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biggabertha
Mar 26, 2005, 09:03 PM
Why must the best character for offline games be the ugliest? I am talking about the FOnewm... I love his stats, his great boosts, the fact that he's powerful and has TP regenerating abilities as a newman, but why is he so darn ugly? He looks great in drawings (As does the RAmar but that backpack...) but the only way to make a FOnewm look good is making him look like Peko from Ep 3... Short and fat so that his great big behind doesn't look as bad. Making him tall and thin is really a recipe for disaster... Please, can someone else tell me why hasn't he even got a good costume...

PJ
Mar 26, 2005, 09:05 PM
Taste is subjective.

Frankly, I'm more curious as to why you're looking at their butts http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v718/PJ_PSO/Episode_1_2/Bloody_Art/Budofinish.png

Wyndham
Mar 26, 2005, 09:35 PM
I think FOnewms that look like evil Jester's are damn cool-looking.

Jason
Mar 26, 2005, 09:46 PM
FOnewms doesn't have fat behinds, it is the costume that make it look that way.

Sayara
Mar 26, 2005, 09:48 PM
Indeed. You notice that from the Character Image you see when you select Fonewm on the Class Select (or on a guidebook)

but in honesty... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/Snoopychan/snapshot_180804_173013.png is the ugliest. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif Fonewerals sure have some nasty makeup combos. :/

Hrith
Mar 26, 2005, 09:53 PM
Nothing is uglier than a HUmar, N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

Sayara
Mar 26, 2005, 09:54 PM
Hey, a nicely done Humar can at least look like a pretty boy. XP

Nai_Calus
Mar 26, 2005, 10:11 PM
On 2005-03-26 18:53, Kef wrote:
Nothing is uglier than a HUmar, N-O-T-H-I-N-G.



http://www.iankunx.net/ianface.jpg

Oh...? Ian would like to argue with you. ;_;

FOnewearls are the ugliest fucking things in existance. Every single goddamned one is the same: Hideous face paint, god-awful hairstyle, ridiculous costume(Usually the ones where it looks like panties under the skirt), and the size of a five-year old child with enormous breasts, and the asshole who owns it gushing about how sexy their little kid character is. Ugh.

Nothing else comes close, not even the sluttiest, skankiest HUnewearl dragging under the weight of her 42JJ breasts...

Sayara
Mar 26, 2005, 10:15 PM
See! Someone agrees with me. >.>

Though you can MAKE a Foney look acceptable.

Wyndham
Mar 26, 2005, 10:17 PM
I think I'll agree that FOnewerals are the ugliest character, but fat RAmars with goatees are pretty creepy.
the remind you of the type of person who's 36 and still living in their parents' basement looking at hentai all day.

biggabertha
Mar 26, 2005, 10:17 PM
okay, the reason why I am looking at their butts is because that is what you see waggling in front of you. Damn their hideous costumes!!! But I am interested to see a FOnewm dressed as an evil jester...

My HUmar looks okay... I think... But then again I well and truly detest their stupid costumes... Only two... Maybe three of them look alright but they all look like they're wearing wigs... Only RAcast and HUcaseal really look any good... RAcast with the biggest shoulders possible and the chunkiest legs look absolutely awesome! HUcaseal looks quite stealthy in some suits and if she is made as short as possible, she looks funny with a sword equipped!

Jason
Mar 26, 2005, 10:22 PM
I would say a RAmar is uglier compare to a HUmar.

Wyndham
Mar 26, 2005, 10:26 PM
On 2005-03-26 19:17, biggabertha wrote:
okay, the reason why I am looking at their butts is because that is what you see waggling in front of you. Damn their hideous costumes!!! But I am interested to see a FOnewm dressed as an evil jester...

My HUmar looks okay... I think... But then again I well and truly detest their stupid costumes... Only two... Maybe three of them look alright but they all look like they're wearing wigs... Only RAcast and HUcaseal really look any good... RAcast with the biggest shoulders possible and the chunkiest legs look absolutely awesome! HUcaseal looks quite stealthy in some suits and if she is made as short as possible, she looks funny with a sword equipped!



I take minor offense to that.
you only cjhoose robots because they have either A: huge armour, or B: look like ninjas.
ninjas are horribly overdone these days, and Huge armor is really seen too much in videogames.
the only HUmars i Dislike are the afro HUmars.
and my FOmar looks pretty cool with his Elysion. (I use it for making him look cool)
and also, I think HUnewerals could use improvement, but ones in less revealing ostumes are fine by me.
I think they were made with more revealing costumes to sattire the slutty image that's expected for girls to follow by the media.

Eihwaz
Mar 26, 2005, 11:14 PM
FOnewms look cool. Deal with the butt. :3

Also, the ugliest character is probably one of those RAcasts with one of those HIDEOUS random color schemes that's like, purple, green, and orange. x_x

PJ
Mar 26, 2005, 11:22 PM
Frankly, I wouldn't have made any of my characters if I thought they were ugly. (Although, as an experiment, I did change PJ's hair to long hair... he looks so short now http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif )

So, in short, ugly characters are whatever you make them. You make them ugly, and that is how they are. And again, I will say, taste is subjective.

EDIT: After rereading what I said, it makes no sense. So, in english:

All classes are cool
People choose to make them ugly, with the power of character creation

http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

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BoarDemon
Mar 27, 2005, 12:36 AM
On 2005-03-26 19:26, Oran1324 wrote:
and also, I think HUnewerals could use improvement, but ones in less revealing ostumes are fine by me.
I think they were made with more revealing costumes to sattire the slutty image that's expected for girls to follow by the media.



Lol, possibly.

ForceOfBrokenGlass
Mar 27, 2005, 01:36 AM
On 2005-03-26 18:53, Kef wrote:
Nothing is uglier than a HUmar, N-O-T-H-I-N-G.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Oddplume/PSO/fbd827c8.bmp
Ahem!


On 2005-03-26 18:48, Tingle wrote:
Indeed. You notice that from the Character Image you see when you select Fonewm on the Class Select (or on a guidebook)

but in honesty... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/Snoopychan/snapshot_180804_173013.png is the ugliest. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif Fonewerals sure have some nasty makeup combos. :/



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Oddplume/PSO/f9620390.bmp
Ditch the Makeup.

In short, there's a lot of crummy looks for characters in PSO. I guess it's not the limited character customization it's just that too many costumes look the same and too many horrible faces.

Look at androids. Only 5 heads per class and most of em are horrible.

For most other classes it's a large amount of costumes that look all too similar except a few color changes and being forced to either wear a hat or no hat.

How is it that RAmars and FOmars are the only male classes with facial hair? Why are RAmarls the only class outside of Forces with hats? Why do androids have so many color settings but most are awful? I could go on with the questions but the point is, with the few good looks there's far too many awful ones.

BoarDemon
Mar 27, 2005, 01:39 AM
On 2005-03-26 22:36, ForceOfBrokenGlass wrote:


On 2005-03-26 18:53, Kef wrote:
Nothing is uglier than a HUmar, N-O-T-H-I-N-G.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Oddplume/PSO/fbd827c8.bmp
Ahem!


On 2005-03-26 18:48, Tingle wrote:
Indeed. You notice that from the Character Image you see when you select Fonewm on the Class Select (or on a guidebook)

but in honesty... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/Snoopychan/snapshot_180804_173013.png is the ugliest. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif Fonewerals sure have some nasty makeup combos. :/



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Oddplume/PSO/f9620390.bmp
Ditch the Makeup.

In short, there's a lot of crummy looks for characters in PSO. I guess it's not the limited character customization it's just that too many costumes look the same and too many horrible faces.

Look at androids. Only 5 heads per class and most of em are horrible.

For most other classes it's a large amount of costumes that look all too similar except a few color changes and being forced to either wear a hat or no hat.

How is it that RAmars and FOmars are the only male classes with facial hair? Why are RAmarls the only class outside of Forces with hats? Why do androids have so many color settings but most are awful? I could go on with the questions but the point is, with the few good looks there's far too many awful ones.



This is all opinion.

Skorpius
Mar 27, 2005, 02:39 AM
On 2005-03-26 18:53, Kef wrote:
Nothing is uglier than a HUmar, N-O-T-H-I-N-G.


http://pso-world.com/images/classes/ramar.jpg


On 2005-03-26 22:39, BoarDemon wrote:
This is all opinion.

Congratulations on the CAPTAIN OBVIOUS AWARD OF THE WEEK. This topic is ALL opinions. :|



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RicoRoyal
Mar 27, 2005, 03:02 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ricoroyal/5zgcg.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ricoroyal/snapshot_210105_192735.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ricoroyal/rico5.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ricoroyal/snapshot_210105_192716.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ricoroyal/rico7.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ricoroyal/ricoA.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ricoroyal/rico3.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ricoroyal/rico1.png

And best for last...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ricoroyal/rico4.png
My large metallic skirt - you know you want it http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

That FOnewm there is actually at max height http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif
Yes, there is hope. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

Pictures courtesy of Kef, TheOneHero and Vielka.

Skorpius
Mar 27, 2005, 03:18 AM
Skorpius: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Snapshots/Characters/Friends/snapshot_111004_131955.png
Del Ian: T_T
Del Ian: FOmars like that make the baby Ian cry.

Hrith
Mar 27, 2005, 05:28 AM
Thanks you for supporting my idea that nothing is uglier than HUmar, people http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Neith
Mar 27, 2005, 07:45 AM
Hey, some FOnewearl's aren't too bad, although some of them look stupid. I just found the pic of my FOnewearl, which I don't think is too bad compared to some others.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/jordison197666/Cython1.png
See, covered up http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Other than that, I think that HUmars look a bit... stupid in certain ways. (the barcode on the side of the head if you have one of the hairstyles.)Why a barcode?

Saiffy
Mar 27, 2005, 08:52 AM
On 2005-03-27 02:28, Kef wrote:
Thanks you for supporting my idea that nothing is uglier than HUmar, people http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif


http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif


I would have to agree with Wazzy, some of those completely random RAcasts costumes are so...ugly


See? Even Wazzy thinks so Tycho

Corey
Mar 27, 2005, 09:04 AM
Very well, you can have this ugly thing if you all can't agree on something.

http://pso-world.com/images/screenshots/secretcharacters/ellynohead2.jpg

Ain't that NPC pretty?


Zombie Elly, if you are stupid.

biggabertha
Mar 27, 2005, 09:24 AM
[quote]




And best for last...

My large metallic skirt - you know you want it

That FOnewm there is actually at max height
Yes, there is hope.

Pictures courtesy of Kef, TheOneHero and Vielka.

Hmmmm.... You know.... That isn't actually bad....

EDIT: (sigh) I'm retarded... I can't even post some quoted pictures...


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Neith
Mar 27, 2005, 09:49 AM
Close up pic of my FOney, this is the only make-up I can stand on one. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif Well, I reckon she's better than some other FOney's Ive seen..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/jordison197666/CythonCloseUp.png

Tycho
Mar 27, 2005, 09:58 AM
Newms can look pretty cool, RicoRoyal's FOnewm is proof of that. Like Jason said, it's because of the clothes. All classes can look hideous, but all of them can look decent as well. I personally think small RAcasts with flat heads look bad. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif



On 2005-03-26 19:11, Ian-KunX wrote:
FOnewearls are the ugliest fucking things in existance.

Nothing else comes close, not even the sluttiest, skankiest HUnewearl dragging under the weight of her 42JJ breasts...


It looks like you just hate the class for some reason. You should say that, instead of blaming it all on the possibilities of the class's looks. I find a lot of FOnewearls ugly myself.
But who are you to judge a girl's looks anyway? <_<



On 2005-03-26 18:53, Kef wrote:
Nothing is uglier than a HUmar, N-O-T-H-I-N-G.


http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif
Humars can look okay, and RAmars and FOmars can look pretty horrible too (I have some particular ones in mind >_>), but.. I share your opinion.



EDIT:



See? Even Wazzy thinks so Tycho


No! Shut up, my RAcast looks cute! ;-;


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adamgnome104
Mar 27, 2005, 01:29 PM
Don't Diss FOnewms, mine has awesome Monomate shoes!

Nai_Calus
Mar 27, 2005, 04:14 PM
Yes, I do hate FOnewearls for a reason, Tycho. The reason that they're all fucking ugly.

FOnewearl is the ONLY non-droid class where there is only one face I'd even ever consider using. HUmar? 2 and 4. HUnewearl? Forget the numbers, but it's the purple eyes and the green eyes. RAmar? The one with the goatee, the asian-looking one and the one with the camoflauge paint. RAmarl? The one with purple eyes and the one with camo paint. FOmar? 1, 2 and 4. FOmarl? Almost all of them, really. FOnewm? 1 and 4. Even the female droids each have two tolerable heads.

FOnewearl? Only one that isn't hideous is #4. Guess which one half the world uses? Oh, and because of the way the proportions are done, if you try to make a tall FOnl so it's not a bloody 5-year-old child, the eyes on that one look really fucking ugly. Plus the FOnewearl does not increase in height well. X_x; She ends up looking as ugly as the HUmar's knees. >_>;

I also hate her costumes. All of them. Some look better than others, sure, but at the end of the day? They're all god-awful. Hell, there are several FONEWM costumes I like. I can even tolerate a couple of the HUnewearl costumes, and I hate them! FOnl? Ugh. No.

I loathe cutesy. I despise cutesy with a burning passion. There is no way to make a FOnewearl that is both non-cutesy and non-ugly. Sure, you can make it non-cutesy, but then it's ugly, as stated before.

FOnl has been, is, and shall continue to be the ugliest class, and the only one of which I have NEVER seen an example I actually like.

The closest you can get to a decent FOnewearl:

Face #4, any skin tone.
The hair with the bandana and the braids.
First row red or second row blue costume.
Middle height, normal-sized breasts, or flatchested if you can manage it.

(See: Ep1 Elly, or the FOnewearl I had on GC before I killed her for being ugly/my second BB c-mode FOnl)

This is the ONLY FOnewearl combination possible that's not completely crap. And I still don't particularily care for it. Even HUcast, whom I also hate the looks of, is better in that there's a couple of decent ones possible. And even if there's only one RAcast design I like, I like it so much that I use it. XP

Hrith
Mar 27, 2005, 04:32 PM
You phail, Ian.

As much as you are entitled to your opinion, when you try to be argumentative, you are just ridiculous.

I find FOnewearl one of the best-looking class, and definitely the best looking FO.

The only class I really find ugly is HUmar, all others can be ok, even RAmar.


On 2005-03-26 18:05, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:
Taste is subjective.

PhotonDrop
Mar 27, 2005, 04:41 PM
this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly.png

PJ
Mar 27, 2005, 04:45 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v718/PJ_PSO/Episode_1_2/PJ_SC/PJIan.png

I think this is a great example of this kind of topic http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Ian hates my FOmar. I hate his FOmar (I mean, in terms of looks).

And Kef quoted what I had already said twice in this thread http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

So yeah, arguing over looks is stupid >_>

Ochre
Mar 27, 2005, 04:51 PM
On 2005-03-27 13:41, PhotonDrop wrote:
this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly.png



Oh my God, that's just hilarious. Hahaha, I just started laughing so hard when I saw that one...thank the fates that I hadn't been drinking at the time or my keyboard would have shorted out due to the inevitable spittage. XD

Ugh, what were the ST designers SMOKING when they made some of these color schemes? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif



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TheOneHero
Mar 27, 2005, 05:11 PM
On 2005-03-27 00:02, RicoRoyal wrote:
Pictures courtesy of Kef, TheOneHero and Vielka.




Well since I as mentioned, I might as well post my opinions. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



On 2005-03-26 20:14, Eihwaz wrote:

Also, the ugliest character is probably one of those RAcasts with one of those HIDEOUS random color schemes that's like, purple, green, and orange. x_x



http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

Tycho's Racast looks like a messed up lego man. >_>; So, I go with Racast. (Though they can look good if done right. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif )

Skorpius
Mar 27, 2005, 06:07 PM
On 2005-03-27 14:11, TheOneHero wrote:
(Though they can look good if done right. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Snapshots/Characters/Matriel/newDBs.png

http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

Tycho
Mar 27, 2005, 06:28 PM
On 2005-03-27 13:14, Ian-KunX wrote:

FOnewearls are all fucking ugly. She ends up looking as ugly as the HUmar's knees. >_>;


So.. she looks almost as bad as HUmar? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif
Then HUmars still look worse.



I loathe cutesy. I despise cutesy with a burning passion.


Why? And why don't you respect the opinions of other people at all, instead of saying FOnewearl 'is' something? You don't think about them like that because there's something seriously wrong with them. It's because you think like that.



There is no way to make a FOnewearl that is both non-cutesy and non-ugly.


Guess what... You're allowed to make your characters look cute, so they don't have to look ugly. ;o



Ep1 Elly is the ONLY FOnewearl combination possible that's not completely crap.


Obsessed with Elly? ~_~;



Earlier, Ian wrote:
and the size of a five-year old child with enormous breasts


Ehh.. I have yet to see like a FOnewearl that looks like a five-year old child and has enormous breasts (because none of the FOnewearls has enormous breasts). Where did you get this, are you making it up? -_-



On 2005-03-27 14:11, TheOneHero wrote:

Tycho's Racast looks like a messed up lego man. >_>; So, I go with Racast. (Though they can look good if done right. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif )


Don't mention my RAcast in this topic! >_____<



On 2005-03-27 13:32, Kef wrote:
You phail, Ian.


Thank you. ~_~

Skorpius
Mar 27, 2005, 06:37 PM
On 2005-03-27 15:28, Tycho wrote:
Why? And why don't you respect the opinions of other people at all, instead of saying FOnewearl 'is' something?



On 2005-03-26 18:53, Kef wrote:
Nothing is uglier than a HUmar, N-O-T-H-I-N-G.


Said it to Ian, but not Kef?

Nai_Calus
Mar 27, 2005, 06:59 PM
On 2005-03-27 15:28, Tycho wrote:


On 2005-03-27 13:14, Ian-KunX wrote:

FOnewearls are all fucking ugly. She ends up looking as ugly as the HUmar's knees. >_>;


So.. she looks almost as bad as HUmar? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif
Then HUmars still look worse.



Ep1 Elly is the ONLY FOnewearl combination possible that's not completely crap.


Obsessed with Elly? ~_~;



On 2005-03-27 13:32, Kef wrote:
You phail, Ian.


Thank you. ~_~



*amused* Honestly, the way you twist my words and read in meanings that aren't there to suit yourself is hilariously entertaining. Unfortunately, it also makes you look rather foolish and as if you're grasping at straws. Where shall I begin?

When did I ever say HUmar was ugly, or that FOnewearl was 'close' to his ugliness? FOnewearls made tall suffer from bad proportions, simple. Just as how when you make a HUmar max height his knees are stretched to the point of looking rather bad. FOnewm suffers from being entirely too thin if you do his proportions a certain way at max height, a RAmar with his height decreased doesn't decrease in width. FOmar is actually one of the only male characters that doesn't aquire issues when his height is decreased. As much as I dislike short characters, even a min height FOmar looks proportional... Unlike, say, a tall FOnewearl, or HUnewearl, or a short RAcast.

This stems possibly from the fact that FOmar is a 'new' character to Ep1&2 - RAmarl has a bit of trouble going to max height, but not much(Her waist gets too small, and that's it), and HUcaseal scales with no trouble at all. DC chars, like FOnewearl and HUmar, do not scale quite as well, though RAcaseal being so similar to the HUcaseal scales well, except her skirts tend to end up in odd places.

And when did I say Ep1 Elly was the only possible attractive FOnewearl? I used her as an example of the combination that works. Shall I point out that I mentioned my own FOnewearls as well? Wiwi was black, and used the second row blue costume. How does this constitute an obession with Elly? For that matter, even if I had one, what bearing at all does it have on the thread? None whatsoever. Indeed, maybe you should grasp it as the one straw related to FOnewearls I can stand the looks of, since you seem so keen on defending them? Please, my child, refrain from twisting my words and mis-quoting me. It makes you look desperate, and also petty.

I also find it amusing that I 'phail' and my opinions are attacked, when I'm the only person who bothers giving reasons at all as to why they think a particular class is ugly. Why are HUmars ugly? Please, inform me. Instead of wildly going off and attacking everything I say because you have no valid counter-arguments, please give me your own reasons to support the ugliness of HUmar, or indeed, to defend the appearance of the FOnewearl. I've told you why, now you tell me why. Trashing my opinions, which I have explained, while refusing to give counter-opinions or defend your own point is ludicrous.

Frankly, you and Kef are the ones who 'phail'.

Edit: Forgot to edit out some of your non-meaningful babble. And yes, I have indeed seen FOnewearls that look to be 5-year-olds with enormous breasts.

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TheOneHero
Mar 27, 2005, 07:06 PM
On 2005-03-27 15:59, Ian-KunX wrote:
Edit: Forgot to edit out some of your non-meaningful babble. And yes, I have indeed seen FOnewearls that look to be 5-year-olds with enormous breasts.



I do that ALL the time.

It's just so damn seksi. >______>;;;;

biggabertha
Mar 27, 2005, 08:01 PM
Uh... Sorry... I shouldn't have really posted this quwstion, I got proved wrong about the ugliness (and the large bottom/costume) and I guess I need to rethink what things may outcome from my comments. Sorry, I only wanted to tell people why I never picked the offline god character. My bad...

Meaky
Mar 27, 2005, 08:44 PM
I just want to see how they screw up character creation for PSU. >.>

PJ
Mar 27, 2005, 10:31 PM
On 2005-03-27 17:44, Meaky wrote:
I just want to see how they screw up character creation for PSU. >.>



I know we are allowed pessimistic comments, but stupid pessimistic comments that don't relate to the topic just please leave out. Not needed at all.

But, just to be slightly on-topic, I have not seen a FOnewearl with OMCBBQ b00bies! ...I mean big ones.

I know small HUnewearls with big boobs (Very disgusting indeed) but never FOnewearl.

Evil_Althena8
Mar 28, 2005, 03:16 AM
ok, here's my opinion.

With regards to FOnewearl, indeed I don't care for it's looks. I too hate cute things, just as Ian does. HOWEVER there is ONE costume, ONE hairstyle, ONE face and ONE exact proportion that makes FOnewearl good looking for me. A FOnewearl at max height with even body proportion, the first black costume and the first hair style(bouncy balls), with the purple eye paint. That's Evil Althena for you. She looks womanly and EVIL, not cutesy and girly. <3

HUmars suffer because of their lack of costume variation...it's just different colors, much like an android >_> Have OK hairstyle choice

I love FOmars, esp. tall with long hair. They just look like badasses...like Ghaleon. Also, they are amusing to make really short and "cute". Alot of their hairstyles suffer, however. Also, the one old guy face with facial hair matches NO hairstyle...it looks rediculous.

HUneys...what can I say? These IMO are the best looking class for me. Yeah...they look slutty...so? They have THE best hairstyle choices. I can never actually make up my mind with HUnewearl because there are so many combinations that I like. I don't like HUGE boobs...just perfect ones. uber seksi

FOmarl...blech. Yeah, they're regal, they're dignified...but god-awful ugly. Perhaps its the HORRIBLE hairstyle and face choices? There are 2 hairstyles I'd choose for a FOmarl. First of all, they all wear ugly fucking hats that look rediculous...or have stupid ribbons. I like my FOmarls to have LONG flowing hair...and there's 1 style for that. I do like their robe color choices, however.

FOnewm. I can't really say much. It was my very first char. Don't really like how their costumes make their butt look big. They just look goofy and comedic...i'd never make one as a serious char.

RAmars are particular distasteful to me...again they suffer from the same problem HUmars have...but worse

well I could say more but I just wanted to cover the major ones

AYY-BEE-CEE
Mar 28, 2005, 04:19 AM
On 2005-03-27 13:41, PhotonDrop wrote:
this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly.png



lol (literally this time)

Tycho
Mar 28, 2005, 09:52 AM
On 2005-03-27 16:06, TheOneHero wrote:
I do that ALL the time.
It's just so damn seksi. >______>;;;;


<____<;
Like. No. :/



On 2005-03-28 00:16, Evil_Althena8 wrote:
FOmarl...blech. Yeah, they're regal, they're dignified...but god-awful ugly.


Skorp might hear that. :x



Skorp wrote:
Said it to Ian, but not Kef?


I'm biased, but.. at least I try to give reasons for what I think. :/
But I admitted HUmars can look okay. Axel's HUmar doesn't look bad. I took offense in what Ian said, not in Kef's words. You could have figured that out. :



On 2005-03-27 15:59, Ian-KunX wrote:
*amused* Honestly, the way you twist my words and read in meanings that aren't there to suit yourself is hilariously entertaining. Unfortunately, it also makes you look rather foolish and as if you're grasping at straws. Where shall I begin?


I did not twist your words, I summarized the main points. You keep summarizing how some other classes can look okay, but that's not the point. >_>;
Even if those other classes could look okay, proving that would not justify concluding "FOnewearls are the ugliest fucking things in existance".



When did I ever say HUmar was ugly, or that FOnewearl was 'close' to his ugliness? FOnewearls made tall suffer from bad proportions, simple. Just as how when you make a HUmar max height his knees are stretched to the point of looking rather bad. FOnewm suffers from being entirely too thin if you do his proportions a certain way at max height, a RAmar with his height decreased doesn't decrease in width. FOmar is actually one of the only male characters that doesn't aquire issues when his height is decreased. As much as I dislike short characters, even a min height FOmar looks proportional... Unlike, say, a tall FOnewearl, or HUnewearl, or a short RAcast.


Here: "as ugly as the HUmar's knees"



And when did I say Ep1 Elly was the only possible attractive FOnewearl? I used her as an example of the combination that works. Shall I point out that I mentioned my own FOnewearls as well? Wiwi was black, and used the second row blue costume. How does this constitute an obession with Elly? For that matter, even if I had one, what bearing at all does it have on the thread? None whatsoever. Indeed, maybe you should grasp it as the one straw related to FOnewearls I can stand the looks of, since you seem so keen on defending them? Please, my child, refrain from twisting my words and mis-quoting me. It makes you look desperate, and also petty.


Nah, I didn't mean Elly would be the only FOnewearl you think would look decent. But I'm guessing you only like those designs because of Elly. ~_~
But if you think those designs are okay, why not judge the class's looks by those, instead of by the worst looking ones? If I tried, I could make a HUmar look horrible.



I also find it amusing that I 'phail' and my opinions are attacked, when I'm the only person who bothers giving reasons at all as to why they think a particular class is ugly. Why are HUmars ugly? Please, inform me. Instead of wildly going off and attacking everything I say because you have no valid counter-arguments, please give me your own reasons to support the ugliness of HUmar, or indeed, to defend the appearance of the FOnewearl. I've told you why, now you tell me why. Trashing my opinions, which I have explained, while refusing to give counter-opinions or defend your own point is ludicrous.

Frankly, you and Kef are the ones who 'phail'.


I never said you 'phailed', so don't judge me on that.
All your 'reasons', were explanations about your opinions about how several classes could look. In the end you still solely use opinions, like everyone else.

You're aware some FOnewearls can look okay, yet because you don't like the majority of them, you conclude the class FOnewearl looks bad.
You know a lot of HUmars and FOmars online look bad, still, you like some, so you conclude they look good.
My reasons for disliking HUmars (other than they are used by stereotypical noobs) are the same as why you dislike FOnewearls. Most of the HUmars you see online look really bad.

You said FOnewearls don't necessarily have to look ugly, but when they do not, they look cute. Yet you concluded "FOnewearls are the ugliest fucking things in existance", instead of something like "FOnewearls can look either like the ugliest fucking things in existance, or, cute".

So by your way of thinking, FOnewearls are ugly because you don't like the looks of all FOnewearls. Then, let me answer your question using that.

"Why are HUmars ugly?"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/Tycho01/OMGFSODLOL.png



Edit: Forgot to edit out some of your non-meaningful babble. And yes, I have indeed seen FOnewearls that look to be 5-year-olds with enormous breasts.


Even if there are, this should not influence your opinion about FOnewearls that do not look like this. Besides, do you think I would like those looks? If I did, my FOnewearl would look way different. Or would have been a HUnewearl. x_x;




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Three
Mar 28, 2005, 10:06 AM
On 2005-03-28 01:19, AYY-BEE-CEE wrote:


On 2005-03-27 13:41, PhotonDrop wrote:
this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly.png



lol (literally this time)



Ohgeez, those colors are horrible. >_<

Hrith
Mar 28, 2005, 10:14 AM
I also find it amusing that I 'phail' and my opinions are attacked, when I'm the only person who bothers giving reasons at all as to why they think a particular class is ugly.
Most stupid thing I read from you in a long while.

Tastes cannot be explained, the more you try to explain why "FOnewearls are ugly", the more you sound ridiculous and stupid.

You don't like FOnewearl, I find her one of the most beautiful class in PSO, end of story. All the "reasons" you mention are just your opinion; they apply only to you, and as such are not even reasons.

PJ
Mar 28, 2005, 10:26 AM
On 2005-03-28 06:52, Tycho wrote:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/Tycho01/OMGFSODLOL.png



I want to note, that HUmar is exactly like mine, only not fat, slightly darker green hair, and the other black costume.

But... it's still funny that the stereotypical ugly HUmar is so close to mine XD Yet, I love my first HUmar ^-^;;;

Tycho
Mar 28, 2005, 11:21 AM
On 2005-03-28 07:26, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:


xP
I'm sorry. ~_~;

TheOneHero
Mar 28, 2005, 11:50 AM
On 2005-03-28 06:52, Tycho wrote:


On 2005-03-27 16:06, TheOneHero wrote:
I do that ALL the time.
It's just so damn seksi. >______>;;;;


<____<;
Like. No. :/



j00 phail it! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Besides, I would never do it with Hunewy since fonewy's have bigger breats. >_>

ForceOfBrokenGlass
Mar 28, 2005, 02:56 PM
On 2005-03-27 19:31, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:

But, just to be slightly on-topic, I have not seen a FOnewearl with OMCBBQ b00bies! ...I mean big ones.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Oddplume/PSO/9370e49c.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Oddplume/PSO/991beb5e.png
*Cough*

Tycho
Mar 28, 2005, 03:35 PM
On 2005-03-28 11:56, ForceOfBrokenGlass wrote:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Oddplume/PSO/9370e49c.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Oddplume/PSO/991beb5e.png
*Cough*


o.o

ewww. >_____>;
Her proportions are horrible.




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Nai_Calus
Mar 28, 2005, 03:39 PM
I rest my case. o.x http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_barf.gif

Skorpius
Mar 28, 2005, 03:47 PM
I'm biased, but.. at least I try to give reasons for what I think. :/
But I admitted HUmars can look okay. Axel's HUmar doesn't look bad. I took offense in what Ian said, not in Kef's words. You could have figured that out.
You shouldn't have said anything, because Kef was doing the same exact thing. ;l

Scejntjynahl
Mar 28, 2005, 03:55 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Furankunichan/SenPictorial/Serpiente_edited.jpg

PhotonDrop
Mar 28, 2005, 04:57 PM
>.>;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly1.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly3.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly4.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly5.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly6.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly7.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly8.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly9.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/ooglyten.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly11.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Robo47/PhotonDrop/oogly%20chars/oogly12.png

Nai_Calus
Mar 28, 2005, 05:07 PM
Nice work, PD, though oddly most of those don't make me cringe that much. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I did the FOs:

http://www.iankunx.net/omgwtfugly.jpg

An ugly FOmar. His proportions are so fucked his collar clips through his chin. I want to cry looking at him.

http://www.iankunx.net/semiugly.jpg

Most people would say this is ugly, but I think it's kind of cool.

http://www.iankunx.net/nonugly.jpg

Rather different from the style of FOmar I usually like, but still attractive.

http://www.iankunx.net/uglyfomarl2.jpg

My brain. It hurts.

http://www.iankunx.net/pretty.jpg

A pretty FOmarl.

http://www.iankunx.net/uglyfonewm.jpg

Eww.

http://www.iankunx.net/nonuglyfonewm.jpg

Yay.

http://www.iankunx.net/uglyfonl.jpg

Gah! This thing popped up while I was making random FOnls. Ewwwwwww.

http://www.iankunx.net/typicalfonl.jpg

What I usually see. X_x;

http://www.iankunx.net/tolerablefonl.jpg

I can tolerate this one, though I probably wouldn't use her. Her shoes are scary, though, and she's too skinny. X_x;

Hrith
Mar 28, 2005, 05:08 PM
I like the HUcast and the HUmar hairdo XD

Good job, PD, that was funny.

The FOmar is horrible, Ian will have a heart attack.

Edit for Ian's post: http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif the random function is a scary tool.

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PhotonDrop
Mar 28, 2005, 05:11 PM
though I could swear the FOne I made looks very familiar..

adamgnome104
Mar 28, 2005, 05:28 PM
I remember when HUmars were all overused Sephiroth or Goku look alikes, I think they're all ugly. Same with FOmars.

But now I think really fat RAmars are ugly. XP I used to have a friend who had a fat RAmar...named fat. >_>

Tycho
Mar 28, 2005, 05:31 PM
Ian, I pretty much share your opinion on all of those, except two.

http://www.iankunx.net/nonugly.jpg

I can't really decide on this one, so I don't know.

http://www.iankunx.net/tolerablefonl.jpg

You're right, this one looks okay (nice to me). But I have no problem with the shoes (used to them?), and to me she doesn't look too skinny (I'm skinny myself, so >_>).

Other than that.. yes, you're completely right.

Skorpius
Mar 28, 2005, 06:06 PM
That FOnl is pretty cute.

Puppet_Papaya
Mar 28, 2005, 07:09 PM
My brain. It hurts.
Awww, I thought that one was kinda cute, in a weird kinda way.
The way I see it, not all characters can look beautiful. I think the "ugly" ones are just way more interesting!

BTW i think my FOnewearl looks just fine!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/PuppetPopaya/LiLiCA8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/PuppetPopaya/LiLiCA9.jpg

chibiLegolas
Mar 29, 2005, 02:40 PM
Sorry, but the FOnewmans look quirky, not ugly. It's the HUmar that are truly ugly. I mean, a large behind is one thing, but what's with the uneven arm sizes? It sure doesn't look like a gauntlet.

But then again, nothing is more freightening than a large, fat Racaseal.
^_^'

Nai_Calus
Mar 29, 2005, 03:07 PM
You know, people bitch about the HUmar's costume design, and it's the only human costume in the game that makes any sense as far as armor goes. Characters in PSO block with the left arm. Gee, guess what HUmar has on his left arm? Yes, the armor thing on his forearm, and also on his shoulder. He also has more armor on both his shoulders. And since characters in PSO use(mainly) their right arm when attacking, guess which arm doesn't have a bunch of crap on it that would slow down attack times?

I dunno, it makes perfect sense to me. Sure, it's not 'pretty' or whatever, but jesus of hell, people, it's BATTLE GEAR. It's supposed to be utilitarian, not 'sexy' or 'cute' or whatever the hell you're all on about. Stop fapping to your newearls long enough to think about practical issues. -_-;

Notos
Mar 29, 2005, 03:24 PM
On 2005-03-29 12:07, Ian-KunX wrote:
I dunno, it makes perfect sense to me. Sure, it's not 'pretty' or whatever, but jesus of hell, people, it's BATTLE GEAR. It's supposed to be utilitarian, not 'sexy' or 'cute' or whatever the hell you're all on about. Stop fapping to your newearls long enough to think about practical issues. -_-;



Um, yeah! Utilitarian rules! Now gimmie my chainmail bikini.

After playing KoF and asking why is there fire and ice coming out of those guys and their attack motions make no sense, we came to a conclusion that making sense has no place in a video game and it's all about how cool the characters looks.



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Nai_Calus
Mar 29, 2005, 04:04 PM
Well, there's something to be said for that viewpoint. Too bad I think that some of the variants on the HUmar's costume look pretty dang cool. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I like my HUmar. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif