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saffaya
09-05-2002, 05:15 PM
according to NCS :
http://www.ncsx.org/2002/ncs090202/ncs0902th.htm
There COULD (conditional) be a compatibility problem with japanese GC modem working on Us GC.
They are actively checking out the matter and will update their website accordingly.
Thought you guys would like to keep on eye on the subject just in case.
Kenks23
09-05-2002, 05:45 PM
Hmm I hope it doesn't become a problem. I haven't preordered the import yet (which is kinda dumb yes since it comes out soon in Japan) but I was planning on doing that soon before it came out. My main issue was any sort of incompatability such as the one posed in this thread. I hope it is just a rumor or misconstrued news.
BrokenHope
09-05-2002, 05:56 PM
I don't see how it could be a problem since JP and US Gamecube hardware is almost identical.
Either way my Gamecube is japanese so doesn't affect me if this rumur turns out to be true,
l337_h4xOr
09-05-2002, 06:00 PM
the hardware IS identicle with the exception of one solder point. I don't know where this rumor came from but it seems kind of moot
Rubesahl
09-05-2002, 07:29 PM
I have a feeling the rumor isn't true. Well at least they will accept cancelations if worst comes to worst.
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TedEdFred
09-05-2002, 08:31 PM
*Got new modded spice GC to replace lost american GC http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif*
Dabra
09-05-2002, 08:36 PM
Solder point? does that mena it won't "fit" in US consoles?
Oh and i doubt this will be a matter anyway. I mean the people that had the pso trial version didn't have one single problem and they had a japanese BBA and a japanesegame...so.
_xX_Frosty_Xx_
09-05-2002, 08:49 PM
I didn't hear this rumor, and I doubt it's true. If this was the case, the trial addition players would be having some problems.
Rubesahl
09-05-2002, 09:44 PM
Hey that's very logical! Well that certainly is a good relief. Now I hope the BBA works just fine and I'm pretty sure it will http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
I wouldn't worry too much. I think this is more a case of the distributor in Japan covering themselves just in case there was a problem.
My only worry is if they are referring to a dial-up/Hunter's License problem for people trying to play outside Japan. But seeing how awkward V2.0 was, and how people still managed to get online with that, I'm sure we will be alright.
Only 1 week to go! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
BrokenHope
09-06-2002, 11:46 AM
*update*
NCSX has now posted this on there website:
"Sega is advising Japanese distributors that the Gamecube modem will not work properly outside of Japan. However, it is highly unlikely that Nintendo would enforce a territory lockout on any Gamecube hardware and unlikely that Sega would lock out the PSO software. Sega may be putting out this information to discourage international users from bombarding/using their servers in Japan before the USA network is up. We suppose that a raft of foolhardy clans from the States could eat up a lot of system resources if 48 hour marathon sessions are cobbled together. NCS will proceed with our order for the PSO + modem bundles next week but please be advised that our warning has been issued and customers will be purchasing the bundle with the knowledge that the modem may not work. We are fairly certain that the modem will function properly on a USA Gamecube but that's just a supposition on our part and we won't be able to test it for ourselves until next week. Until then, we'll continue checking with our sources at Sega and Nintendo for information."
saffaya
09-06-2002, 12:17 PM
dam .. you beat me to it http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Hehehehe... well, not quite the action I wanted Nintendo/Sega to take against importers, but good for a laugh at least.
l337_h4xOr
09-06-2002, 12:57 PM
On 2002-09-05 18:36, Dabra_Shenrox wrote:
Solder point? does that mena it won't "fit" in US consoles?
no, it's a place on the main board where electrical connections are made. you just need to alter the jumpers to make a us console "Japaneese". The US console even includes the japaneese BIOS.
SERGEMACHINE
09-06-2002, 05:01 PM
This is freaking me out!!
I dunno what to do here looking at my modded US Cube??
I have a friend with a Japanese Cube that would be willing to trade me for mine.
Then in theory i could mod it to play US games.
Ohh man this is really a shock.
Damn..damn..
amoralist
09-06-2002, 06:14 PM
... importing, overnight fees..., modem charges, imported PSOep, sigh... What a bad combination: "Don't let hunger happen to you."
Rubesahl
09-06-2002, 06:54 PM
Oh God that makes me mad the way they want to scare importers off. Reminds me of when they said that PSO isn't compatible with the BBA - _ -; Ended being completely false, even Ver.1 supported it O__o Well, NCSX told me they were going to test the modem and game on Tuesday since they get it before or something like that and they will announce customers before the games's release. It better work and the BBA too - _ _ If not I'll tell them to change that modded GC for a plain japanese one and there.
What I DO worry about is that Sega might want to stop importers in the buying Hunter's license part! @__@ This reminded me of my bad experience with the PSO PC registration in which you had to put fake address information to register it O_o... Plus they are STILL charging me monthly!! Arrgghhh.....I dunno.... I might consider cancelling the order.... Anyone else in my position...??
Also, what if they do that to us importers, what we're going to call and ask them in English why they are charging monthly? bah... For that matter why include the option to change languages in a japanese game if you don't want anyone else to buy it!
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TeamPhalanx
09-06-2002, 07:15 PM
I wouldn't worry. I can't think of one valid reason why there would be problems.
RedFox
09-07-2002, 07:40 AM
i considering importing a copy to play here in the UK instead of waiting a further 6 months. does anybody know if the PAL GC is as easy to mod etc?
BendMeOver
09-07-2002, 07:51 AM
i dont want to be messing around with my drica account thing again grrrrrrrrr
hopefully they are just being self like with the first 2 PSO letting the jps have all the fun before the rest of the world, even microsoft has stabs the west in the back letting Jp's have first go if want to know more about this Xbox issue PM i'll send you the news slip.
http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/upload_images/psogc1.jpg
saffaya
09-07-2002, 01:53 PM
does anybody know if the PAL GC is as easy to mod etc?
As far I as know, there is no way yet to mod a PAL GC.
The best hope is the freeloader disc, if Nintendo fails to block its distribution.
But that may not give component video output either.(for playing on a HDTV set or VGA monitor)
About the modem, there is no real reason to worry. Only a strong reason to stay tuned on news, that's all.
MetalGriever
09-07-2002, 02:28 PM
*kisses his JP GC*
The only major concern would be if they decide to block out all foreign IP's. That would be the stupidest move they ever made. Sure the game servers will be deluged with importers if they decide against that. However, there's a simple way around that... MAKE MORE SHIPS!
l337_h4xOr
09-07-2002, 02:45 PM
The IP would be the only viable solution.
Rubesahl
09-07-2002, 06:39 PM
Hmph! If they do that then you'll see a lot of PSOs on Ebay - ___ -;;;
MetalGriever
09-07-2002, 08:19 PM
That, or the people at ST will feel the same pain as Gravity did with Ragnarok Online. For the uninitiated, that basically means their main email is going to be flooded daily with scathing emails laced heavily with 4-letter words. Of course I'm sure ST will be hit even harder since we're having to pay to obtain the game and RO is a free beta.
Rubesahl
09-07-2002, 09:06 PM
Very True http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif I seriously think if they want to evade any problems at all, they should make an international release OR if they have so much pride to release it first then let them have them 1 week tops first. I wouldn't mind waiting one week at all but more than 3 freaks me out XD lol May sound stupid I know but I really want it. Plus they're getting the same money right? Well, only negative thing I see is that they'll see lower sales in the US because some imported but there aren't too many people that would be willing to pay more and go through the hassle to get it import O_o So they should let us import if we want and don't try to stop us or get better prepared and be equal to everybody and release it in 1 week for ALL countries, including UK O_o
Man this is stupid! Also if they dont want people hammering the servers DONT MAKE MORE COPIES THAN CAN FIT IN A SERVER!
Geez youd think peopl as smart as Sonic Team(that programmed the most glorious game of all time) can't figure out that if you have a server that holds 500 ppl you dont go and make 600 copies of the game..
Rubesahl
09-07-2002, 09:33 PM
Good point too
On 2002-09-07 19:15, Uska wrote:
Man this is stupid! Also if they dont want people hammering the servers DONT MAKE MORE COPIES THAN CAN FIT IN A SERVER!
Geez youd think peopl as smart as Sonic Team(that programmed the most glorious game of all time) can't figure out that if you have a server that holds 500 ppl you dont go and make 600 copies of the game..
Great point man! I mean, you rule! How could ST be so stupid to not impliment that plan?
Oh, don't look now... but I think somebody is poaching your Seal...
On 2002-09-07 19:37, Spy wrote:
On 2002-09-07 19:15, Uska wrote:
Man this is stupid! Also if they dont want people hammering the servers DONT MAKE MORE COPIES THAN CAN FIT IN A SERVER!
Geez youd think peopl as smart as Sonic Team(that programmed the most glorious game of all time) can't figure out that if you have a server that holds 500 ppl you dont go and make 600 copies of the game..
Great point man! I mean, you rule! How could ST be so stupid to not impliment that plan?
Oh, don't look now... but I think somebody is poaching your Seal...
right on brotha, lol. Smart people are prone to stupid mistakes(or stupidness) I guess..
if they block us IPs then u cant really do anything. We arent even supposed to be importing so complaining to ST wont do any good.
On 2002-09-07 19:51, Uska wrote:
right on brotha, lol. Smart people are prone to stupid mistakes(or stupidness) I guess..
Dear.. god. I swear these days my sarcasm is wasted. Why do I even bother?
Dabra
09-08-2002, 01:08 AM
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Dear.. god. I swear these days my sarcasm is wasted. Why do I even bother?
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I guess there really is a difference in post count, hence the saying that n00bs suck compared to veterans, ugh don't you just hate it?
Lejes
09-08-2002, 01:17 AM
I don't even see what's so wrong about importing. We're still getting the game, it's not like we're pirating. Our hard eraned money still goes to their already full pockets, so what would they have against it?
On 2002-09-07 23:08, Dabra_Shenrox wrote:
I guess there really is a difference in post count, hence the saying that n00bs suck compared to veterans, ugh don't you just hate it?
I must have finally lost it. I know that I should be able to see it... but I just can't. Something's obviously wrong when you're finding connections to the things that I type that I don't even see. I know... I'll go get a catscan.
watashiwa
09-08-2002, 05:46 AM
Good thing I have a modified Japanese Gamecube that's modified to play US games. :P
And, OMG, I just realized ... GC PSO this week!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111111111 11111111 OMGOMGOMG!!! >:D
Dabra
09-08-2002, 09:55 AM
That's not it Wata, it's that Sega might block every US ISP so that we can't play on japanese servers, after all japanese gamers have priority over us and if we bombard them with so much, god knows what will happen.
lars_der_held
09-08-2002, 10:23 AM
Yes, I think IP-Block is a realistic threat. If it is the case, I hope that this won't effect Europe, especially Germany, where I live...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif. Not so many importers here, an maybe ST shows mercy http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif
saffaya
09-08-2002, 01:59 PM
Where did that IP-block thing come from to begin with ?
There has been no hint about such a thing, right ?
Doesn't make sense. Sega sells a zillion Jp PSO on GC = a zillion customer log on servers.
Doesn't make a difference wether they are in japan or abroad.
It's not like Us or Eu players will slow down the experience for Jp users due to the distance.
I can't beleive people are actually questioning why ST/Sega wouldn't want American players on their servers. I mean, if you could stop all the half-brained 13 yr. old shits on Oberon 1 from logging on, wouldn't you?
Yes, yes, most of those GS'ing horny scumbags aren't importing, but that's the impression we've obviously left on Corporate Sega. Stereotypes suck, but that life.
watashiwa
09-08-2002, 03:09 PM
Yeah, I read your stupid thing about IP blocking. And I ignored it because it was just that, stupid.
Sega and Sonic Team are not going to IP block anybody, period.
If you have some proof or an official word from them that states they will do it, then link me, otherwise please STFU kthkgg555.
Anyway, PSO on GC this week!!! =D
TedEdFred
09-08-2002, 04:14 PM
Blame barubary for the ip block thing. It started with him, when version 2 was out for a short while I think..
On 2002-09-08 14:14, TedEdFred wrote:
Blame barubary for the ip block thing. It started with him, when version 2 was out for a short while I think..
Maybe three people here, myself included, can blame Barubary. Everyone else here in their grand stupidity bowed down to him for his wonderful US > JP v2 character x-fer code for the Xploder.
Everyone sure got what they deserved for that one http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
Rubesahl
09-08-2002, 05:13 PM
Well I'm going to risk it I guess. lol Have you ever stopped and think that maybe a japanese person would move from Japan to the States and couldn't play his PSO because the IP is blocked XD that'd be sad lol. As for the GC, I'll be sure to tell NCSX to give me a JAPANESE Gamecube modded to play US games. Otherwise PSO next week for me -sigh- the torture of living in Puerto Rico and not having "Next Day" shipping V__v;; Maybe I can pick it up in their offices in the weekend? anyone else tried that? Well don't answer if you want since this really isn't the place to ask that O O;
l337_h4xOr
09-08-2002, 05:16 PM
Geez youd think peopl as smart as Sonic Team(that programmed the most glorious game of all time) can't figure out that if you have a server that holds 500 ppl you dont go and make 600 copies of the game..
Except for the fact that not all "500" will be logged in at the same time. Durr...
l337_h4xOr
09-08-2002, 05:19 PM
On 2002-09-08 11:59, saffaya wrote:
Where did that IP-block thing come from to begin with ?
There has been no hint about such a thing, right ?
There has not.
I only use it as an example because it is much more of a realistic way to block Importers rather then make a modem lockout.
On 2002-09-08 15:16, 1337_h4xOr wrote:
Geez youd think peopl as smart as Sonic Team(that programmed the most glorious game of all time) can't figure out that if you have a server that holds 500 ppl you dont go and make 600 copies of the game..
Except for the fact that not all "500" will be logged in at the same time. Durr...
Well see what I mean by that is that they dont want too many ppl on the server, sooo they could LESS copies than can fit in a server. Cause they wont ALL get on at the same time, but chances are many will and that's what they dont want. It's illogical to make many more copies and not want/not expect the servers to be used by many of those fans anxoius to get online..
And another solution would be to add a new server if it gets too crowded, I mean if all those ppl pay the game a Hunter's Liscence each they SHOULD be able to afford another few servers..
And if they made the IP/modem crap, imagine how hard it is to get a HL! Geez I thought Nintendo were making bad choices, but with all due respect, Sega needs to wise up a bit too.
On 2002-09-08 16:14, Uska wrote:
Well see what I mean by that is that they dont want too many ppl on the server, sooo they could LESS copies than can fit in a server. Cause they wont ALL get on at the same time, but chances are many will and that's what they dont want. It's illogical to make many more copies and not want/not expect the servers to be used by many of those fans anxoius to get online..
And another solution would be to add a new server if it gets too crowded, I mean if all those ppl pay the game a Hunter's Liscence each they SHOULD be able to afford another few servers..
And if they made the IP/modem crap, imagine how hard it is to get a HL! Geez I thought Nintendo were making bad choices, but with all due respect, Sega needs to wise up a bit too.
Ack! The poachers are making another move for The Seal in all it's blubbery goodness!
On 2002-09-08 16:34, Spy wrote:
On 2002-09-08 16:14, Uska wrote:
Well see what I mean by that is that they dont want too many ppl on the server, sooo they could LESS copies than can fit in a server. Cause they wont ALL get on at the same time, but chances are many will and that's what they dont want. It's illogical to make many more copies and not want/not expect the servers to be used by many of those fans anxoius to get online..
And another solution would be to add a new server if it gets too crowded, I mean if all those ppl pay the game a Hunter's Liscence each they SHOULD be able to afford another few servers..
And if they made the IP/modem crap, imagine how hard it is to get a HL! Geez I thought Nintendo were making bad choices, but with all due respect, Sega needs to wise up a bit too.
Ack! The poachers are making another move for The Seal in all it's blubbery goodness!
eh wacha mean by that?
On 2002-09-08 16:39, Uska wrote:
eh wacha mean by that?
And what do you mean by that?
ChokingVictim
09-08-2002, 06:57 PM
devil's advocate....
how many people will hook their cube up to a networked pc and spend the many hours figuring out out to proxy their ip to make it *appear* like it's coming straight from the land of the rising sun if they do decide to block of all of us dirty gaijins from their systems?
and by the way...proxying well is a royal pain in the ass... you will hate your computer over and over
On 2002-09-08 16:45, Spy wrote:
On 2002-09-08 16:39, Uska wrote:
eh wacha mean by that?
And what do you mean by that?
I meant what I meant. err what did you mean about the seal thingy?
On 2002-09-08 17:02, Uska wrote:
I meant what I meant. err what did you mean about the seal thingy?
Um... eat Super Toast! It's toast... improved!
hopesfall27
09-08-2002, 08:05 PM
I have a switch to change what region my Gamecube is in, so I'm hoping I won't have a problem.
Jonathan_F
09-09-2002, 07:22 AM
if i have to play offline for a month i will. now question is will my boot disk work. if not i'll send it back and solder it instead.
ChokingVictim
09-09-2002, 04:13 PM
i doubt you can change your ip number on a GC by mere means of flipping a switch..forging an I.P. is a royal pain in the ass... and even if you do a good proxy job, they can still tell it's a proxy usually
nightopian
09-09-2002, 07:32 PM
this is scary.
i hope they just add a region to the modem since I got my cube modded.
Javier_Von_Fenrir
09-10-2002, 12:06 AM
Well, personally, I wont be getting online with PSO till OCtober (earliest) with the BBA. Hopefulyl by that time thigns will be in order and a nice lil Importing Faq will be online.Anyone else doing the sensible thing and waiting for BBA?
I'll still be enjoying PSO offline earning the new Maps and finding Rares. Not to mention toying with the character creation and playing with new classes and multiplayer offline.
SERGEMACHINE
09-10-2002, 12:08 AM
That is what i am doing too Javier,waiting for the BBA.
Playing offline will be great.
It dosen't bother me in the least. =)
SERGEMACHINE
09-10-2002, 12:15 AM
That is what i am doing too Javier,waiting for the BBA.
Playing offline will be great.
It dosen't bother me in the least. =)
VariantXL
09-10-2002, 01:20 AM
They probaly generated this rumor to protect us sales of pso E1&E2 since of those numbers of copies of games being sold in japan on launch id say at the absolute most is 5% of which is imported from other countries. And if you already import a game whats the point of buying it again just because its a version with a bit of code that states its a us version rather than a japanese version of the game when the game has FULL english text in it. I can sort of understand why if they did have an ip block but it is DEFINATELY unacceptable to wait a few weeks before the game is released to pull this crap on importers. There wouldnt be so much importing for them to worry about if they'd just actually make a credible attempt to have a worldwide release date.
And if they have complaints about servers... buy more instead of divvying up all of the game servers between 2 or 3 versions of a game.
Rubesahl
09-10-2002, 06:19 PM
On 2002-09-09 22:06, Javier_Von_Fenrir wrote:
Well, personally, I wont be getting online with PSO till OCtober (earliest) with the BBA. Hopefulyl by that time thigns will be in order and a nice lil Importing Faq will be online.Anyone else doing the sensible thing and waiting for BBA?
I'll still be enjoying PSO offline earning the new Maps and finding Rares. Not to mention toying with the character creation and playing with new classes and multiplayer offline.
That would also mean me http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Meet ya there http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif
Javier_Von_Fenrir
09-10-2002, 07:16 PM
My only hope is that PSO has not become tainted with cheating and duping by the time I get online. Personally I'd be happy if we could enjoy 3-4 monthes of legit playing.
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