworld.com has changed it's ship date from 10/1 to 10/29. Modem an BBA still remain the same, which is weird. They now have a pic of the BBA but not the modem...not like it matters though. heh

GhoStar
07-03-2002, 01:04 PM
ah u guys are haters...in my opinion if finalfantasy XI didnt cost so much to play it would kick pso's ass....I don't think it would. Most people who want MMORPGs want them on the PC, and that is where they are best suited.

In Japan FFXI has been selling horribly (meaning PSO is still the most succesful online game in Japan) and is plagued with patches and shoddy servers. They have to take them down and update pretty much every few days, from what I hear. Let's not even mention the way FFXI needs patches and such.

:b

Personally I'm going to wait until another online game comes along before I invest in Sony's HDD and modem.

Basically FFXI will be Square's second FF:TSW.

:b

OMAR
07-03-2002, 01:12 PM
well its doing bad in japan..because sony and square f-up on the launch and servers...but really the game doesnt look that bad...and anyway like i said before starwars galaxies is going to be 20 times better than ffxi and maybe 3 times better than pso..lol.pso is great but u gotta admit it is linear...no story...only 4 people can play..and hackers are everywhere in pso... im just going to stick to pso, starwars, and whatever xbox has to offer since its just 50 bucks for the year..wahoo cant wait till mechassault and other xbox online games:) anyway im just going on and on so i will end it now...(dnt hate ffxi...cause no doubt its prbably better than 50% of the games out)

GhoStar
07-03-2002, 01:25 PM
The Japanese aren't buying FFXI because they don't like MMORPGs (PSO isn't one). At all. It doesn't matter what label you throw on the game.

There were shortages but even with those over the game is selling badly.

As for Star Wars, I've never even heard of it.

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I don't own an Xbox and have no plans to, so it doesn't really matter anyway.

EDIT: oops, shoulda said FFXI... My bad!

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Kent
07-03-2002, 02:31 PM
On 2002-07-03 11:25, GhoStar wrote:
The Japanese aren't buying PSO because they don't like MMORPGs.


PSO isn't a MMORPG.

Just an online role-playing game.

Ian D
07-03-2002, 02:36 PM
Okay stay on topic fellas... I don't think they are going to delay it because they said PSO is Nintendo's online plan of 2002. They could have lied but if it is delayed to 2003 Nintendo will be way behind with online games.

Brus
07-03-2002, 03:04 PM
yeah, if it comes out next year, i'll be sure to cry gallons. And it wasn't just ANY website that said the modems are coming out in sep, it was the official nintendo website itself, and i believe they just recently added those dates as well.

Javier_Von_Fenrir
07-03-2002, 03:42 PM
On 2002-07-03 07:30, Greg wrote:
I dont think that FFXI will hurt PSO too much on account that it looks like a boaring piece of shit




Funny how you think agame that you ahvent' played yet is BORING (learn to spell). Anyways FFXI has many things over PSO, such as an overworld and much more freedom than PSO.

I love PSO, but I've come to realize that there many more superior Online RPGS.

Wewt
07-03-2002, 03:49 PM
On 2002-07-03 13:42, Javier_Von_Fenrir wrote:

Funny how you think agame that you ahvent' played yet is BORING (learn to spell). Anyways FFXI has many things over PSO, such as an overworld and much more freedom than PSO.

I love PSO, but I've come to realize that there many more superior Online RPGS.



http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif cool grammar and typing skillz@@@@@



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DarthWufei
07-03-2002, 04:17 PM
Heh, I really doubt the game wil get pushed back that far. Sad though... that people don't understand how big it is for a 3rd party to move to a new console. Just because things happened on the DC doesn't always stay true with other consoles. ST could do whatever they wanted with v1/2.. heh the game was on a Sega system.

It's a different matter this time, Sega isn't totally incharge. I really don't think there's another system worthy enough for PSO, heh and without NIntendo that system wouldn't exist. Yeah yeah say xbox, but really... DC was always a cheap and effiecient system... PS2 and Xbox are not. GC is.

Parn
07-03-2002, 04:31 PM
On 2002-07-03 13:42, Javier_Von_Fenrir wrote:

Funny how you think agame that you ahvent' played yet is BORING (learn to spell). Anyways FFXI has many things over PSO, such as an overworld and much more freedom than PSO.

I love PSO, but I've come to realize that there many more superior Online RPGS.


Nonsense. If they're superior, why are you here? Why aren't you playing your superior online RPGs?

What people fail to realize is that "expansive lands" doesn't mean crap. After you look at them once or twice, the novelty wears off, and you end up going to specific areas anyways to kill certain monsters. People cried wanting an expanded Pioneer 2 (even me at one time), but what's the point? Okay, Pioneer 2 gets larger... after you see the new stuff, you're back to square one anyways.

I've played enough MMORPGs to realize that the action-based combat of PSO is all that's needed to put other online games to shame. As long as the auto-attack system remains in your typical MMORPG, they will remain inferior, because combat is the core of any online RPG.

You can go ahead with Ragnarok Online or Everquest and sit down for about 3 minutes after each tough fight to heal yourself... I'll stick with PSO.

GhoStar
07-03-2002, 05:36 PM
Anyways FFXI has many things over PSO, such as an overworld and much more freedom than PSO. Yes, and Bloody Roar has many things over Street Fighter 2. That's not saying much, and I've played MMORPGs with more freedom than PSO. Didn't mean I enjoyed them anymore... I just got frustrated and soon forgot about them...

Rubesahl
07-03-2002, 06:30 PM
On 2002-07-03 15:36, GhoStar wrote:
Anyways FFXI has many things over PSO, such as an overworld and much more freedom than PSO. Yes, and Bloody Roar has many things over Street Fighter 2. That's not saying much, and I've played MMORPGs with more freedom than PSO. Didn't mean I enjoyed them anymore... I just got frustrated and soon forgot about them...


Yes it's true. I sincerely preffer PSO over a MMORPG, but not counting PSO as one either. I just like the game more. Why? Cause it's much more fun @___@ For example: Everquest. I admmit I was one of the first people that bought that game. You start off just fine but it get near damn impossible O_____o I then switched to Anarchy Online which is more fun and I know have Dark Age of Camelot which rocks too ^___^ I see FF XI as a good game that would be good on PC. Which it will be on PC and that's where I plan buying it. Who wouldn't like seeing the game with "actual anti-aliasing" http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif The game concept looks pretty cool too but I'm still in "wait and see". PSO is the funnest online game I have ever played. I like it's Action-RPG style which gives depth in character developing with stats and all but at the same time keeps you in it with action. I'm kinda sad PSO isn't considered a MMORPG which I know it isn't. But I find it more fun than a massive multiplayer game. I would like to see PSO going into the next level. With an actual online persistent world but at the same time I'm afraid of it losing the same feeling we all know.
As for picking GC because it is Cheap and efficient. Yeah it's true. But now the Xbox would be the second cheapest and equally efficient. Yes GC is quite good and I think it deserves equal attention with Xbox. Why limmit yourself with GC only when there's another system which is good too? That's why it's disturbing for me hearing "not planning on getting one" because people really don't know what they're missing. Same with Xbox owners that don't plan getting a GC. That's my opinion anyway. Same as it is yours.

GhoStar
07-03-2002, 06:46 PM
I still say PSO is best described as an Online A.RPG (A = Action).

There's a horrible stigma attached to MMORPGs, and I just can't put my finger on it. I still feel they definitely need to stay on PCs. I dread the day patching on consoles becomes the norm...

Wang_Tang
07-03-2002, 08:03 PM
well i read a few of the replies to this thread... but im full from pizza, so for some reason my reading patience and ability is hindered, so i will say this:

i dont really care when gc pso is coming out, because in my mind, its never gonna come out. there's no point in waiting for another god damn game, because we all waited long enough for DC pso v2. i'd rather spend my time doing more worthwhile things, like GETTING OUT OF THE DAMN HOUSE. hehe. anyways yeah, video games are making me fat and lazy, and i'd rather spend time with my girlfriend, and other things. live in the moment, not in the future.

Javier_Von_Fenrir
07-04-2002, 09:26 AM
On 2002-07-03 13:49, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:

On 2002-07-03 13:42, Javier_Von_Fenrir wrote:

Funny how you think agame that you ahvent' played yet is BORING (learn to spell). Anyways FFXI has many things over PSO, such as an overworld and much more freedom than PSO.

I love PSO, but I've come to realize that there many more superior Online RPGS.



http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif cool grammar and typing skillz@@@@@



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: WWWWWWWWWWWW on 2002-07-03 13:52 ]</font>



Don't you have enough common since to see it was a "typo".

Javier_Von_Fenrir
07-04-2002, 09:33 AM
On 2002-07-03 14:31, Parn wrote:

On 2002-07-03 13:42, Javier_Von_Fenrir wrote:

Funny how you think agame that you ahvent' played yet is BORING (learn to spell). Anyways FFXI has many things over PSO, such as an overworld and much more freedom than PSO.

I love PSO, but I've come to realize that there many more superior Online RPGS.


Nonsense. If they're superior, why are you here? Why aren't you playing your superior online RPGs?




Just Becuase FFXI is superior to PSO doesn't mean I do not infd PSO fun. OBVIOUSLY if I'm here posting in the forums it is because I have a liking for PSO aswell. If you had read my first post more thoroughly you would've seen that I had typed "I love PSO, but I've come to realize that there many more superior Online RPGS."

Second of all, an overwolrd would at so much to the game. Rather than just go to random places on Ragol you would actually walk form place to place , lvling up on that way and encountering other online players as you go through.

Third of all, it's all a matter of taste and opinion. I believe an overworld would add many great things to PSO; but you see things differently, I respect that. You're entitled to say what you want and so am I. Just don't go saying "FFXI sucks" as a fact, last time I checked how a game sells doesn't mean it is necessarily good. Cause there are alot of crap games out there, that sell very well and very great games (Ex: Xenogears and Guilty Gear) that don't/didn't sell well.

Parn
07-04-2002, 10:16 AM
On 2002-07-03 13:42, Javier_Von_Fenrir wrote:

Just Becuase FFXI is superior to PSO doesn't mean I do not infd PSO fun. OBVIOUSLY if I'm here posting in the forums it is because I have a liking for PSO aswell. If you had read my first post more thoroughly you would've seen that I had typed "I love PSO, but I've come to realize that there many more superior Online RPGS."

And the new PSO isn't currently out. Why are you here instead of at the respective sites/forums for the superior online RPGs? Shouldn't you be playing Everquest/Ultima Online/whatever?

I never said you didn't like PSO, don't put words in my mouth.

Second of all, an overwolrd would at so much to the game. Rather than just go to random places on Ragol you would actually walk form place to place , lvling up on that way and encountering other online players as you go through.

Yeah, for the first month. And like I said in the previous post, the novelty wears off, and you go back to hitting specific areas and dungeons.

PSO eliminates the dead time which has made several online RPGs boring. A great amount of time was wasted spending 10 minutes running from Tir to whatever mission I recieved during my Anarchy Online playtime. I had already seen all of the land around Tir, alongside neighboring areas, and the monsters along the way were way below my level. There's nothing fun about 10 minutes of wasted time.

Then there's games like Ragnarok Online where a good bit of time is spent sitting down to recover health. What fun is sitting down and waiting for your health/magic point meters going back up?

Ultima Online... 90% of the population uses Recall and Gate Travel. Who the hell walks from one place to another, exception going to the Ilshenar facet?

If PSO had an "overworld" and a larger Pioneer 2 with shops spread across to make you have to spend a minute running from shop to shop like in your standard MMORPG, I would go insane. PSO cuts the dead time and goes straight to what matters: killing monsters.

Third of all, it's all a matter of taste and opinion. I believe an overworld would add many great things to PSO; but you see things differently, I respect that. You're entitled to say what you want and so am I. Just don't go saying "FFXI sucks" as a fact, last time I checked how a game sells doesn't mean it is necessarily good. Cause there are alot of crap games out there, that sell very well and very great games (Ex: Xenogears and Guilty Gear) that don't/didn't sell well.

Again, don't put words in my mouth. Show me where I said FFXI sucks.

I said MMORPGs are inferior. How is that any different than your saying they're superior?

And regarding sales of a game, I don't know where the hell you pulled that one from. When did I use sales of FFXI as a support for my argument?

You say don't bash a game you haven't played... contrary-wise, how about you don't praise a game you haven't played? It's apparent that you don't own it since if you did, you'd be playing it even now. Unless it's not as good as you wanted to believe.

If your idea of a superior game is real-time combat relying almost entirely on die rolls, then great. I can't help but wonder why you aren't playing Asheron's Call, Everquest, Anarchy Online, Dark Age of Camelot, Ultima Online, or any other MMORPG, and are instead, here on a PSO message board discussing a game that has yet to be released. It just doesn't make sense.

Wewt
07-04-2002, 10:29 AM
On 2002-07-04 07:26, Javier_Von_Fenrir wrote:
Don't you have enough common since to see it was a "typo".


Of course I saw they were typos. I just wanted to be an asshole like you and point out mistakes.

As for other RPGs...the reason I like PSO is plain and simple. The game was great from the start.

Games that I can just pick up and play and have fun playing it right away are the kind that I like. If the game has some depth to it then that would be a big bonus.

Like Parn said, PSO cuts the dead time...the shops, your item bank, the healing places are all close together so I can go sell my items, grab something from my bank and heal within a minute. This means I don't have to run all over the place to do this.

As for FFXI...I have mixed feelings on this. Some friends have said some good things about it, some have pinpointed it's major faults.

To stay on topic, the US version of GameCube PSO's release date. Wait and see if the modem and BBA are set back, if they are...then we all know if they game will most likely be delayed or not.
I've only had trouble with release dates for 2 games in the past, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Perfect Dark.

shinokou
07-04-2002, 11:40 AM
I dont think this game will be being delayed THAT much, there is simply NO REASON! They should catch the christmas rush at least.

FFXI is not going to be big until it comes to the US. BUT, though I have not played it, i think the game looks really bad, and patches too much - but by the time the US gets it, i think it'll be much more polished. If i have a PS2 by then, perhaps i'll give it a go - but i'd rather play PSO than an MMORPG any day.

God, the past 7 posts or something have been these people bickering and arguing! cant we place an opinion without flaming/being a smartass?

GhoStar
07-04-2002, 11:41 AM
Just Becuase FFXI is superior to PSO doesn't mean I do not infd PSO fun.

Just don't go saying "FFXI sucks" as a fact

Yet you're so willing to proclaim a game you've never played (FFXI) is "superior" to PSO?

You even put that across as a fact yourself.

The only hands-on impressions of FFXI I've read were on Xengamers.com and they were far from positive. Coupled with fading Japanese interest in the game and I see no reason to be at all compelled to go and buy the game and its add-ons for a game that can only be played online...

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Rubesahl
07-04-2002, 12:34 PM
It's a matter of taste but most MMORPGs have failed in getting players into the game as PSO has. I'm waiting for the day that an MMORPG comes and can be just as fun as PSO. Maybe it'll be PSO2, maybe it'll be Sta Wars Galaxies... Dunno yet.

On subject, I think there is a possibillity of being delayed. I really wish it weren't for poor US players who aren't importing. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Ian D
07-04-2002, 12:38 PM
On subject, I think there is a possibillity of being delayed. I really wish it weren't for poor US players who aren't importing. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


Are you calling me poor?! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rant.gif

Malkavian
07-04-2002, 01:30 PM
Yeah like many said PSO is much more fun than any mmorpg, well this depends on what each one prefers but say ffxi is superior as a fact isn't too clever.
And i haven't seen them in my eyes, but i've seen videos of both and PSO gc looks graphically better than ffxi

Dangerous55
07-04-2002, 01:30 PM
If it comes out then I wont buy it. Thats bullshit if it does. Serisouly, just code the Japanese version so it plays on US GC's, it has a English option.

I didnt know FFXI was out yet, I think it looks like a waste. The HD is 150, the game is 50, the p2p is 10 or 15. And every character costs 75 cents. Thats moronc.