A complete ramarl

[Luis]

i was playing ttf today and 3 rangers and 1 hunter, no forces that means no good support BUT...

this is what i define like a COMPLETE Ramarl, her name is Usada, i was impressed in the way that usada, did support, damage, healing all in the same very moment. very fast, i played with forces that you need to ask for SD, but usada is not that way she casted deband and shifta before i needed to ask, and jellen/zalure when i need it, also froozing the enemies, and resurecting the people at the very second. i dont see rangers playing like this often in the online world and is one of a very few players that i define like a COMPLETE EXPERT player. i hope to see more Usadas online.

[TheOneHero]

Yes, Usada is pretty good in supporting. I've played with him before. ^_^

Side note: In case you didn't know: Usada = Tingle. Tingle = guy. =p

Edit* Can't believe I forgot this: Usada is also good not just in supporting but in everything.

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[Sayara]

I thank you Luis, but that was absolutely the most challanging and chaotic madness i've ever done. If i have to do that again you better beleive im getting my Mariana bag! Oy!

I wish my stinking Deband was better though, it dies so quick (compared to its Shifta at 20, Deband is at 16). My resta range is soo weak compared to Tingle's though it was mind boggling, i had to run to reach people! Im not use to that. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I kinda wish though people survived more, i'll need to be more careful. Though it was neat getting all the TP i used back with my Geist Laser (which is what i did like all the time when attacking.) Low Attack hits but still killing foes. Bwahaha.

[Sayara]

Yes, Usada is pretty good in supporting. I've played with him before. ^_^

Side note: In case you didn't know: Usada = Tingle. Tingle = guy. =p


Well is Usada a he now eh? We dont need to tell the world my gender now boyyy

[Luis]

hey we didnt exchanged guild cards!!!

[TheOneHero]

On 2004-11-16 19:29, Tingle wrote:

Well is Usada a he now eh? We dont need to tell the world my gender now boyyy



Hey look eagles!

*shriek and other...sounds*

So Tingle when can we play again?

[Sayara]

Well Hero, whenever i am on and you are on and your not busy, nor am i.

and Luis - Oh crud! I knew we forgot something! Dont worry though, we'll run into each other again. That i know.

[RicoRoyal]

Shouldn't ALL of you be hunting my Fatsia? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif (smilie...)

Yes, RAmarls serve as very good support, and not just as eye candy. If Usada is so good at supporting, it's cause Tingle has a PhD in FOnewearlism.

[TheOneHero]

On 2004-11-16 19:56, RicoRoyal wrote:
Shouldn't ALL of you be hunting my Fatsia? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif (smilie...)



Get on now and I shall help you. ^_^

[Hrith]

Looks like I should play with Tingle ^__^

Talking about RAmarl, Ryna is also an excellent RAmarl, in all that Luis said in his first post.

[Miroku77]

On 2004-11-16 19:56, RicoRoyal wrote:
Shouldn't ALL of you be hunting my Fatsia? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif (smilie...)


You know as well as I do that if I find a fatsia with hit, that i will be keeping it...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif (wacko)

[Ketchup345]

Being a support RAmarl isn't that hard (at least to me). I actually find it quite easy and enjoyable.

I was always the support character in my offline multiplayer games (others were often a HUmar and HUcaseal). And when I got online, I always volunteered to fill in for the FOrce (somehow almost every game I was in rarely ever had a FOrce).

Level 20 Shifta/Deband/Jellen/Zalure/Resta and level 7 Anti (with up to 1177 max MST on a HUnewearl, 1031 MST as a RAmarl)are very good for supporting when necessary.

If you are a HUnewearl of RAmarl in a game without a FOrce, you should be filling in that position first; if not, you just aren't that good of a HUnewearl/RAmarl player.

[Sha_Hua]

On 2004-11-16 19:29, Tingle wrote:
Yes, Usada is pretty good in supporting. I've played with him before. ^_^

Side note: In case you didn't know: Usada = Tingle. Tingle = guy. =p


Well is Usada a he now eh? We dont need to tell the world my gender now boyyy


It might be a shock, but most players are male.
I always assume the others players are male. That way I don't have to Apologize for gessing wrong al the time. That or people just don't care what I say?!

But why do you mind if the whole world knows?
What kind of sick things were you planning?!
Just kidding


Keep up the good support

[Blitzkommando]

On 2004-11-17 10:19, Ketchup345 wrote:
Being a support RAmarl isn't that hard (at least to me). I actually find it quite easy and enjoyable.

I was always the support character in my offline multiplayer games (others were often a HUmar and HUcaseal). And when I got online, I always volunteered to fill in for the FOrce (somehow almost every game I was in rarely ever had a FOrce).

Level 20 Shifta/Deband/Jellen/Zalure/Resta and level 7 Anti (with up to 1177 max MST on a HUnewearl, 1031 MST as a RAmarl)are very good for supporting when necessary.

If you are a HUnewearl of RAmarl in a game without a FOrce, you should be filling in that position first; if not, you just aren't that good of a HUnewearl/RAmarl player.


Based on my experiences, you have it a bit backwards, for myself anyway. I have logged in around 2000+ hours combined HUnewearl/RAmarl, and maybe 300 hours with all forces I have combined. However, I started really getting into PSO with the RAmarl class. I saw the benefits, and the weaknesses of the RAmarl class based upon stats alone. I tried it out, and found I loved it. Now, here is my reasoning behind why I feel RAmarl/HUnewearl are stepping stones to being a truely great force.

First off, it taught me how to support with far more limited resources than a true force, lower technique levels, lower technique range, and more importantly, MST, TP, and strength. Of course RAmarl and HUnewearl have a higher strength than all other nonforces, TP is still about half and range and strength are far less. This taught me that I need to be at the brunt of force, up ahead, where I can support, cast, and damage.

Another reason I feel it was better is that, while I had the worst HP out of the hunter and ranger classes. This taught me how to survive with such low HP, something key to being a force.

Also, because my range and strength on techniques was sharply cut, I had to find efficient ways of casting. Not only efficient though, but fast. While technique time is set, the time getting into position is not.

And to Tingle-> Why use Marina's bag? A Resta Merge is far easier to aquire and allows the user the range of Resta. It has decent resists for Light and Dark, 0s for others though... Also, RAmarls have insane EVP and DEF as is, when used with a good armor the loss with Deband and Jellen is pretty much nullified. Try it, forces are not the only classes that should use merges. ;p

[Ketchup345]

I too have hundreds more hours on my RAmarl than my FOrces combined. RAmarl was also my first and main class.

Of course supporting is going to be harder than on atrue FOrce, but it is still possible and helps greatly.
Going support first is not that hard. Its not like RAmarl/HUnewearl will be casting damage techs; they will often only be using 3-4 techs (Resta, Zalure, Jellen, maybe Anti) total in battle. Setting up for techs isn't too hard (Jellen and Zalure may require a tiny bit of running first but still isn't that hard), and can often be done before and after firing off a Needle combo (especially for Zalure then Jellen). Shifta and Deband can easily be restored in a hallway (everyone should flock to the temporary FOrce when they run out anyways). Plus RAmarls can easily use Geist weapons (like my Geist Needle that I love).

Why use Marina's Bag? Don't forget that resta has an extra range when both are combined (and is even longer on the female FOrces).

[Sayara]

I want the mariana bag because i need a bit of a defense boost <.< The Resta merge will lower my already low Defense. Plus the anti boost too is convient. (doesnt it boost anti too? or is this Tingle's Foney ability?) but thats just me.

[Sharkyland]

I don't play my RAmarl much (Zhee), but I've been lvling my other characters for some strange reason EVEN though their at ult and have the same ID.

I am always experiencing a lot of games with no FOs and I find myself as the support HUne. Sometimes happens in cmode sometimes... hey you HUne, you FO now. Also what's nice if you have two RAmarls or two HUnes, one should split jellen and zalure responsibilities if they are both at 20. Sometimes takes too long to cast both.

[Klaus88]

If u want to play with support, try playing with me.

And yes i use a marinas bag.

[Sayara]

Ok. i will consider that. Regardless as soon as i make a Resta merge, i'll give it a shot with Usada, and see how bad it kills her defense.

Before you ask why, i like defense, its like my security blanket.

[PJ]

On 2004-11-17 15:54, Ketchup345 wrote:
Going support first is not that hard. Its not like RAmarl/HUnewearl will be casting damage techs; they will often only be using 3-4 techs (Resta, Zalure, Jellen, maybe Anti) total in battle.

I dunno... if my characters can, they WILL be using Rafoie. I mean, not like tech spamming, but even my HUmar uses it (Less so my RAmarl, but that's because they seem to have such a crappy MST growth >_>;;; )

Rafoie is just so useful... and sometimes I'll switch it to Rabarta.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-11-18 14:08, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:
I dunno... if my characters can, they WILL be using Rafoie. I mean, not like tech spamming, but even my HUmar uses it (Less so my RAmarl, but that's because they seem to have such a crappy MST growth >_>;;; )

Rafoie is just so useful... and sometimes I'll switch it to Rabarta.


Do you do this to do serious damage, or just to tag enemies?

Because if to tag, then Jellen/Zalure do that for you anyways. You are probably able to do more damage with your Needle than with Rafoie to most enemies.

[PJ]

It's not to do serious damage, or to tag. I'm using Jellen/Zalure prior to doing anything anyways.

Like, when you're surrounded, nothing will hit all the enemies around you.