PSOBB, and the top five reasons why I am not going to it...

[Curalkin]

5. No offline play... What is up with that? Nothing I hate more then paying for a game that I can only play online.

4. No offline item transfer... Anybody who played on the dreamcast will tell you how much it sucked to only be able to transfer items online. Nothing better then to drop your items in a room only to have it lost due to lag or fsod.

3. No voice chat... Playing on the xbox spoiled me with voice chat. No worse then to stop in the middle of a battle to type some nonsense. Hello Sonicteam we are in the broadband age! Playing v1, v2, and on the gc makes me appreciate not typing.

2. This is a video game, and not a pc game... PSO was meant to be played on a console with a real controller and a gaming kick ass setup. I do have a ps2 controller hooked up to my pc, but it doesn't beat a 57 inch sony wide screen, 5.1 surround sound, and 480p resolution while sitting on your nice couch with a couple beers.

1. I am tired of being Sonic team's bitch! The credit for this issue goes to my good friend, Shigecki. Xbox players, you need to look on the back of your pso case. It says, "The adventure never ends with downloadable quests." Well, where are they? Why can't they add ep4 by release an update disk for the gc and xbox? Instead we get to play the same game on yet another platform. Sure, there's ep4, but you know what, you still playing the same old class doing the same old attacks. To me it is just not worth it. My FOnewm is 194, and I have every s-rank. Like I want to do that again!

Good luck to anybody going to PSOBB, but my pso journey ends with the xbox.

[Getintothegame]

Well, if you have a team, you can transfer items that way, to a member in your team to hold.

But that's about it. But think of it this way- Xbox PSO was hacked the night after it's release.

PSOBB is able to patch itself to protect it.

[GyroidFanatic]

5. Server-side saving makes it pointless, as you couldn't use the same characters online. Besides, you need the internet to download it, so everyone can obviously play online unlike the console games.

4. Okay, I have to agree with you here.

3. From what I've heard, XBox Voice Chat was filled with immature kids. And I thought symbol chat spamming was bad. Not to mention if you don't have a headset (which I'm sure the majority doesn't), then that could create a problem.

2. I have nothing to day here. If you wanted to, get a TV-out adaptor or move your comfy couch to your computer. Again, more people don't have that kind of set up than do. (And given PSO's apparent age range, I assume more people don't drink beer than do.)

1. Because it would be a bad financial move. Gamecube's online base is quickly diminishing, and XBox PSO wasn't that good to begin with, so I've heard. About the online quests: Gamecube's version had a bug with downloading quests that wasn't noticed until it was too late, and they didn't want to give something to Xbox that wouldn't be on Gamecube. Keep in mind that they're still working on PSU.

[Nai_Calus]

Which just gives the hackers more incentive to do something, if you ask me.

And depending on your hours, you might be waiting a looong time for teammates.

[Outrider]

On 2005-05-23 19:15, GyroidFanatic wrote:
5. Server-side saving makes it pointless, as you couldn't use the same characters online. Besides, you need the internet to download it, so everyone can obviously play online unlike the console games.


Some of us played PSO even when we didn't immediately have access to the internet. You can't always be near a stable internet connection. Particularly with a PC game, if you're playing the game on a laptop, you might want to play it when you're away from home and the internet. It was nice to be able to play a game we've bought without having to connect to the internet.

[Ochre]

You forgot about reason number 6: The AOL cup.

I almost wanted to vomit with rage when I saw that was for real. Ugh, why, Sega, WHY? And the dimenians....ugh.

[AzureBlaze]

I hate to bring down on any PSO....but I have to agree here.

It's fine that the PC people can play PSO. The more who can experience this great game who have not before, the better.

My gripe is, IT IS PURE REHASH. They didn't give it anything actually new that they could have. Rehash is great if you've never done the game before, or have been away for years and years, but it is horrible for veterans or loyalists. New outfits? New heads? Hair? Colors? Options? Moves? NO. There is no incentive for me to play this longer then the 1 month it would take to retrieve the plot/look at a new level.

Sprinkling weapons and a few new enemies does not justify a whole new trip to lvl 200. How many (TOTAL) new enemies are there? New Weps?

The longevity of it is also under question. If PSU is "Everything PSO did, but better" like they're saying in every interview, who will want to hang out on a voice-chatless rehash area? Is it worth it to build your empire here, only to abandon it (or be forced to, as numbers drop)?

The extra plot/quests will be nice for BB, but they could EASILY be an add-on disk for the consoles. This doesn't look like it does anything a console can't handle. Which brings me to the biggest hang up...
Why is GC fanbase diminishing? They *Abandoned* everything we already paid for to focus on BB. They swore up and down that GCE2 and CARD would have a zillion quests and keep you entertained. So far, it's been...what 8mo since Ep3 had a quest AT ALL? There were TWO non-sponsored quests total. One or two downloadables/new content does not fulfill any promise. Again E2 is saddled with the same quests DCPSO had, just sprinkled around. If you can't DL it, then clap it up online.

But they must ask: Is it better to offend/dissapoint/turn off your loyalists by making false-promises and abandoning games? Or is it better to peddle rehash to possible new masses who have never seen it?

[Solstis]

On 2005-05-23 19:37, Outrider wrote:

On 2005-05-23 19:15, GyroidFanatic wrote:
5. Server-side saving makes it pointless, as you couldn't use the same characters online. Besides, you need the internet to download it, so everyone can obviously play online unlike the console games.


Some of us played PSO even when we didn't immediately have access to the internet. You can't always be near a stable internet connection. Particularly with a PC game, if you're playing the game on a laptop, you might want to play it when you're away from home and the internet. It was nice to be able to play a game we've bought without having to connect to the internet.



Sega needs to take a long, good look at Diablo 2. Offline characters could be used, and could go online on the "Open" servers. Cheaters, hackers, whatever, but offline play was available.

Then there was the traditional server-side characters.

Or, ST, would that cost too much for ya?

[TheOneHero]

Or that multi-hitting Ep4 Saber. Supposedly the 'SJS' of Ep4. But we're talking about BB. ;p

I thought BB was going to be fun, better, and more challanging than GC. Turned out the more I played it, the more I hated it. Better went away within the first hour, followed by fun, and then more challanging.

BB users are spoiled, really. You can put techs/items/attacks/ on Keys 1-0 and the Left, Down, Right arrow keys twice over. That just made an already easy game, much easier. Now you don't have to think before going on a mission:

GC: Ok, I'm FO, in PW2. I Want Resta, Jellen, Deband, Anti, normal attack, and fluids set up. Oh wait, I have to worry about having full PB, let's see. What's more imporant out of the 6?

BB: Yep, I'll just put fluids/support/heal techs/Reverser/Gifoie on 1-0, and have normal/hard attack and my other uber techs on the arrow keys. I sure hope I'm set.

Really, give me a break.

Sure BB has it's upsides, but I, myself just wasn't at all pleased with how it was done.

[Skorpius]

5. No offline play... What is up with that? Nothing I hate more then paying for a game that I can only play online.
There is a Single Player mode with wimpy stats just like 'Offline Mode'. When the servers are shut off for some reason, you can just switch on your GC/Xbox/Dc whatever. Nothing is STOPPING you from playing the other versions, so this point is invalid.

4. No offline item transfer... Anybody who played on the dreamcast will tell you how much it sucked to only be able to transfer items online. Nothing better then to drop your items in a room only to have it lost due to lag or fsod.
No FSOD on Blue Burst. You can give your items to a friend to hold while you move your items, it isn't THAT difficult. What if you don't have a second controller for your console? I've known many GC players who only had ONE controller. Again, this point is invalid.

3. No voice chat... Playing on the xbox spoiled me with voice chat. No worse then to stop in the middle of a battle to type some nonsense. Hello Sonicteam we are in the broadband age! Playing v1, v2, and on the gc makes me appreciate not typing.
The voice chat is laggy and annoying. Granted it's slightly usefull in C-mode, but where else is it overly better? No where. You can stop to type something, since PSO isn't that difficult to stop after a spawn and say some witty remark. One other invalid point.


2. This is a video game, and not a pc game... PSO was meant to be played on a console with a real controller and a gaming kick ass setup. I do have a ps2 controller hooked up to my pc, but it doesn't beat a 57 inch sony wide screen, 5.1 surround sound, and 480p resolution while sitting on your nice couch with a couple beers.
Well, you're half right. It IS nice to play PSO with a controller, sit in a confortable recliner and much on your snack shit. But who the fuck cares? If you want to play them, go right ahead! NOTHING is stopping you. I play BB for a while during the day, and GC for a while during the night.

1. I am tired of being Sonic team's bitch! The credit for this issue goes to my good friend, Shigecki. Xbox players, you need to look on the back of your pso case. It says, "The adventure never ends with downloadable quests." Well, where are they? Why can't they add ep4 by release an update disk for the gc and xbox? Instead we get to play the same game on yet another platform. Sure, there's ep4, but you know what, you still playing the same old class doing the same old attacks. To me it is just not worth it. My FOnewm is 194, and I have every s-rank. Like I want to do that again!
I was aware that Xbox had a couple of downloadable quests available. Aren't there at least 3? But, this is called MARKETING, and you fell for it.
They could, in theory, download Ep4 to your Xbox harddrive, but since Xbox is overly hacked to shit, Sonic Team has officially stopped caring about PSOX. They cannot release an update disk for GC, since that would require purchacing Episode 1&2 with EP4 data because of how game disks work. If it isn't already on the disk, it cannot exist in-game.
You'd be surprised how fun it could be to start fresh and new. Congratulations on reaching a high level and obtaining many S-rank weapons, but all of that is irelevant since you can STILL PLAY THEM.

Good luck to anybody going to PSOBB, but my pso journey ends with the xbox.
All right. See you later.

[Maridia]

Amen, brotha. Amen.

[Outrider]

Guys, I think everyone has to understand that every single version of PSO has had its flaws. As for which one is better, it all comes down to personal preference. All of the complaints are valid, but it doesn't make one version worse than the other.

[ForceOfBrokenGlass]

On 2005-05-23 21:17, Skorpius wrote:
5. No offline play... What is up with that? Nothing I hate more then paying for a game that I can only play online.
There is a Single Player mode with wimpy stats just like 'Offline Mode'. When the servers are shut off for some reason, you can just switch on your GC/Xbox/Dc whatever. Nothing is STOPPING you from playing the other versions, so this point is invalid.


His point is not that something is stopping him from playing the other versions offline. His point is If he wants to play BB offline he cant. Server goes under maintainance, or the game gets canceled, no Blue Burst for that period of time.

With the console versions, through maintainance or rain you could still play to your heart's content offline.


4. No offline item transfer... Anybody who played on the dreamcast will tell you how much it sucked to only be able to transfer items online. Nothing better then to drop your items in a room only to have it lost due to lag or fsod.
No FSOD on Blue Burst. You can give your items to a friend to hold while you move your items, it isn't THAT difficult. What if you don't have a second controller for your console? I've known many GC players who only had ONE controller. Again, this point is invalid.

I've known many GC players who had siblings play PSO with them for offline games. Even still, it's easier to trust yourself with 2 controlers than it is to trust some person in your team with your items.


2. This is a video game, and not a pc game... PSO was meant to be played on a console with a real controller and a gaming kick ass setup. I do have a ps2 controller hooked up to my pc, but it doesn't beat a 57 inch sony wide screen, 5.1 surround sound, and 480p resolution while sitting on your nice couch with a couple beers.
Well, you're half right. It IS nice to play PSO with a controller, sit in a confortable recliner and much on your snack shit. But who the fuck cares? If you want to play them, go right ahead! NOTHING is stopping you. I play BB for a while during the day, and GC for a while during the night.


Again, this has little to do with his freedom to play the other versions offline. It's about his lack of ability to play the shiny "new" PSO offline.


Just to point out a few things.



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[Mixfortune]

Eh, just some minor points I'm going to toss in here.


5. No offline play... What is up with that? Nothing I hate more then paying for a game that I can only play online.


I do agree that it's rather annoying, but it's in the interest of the... hmm... more secure server side saving. As Solstis pointed out, something along the lines of how D2 handled things in terms of character allowances would be useful. You could have an offline /online character that was on a seperate "realm" than the online ones... but at that point it'd be like having BB + other version. Could have completely offline chars... but that sort of "takes away" from it to.

I agree it's annoying, but sometimes in the best interest of what you want to protect. The max character limit being 4 per account, though, is pretty bad.


4. No offline item transfer... Anybody who played on the dreamcast will tell you how much it sucked to only be able to transfer items online. Nothing better then to drop your items in a room only to have it lost due to lag or fsod.


While there isn't the offline transfer capability offered in GC/Xbox, don't compare it to the DC. DC didn't have the trade window, or team mail. If you lose items to dropping them and being lagged or disconnected, it's really your own fault... almost as bad as trusting someone you don't know well to hold your items. :/

Also, there's no real... FSOD... if you run into problems and get dropped somehow, your on-character items are kept, in most situations anyways... still, better than previous versions in this regard.


3. No voice chat... Playing on the xbox spoiled me with voice chat. No worse then to stop in the middle of a battle to type some nonsense. Hello Sonicteam we are in the broadband age! Playing v1, v2, and on the gc makes me appreciate not typing.


Eh...GC never had it, so it's not much of a problem for myself, but I can see how it might be an issue. However, there is "voice chat", as in outside voice chatting programs such as teamspeak or ventrilo (I'm sure I probably spelled both of them wrong, oh well). While it doesn't allow you to just chat with whoever whenever, it's still accessable to those you play with more, or the members of your team.

If you do it right, you could have voice chat that's even better off than the Xbox one (as in, no random idiots).


2. This is a video game, and not a pc game... PSO was meant to be played on a console with a real controller and a gaming kick ass setup. I do have a ps2 controller hooked up to my pc, but it doesn't beat a 57 inch sony wide screen, 5.1 surround sound, and 480p resolution while sitting on your nice couch with a couple beers.


a. Video games can be on the PC.
b. Well, you have the first part, a controller. The rest is doable as well, if you're active about it and willing to set it up to switch over to such a TV. If your box is small enough, should be relatively easy to carry about and hook up >_> more money if you don't have the parts, but eh.


1. I am tired of being Sonic team's bitch! The credit for this issue goes to my good friend, Shigecki. Xbox players, you need to look on the back of your pso case. It says, "The adventure never ends with downloadable quests." Well, where are they? Why can't they add ep4 by release an update disk for the gc and xbox? Instead we get to play the same game on yet another platform.


Technically... when you play a quest online it says it's "downloading" the quest... so in some ways there's lots of downloadable quests.

As for why BB isn't on PC, GC, and XBox, well... there may be a different reason for that. It just came to mind, actually, that BB may be more of a preparation for PSU. Rather than jump headfirst into the PC world of online gaming and security with PSU, they use PSO and make BB to get a good feel for how to run patches and PC game security. And to test it, they need more people, to get more people, they make it only on PC. Or not...


Sure, there's ep4, but you know what, you still playing the same old class doing the same old attacks. To me it is just not worth it. My FOnewm is 194, and I have every s-rank. Like I want to do that again!


PSO has been like this for a long while now. To expect much else isn't very good.
As Xbox is more stable than GC at the moment, I can't really use the "your 194 FOnewm with every S-rank could step online one day and get corrupted, thus losing everything anyways" argument as readily http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


Good luck to anybody going to PSOBB, but my pso journey ends with the xbox.


I do appreciate that you did make this a non hostile post, seriously. You addressed your concerns without attempting to put down those who do wish to play BB. As it is a personal choice, and all versions have their issues, I don't blame you for your reasons.

Just uh... remember why some things are the way they are. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

and uhhh... windowed mode + less fear of connection issues while idle for the win http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif


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[Neith]

5. No offline play... What is up with that? Nothing I hate more then paying for a game that I can only play online.

There's One Person mode, which is all the offline quests. Since you downloaded the client in the first place, you must have an online connection.

4. No offline item transfer... Anybody who played on the dreamcast will tell you how much it sucked to only be able to transfer items online. Nothing better then to drop your items in a room only to have it lost due to lag or fsod.

I agree here, I have some G-Assassin Sabers I need to trade to my HUcast/newearl, but I need to find someone to hold them, which Im not too comfortable with.

3. No voice chat... Playing on the xbox spoiled me with voice chat. No worse then to stop in the middle of a battle to type some nonsense. Hello Sonicteam we are in the broadband age! Playing v1, v2, and on the gc makes me appreciate not typing.

Can't you just use a voice client like Teamspeak? Sure, no use if you don't know who you're playing with, but a lot of kiddies will be playing this. You don't want to hear them.

2. This is a video game, and not a pc game... PSO was meant to be played on a console with a real controller and a gaming kick ass setup. I do have a ps2 controller hooked up to my pc, but it doesn't beat a 57 inch sony wide screen, 5.1 surround sound, and 480p resolution while sitting on your nice couch with a couple beers.

With a half decent computer, good sound card, and a PS2->USB converter, it's great. Sure, cheaper your way possibly, but not too many people have a 57 inch widescreen.

1. I am tired of being Sonic team's bitch! The credit for this issue goes to my good friend, Shigecki. Xbox players, you need to look on the back of your pso case. It says, "The adventure never ends with downloadable quests." Well, where are they? Why can't they add ep4 by release an update disk for the gc and xbox? Instead we get to play the same game on yet another platform. Sure, there's ep4, but you know what, you still playing the same old class doing the same old attacks. To me it is just not worth it. My FOnewm is 194, and I have every s-rank. Like I want to do that again!

Well, don't then. X-Box and GC were hacked beyond belief, destroyed the gameplay for me at least. Nice trading environment in BB makes it nicer to play IMO. I can't see the sense in ranting on about GC vs BB, or Xbox vs BB, since there's nothing to gain from it.

ToH, I posted this on our forums, but no reply yet. If you're not satisfied with BB users, calling us 'spoilt', then why did you say you were moving to BB in August?

Let me put this straight.
If you love GC PSO, play GC PSO.
If you love XBox PSO, play XBox PSO.
If you love BB, play BB.

But stop ranting on, it's getting nowhere fast. Each to their own.

[TheOneHero]

On 2005-05-24 06:21, UrikoBB3 wrote:
ToH, I posted this on our forums, but no reply yet. If you're not satisfied with BB users, calling us 'spoilt', then why did you say you were moving to BB in August?




People change their minds. ;p

[Neith]

I guess, shame you're not moving anyway, I've gotten right back into the game because of BB...

But seriously, these rants are a bit pointless. They'd have some kind of reasoning if the GC/Xbox servers were closed, but that hasn't happened yet. Play the platform you want to, meh.

[digigram]

Well, don't then. X-Box GC was/is hacked beyond belief

Xbox, while still being barely hacked, only has duped weapons, hacked weapons and hacked mags. when playing in the right ships, there is no need to worry about who you play with, because you can't get FSOD or corrupted.

Yeah I know, BB has no hacks/dupes. But from the time I had played and very quickly quit again in BB, 100% of the people that would dupe and cheat in a second if they could, and told me so, we're fucking jerks.

being a jerk bitch = worse than a duped/hacked weapon in my opinion.

[Neith]

I don't mind playing with hackers/dupers, as long as they aren't malicious or 'jerks'. It's unfortunate that a large majority of hackers I've played with were jerks.

I'm backing outta this thread here, I don't wanna see BB get any more slated >_<

[watashiwa]

On 2005-05-23 19:44, Ochre wrote:
I almost wanted to vomit with rage when I saw that was for real. Ugh, why, Sega, WHY? And the dimenians....ugh.



The Dimenians? Haha, you did realize those pictures were fake, right?

The AOL Maximum attack logo on Pioneer 2 was fake too.

[Neith]

Hate to say it, but the AOL-sponsoring Dimenians are not a myth. Go to Ruins and see, ruined that quest for me.

[watashiwa]

Daaaaaaaaamn.. LOL!!! I asked my friend and she said she didn't see them. Guess she didn't look hard enough.

Well I know for a fact the P2 AOL logos are false. I went into the cup and outside of the cup, didn't see them. =P

[Ryna]

On 2005-05-24 08:22, watashiwa wrote:
Daaaaaaaaamn.. LOL!!! I asked my friend and she said she didn't see them. Guess she didn't look hard enough.

Well I know for a fact the P2 AOL logos are false. I went into the cup and outside of the cup, didn't see them. =P


You are doing a GREAT job of being sarcastic. Keep up the good work!

You'll be able to keep this topic going for another 10 pages as people argue over this point.

[watashiwa]

On 2005-05-24 08:27, Ryna wrote:
You are doing a GREAT job of being sarcastic. Keep up the good work!

You'll be able to keep this topic going for another 10 pages as people argue over this point.



Sarcastic? I was being serious. *shrug*

You're doing a great job of trying to look like a smartass while adding absolutely nothing important to this topic yourself.

I s'pose just as unimportant my post was to be made, yours is equally as much so if not even more.

[Mixfortune]

The AOL dimenians are true.
The advertisements all over Pioneer 2 are true.

[watashiwa]

Weird, I didn't see the advertisements when they first announced the quest, I swear. I jumped right in the game right after maintenance.

I'm going in-game to check now. I always thought they were photoshopped.

Huh? I just went in-game, and I don't see any advertisements.. at least not outside the cup.. If I'm not allowed to use telepipes in the quest either, how do I check Pioneer 2 for the advertisement while doing the quest?

I checked Pioneer 2 while not in a quest. I checked Pioneer 2 while in Today's Rate. I couldn't check it while in Maximum Attack... but.. hmm..

I really see no advertisements... (http://www.custompc.com/temp/noads1.jpg)
Blah. (http://www.custompc.com/temp/noads2.jpg)
Meh. (http://www.custompc.com/temp/noads3.jpg)
Fwoom. (http://www.custompc.com/temp/noads4.jpg)

PM me if you know how to get them to show up.

Anyway, back on-topic, sorry!

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[Outrider]

On 2005-05-24 06:21, UrikoBB3 wrote:
Let me put this straight.
If you love GC PSO, play GC PSO.
If you love XBox PSO, play XBox PSO.
If you love BB, play BB.

But stop ranting on, it's getting nowhere fast. Each to their own.



Uriko, you've missed the entire point of what the past few people have posted.

Everybody knows that you can easily play a different version than BB. However, these are legitimate complaints with Blue Burst on its own. Forget for a moment that there are any other types of PSO, and these points that he is holding against it are pretty relevant.

[Mixfortune]

Also, something to keep in mind, people. Solo mode on BB is NOT offline. It's the old offline mode brought online.

The point the original poster was making about there being no offline wasn't because he was saying "I can't play Soul of a Blacksmith", for example, but because... well, he can't play offline.

BB has no offline. At all.

[Ryna]

On 2005-05-24 08:58, watashiwa wrote:
PM me if you know how to get them to show up.

Anyway, back on-topic, sorry!


I suggest you try visiting the shops right after you beam back to P2 just after finishing the AOL Cup quest....


Sarcastic? I was being serious. *shrug*

You're doing a great job of trying to look like a smartass while adding absolutely nothing important to this topic yourself.


I guess sarcasm doesn't work too well on you....

Anyways, go try my method before you go on with your "this is all a Photoshop" conspiracy.

[Mixfortune]

Also, if you want a faster way, without going through the 30 minute cup run, make a solo mode game and go to the Sunset Base quest. You can see the advertisements there as well.

[watashiwa]

On 2005-05-24 09:24, Ryna wrote:
I guess sarcasm doesn't work too well on you....

Anyways, go try my method before you go on with your "this is all a Photoshop" conspiracy.



Well, you claimed I was being sarcastic from the get-go when I wasn't. I really thought they weren't there.

You swear to God that you were insulted, as if I struck a blow right at your heart, from my statement that I thought they were photoshopped. No need to get all hostile, boy.

It's all good!

[Neith]

Uriko, you've missed the entire point of what the past few people have posted.

Everybody knows that you can easily play a different version than BB. However, these are legitimate complaints with Blue Burst on its own. Forget for a moment that there are any other types of PSO, and these points that he is holding against it are pretty relevant.



I still don't see the sense in arguing about this, the original poster clearly stated that they have played a previous version of PSO. You cannot forget there are other versions, and as a number of people have posted, a lot of the points made are not important.

The reason I said what I did is because I can see this becoming a fanboy thread, which I'm sure the original poster didn't want.

[Outrider]

On 2005-05-24 11:34, UrikoBB3 wrote:
I still don't see the sense in arguing about this, the original poster clearly stated that they have played a previous version of PSO. You cannot forget there are other versions, and as a number of people have posted, a lot of the points made are not important.

The reason I said what I did is because I can see this becoming a fanboy thread, which I'm sure the original poster didn't want.



Yeah, but most of the opposing arguments boiled down to "play a different version." It's worth noting that there are problems with the PC version of the game, and everybody can't have their problems remedied by simply playing PSO on another system.

Personally, I think the lack of an offline mode is the biggest flaw against the game, but people have gotten used to that in regards to online RPGs on the PC, so I guess it's expected most people don't care.

[Neith]

There definately are issues with Blue Burst, it's by no means perfect. Not being able to Alt+Tab in full screen annoys me. I know I could run window mode, but I can't stand that. There are still problems with some enemy AI, which haven't been fixed. A lot of the glitches I could take advantage of in GC still exist.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing BB, but there's a lot I'm not struck on too.