TAKE THAT!!!!XBOX's PSO is PSO eps1&2 [Archive]

BioFan

09-20-2002, 12:38 AM

Now who is wrong??TOld you to keep quiet back then...now they have announce it and Xbox is getting eps1&2...HA!!now who is laughing...
http://sega.jp/x/pso

good news...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[ This Message was edited by: BioFan on 2002-09-19 22:41 ]

Castoth

09-20-2002, 12:48 AM

...Your point is? At the moment, it's only GC PSO with one extra character class. I'd rather get the game in one month with one less character class to play rather than wait until at least June when XBox Live is scheduled to launch. ST would have to add more features than just one more playable character to make me look twice at the XBox version.

Spy

09-20-2002, 12:49 AM

All 73h mad h4xors will 73ar i7 up! PH34R TH3M!!!

BioFan

09-20-2002, 12:55 AM

On 2002-09-19 22:48, Chaos_Knight wrote:
...Your point is? At the moment, it's only GC PSO with one extra character class. I'd rather get the game in one month with one less character class to play rather than wait until at least June when XBox Live is scheduled to launch. ST would have to add more features than just one more playable character to make me look twice at the XBox version.

that is not the point...the point is some people here a while ago said that it will be nothing more than ver.2...So I am directing to those people...get whichever version you want...its your money...both are the same game...I have no problem with you getting GCN version...none of my business...just posting so those saying Xbox only getting ver.2 port will shut up...

[ This Message was edited by: BioFan on 2002-09-19 22:58 ]

Spy

09-20-2002, 01:05 AM

It's a gamecube port with one new character. Yippie.

Castoth

09-20-2002, 01:07 AM

Well, from early screenshots, that's how it appeared to be. At least ST isn't porting an old version to XBox after seeing this though.

On a side note, anyone else notice that the post message screen is now a lot different?

Spy

09-20-2002, 01:12 AM

Chaos, check Site Related, thread "Plans for PSOW" or something like that... it's sticky.

Castoth

09-20-2002, 01:20 AM

No wonder. I don't think I've even opened that board once in my time here, heh. Oh well, thanks.

Spy

09-20-2002, 01:22 AM

Np.

Riel

09-20-2002, 05:17 AM

This is in fact good news and i would definitly be saying yippee if the XBox version would be coming out at the same time as the US version of the Gamecube,but it looks like it won't,although no date has been given yet.The fact remains that it's not just a port of DC V2,you get an xtra character,you get a keyboard option,on top of being able to use the voice chat as well inside the games.If the version(Gamecube and XBox) would come out at the same time,i would probably pick up the XBox version.

ABDUR101

09-20-2002, 09:28 AM

Looks like I'll get the X-box version after all. Thanks for the news. Yay me. >_>

Castoth

09-20-2002, 09:31 AM

Apparently, it's also going to be released in January in Japan with the XBox Live tester kit or something. Found a link at ragol.com but lost it. >_<

gallaugher

09-20-2002, 10:18 AM

Yay. Have fun with your X box pso. Will you also be right about the release date? And when will that be?

Nidarrock

09-20-2002, 10:33 AM

Well I think I just got the answer I was looking for. Xbox version it is. Thanks Biofan. I personally don't care about when it's released, it gives me time to catch up on other games.

neko-chan

09-20-2002, 10:35 AM

Quit fanbishism!
> Everybody

Feck, after Ugly001 perma ban I thought PSOW could be a peaceful place for any console owner.

Stop wasting time in fighting about consoles and invest your effort in something more productive.

Anyone have Aria Giovanni pictures?

Kenks23

09-20-2002, 10:51 AM

On 2002-09-19 22:38, BioFan wrote:
Now who is wrong??TOld you to keep quiet back then...now they have announce it and Xbox is getting eps1&2...HA!!now who is laughing...
http://sega.jp/x/pso

good news...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[ This Message was edited by: BioFan on 2002-09-19 22:41 ]

Geeez come on. Quit the damn fanboy-ness. I don't mind the news, even though I've already seen it twice elsewhere, but with the tone your taking, it's not the best idea. On this board, there are tons of people, including me, who don't appreciate the fanboy attitude.

ABDUR101

09-20-2002, 02:15 PM

On 2002-09-20 08:35, neko-chan wrote:
Quit fanbishism!
> Everybody

Feck, after Ugly001 perma ban I thought PSOW could be a peaceful place for any console owner.

Damn right, grow up people. So what if someone else is waiting for the X-box release? Maybe they have an X-box and not a GC. Wow, what a thought huh?

Stop wasting time in fighting about consoles and invest your effort in something more productive.

Yes, such as...playing other games before the release of PSO on the new consoles =)

Anyone have Aria Giovanni pictures?

No, sorry =X

saffaya

09-20-2002, 04:15 PM

mmmh ... reading ST's site announcement page.

They say PSO is part of the Xbox Live! beta kit to be released in November.
AND, release date of the game as being 2003, January the 16th !!
(precising it is the same date as Xbox live StarterKit)

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My HD is crashed. I'm using Knoppix. whole system on a CD, even ADSL support and japanese font included.

RavenTW

09-20-2002, 04:37 PM

So they've confirmed it's ep 1 and 2. Who gives a flip? At least I'm a small bit interested now.

Kalbelgarion

09-20-2002, 05:27 PM

heh...heh...

W00t! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

*ALL HAIL YUJI NAKA, THE HOLY ONE*

Dabra

09-20-2002, 05:32 PM

eat me.

X-thirteen

09-20-2002, 05:43 PM

On 2002-09-20 14:37, RavenTW wrote:
So they've confirmed it's ep 1 and 2. Who gives a flip?

i do. and many others as well.

Denny

09-20-2002, 05:45 PM

Do you think this will be the box art?
http://www.sonicteam.com/pso_xbox.html
It looks great!

http://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titlea.jpghttp://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titleb.jpg
http://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titlec.jpghttp://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titled.jpg
http://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titlee.jpghttp://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titlef.jpg

[ This Message was edited by: Denny on 2002-09-20 15:57 ]

SoLaRiS

09-20-2002, 07:22 PM

Now who is wrong??TOld you to keep quiet back then...now they have announce it and Xbox is getting eps1&2...HA!!now who is laughing...

This brings back my old question even though that i am sure it is no is can GCN play on Xbox servers and vice versa?

Kalbelgarion

09-20-2002, 07:40 PM

No. Sadly enough, there is no crossplatform play, whatsoever.

VariantXL

09-20-2002, 07:43 PM

On 2002-09-20 15:45, Denny wrote:
Do you think this will be the box art?
http://www.sonicteam.com/pso_xbox.html
It looks great!

http://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titlea.jpghttp://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titleb.jpg
http://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titlec.jpghttp://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titled.jpg
http://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titlee.jpghttp://www.sonicteam.com/pso/x_image/titlef.jpg

[ This Message was edited by: Denny on 2002-09-20 15:57 ]

I dont think so.... maybe..... but didnt they say there would be 1 extra character class for the xbox ver which i do not see on that artwork.

Alisha

09-20-2002, 08:42 PM

normally i might care but since im moving out of my parents house on monday i wont be having BB for a while so unless m$ sucks it up and comes up with a narrowband solution i aint interested unless of course that extra chara is a humarl then i might take it for a spin offline

MoNoMaTe_MoNkEy

09-20-2002, 09:44 PM

Woohoo!! Today's been a great day!! I got a 94 (Highest grade might I add) on my Honors Algebra 2 test, came home and checked my email for the first time in 3 weeks and saw that I was accepted into the Xbox Live beta testing, now seeing that PSO will be coming with the beta http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif I just ordered it a few hours ago. The beta testers are getting at least 4 games in the beta phase for free.

Now... the only thing going through my head is what the new character is going to be.

RavenTW

09-20-2002, 09:48 PM

So you've actually been accepted, or invited? I got an email that said I was invited (I don't even have an Xbox). I think they gave an invitation to everyone they could.

Denny

09-20-2002, 09:55 PM

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20020921/02.jpg

I don't think the Xbox version is going to have an exclusive class, unless it's going to be some sort of download. I don't think the January release date would give them whole lot of time to work out a new set of characters.

MoNoMaTe_MoNkEy

09-20-2002, 09:56 PM

I was accepted. It said, "Congratulations, You're in!!" It should hopefully arrive in a few days!! Although the gay thing I noticed was when they charged TAX!! THEY CHARGED TAX ON AN ONLINE STORE!! Grr that pissed me off... ok /anger

X-thirteen

09-20-2002, 09:59 PM

On 2002-09-20 19:55, Denny wrote:
I don't think the Xbox version is going to have an exclusive class, unless it's going to be some sort of download. I don't think the January release date would give them whole lot of time to work out a new set of characters.

creating a few new player models, skinning them and all that junk cant take more than a week, two at max.

HUnewearl_Meira

09-20-2002, 10:09 PM

On 2002-09-19 22:38, BioFan wrote:
Now who is wrong??TOld you to keep quiet back then...now they have announce it and Xbox is getting eps1&2...HA!!now who is laughing...
http://sega.jp/x/pso

good news...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I really don't get why there was ever any doubt. It just seems illogical to me, that Sonic Team would release a version of the game that's not up to date... I mean heck, even the PC version, which is supposed to be a direct port of v2 has stuff added to the quick select... I mean, really. If Sonic Team sees time to add stuff, by golly, they're gonna do it.

Kalbelgarion

09-20-2002, 10:10 PM

Uhh...there is only one new character (thus far). And we know it's either the HUmarl, HUnewm, RAnewm, or RAnewearl. And, heck, Sonic Team's got four months before the game comes out. They may very well add more than one.

RavenTW

09-20-2002, 10:17 PM

I thought Newmans wouldn't be rangers????

Kalbelgarion

09-20-2002, 10:26 PM

Well...back before PSOv1 was released, Sonic Team rode it off by saying that Numans didn't like guns...and that may be true. After all, Rika and Nei used very light claw weapons, and Nei hated carrying a heavy load.

But I supposed a beefed-up Numan could handle those big bazookas that some RAngers carry around.

I'm placing my bets on the new character being a HUmarl, though.

*Wonders how many Alis and Alys imposters would pop up on the first day*

BioFan

09-21-2002, 01:25 AM

On 2002-09-20 08:51, Kenks23 wrote:
Geeez come on. Quit the damn fanboy-ness. I don't mind the news, even though I've already seen it twice elsewhere, but with the tone your taking, it's not the best idea. On this board, there are tons of people, including me, who don't appreciate the fanboy attitude.

Well I was laughed at a while ago for wishing XBox's version will be a GCN port...Although I told them to wait since we knew nothing back then, they told me to stop wishing to get GCN ver cos it will be exclusive for GCN...Hey a while back then, just being an Xbox owner was so bad, everyone laughed at us for wanting something...So I just want to post this concerning those people who laughed at me and other xbox owners for wanting a simple GCN port...now we know what Xbox version will get, I told them to stop making a fool of themselves in case they will be wrong back then...but they did not and laughed at us...so now I just saying they are wrong...it's not really a fanboyism act although it looks like it that way...Sorry...but I was so pissed off back then...I was so overjoyed when ST announced it is GCN port yesterday...happy, relieve and glad at the same time...I am an Xbox owner, but I am no way in love with that system...I am a sega fanboy, I can admit that, and I LOVE PSO!!!...

by the way, about the new chars, I dont expect XBox to get any actually...nothing on it so far...and the only news I heard is based on a french magazine, but Yuji naka has yet to confirm it and I highly doubt Xbox will get an exclusive char...

anyway now I feel so much better, the excitement has calm down...hehehe...So enjoy the game...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

saffaya

09-21-2002, 02:41 AM

With every online Xbox player having both Broadband and a Hard Disk, ST can make a new char class as a patch anytime.
So it could be available month after the release without problems.

Ness

09-21-2002, 09:10 AM

On 2002-09-19 22:55, BioFan wrote:

that is not the point...the point is some people here a while ago said that it will be nothing more than ver.2...So I am directing to those people...get whichever version you want...its your money...both are the same game...I have no problem with you getting GCN version...none of my business...just posting so those saying Xbox only getting ver.2 port will shut up...

[ This Message was edited by: BioFan on 2002-09-19 22:58 ]

And we care how? So what if I said it was version 2? At the time there was nop info what so ever on Xbox PSO so we were all left to assume. The Xbox fanboys sid it was Ep. 1 and 2; the GC fanboys said it was version 2; and the people like me said it was somewhere in the middle.

Ness

09-21-2002, 09:19 AM

On 2002-09-20 20:10, Kalbelgarion wrote:
Uhh...there is only one new character (thus far). And we know it's either the HUmarl, HUnewm, RAnewm, or RAnewearl. And, heck, Sonic Team's got four months before the game comes out. They may very well add more than one.

I doubt it. That's just a rumor. Chances are they wouldn't add just one more anyway. They'd have to add 3 to balance it out again and that would take time.

Malkavian

09-21-2002, 09:49 AM

Put new charas and make it balanced can take some time.
But if is only some chars isnit worth it having GC.

ABDUR101

09-21-2002, 10:18 AM

If it's an announcement from Sega, it's not a rumor.

And adding one character is easier than trying to balance out three more.

Overall, everyone wait and see, it'll come together.

We're all PSO players, does it matter what damn system you play it on?!

Ness

09-21-2002, 02:56 PM

On 2002-09-21 08:18, ABDUR101 wrote:
If it's an announcement from Sega, it's not a rumor.

And adding one character is easier than trying to balance out three more.

Overall, everyone wait and see, it'll come together.

We're all PSO players, does it matter what damn system you play it on?!

I have nothing against Xbox or Xbox PSO. I just hate it when fanboys make up good sh!t about their systems and bad sh!t about the others. You were right Abdur, they did say that they would add one more.

If it were from Mamak though, I'd have to say it was a rumor. Well all know that they are Xbox biases and their GC PSO review is living proof.

ABDUR101

09-21-2002, 03:10 PM

On 2002-09-21 12:56, Ness wrote:
Well all know that they are Xbox biases and their GC PSO review is living proof.

Fortunately I don't read reviews from places like Mamak, if I ever even read a review. It only makes you notice the bad parts of a game when you might not have before.

Just wait and see, everything will come out ok in the end.

merlin

09-21-2002, 03:45 PM

Well.

The Cube version and the XboX version will most certainly NOT be the same.

I've always been a Nintendo fan.......and I also do own an XboX as well as a Cube, but have you noticed how much more powerful an XboX is when it comes to graphic capabilities?

I think that it's safe to say that there will be a difference besides just one new character class and voice chat options. The XboX version SHOULD look better. I'll be shocked if it doesn't.

I'll be checking out both games for sure even if most of the people that I game with will be on Cube.

Agent_Reav

09-21-2002, 04:49 PM

Bump mapped armor perhaps? (Hopes they throw in a secret Master Chief Easter Egg) I am really looking forward to the Xbox version now that everything has been cleared up! Since Broadband and an HD are included on Xbox I believe it will be a much fuller experience. Although if the US PSO Xbox release is in June I may pick up the GC version in the meantime.

XBOX_JEDI

09-21-2002, 04:58 PM

On 2002-09-20 07:28, ABDUR101 wrote:
Looks like I'll get the X-box version after all. Thanks for the news. Yay me. >_>

looks like i'll be getting PSO after all

merlin

09-21-2002, 06:18 PM

That's one thing that I never thought of. Microsoft very well COULD release new characters and even map amends and monsters, items, weapons, rares...hell, anything pretty much on the fly.

This could be better than we anticipated......although the Cube version is STILL going to be SO sweet.

Anybody hear for definite whether XboX is gonna be server-side save or not?

LadyKei

09-21-2002, 06:43 PM

Anybody hear for definite whether XboX is gonna be server-side save or not?

I hope it will be server-side saving...Blizzard did that with Diablo II, and a lot of other, older online games like Meridian 59 did it, as well...it's a lot harder to get the server to save incorrect information about your character, I've noticed, that it is to get your own hardware to do so. At least, I've only ever heard of one or two people doing it successfully. Someone'll probably correct me on that, though, I'm sure.

Point is, though, it'll probably reduce the number of cheaters, as most are too lazy to bother trying to hack the server to change their info. Well, too lazy, or possessing too little knowledge of how to do it. Or both.

Agent_Reav

09-21-2002, 06:49 PM

Server side saving would make the game perfect... But I don't know if they'll do that. Traditionally, online console games have an offline option if you wanna get a quick fix without goin online. I say they should follow Blizzard's example; If you want to bring your offline character online you go on "Open Battle.net"... Otherwise your char is stored online on Blizzard's servers UNHACKABLE!

LadyKei

09-21-2002, 07:52 PM

Though, and I have no idea how easy this is on a console, but with Diablo II and all, I know a lot of 'trainers' would run in the background, and modify the game's code while it sat in RAM, and when you popped back, hey, lookit that, you were suddenly god. Nothing on the savefile was changed, and in fact actually saved it 'legit', as the only thing that was changed is your game telling itself that that zombie just gave your character 10,000 xp, and when you saved it to the server, you would just have 10,000 more xp than you did before, just as if you had gotten it legit...

Anyway, this is rambling now, but I'm wondering if anyone has any idea about whether that type of hacking would still circumvent the server-side saving? It would still rock to have it, as that fact alone would deter cheaters, and those who do cheat would be hard pressed to do it successfully.

VariantXL

09-21-2002, 08:04 PM

that does open up the possiblity for some resonably talented hacker to hack the servers which characters are stored on and simply wipe them clean.

LadyKei

09-21-2002, 08:17 PM

Erm...isn't there already a way people can do that, in essence? I've heard of things that can crash entire servers, wiping all the chars on them, and such like that, already...maybe just overexaggerated rumours, though.

That, and with the sheer volume of people playign (and paying for) PSO, I'm sure they'd have a regular backup somewhere if they did start server-side saving, and likely some nasty countermeasures againt any hackers.

MoNoMaTe_MoNkEy

09-21-2002, 09:43 PM

On 2002-09-21 18:04, VariantXL wrote:
that does open up the possiblity for some resonably talented hacker to hack the servers which characters are stored on and simply wipe them clean.

That won't happen. Microsoft already stated that the gaming servers would be encoded with top-quality military-grade encryption. It would be impossible to hack into the servers without somehow cracking the code, which won't happen. I wouldn't mind server-side saving, but I'd rather have it on my Xbox, just in case a blackout occurs or something unexpected -_-;;;

WEBSTER

09-23-2002, 07:00 AM

On 2002-09-21 07:19, Ness wrote:
They'd have to add 3 to balance it out again and that would take time.

it would take no time, cause all they have to do is create poly characters and they have the early designs to work from, the actions and moves ( animation) of the characters come from the items found, its not like a fighting game (lets say) where each character would have his or her own set moves, so all they really need to do is generate a kool character class.... but they would need to make 4 to balance it out, there are 4 characters now to each class..... but who knows st is one of the laziest developers out there.

and server side save'in.... no thank ya, i want to be able to swap my items off line in split screen mode.

Danderdag

09-23-2002, 08:18 AM

Actually no, you can't do stuff like that with serverside saves. The way online games work where the client really has very little information such as diablo 2 or an MMORPG like everquest, is that the server does EVERYTHING, and the client is really just showing the player whats going on, and offering a few inputs like 'kill' and whatnot.
In diablo 2 you can't just run a trainer and do 10,000 damage, because the server isn't stupid enough to believe that.
In diablo 1, yes you could, but that was because all it did was matchmaking services. Connection between the players and battlenet has nothing to do with it. Realms in d2 everything is handled through battle.net including playing the game.

Nidarrock

09-23-2002, 11:44 AM

Here is my two cents about the possibility of extra characters.

The two longest parts of creating new characters would be building the 3D models and then balancing the stats. Skinning wouldn't be too hard and considering all the characters basicaly run, walk, slash, stand, stab, ect, the same way, animation is not an issue. If they have existing models of some of the omitted chars, then forget about the time to model, of course tweaking them can take time too.

Also this was the same question I had back when ST was announcing new classes for the GC. Why just one. There are three classes. Remember that the GC version had annouced two new chars at first(at least that's what I remember).

On a side note I went to school for 3D/2D animation.

saffaya

09-23-2002, 04:04 PM

That won't happen. Microsoft already stated that the gaming servers would be encoded with top-quality military-grade encryption. It would be impossible to hack into the servers without somehow cracking the code, which won't happen.

.. just hope that Micro$oft doesn't use their own products for their servers (Windows .. how secure, yeah right .. not to mention stable..)

saffaya

09-23-2002, 04:14 PM

just thought of something ..

As Xbox is broadband only, and as you don't pay broadband by the minute (ISDN excepted), it could really make sense for PSO to have server-side saves.
You just have to make it possible to play split-screen multiplayer online, and the Xbox sure has the bandwith needed for that.

Having the Xbox using your Broadband access each time you play is no big deal. Even if you share it with your computer busy downloading files, you won't notice much difference thanks to the low footprint of PSO's network traffic.

[ This Message was edited by: saffaya on 2002-09-23 14:15 ]

Ness

09-23-2002, 07:30 PM

Interesting, I'm having a hard time trying to find out what that had to do with anything. Gamecbe has BBA support too.

Danderdag

09-24-2002, 02:54 AM

broadband wont really affect serverside saves, it just means it slows down when modem players are there because you've got to transmit alot of data to the server whenever it saves or loads.

saffaya

09-24-2002, 05:44 AM

Interesting, I'm having a hard time trying to find out what that had to do with anything. Gamecbe has BBA support too.

With a modem, if you have to be online to be able to save, you hog the home phone line everytime you play, and you pay for it by the minute.
With BBA, wether you're online or not is of little consequence for your Broadband access.(non exclusive use, and low footprint)

So, making Xbox PSO a server-side saved game would only annoy people who cannot get online with their Xbox at all.

Any clearer now ?

Ness

09-24-2002, 06:06 AM

Yes. I was confused about the whole pay by the minute thing, but then I realized you're from France. In America internet access is a flat rate. When you choose the quit game option it saves your game.

Danderdag

09-24-2002, 06:37 AM

yeah in the US all ISPs are flat rate, broadband or modem alike. Pay by the minute went out of style with AOL version 2.0 I believe.
Yeah internet options are far less appealing in other parts of the world.

_xX_Frosty_Xx_

09-27-2002, 07:41 AM

I wish X-Box hadn't of went straight broadband....

rena-ko

09-27-2002, 08:22 AM

even narrowband dialup-modems are flatrate in US? hm, i have to move then...

about the additional character, i'd bet on being able to play red ring rico's class.

about graphics...
when you compare actual multiplatformgames like turok it might be that ST will refreshen the textures and add more effects or polygones or whatever but i doubt it because compare GCNpso's episode 1 with DCpso - there are no real improvements afaik, so: time will tell