link techs to photon arts

[Inazuma]

i squinted my eyes and attempted to read some of this scan
http://www.gamesarefun.com/games/ps2/psu/PSUscan2.jpg
not only does it say you can become better w/ certain weapon types, like a speciality, but it mentions linking techniques to photon arts.

you can pick which tech to link to a photon art so you can deal more damage to a monster who is weak to that element. very cool. i was already very impressed w/ the photon art system but being able to link techs on top of it makes it even better.

[OdinTyler]

Good news indeed. TY for the update. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[FantasyJoy]

not only does it say you can become better w/ certain weapon types, like a speciality,

I see we were right on that. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Thanks for translating.

[Lovejuice]

Nifty info... I'm especially fond of the 'weapon mastery' schtick. This leads me onto another musing - I wonder if different races/classes will have different animations and stuff? I mean, in PSO everyone could attack with (almost) every weapon type, with more or less the same animation as everyone else (the only variable seemed to be God/Battles and stuff, Punches, and the eventual inclusion of the HUcaseal).

In the videos where we've seen Ethan lumbering around with the jumbo Sword, he's been like a brick - perhaps in the hands of more proficient 'melee' types (Beast/Cast) they'll be quicker or something, yet falter with nimble equipment such as Sabres/Daggers. Although, of course this 'mastery' might just be the thing that lets everyone choose instead..

Still, Elemental-linking will be nifty. Especially if it's something we can change on the fly. Although Forces will now have to pry Technique disks from the cold, dead, hands of most hand-to-hand fighters. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[OdinTyler]

Do we know if elemental types can be combined? Say wind & ice for an arctic wind blast? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif If combos could be initiated similar to PSIV (but geared for the action set up of PSO/PSU), Id love to see that.

[RoninJoku]

hmmm... intriguing... This may redeem my views on techniques in the game...

[OdinTyler]

Hopefully all this variety we're seeing will only lead to more. We dont get news that often but what we get only becomes more & more amazing.

[Rion772]

I was right! I knew we could adapt and get better with the weapons we use.

[OdinTyler]

YOU were right? Dont you think a few of us had input on this? We're speculating on alot but going on the demo, I saw potential for more. Did you play the demo Rion? Idk where you live, so Im just asking. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Rion772]

On 2005-11-01 15:06, OdinTyler wrote:
YOU were right? Dont you think a few of us had input on this? We're speculating on alot but going on the demo, I saw potential for more. Did you play the demo Rion? Idk where you live, so Im just asking. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


Nope, all of my ideas are based off of theory, I live in New York though. ANIMEniac said it differently, I made it more clear and added sooo. Speaking of demos...I wonder if a demo disc will come out in playstation magazine or whatever?

[OdinTyler]

On 2005-11-02 03:14, Rion772 wrote:


On 2005-11-01 15:06, OdinTyler wrote:
YOU were right? Dont you think a few of us had input on this? We're speculating on alot but going on the demo, I saw potential for more. Did you play the demo Rion? Idk where you live, so Im just asking. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


Nope, all of my ideas are based off of theory, I live in New York though. ANIMEniac said it differently, I made it more clear and added sooo. Speaking of demos...I wonder if a demo disc will come out in playstation magazine or whatever?



Well, then, you werent the only one who was right tho. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif If youre here in NY, how come you didnt play the demo? You shouldve came to the convention. It was great! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[PhruitBaskit]

That will be awesome! Cool update...God I love new info! That is a very good thing for PSU. I'm glad to have that theory proven true http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[OdinTyler]

It would be nice if there were a demo disc in a mag but I doubt it will happen. With still no release date, no announcement of a beta test...we cant even seriously preorder...what else have we to go on? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[PhruitBaskit]

Nothing! And it sucks...We don't even have a release date? Come on ST! You owe us one! As for a demo disc, well, I hate them...I don't know why...I guess I just never liked them. A PSU demo would just tease us more and make the game less exciting when it comes out. NO DEMOS! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Let's keep PSU a surprise until it's released

[OdinTyler]

Well, its not totally a surprise as Ive played it. I didnt get to test out the Photon Arts but I did see some crazy stuff on video. Ethan did a pretty sweet combo & he finished it off with a roundhouse kick. No, Im NOT making this up. I had to watch it a couple times to make sure I was seeing this right! He REALLY DOES do a roundhouse kick. Dude, it was soooo sweet! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[PhruitBaskit]

A roundhouse kick!?! That's freakin' cool! PSU is going to have some pretty sweet fist-type combat. This combo system is going to be sooo awesome...PSU is going to be very crazy...

And I have no problem with demos that ST would show at videogame conventions...Those are all good because they aren't played by ten million people http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[_Tek_]

This is still old news, we've known about this for awhile, if you've followed all the media.

[OdinTyler]

No Phruit, not ten million but there were alot of ppl that did try PSU. I think it was 2 or 3 stations just for that. At times, youd have to wait for someone up ahead of you. Wasnt too bad except for teens that wanna hog it. I almost had to 'remove' one kid cause he wouldnt cough it up. So what if it was my 4th time playing? I wanted to play again, dammit! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[PhruitBaskit]

On 2005-11-03 10:21, PhruitBaskit wrote:
And I have no problem with demos that ST would show at videogame conventions...Those are all good because they aren't played by ten million people http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I know, Odin. You misunderstood what I said. I know ten million people didn't play the demo at that convention. That's why I don't mind those kind of demos. I said I like them BECAUSE they weren't played by ten million people. The ones that ten million people do play are those demo discs that you can get from PS2 Magazine. Now those are lame cuz 10 million people do play them. Let's keep PSU a surprise until it comes out, okay? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[OdinTyler]

Not a TOTAL surprise. Im just excited about it as you, if not more so. Id have to say more so because I cant wait to be able to regularly hold a saber in 1h instead of the 2h Im used to now. Id have fun w/just coming up with crazy weapon style combos. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[PhruitBaskit]

All right, let's just say we're both excited about PSU http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Ooh yes! The crazy weapon combinations are definately going to be a bug prat of the fun.

And no...Not a total surprise...

[OdinTyler]

Whats a bug prat?

[PhruitBaskit]

Did I type that!?! Oops, I meant to say 'big part' http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Bug prat...It sounds funny!

[OdinTyler]

Maybe that could be our next running gag. Only thing is...what should 'bug prat' mean? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[PhruitBaskit]

That is a very good question. Bug prat...

And sorry to everyone else on the forums, I'll get back on topic http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[OdinTyler]

Maybe you should write to ST & ask them to add the Bug Prat Photon Art? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif See? Im still on topic. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[ANIMEniac]

ok but we need to look at the bug practure, wil there be rare photon arts? or like T.H.U.G. creat a trick make a create a PA, where like after obtaining a s-rank like status you could make a PA and motion animation?

[OdinTyler]

Idk but Phruit & I are kinda trademarking the whole Bug Prat thing. We need to conference first to see what we're gonna do with it. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[PhruitBaskit]

Create-A-Photon Art? That would be pissed! If there are S-Ranks, and they are customizable...A possible use for bug prat, I think http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[OdinTyler]

The Bug Prat Bazooka. Yes, make it easier to get S-Ranks or w/e theyd be called now. The possibility of naming your weps (please more than the 8 or so letters that existed before) would be most welcome...& cool. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[PhruitBaskit]

Yes, a limit of more than eight slots would allow for some way better names...I hate limits. That eight letter limit in PSO kind of sucked but oh well, who's going to change it? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Let's have ten at least!

[Rion772]

I wonder if we could make a chain/combo of tech and photon arts.

Example: do a photon art then link it to a tech then to a photon art then to a tech then a photon art and so and so forth...?

[OdinTyler]

I dont see why not. Its just a matter of getting the play mechanics down. Admittedly, its tricky trying to remember you have a regular combo & a super combo & thats just for your right hand. Nevermind you still havent attacked with your left hand. I think as we get more proficient with linking combos, Im sure we'll come up with all types of crazy stuff.

[Rion772]

No doubt, trust me I'll be putting together the craziest looking combo's possible but since it's been said we can link them I wonder when they'll mention if you can loop them or not.

[OdinTyler]

I gotta disagree with ya. I will be doing the craziest combos. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif As for when theyll update Photon Arts info...they seem to be bouncing over the same categories, rather randomly. Like I said, someone should write to them asking them to post certain info.

[Rion772]

On 2005-11-06 06:12, OdinTyler wrote:
I gotta disagree with ya. I will be doing the craziest combos. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif As for when theyll update Photon Arts info...they seem to be bouncing over the same categories, rather randomly. Like I said, someone should write to them asking them to post certain info.


You want someone to do it, so do it.

I just want to loop my combos...

[F-o-x]

Loop combos? They wouldn't let us do that would they? Then we could just endlessly combo the heck out of something until it dies.

[Rion772]

That's the whole point of combo's in battle...

I doubt they would, it just seemed like a good idea.

[OdinTyler]

No, we'll be able to do combos. Theres going to be spaces tho otherwise we would be immortal. I clearly remember breaks inbetween from playing. Thats part of the learning curve with this game. Getting your moves in, then dodging, so, you can attack again. You very easily can get surrounded...then, theres poor Hyuga to worry about...

[Rion772]

On 2005-11-06 18:31, OdinTyler wrote:
No, we'll be able to do combos. Theres going to be spaces tho otherwise we would be immortal. I clearly remember breaks inbetween from playing. Thats part of the learning curve with this game. Getting your moves in, then dodging, so, you can attack again. You very easily can get surrounded...then, theres poor Hyuga to worry about...


Not entirely true, if you're an animal (meaning you're just a powerhouse) then you won't need to worry about that. It would be sweet if we could loop though, it would make the game real easy as well...

[OdinTyler]

No, TRUST ME, we're not gonna have non stop hit combos. This isnt a run of the mill cheap fighting game where we can endlessly combo someone. Its just not realistic. Yet the AI doesnt seem to have that problem & feels free to attack relentlessly. Its going to feel similar to PSO, but, have a bit more freedom of movement with added abilities. Dont worry, youll see...

[Rion772]

On 2005-11-06 19:55, OdinTyler wrote:
No, TRUST ME, we're not gonna have non stop hit combos. This isnt a run of the mill cheap fighting game where we can endlessly combo someone. Its just not realistic. Yet the AI doesnt seem to have that problem & feels free to attack relentlessly. Its going to feel similar to PSO, but, have a bit more freedom of movement with added abilities. Dont worry, youll see...


Yeah? tell me something I don't know. I don't expect us to be able to loop combos, I said it would be kind of cool.

[PhruitBaskit]

Yeah, looped combos, though highly unlikely, would be very cool. It would be fun to be able to unlimitlessly (is that a word?) attack enemies until they die. But then it would take a bunch of the challenge out of PSU. And challenges are part of the fun of video games, aren't they? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Rion772]

Yeah that or ST could make every enemy ridiculously hard...which would suck if you got hit even once.

I'm pretty sure unlimitlessly is a word, if not, you can make it your own.

[OdinTyler]

1) Thus, the need for team spirit & participation. Seeing ppl solo bosses repeatedly gets old real quick. Its great to have a party take down a difficult enemy & then, celebrate an overwhelming victory. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

2) Unlimitlessly isnt exactly a word. You could make it a word, but, technically its a contradiction. Another way to say unlimitlessly would be limited. The 'un' & 'less' would negate each other. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[PhruitBaskit]

On 2005-11-07 19:28, OdinTyler wrote:
Unlimitlessly isnt exactly a word. You could make it a word, but, technically its a contradiction. Another way to say unlimitlessly would be limited. The 'un' & 'less' would negate each other. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Whatever the hell that means http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

I think that overly-powerful enemies would suck. Mainly because, like you said Rion, getting hit once would take too much of a toll on your health. And like Odin said, it would make having a team to play with that much more of an advantage. You've got to love those boss-beat victory celebrations. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Maybe I'll have to make 'unlimitlessly' a word. If it isn't already one, that is. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Zaphile]

I hope it's not as complicated as Final Fantasy XI's Skill Chain/Magic Burst system, I STILL haven't grasped that whole concept..

[PhruitBaskit]

Well that's Final Fantasy for ya...Still not as good as Phantasy Star http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[F-o-x]

The only thing that makes FFXI's system complicated is the fact that there are an insane number of different combinations to make any given skillchain effect.

Although talking about FFXI... wouldn't it be kind of cool if we could end a combo with a Photon Art of a certain element, and one of our teammates casted a technique of the same element onto the enemy for added damage? Its the same as magic bursting for all those who've played FFXI. Although in a game like this something like that wouldn't really have any use outside of a Boss/Mid-Boss fight, because normal enemies get cut down so quickly in a game like this.

In hindsight that probably isn't a good idea for the simple fact that no one would ever take the time to do it on normal enemies which is what we'll be fighting most of the time.

[OdinTyler]

Guys can we stop comparing PS to FF? There is NO comparison. PS wins! Besides, its a PS post. Lets focus on that, thanks. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[PhruitBaskit]

No comparison at all! Phantasy Star kicks Final Fantasy ass! It just does...Nothing more than that http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Besides, this is PSOW

[F-o-x]

Yeah I guess you guys are right... I played FFXI for about 7 months. PSO all in all has had me hooked for over 3 years so it wins by a longshot (Hell I never would have even picked up FFXI if PSO EP1&2 wasn't so hacked up).

Oh... damn. I did it again didn't I? Errm okay. No more talk of Final Fantasy. I swear. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_shy.gif

[OdinTyler]

Well, if you make comparisons about 2 games but not going overboard, its ok. Ive talked about things Ive noticed in EQOA on PS2. However, this is a PS site & PS1 was my 1st rpg. Ultimately, my loyalties are to it. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Just as long as it relates to PS...that & no bashing of PS. Zero tolerance for it here. From me anyway! LOL

[PhruitBaskit]

On 2005-11-08 15:22, F-o-x wrote:
Yeah I guess you guys are right... I played FFXI for about 7 months. PSO all in all has had me hooked for over 3 years so it wins by a longshot.

At least YOU know PS is better...Unlike some people ::cough...Blackwaltz...cough, cough:: And I don't really mind making comparisons, it's the bashing of Phantasy Star that pisses me off http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Rion772]

You can't say PS is better than FF, more people play FF compared to PS. Now I'm not bashing PS but FF and PS came out at the same time or something (I think) and a lot more people play FF and it's made more money...garunteed. Also less people know what PS and more know what FF is, therefor it's more popular, also have you seen any movies that are actually released on DVD and VHS about PS? I havn't. Now the PS bashing did piss me off but you can't say PS and FF are even actually similiar, if they were more alike then PS would be super popular.

[PhruitBaskit]

Yes I can say PS is better than FF (I have every right to http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif). If we we judged games by how much money they made the companies that made them then yes FF woulb be considered better but that's not how we, the players, look at games...Just because FF is more popular than SP does NOT make FF a better series. I'll bet it's been said about a million time on this site. PS kicks FF ass! Popularity blows...It's not what makes PS better than FF (cuz FF sucks compared to PS) Phantasy Star is just better because it is...I love the story way more than FF's.

And if a movie based on the game makes FF better than PS then at least make it a good movie (FF's movie sucked a BIG fatty both in the box-office and on the movie screen). Phantasy Star is 'unlimitlessly' better than FF!!!



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[Rion772]

On 2005-11-08 15:57, PhruitBaskit wrote:
Yes I can say PS is better than FF (I have every right to http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif). If we we judged games by how much money they made the companies that made them then yes FF woulb be considered better but that's not how we, the players, look at games...Just because FF is more popular than SP does NOT make FF a better series. I'll bet it's been said about a million time on this site. PS kicks FF ass! Popularity blows...It's not what makes PS better than FF (cuz FF sucks compared to PS) Phantasy Star is just better because it is...I love the story way more than FF's.

And if a movie based on the game makes FF better than PS then at least make it a good movie (FF's movie sucked a BIG fatty both in the box-office and on the movie screen). Phantasy Star is 'unlimitlessly' better than FF!!!



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Well in YOUR opinion it's better, meaning you like it more but statistically PS is inferior to FF. I agree, PS is better, I was never able to get into FF's ridiculous unrealistic battle system (it really does suck worse than the FF movie). I saw the FF movie on HBO for the first time a year or 2 ago and I have to say I dissaprove, for 1 the animation was good but the monsters were just...plasma??? I don't know, they were like see through deadly things. In FF if a monster could simple kill you by putting it's hand on your head the game would be over real quick. A PS movie, made in the way that PSU is (from what we know so far) would just be super amazing, If the monster were real, and not plasma shits then I would watch it on the first day like I did last week with Jarhead. (btw, great movie...some pornographic images but it was good, I say that those are bad because my neighbor was sitting next to me who was sitting next to my mom...I don't even want to know what she thought afer, something like "Oh my god my son saw sex!!!"

[OdinTyler]

OK OK let an RPG vet talk about this for a sec. Some points to bring up:

1) Phantasy Star came out before Final Fantasy.

2) Most FF fans started with FFVII, where there was already a cult following of PS fans.

3) Just because alot of fan boys take to one game & suddenly create such popularity, doesnt mean its better than every other type of game in the same genre. That was the problem with fighting games. Ppl made Street Fighter 'better' than any other fighting type.

4) Graphically, the FF movie was great. However, the story needed work. I found out that the movie wouldve caused Square to go bankrupt. If they didnt merge with Enix, they'd be gone now & there would probably never be another FF game again. Despite all Sega's problems, no blow ever hit Phantasy Star like that.

Now, we can have our opinions which is better & all. However, playing games as long as I have, Ive seen some good & bad games. Not all the FF games are good. I cant say that about PS. Theyre ALL good! Oh & did I mention that Square stole Espers from Phantasy Star? Yep, they did that in FFVI. Now, if they steal Photon Arts, Im gonna get mad.

[Rion772]

On 2005-11-08 16:18, OdinTyler wrote:
OK OK let an RPG vet talk about this for a sec. Some points to bring up:

1) Phantasy Star came out before Final Fantasy.

2) Most FF fans started with FFVII, where there was already a cult following of PS fans.

3) Just because alot of fan boys take to one game & suddenly create such popularity, doesnt mean its better than every other type of game in the same genre. That was the problem with fighting games. Ppl made Street Fighter 'better' than any other fighting type.

4) Graphically, the FF movie was great. However, the story needed work. I found out that the movie wouldve caused Square to go bankrupt. If they didnt merge with Enix, they'd be gone now & there would probably never be another FF game again. Despite all Sega's problems, no blow ever hit Phantasy Star like that.

Now, we can have our opinions which is better & all. However, playing games as long as I have, Ive seen some good & bad games. Not all the FF games are good. I cant say that about PS. Theyre ALL good! Oh & did I mention that Square stole Espers from Phantasy Star? Yep, they did that in FFVI. Now, if they steal Photon Arts, Im gonna get mad.


I'm pretty sure all of us have seen a lot of good and bad RPG's, I've played a lot of old and new games that came out in the past 10-15 years (the fact that I have the original Tekken and it still works helps). I never knew that square was going to go bankrupt had they not merged with Enix. A lot of FF games were bad, 9 was aweful and I thought 10 and 10-2 was aweful too. But the point is that FF has made more money, sold more copies and has more players so it is more popular, having a high popularity over PS means that more people play it making it a better game in some ways.

A perfect example is that I REALLY, REALLY dislike all of the new GTA's starting at 3, I liked 2, it was fun most of the time. Just because almost all of us here prefer PS doesn't mean that it's the better game, it just has a lot of fans on one site. Truly, in my opinion PS is the better game, I've played PS 10x if not 100x (theres a big gap there, I know) more than I've played FF. But more people like it, many people prefer it over PS and it's been out for less time but still a long time making it better to the people in this country/world. With story, and how fun it is PS is better or the same but the graphics in FF are technically better, and that's what a majority of todays RPG fans look for. Many say "aw this game sounds good but the graphics suck, I won't get it".

[Zaphile]

Well, PSO was my first ever online game, that gives it bonus points to me. And, I still like PSO's fighting style better than FFXI's, it's more- interactive. Like, in FFXI you cannot hit an enemy in a weak spot, you just hit it. So, which ever is better is up to you... Personally I like them equally, mostly because of RAmars and Elvaan. ( <3 )

But, anyways...

[F-o-x]

I like PSO better than FFXI for one reason (well mainly one reason...) In PSO you're a badass who can take down hordes of enemies on your own, yet in FFXI you're a p***y who needs five other people to kill anything worth killing after level ten.

PSO was my first online game also, plus its in the second ever RPG series I played (after Shining Force) so it gets even more bonus points from me http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Parn]

You're pretty much on the money regarding FFXI. Glad I'm not the only one that felt retarded being in a group of six people fighting a single crab at a time half a player's size for a minute and a half over, and over, and over. And then when you think you've made some progress in the game and are more than 2/3 of the way to the game's level 75 cap, there's yet stronger crabs to look forward to! YEAH! Nothing beats losing 1/8 of your HP from BUBBLE SHOWER!

Can't believe I wasted so much time on that game. I've pretty much sworn off MMORPGs for the time being... a release date for PSU would be just wonderful right about now.



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[OdinTyler]

As great as MMOs can be, it can get rather tedious. Having a Lv cap of 60 or higher may not seem like much, but, when you factor in how much xp you need just to gain a single lvl, it becomes truly preposterous. Yes, some monsters you need help from others. However, when ppl talk about team spirit, yet, go off to solo bosses, it negates itself. Been my experience that you get herded into certain situations when youre on an MMO. The great thing about PSO is you can choose to solo or bring in friends & either way its fun. I know that can only continue into PSU.
Im glad to see that for some ppl, PSO wasnt their first RPG & I must agree that the Shining Force series is great. A nice break from tradition & action in that you MUST rely on strategy to get ahead. Ive seen some ppl's ideas of strategies online...not too great. Just leads to unnecessary death. Lets just plan here & now to come up with strategies where we all have a say & it only leads to fun, not annoyance.

[F-o-x]

I agree. We shouldn't try to run into things headfirst and get killed http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif We need to take our time.

Tyler we seriously need to hang out once PSU hits. Anyone whos a fan of the Shining Force series and the Phantasy Star series gets major points in my book.

Also, Parn I know what you mean. I have no idea why I stuck with FFXI as long as I did either. I can't tell you how many days I've wasted shouting in you-know-where trying to do some retarded quest that only benifits me (Its kinda hard trying to convince 17 other people to help you with something when they get nothing out of it -_-)



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[Rion772]

I like PS way better than any FF, I liked FF8 a little bit but the battle system is just stupid. It's too unrealistic, since when is an agressive killer going to sit and wait for you to kill them?

I always wanted to play shining force, I've watched my dad play it A LOT so I don't get much of a chance to play.

[PhruitBaskit]

So now I think it's safe to say that (almost) everyone here thinks that PS is a way better series than FF. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif In just about every way it's way better. Way better...

[OdinTyler]

Fox, I couldnt agree more. Been a Shining fan since Shining Force & Shining In The Darkness. Havent played every game in the series, but thats a good game to learn how to strategize. Strategies I intend to apply to PSU. I dont know if you have a team/group/guild you want to join. If you dont have one, feel free to team up with mine. If not, you still can. Just thought Id offer. Yep, we can hang, compare war stories & memories. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif The Shining series isnt #1 in my book. That slot is reserved for PS & PSU will prove that point even more so. However, among strategy games, Id say Shining is quite up there. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Rion772]

It's obviously been said that we can link photon arts and techs or whatever. One would think that you could link photon arts to normal attacks but it hasn't been confirmed has it.

[OdinTyler]

Well, I dont see why not. All a matter of creativity & ingenuity when figuring out combos. Start with regular hits & if they connect, throw something in, including a photon art. I think we're making too big a deal of it. Im just hoping the combos themselves are awesome, not so much if we can link em left & right.

[Rion772]

On 2005-11-14 19:44, OdinTyler wrote:
Well, I dont see why not. All a matter of creativity & ingenuity when figuring out combos. Start with regular hits & if they connect, throw something in, including a photon art. I think we're making too big a deal of it. Im just hoping the combos themselves are awesome, not so much if we can link em left & right.


Well we couldn't really link them all THAT much. Remember, up to 6 hit combos? A photon art is probably worth 2 combos though but that would still be worth it.

[F-o-x]

After reading some stuff from people who played the demo I thought that Photon Arts were the new "Hard Attack". We'll be able to do 3 normal attacks followed by 3 more uses of Photon Arts. Unless thats what you guys are already saying and I'm misunderstanding http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[OdinTyler]

Guys, youre trying to complicate it too much. Its just been said that we can get a combo UP to 6 hits. It never said we cant use combo after combo after combo. Just that a combo by itself can get up to 6 hits. Thought Id clarify that. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Rion772]

On 2005-11-15 08:50, OdinTyler wrote:
Guys, youre trying to complicate it too much. Its just been said that we can get a combo UP to 6 hits. It never said we cant use combo after combo after combo. Just that a combo by itself can get up to 6 hits. Thought Id clarify that. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


I already know that, when the news was released I wasn't like "oh yay a combo can't get up to 6 hits!". I don't think anyone else did that either, it would be rather intersting.