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Barubary6
09-22-2002, 03:56 AM
To Lolita: My post has significant value beyond being a "welcome back" post. If you want to censor it for some reason, make it something besides the highly sarcastic topic name I put ("Hello Everyone!").

I'm sure you all love me so much. Anyway, I have some news.

1. I am writing server software currently for the game. It would let you make your own PSO server that you and your friends could play on. It also is a hell of a lot more secure than the server made by those brilliant security specialists at Sonic Team. I suppose that if you tried *really* hard, you could use my server to help you cheat (you'd have to hack my program), but what's the point when you've got Xploder?

2. Gamecube PSO has a lot of hidden features that Sonic Team will release over time. For example, there are modes in which the lobby changes, sort of like how there was a Christmas tree on Pioneer 2. (Hopefully they updated the big 21.)

3. There are 2 more extended character models. There were 5 in version 2, Famitsu Editor, Rico, Sonic, Knuckles, Tails (in numerical order, of course). Now there are 2 more, 2 characters that I don't recognize.

4. I love how Sonic Team put me into Version 3. Their name for that De-Rol-Le clone in the Xbox video (barubarei) is 1 vowel off from the Capcom original (barubaroi). Maybe if Sonic Team was trying to pronounce my name as they saw it anglicized (thanks to a crappy job by Capcom's translators), they could come up with that.

5. Gamecube PSO is already destroyed. Funny how I had nothing to do with it this time - I don't even have the damn game http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

6. I like this forum's Melissa picture that is my avatar. Where'd you find a picture that matched the hair color, skin color, class, and face type of my well-known FOmarl? (answered already by Lolita; it's the cover of the Japanese v2 guidebook. he/she's right, because I remember that book now - my friend has it.)

7. Don't ask how I know #2 and #3. Assume what you want, but it's probably wrong.

8. Some things sure don't change. How long has that "unable to update forum post count" bug been around? 18 months?

9. My original profile said age 20 and dislikes = PSO World. Some admin here changed it.

If you don't believe it's me, ask me a technical PSO question here.

-- Barubary

LollipopLolita
09-22-2002, 04:02 AM
granted, I would have easily complied and understood, but then next time please take the time to approach me and pm instead of posting doubles.

thanks and have a good day. btw I am a she

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Barubary6
09-22-2002, 04:22 AM
sorry

Alisha
09-22-2002, 04:42 AM
7. Don't ask how I know #2 and #3. Assume what you want, but it's probably wrong.

http://www.zdnet.co.jp/gamespot/tgs/tgs2002/news/02/19.html ill give you 3 tho

Spy
09-22-2002, 04:42 AM
On 2002-09-22 01:56, Barubary6 wrote:
To Lolita: My post has significant value beyond being a "welcome back" post. If you want to censor it for some reason, make it something besides the highly sarcastic topic name I put ("Hello Everyone!").

I'm sure you all love me so much. Anyway, I have some news.

1. I am writing server software currently for the game. It would let you make your own PSO server that you and your friends could play on. It also is a hell of a lot more secure than the server made by those brilliant security specialists at Sonic Team. I suppose that if you tried *really* hard, you could use my server to help you cheat (you'd have to hack my program), but what's the point when you've got Xploder?

2. Gamecube PSO has a lot of hidden features that Sonic Team will release over time. For example, there are modes in which the lobby changes, sort of like how there was a Christmas tree on Pioneer 2. (Hopefully they updated the big 21.)

3. There are 2 more extended character models. There were 5 in version 2, Famitsu Editor, Rico, Sonic, Knuckles, Tails (in numerical order, of course). Now there are 2 more, 2 characters that I don't recognize.

4. I love how Sonic Team put me into Version 3. Their name for that De-Rol-Le clone in the Xbox video (barubarei) is 1 vowel off from the Capcom original (barubaroi). Maybe if Sonic Team was trying to pronounce my name as they saw it anglicized (thanks to a crappy job by Capcom's translators), they could come up with that.

5. Gamecube PSO is already destroyed. Funny how I had nothing to do with it this time - I don't even have the damn game http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

6. I like this forum's Melissa picture that is my avatar. Where'd you find a picture that matched the hair color, skin color, class, and face type of my well-known FOmarl? (answered already by Lolita; it's the cover of the Japanese v2 guidebook. he/she's right, because I remember that book now - my friend has it.)

7. Don't ask how I know #2 and #3. Assume what you want, but it's probably wrong.

8. Some things sure don't change. How long has that "unable to update forum post count" bug been around? 18 months?

9. My original profile said age 20 and dislikes = PSO World. Some admin here changed it.

If you don't believe it's me, ask me a technical PSO question here.

-- Barubary




Mmm... I feel like I'm cleaning out a horse stall.

SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko
09-22-2002, 04:43 AM
What's the TTL that GC PSO uses? I hope it isn't 30 like on Dreamcast =>_<=

Barubary7
09-22-2002, 05:38 AM
This is sad. In the future when you try to impersonate me next, please do a better job. I can't have some amateur tarnishing my good name now, can I?

Barubary6
09-22-2002, 05:40 AM
I don't know such low-level networking things as "TTL". I do know this game extremely well though.

-- Barubary

Barubary7
09-22-2002, 05:56 AM
On 2002-09-22 03:40, Barubary6 wrote:
I don't know such low-level networking things as "TTL". I do know this game extremely well though.

-- Barubary



TTL, which stands for time-to-live, is a value in each IP packet's header. Any decent 'hacker' would know this. You're slowing down.

Kasera
09-22-2002, 06:01 AM
Ruh-oh, time for the Official PSOW My Dick Is Bigger Than Your's h4x0r contest!

Rock core.

Barubary7
09-22-2002, 06:05 AM
On 2002-09-22 04:01, Kasera wrote:
Ruh-oh, time for the Official PSOW My Dick Is Bigger Than Your's h4x0r contest!

Rock core.



I can see that the average intelligence of the model PSO-World poster has suprisingly declined as if that were possible.

D7Peacemaker is Rock core though.

Spy
09-22-2002, 06:24 AM
Interesting... two Barus...

If I had to put money on the table, I'd have to say 7 is the legit one, and not because of his title, but because of the website he has listed. After being banned multiple times I'm sure Barubary would have figured out by now that directly linking to PSO cheats = ban, so 7 would have learned this lesson, and six, being the immatation, didn't even think about it.

Hehehe. "Why is 6 afraid of 7? Because 7 ate 9!"

LollipopLolita
09-22-2002, 06:58 AM
*laughs at kasera's comment* you funny girl.

okay whoever the real barubary is, I don't really care, I just that you two argue in a mature fashion and not flame, or both of you will be warned as soon as the flaming and flamebaiting starts.

Ness
09-22-2002, 09:31 AM
Look, I don't know which Barubary is the real one but I doubt that you can make your own PSOW server. I can believe some of the stuff you said but in reality, you seem to be full of crap and we don't even know who the hell you are.

Note: Will the real Barubary please stand up.

Dabra
09-22-2002, 09:48 AM
I love this...baru's duking it out.

[EDIT]

Where's Mike Man when you need him?

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Castoth
09-22-2002, 10:07 AM
Oddly enough, I hate what Baru and Co. helped do to PSO v2 but actually like his posts. They are rather informative and thought-out, just that the rep makes most people go into massive flaming mode and attack him for whatever.

As for the first sentence, he didn't even develop the really nasty codes like NOLing and such so it's also kind of funny how he gets the most hate. Yes, I didn't like how he was one of the first starting to develop codes but there are much worse hackers out there to lash out against.

X-thirteen
09-22-2002, 12:47 PM
ok im really confused.. will the real baruary please stand up?

Ness
09-22-2002, 12:58 PM
Th reality is that all hacker suck. Why would you even want to cheat on an online game? I mean, is it reall ythat hard to level up and get items? Why the hell would you want to NOL someone in the first place?

Barubary7
09-22-2002, 01:25 PM
On 2002-09-22 10:58, Ness wrote:
Th reality is that all hacker suck.


http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



Why would you even want to cheat on an online game?


As a code slasher, I'm not really cheating. I'm creating art. Of course, it's lost on most people here.


I mean, is it reall ythat hard to level up and get items?


That's not all the codes I've written do. I like finding and unlocking everything those pencil-necked geeks at ST hide away.


Why the hell would you want to NOL someone in the first place?


Not my coding there. Isn't it nice to credit all the evils of the world to me though?

Kenks23
09-22-2002, 01:51 PM
I'm a Computer Sciences major and I was wondering how you'd go about code-slashing / hacking. I can't exactly get an idea of where one would begin to do that.

Barubary6
09-22-2002, 02:08 PM
On 2002-09-22 11:51, Kenks23 wrote:
I'm a Computer Sciences major and I was wondering how you'd go about code-slashing / hacking. I can't exactly get an idea of where one would begin to do that.


The first thing is to learn assembly language. In order to make cheat codes for games that protect their game data like PSO, you have to break the game at the assembly language level. You have to become a reverse engineer, like a software cracker.

The first game I ever reverse engineered was Final Fantasy 5. And many of you know how that turned out...

-- Barubary

SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko
09-22-2002, 02:23 PM
Barubary trivia time!! =^.^=

What's the Authorization server address for DC PSO? (Know the one for GC PSO? =?_?=)

What did you say to TSFO-SnAPPLE when you posed as "The Wall" ?

What did you verbally observe when you cloned Lady Mayhem's character (other than items), and which outfit did you switch to for a request?

Spy
09-22-2002, 02:28 PM
On 2002-09-22 11:51, Kenks23 wrote:
I'm a Computer Sciences major and I was wondering how you'd go about code-slashing / hacking. I can't exactly get an idea of where one would begin to do that.



Why not just write your own code instead of manipulating someone elses?

Saladwood
09-22-2002, 03:07 PM
Since this topic is now predominately about cheating...

... OFF TO CHEATERS IT GOES!

Dellimia
09-22-2002, 06:13 PM
On 2002-09-22 12:23, SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko wrote:


What did you verbally observe when you cloned Lady Mayhem's character (other than items), and which outfit did you switch to for a request?

Offtopic but..

Interesting, I use to be friends with someone with a character by that name. HUnewearl if I am not mistaken. Some of my funniest times in PSO was spent with this person.

Ontopic

Th reality is that all hacker suck.


Bullshit. Not ALL hackers suck. I had met an individual like this guy here in PSO along time ago. He somehow..."hacked" MY profile and put some lock code on my Section ID Serial number so that NO OTHER kinds of hacking would effect me ever. He did this to all of his friends. Ck, NOL, PK, FSOD, all were ineffectual, only BSOD was a real worry, and black wall aka DC resetting. The "lock" he had on us, were diminished when Sega banned him from the game permenantly. These kinds of hackers are good ones, and to say they all suck is just dirty.

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PlatinumGame
09-22-2002, 08:28 PM
Everyone who just used the word hacker is a moron. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

I'm sure that neither of the 2 is the real Barubary. For one, Bar already has a username which is Barubary so why would he make another one. Second, these people just seem like fakes. Bar7 is more convincing than 6 but still doesn't cut it.

rbf2000
09-22-2002, 08:56 PM
On 2002-09-22 18:28, PlatinumGame wrote:
Everyone who just used the word hacker is a moron. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

I'm sure that neither of the 2 is the real Barubary. For one, Bar already has a username which is Barubary so why would he make another one. Second, these people just seem like fakes. Bar7 is more convincing than 6 but still doesn't cut it.


Barubary has been banned several times. Barubary6 is a lot more real than Barubay7 is, I can tell you that much.

PlatinumGame
09-22-2002, 10:30 PM
Didn't know. You would think Bar would post this at CMG before he would here...

Spy
09-22-2002, 11:33 PM
On 2002-09-22 18:56, rbf2000 wrote:

Barubary6 is a lot more real than Barubay7 is, I can tell you that much.



Interesting. 7 still sounded better though.

Wewt
09-23-2002, 06:13 AM
On 2002-09-22 16:13, Dellimia wrote:
Bullshit. Not ALL hackers suck. I had met an individual like this guy here in PSO along time ago. He somehow..."hacked" MY profile and put some lock code on my Section ID Serial number so that NO OTHER kinds of hacking would effect me ever. He did this to all of his friends. Ck, NOL, PK, FSOD, all were ineffectual, only BSOD was a real worry, and black wall aka DC resetting. The "lock" he had on us, were diminished when Sega banned him from the game permenantly. These kinds of hackers are good ones, and to say they all suck is just dirty.



Oh man, that was a good read. It really made me laugh. I love reading bullshit.

Dellimia
09-23-2002, 09:13 AM
And I enjoy reading yours. So full of ignorance j/k

Serisously

Friend, I did not post "bullshit". There really was people like him in PSO. Hacking the server, as well as a player in ways which you can not pathom, is possible(but for my long gone friend Jason, it was quite hard to pull off). So I guess this WHOLE thread is bullshit to you eh? Sure whatever.

Spy
09-23-2002, 10:46 AM
Uh oh WWWWWWWWW! Do you want me to hack this messageboard so that nobody can flame you like that?

X'D

Wewt
09-23-2002, 11:07 AM
1 - Don't call me friend.

2 - Yes you did post bullshit.

3 - You either think we're idiots for believing that story, or you're an idiot for believing what your friend told you.

4 - This thread isn't bullshit, it was quite interesting to read, especially your post. That was the funny part.

Vic_Viper
09-23-2002, 03:42 PM
Doesn't the PSO server employ encryption technology for authentication/login (comunication to auth01 server)? Breaking encryption keys are a crime and can lead one to the jail.If he even get sucess in making a clone of Sonic Team's server engine, the auth code might get him in the jail ...
Funny tho ....

PlatinumGame
09-23-2002, 03:46 PM
ROFLMAOFARO@@!
Dellimia I feel sorry for you that you could even think something like that is even possible....

Another thing, NO ONE HACKS DAMMNITZ

KodiaX987
09-23-2002, 04:45 PM
To most people who participated in this unbelievably ugly and pointless thread, I say:

http://wind.prohosting.com/kdx987/ys.txt

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Wewt
09-23-2002, 05:16 PM
0MGZ STUF!! DIS THR34D PWNZ!!!!!111

Barubary6
09-24-2002, 01:16 AM
On 2002-09-23 13:42, Vic_Viper wrote:
Doesn't the PSO server employ encryption technology for authentication/login (comunication to auth01 server)? Breaking encryption keys are a crime and can lead one to the jail.If he even get sucess in making a clone of Sonic Team's server engine, the auth code might get him in the jail ...
Funny tho ....


1. Breaking encryption schemes is only illegal when it is used to break copy protection systems. The protocol encryption is a security system, not a system designed to prevent copying. It sure didn't prevent that one group that released the DC warez PSO from copying it.

2. People can now log onto my lobby and walk around. I'm working on chat messages now.

-- Barubary

flyrobinfly
09-24-2002, 07:00 PM
I've always wondered how you deciphered the game's protocol. I sniffed the connection sequence a few times, but after the first couple of TCP packets the game switched to a different server and it was nothing but gobbledygook from that point forward. Did you have to actually reverse your way through the networking code, or are you clever enough to figure this sort of thing out by simply examining the data on the line?

As painful as it was to watch DC PSO collapse thanks to your work, the server sounds like it could be a real gift to the community (particularly if you decide to open-source it, as you had mentioned at one point). The problem with games that use centralized servers is that they can only live as long as their manufacturer supports them - Projects like these give the games eternal life, so to speak.

Of course, it's all well and good so long as you ignore the fact that this totally undercuts the developers' PTP revenue stream >_>

Barubary6
09-25-2002, 05:26 AM
On 2002-09-24 17:00, flyrobinfly wrote:
I've always wondered how you deciphered the game's protocol. I sniffed the connection sequence a few times, but after the first couple of TCP packets the game switched to a different server and it was nothing but gobbledygook from that point forward. Did you have to actually reverse your way through the networking code, or are you clever enough to figure this sort of thing out by simply examining the data on the line?


I reversed the game's networking code. The algorithm's way too complicated to reverse by looking.

On the GameCube, my Japanese friend managed to generate a sizable chunk of encryption XOR data in a special case. We used this to ask the game to CRC32 2 bytes at a time, exploiting the anti-cheat mechanism they added to Version 2, RcvProgramPatch. RcvProgramPatch asks the client to CRC32 a chunk of its memory and send that CRC32 to the server.

The CRC32 is unique for all 65536 combinations of 2 bytes, so from a list of CRC32s of 2 bytes of memory, I was able to reconstruct the EXE file that PSO was running. From that, it was simply a matter of putting my disassembler into Macintrash mode for me to break the entire algorithm.

I did all this without personal access to a Gamecube.


As painful as it was to watch DC PSO collapse thanks to your work, the server sounds like it could be a real gift to the community (particularly if you decide to open-source it, as you had mentioned at one point).


Would you really *want* the protocol encryption algorithm public? It's rather trivial to cheat the Gamecube version if you know the protocol.

-- Barubary

Spy
09-25-2002, 11:29 AM
On 2002-09-25 03:26, Barubary6 wrote:

[blah blah blah]

I did all this without personal access to a Gamecube.



X'D

"I bring fire. Fear me."



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Vic_Viper
09-25-2002, 12:54 PM
On 2002-09-23 23:16, Barubary6 wrote:

1. Breaking encryption schemes is only illegal when it is used to break copy protection systems. The protocol encryption is a security system, not a system designed to prevent copying. It sure didn't prevent that one group that released the DC warez PSO from copying it.


So you say breaking encryption security systems are not illegal ? Then think of credit cards, electronic money tranfers, exchange of secured data (this is the case, since the serial numbers are property of the people who bought the game), etc ... I think a good lawyer can get a argument to make things hard for you if they have interest to... I'm sure they(ST) are eager to get a reason to sue you ...


2. People can now log onto my lobby and walk around. I'm working on chat messages now.

-- Barubary


Good work ... It will be fun hosting a PSO game on my PC... But again, you said you had to break into the algorithm and that might make the game wide open to cheating ... That's a bad thing, unless you make your software safe ... Even with legal issues, having "your server" won't be any bad on my opinion ...

(Maybe some people hate me for some comments I made, but I just happen to say what I think)

LadyKei
09-25-2002, 04:04 PM
On 2002-09-25 10:54, Vic_Viper wrote:


2. People can now log onto my lobby and walk around. I'm working on chat messages now.

-- Barubary


Good work ... It will be fun hosting a PSO game on my PC... But again, you said you had to break into the algorithm and that might make the game wide open to cheating ... That's a bad thing, unless you make your software safe ... Even with legal issues, having "your server" won't be any bad on my opinion ...

(Maybe some people hate me for some comments I made, but I just happen to say what I think)



Personally, I think it'd be cool to have private servers here and there...sure, it'd severely limit who you play with, but then, you could be sure that you don't have any cheating bastards in your games.

SuperSubZero
09-25-2002, 07:35 PM
Private servers are the "Holy Grail" of PSO and of alot of games. The ability to bypass the pay-for-play setup would be awesome.

Normally, I'd oppose something like this. But Sega has shown me that they truly are interested only in my money, and not specifically in my gaming experience. They showed me when they were so slow in giving the non-JP audience new quests. They showed me when they proved incapable of stopping hacking on V1. Then they showed me again when they couldn't stop it in V2. They showed me how putting a character's items in "limbo" ripe for losing thanks to crashes is SO effective in ruining the gaming experience. They showed me a PC version that has 640x480 as it's maximum resolution and costs more than the consoles and STILL has no private server function.

Somewhere on the priority list they made the mistake of putting "collect online fees" at the top and "enrich user's online experience" to the bottom.

Agent_Reav
09-25-2002, 09:35 PM
On 2002-09-25 17:35, SuperSubZero wrote:
Private servers are the "Holy Grail" of PSO and of alot of games. The ability to bypass the pay-for-play setup would be awesome.

Normally, I'd oppose something like this. But Sega has shown me that they truly are interested only in my money, and not specifically in my gaming experience. They showed me when they were so slow in giving the non-JP audience new quests. They showed me when they proved incapable of stopping hacking on V1. Then they showed me again when they couldn't stop it in V2. They showed me how putting a character's items in "limbo" ripe for losing thanks to crashes is SO effective in ruining the gaming experience. They showed me a PC version that has 640x480 as it's maximum resolution and costs more than the consoles and STILL has no private server function.

Somewhere on the priority list they made the mistake of putting "collect online fees" at the top and "enrich user's online experience" to the bottom.





Amen to that...

Wewt
09-26-2002, 06:52 AM
On 2002-09-25 17:35, SuperSubZero wrote:
Private servers are the "Holy Grail" of PSO and of alot of games. The ability to bypass the pay-for-play setup would be awesome.

Normally, I'd oppose something like this. But Sega has shown me that they truly are interested only in my money, and not specifically in my gaming experience. They showed me when they were so slow in giving the non-JP audience new quests. They showed me when they proved incapable of stopping hacking on V1. Then they showed me again when they couldn't stop it in V2. They showed me how putting a character's items in "limbo" ripe for losing thanks to crashes is SO effective in ruining the gaming experience. They showed me a PC version that has 640x480 as it's maximum resolution and costs more than the consoles and STILL has no private server function.

Somewhere on the priority list they made the mistake of putting "collect online fees" at the top and "enrich user's online experience" to the bottom.


Well said. One thing however, we'll still buy any updated versions of the game...

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rabite.gif <--- 1337
I'm glad there are Secret of Mana fans here http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Gradius
09-26-2002, 11:09 AM
On 2002-09-25 17:35, SuperSubZero wrote:
Private servers are the "Holy Grail" of PSO and of alot of games. The ability to bypass the pay-for-play setup would be awesome.

Normally, I'd oppose something like this. But Sega has shown me that they truly are interested only in my money, and not specifically in my gaming experience. They showed me when they were so slow in giving the non-JP audience new quests. They showed me when they proved incapable of stopping hacking on V1. Then they showed me again when they couldn't stop it in V2. They showed me how putting a character's items in "limbo" ripe for losing thanks to crashes is SO effective in ruining the gaming experience. They showed me a PC version that has 640x480 as it's maximum resolution and costs more than the consoles and STILL has no private server function.

Somewhere on the priority list they made the mistake of putting "collect online fees" at the top and "enrich user's online experience" to the bottom.


Man, I got so pumped when I read that...!

StelardActek
09-30-2002, 12:19 AM
I won't repeat the big rant, but I must say I thoroughly agree.
Barbury, please keep up the good work on this server. What versions do you plant to have it work with eventually? If there's anything to I can do to contribute to a DCv2/PC version, just let me know.
Keep in mind, though, I'm just a mediocre Delphi coder, and no hacker by any means.

TedEdFred
09-30-2002, 04:01 AM
A dreamcast v2 one would be cool. I'd like to see that.

Wewt
09-30-2002, 06:42 AM
Wait, wait, WAIT... you people actually want Barubary(the person you claimed to hate so much) to help you? This is... astonishing...

Daniel_the_HUmar
09-30-2002, 03:11 PM
um......i wasent readin nething cause this topic is to freaking long...what we talking about again? '''>_>

Wewt
09-30-2002, 04:10 PM
If you want to know what is going on in this thread, read it. If you want me to explain to you what is going on, I'll copy and paste each and every post for you. Either way, you're going to have to read it. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

THEMASTER_G1
10-01-2002, 02:07 PM
Too much reading heh.

StelardActek
10-02-2002, 11:57 PM
On 2002-09-30 04:42, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:
Wait, wait, WAIT... you people actually want Barubary(the person you claimed to hate so much) to help you? This is... astonishing...



I don't recall ever saying 'I hate Barubary'...

SuperSubZero
10-03-2002, 03:55 AM
On 2002-09-30 04:42, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:
Wait, wait, WAIT... you people actually want Barubary(the person you claimed to hate so much) to help you? This is... astonishing...

There was a time when people cursed him, then applauded him and loved him, then made animated GIF's depicting his death. Playing "fair weather fan" is apparently completely normal behavior here, so why fight it?

Wewt
10-03-2002, 08:21 AM
On 2002-10-03 01:55, SuperSubZero wrote:
There was a time when people cursed him, then applauded him and loved him, then made animated GIF's depicting his death. Playing "fair weather fan" is apparently completely normal behavior here, so why fight it?


It's just fun to see people with the attitude that's basically saying "Cheaters suck", then most of them say they want his help.

KodiaX987
10-03-2002, 09:00 AM
"MikeMan.

Burning the Barubary.

Eating Barubary.

Kicking Barubary

Go MikeMan! Save the day.

Burn the motherfucker. Burn him to the bones!"

You guys really need to visit burnthechildren.com one day! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Wewt
10-03-2002, 09:15 AM
That's a pretty cool site, I like this poem in particular:

Ants
Look at them,=fools
They slave away For nothing
for the common good,
for each other
for the dilusional happiness that occurs
when they think that they Make a difference
They are fools
What they do goes unnoticed
by even each other
I hate these stupid ants
lets step on them
And crush THEM
AND burn THEM
down Into the ground

They are all alike
they are all together
minds
bodys
thoughts
together
no independance
no free will
no though process

Will you be remembered when youre gone?
Or will you be forgotten like all the others?
"Of course I won't
Im special
Im one of a kind
Im unique"
Keep telling yourself that
keep tellin yourself that
And you'l believe it-
Someday you'll realize
you've wasted everything
for these Worker ants
to be stepped on
and Forgotten


Jeremy Bush>

SilencePSO
10-03-2002, 06:54 PM
Since when did we consider Barubary a reliable news source? Just ignore it and it will go away.

StelardActek
10-07-2002, 10:31 PM
On 2002-10-03 16:54, SilencePSO wrote:
Since when did we consider Barubary a reliable news source? Just ignore it and it will go away.


I'm probably not known enough around here to be a reliable news source, either, but I've seen the server in action.

LostHero
10-14-2002, 10:14 PM
Hey Baru, remember me losthero? prolly not, but ohwell I helped test about 4 of your codes... good times hehe.

I have a question that could tell the true baru from the false if they are different people in the first place.

What was the 'colorful' word you used to use over and over again... plz include spaces http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Mystil
10-15-2002, 06:58 PM
On 2002-09-23 09:07, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:
1 - Don't call me friend.

2 - Yes you did post bullshit.

3 - You either think we're idiots for believing that story, or you're an idiot for believing what your friend told you.

4 - This thread isn't bullshit, it was quite interesting to read, especially your post. That was the funny part.




Thought you scared me off? Yes, you can guess who this is. I finally got my username back, after using that suckie Dellimia name. Anyway, I'll say it again. I was not posting BS. It really happened. However, since I can't ever give you proof, then I suppose it does not matter. And I know for a fact it worked, cause I had someone try to CK me..and it was ineffectual..

Blah.



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CoVaH
10-19-2002, 02:00 AM
Barubary is a famous guy here I see. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

SuperSubZero
10-19-2002, 04:34 AM
I am concerned by the lack of any info on this recently.

Wewt
10-19-2002, 04:22 PM
On 2002-10-15 16:58, Silhouette wrote:
Thought you scared me off? Yes, you can guess who this is. I finally got my username back, after using that suckie Dellimia name. Anyway, I'll say it again. I was not posting BS. It really happened. However, since I can't ever give you proof, then I suppose it does not matter. And I know for a fact it worked, cause I had someone try to CK me..and it was ineffectual..

Blah.


Okay then. Why don't you give me an explanation of how this person "tried" to CK you? I've heard a lot of crap about people trying CK, NOL or whatever on them. It's all been bullshit so far, so if somebody tried to CK you, you'd know exactly what they did. Mind telling us? Preferably in private message, because it might get modded.

I also stick by my stance that what you posted was bullshit. That stuff doesn't happen.

Arukas
10-20-2002, 03:40 AM
I'm just curious as to why people (not just at these message boards) like to blame Barubary for PSO v1 and v2 current state. Now, is Barubary really the person to blame for PK, NOL, and lobby 'FSOD'? If you answered yes to that question, then you can proudly call yourself a nescient person.

From the best of my knowledge, Barubary has never made a code for PK, NOL, or lobby 'FSOD', and if he did (which I highly doubt) then he most certainly did not release it to the general public.

So, who is to blame then? Well, who do you think? Of course, none other than Sonic Team. The simple fact that PK and NOL were possible even with a code is enough to show who is to blame, but I doubt any of you *really* care. I'd be surprised if many of you read this far too.

Wewt
10-20-2002, 11:50 AM
Sonic Team were part of the blame. Barubary provided codes to the public. The public modified it so that they could do all of the harmful stuff, so he's part of the blame. You probably won't read this far though. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

RellikTakahashi
10-20-2002, 07:41 PM
Tsk...codes. Only novices (newbies) need them.

Mystil
10-21-2002, 08:08 AM
On 2002-10-19 14:22, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:

Okay then. Why don't you give me an explanation of how this person "tried" to CK you? I've heard a lot of crap about people trying CK, NOL or whatever on them. It's all been bullshit so far, so if somebody tried to CK you, you'd know exactly what they did. Mind telling us? Preferably in private message, because it might get modded.

I also stick by my stance that what you posted was bullshit. That stuff doesn't happen.



Eh. Buddy, you really need to get over it. Didn't I just state in my post that I can't prove it. So why the fuck are you still on about it?

Yeah! You think my post was bullshit, yippy! Really no one else commented on my post but you, so who really gives a shit? Get off it.

Wewt
10-21-2002, 08:39 AM
I didn't ask for proof, as you cannot give it. I asked you how he or she tried to CK you.

RuneLateralus
10-21-2002, 02:36 PM
WWWWWWWWWWWW and Silhouette: Stop it right now! Next flame out of either will lock this topic up! I do not want to lock this, but you guys shouldn't bring these out to the public.

Now lets all relax and settle down.



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Wewt
10-21-2002, 02:54 PM
I never flamed http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

SuperSubZero
10-21-2002, 09:18 PM
On 2002-10-20 01:40, Arukas wrote:
I'm just curious as to why people (not just at these message boards) like to blame Barubary for PSO v1 and v2 current state.

I don't. To point every finger at one person and say "he did it he did it" is to give him a Hitler-esque identity, that he somehow creates or leads chaos. Whether he wants that distinction or not, I would not give it to him.

His actions are more like a hooligan. A bunch of people together being calm, and then *someone* throws a rock and hits a cop, and then the whole place explodes. This person isn't a leader, just an instigator. THAT is the level I would hold him at. He doesn't create or lead chaos, he just gives an excuse for people to do it. Stealth codes and all.

BrokenHope
10-22-2002, 07:19 AM
Personally i think barubary did some good in a way, he got a countless number of people perm banned on jp v2 first with his ever changing enable, then with his stealth codes.

Lman90245
10-23-2002, 04:59 PM
The gameshark is comming out soon after or just before the release date of Phantasy Star Online: Episode 1 & 2 for the Gamecube... as many of you have probibly found out the hackers practically RUINED the experiance of online play for the Dreamcast lets hope that the gamecube version has some kind of binary/hex editor perhiphrial detection... Otherwise I question the security of the gamecube version. I was practically forced to buy the darn game shark for my own protection on the DC version. Lets all hope that is not the case for the GC version, I do not care to go through the whole FSOD/BSOD and the newest disaster for the dreamcast version... LOBBY FREEZING thing all over again... _/ darn interact gameshark and code breaker and xploader I hate all of them!

StelardActek
10-23-2002, 06:43 PM
I hear the GC GameShark needs to be hooked up to the modem slot...

Lman90245
10-23-2002, 07:30 PM
even if it does have to attach to the modem... I hope nintendo and or sega can detect it online and things that have been made offline for online use...



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CoVaH
10-25-2002, 05:34 PM
The Gameshark for Gamecube is a disc, I seen a photo.

Lman90245
10-25-2002, 08:19 PM
If it's a disk... I will not buy the GC version unless sega can say with confidence that the Game Shark won't work with Phantasy Star Online for the GC _/

CoVaH
10-27-2002, 09:45 AM
I dont think the gameshark will work since they were able to stop it on version 2 of pso.

DJ_Monkey
11-09-2002, 05:09 PM
CoVaH is right. The Gameshark was rendered useless on v2 and toward the end of v1. It was the CodeBreaker and Xploder that caused all the problems.

Pelican has no plans for a CodeBreaker, and I believe that the company that made the Xploder went out of business.

hollowtip
11-12-2002, 01:56 AM
Although I don't totally blame Barubary for PSO V1 and V2's demise, a lot of the destruction that has come to the game can be attributed to Barubary's decompiling and manipulation of game coding, whether it's just duping items or bypassing security measures, he is opening a lot of doors for less motivated individuals -who don't have time reverse engineer software down to a byte- to hack the game to shit. In my observations since the launch of the original PSO, the only name that has ever came up when major loopholes in cheating protection schemes were found and exploited was barubary and only barubary. A chain reaction of similar hacks usually follows after this news starts spreading to major websites, and these similar hacks are usually created for detremental purposes only, ruining many a gaming experiences.



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Buuyon
10-31-2003, 04:07 PM
hey i know this is kinda really old...but if the baru who is saying the truth about amking that server thing...when will it be done?

Barubary9
10-31-2003, 05:31 PM
On 2002-09-22 18:56, rbf2000 wrote:

On 2002-09-22 18:28, PlatinumGame wrote:
Everyone who just used the word hacker is a moron. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

I'm sure that neither of the 2 is the real Barubary. For one, Bar already has a username which is Barubary so why would he make another one. Second, these people just seem like fakes. Bar7 is more convincing than 6 but still doesn't cut it.


Barubary has been banned several times. Barubary6 is a lot more real than Barubay7 is, I can tell you that much.



(Coming out of hiding)
That's where you are wrong. There are 3 of us. But there is only 1 True Barubary. Everyone knows FOR A FACT that the REAL Barubary (Me) totally dismantled Phantasy Star Online for the DreamCast. Barubary6 in this case is NOT the real Barubary... just a poser. From the big names of veteran PSO players who KNEW me could tell you the truths... I have a small list:

Meddy, DEVIL, DJ Dubz, I-Nugz, Nausicaa, HEP20, DaI Lo MaC, SadnessofDel... a few... some seem familiar to you? Maybe, because they were there when I... Barubary (name unknown) intentionally gave out the NOL code to "test" how it would work on other gamers, and the gamer who ran the "code".

"Hacker" a term misused... The Barubary you see as MYRIA in your favorite little game, PSO, is NOT a Hacker indeed... and had no affiliation with anything going on in ANY version of PSO...

As posted here...
The trial version of PSO now out in Japan on the Gamecube has already been cheated. There have been level 200 people floating around on the Gamecube servers - I wish someone had a screen shot of this.

These people cheat by connecting their Gamecube modem to their PC modem and faking a PPP server. From there, they send fake packets to the client that cause it to update its character data, then save and quit to make it permanent. (It uses the same mechanism that the real server uses to delete hacked stats from your characters.)

I had no direct involvement with this, nor did anyone else in GSCCC. The reality is that I broke the DC/PC PSO's internet protocol encryption and gave the source code to a Japanese cheater. From him it spread to others. Apparently, Sonic Team wasn't smart enough to change the internet protocol encryption from the DC/PC version to the Gamecube version, and this cheating is the result of it.

-- Barubary

I'm very disappointed in this... Indeed... Because this topic posted by Barubary6 stated above... shows how fake he is... I can tell you myself... Barubary7 comes closer to being me than the real thing. Sure I can hack PSO... but I cant entirely. There are many things hidden in the lines of binary code... I can't see it... and I can't encode it. Sure... I can modify your level... section IDs... but that is all I can do. If it has anything to do with my custom server/PPP enhancements, then it may be a homebrew. I've many spies as well in PSO... too bad many aren't truly into the game as was I. FOnewmkiller, Nugz, Hayato, Myria... all of my pawns on the chessboard "turned their hues". Sure I lost them...

-FOnewmkiller- using what I made him and giving credit to someone who doesn't exist... That was a wonderful move
-Hayato- just did the same thing FOnewmkiller did... except it turned him into a phsydistic, egotistical maniac... (note: Myria said "his hacking" didn't ruin PSO... that's because everything that had value... this goon decided to change the definition of RARE into Common)
-NUGZ- Yes we all know Nugz... He was a better joke than the fake Barubary6. Making a website of his worshipping... taking ALL the credit... I didn't like his additude anyways... I don't tolerate kids.
-Myria- There is Clara... and there is Barubary's 1 (Myself) and 2 (7). Where Myria came in? I know... supposely by buying and using simple products and programs, and basically censoring them. Programs Clara and I constructed.

These four are basically considered "REALLY GOOD CHEATERS"
In 3 different styles.
FO and Hayato... Good Cheaters
Nugz... Good Lying Cheater
Myria... Novice Hacker/Advance Cheater

Why am I doing this? This is the truth.
Facts you should know about this POSER... Myria

1. Can't ban you, maybe disconnect and FSOD... but no banning/corruptions

2. Clara MADE Myria. I admit Clara MADE anyone

3. Myria is smart, but bad at lying... (I mean, come on Myria, that post at gamespot.com? You admitting it? Yes you can look that up by going to Netscape.com and look up Myria Packets.

4. What Myria can do... anyone can do.

5. I have pictures and claims that Myria begs us (Me, 7 and Clara) for hacking techniques regarding PSO. That information, was founded by a good team, Clara, Seven, and I.

6. Myria is a 20+ year old man.

(Note: The only reason I do this is to expose Myria aka Barubary6, that is NOT the HACKER you believe it to be... the majority of the people here should understand. I'm getting tired of Myria taking credit for things Clara created.) Now let's continue our day as it normally runs anyday.

BlueJammer
10-31-2003, 08:58 PM
Isnt there a sticky on bumping old topics?

yohan
11-01-2003, 02:17 AM
nope, but there should be.

Bri-N
11-01-2003, 02:41 AM
LoL this is very interesting, but Barubary6 is the only one that seems real. Why? Because Barubary6 is the one here that always posts news about PSO that we normally wouldn't know about. Barubary9 says that he can only edit our levels and change section IDs and yet on the import 1.0 version, Barubary was able to do much more lol....

BlueJammer
11-01-2003, 06:11 AM
But theres a sticky with the forum rules on it.

punkrazza
11-01-2003, 05:53 PM
Barubary 6 and 7!?! and now 9?? man this is starting to be BS! sheesh man....

Nai_Calus
11-02-2003, 01:33 AM
OMG SOMEONE DUPED BARUBARY!!!

...Sorry, this just reminded me of times on IRC when someone will peer out, but the server doesn't recognise it, and they then have to come back on with a different nick and until the original one is dropped by the server or ghosted, it looks like the same person is in the channel twice with different nicks. If the person plays PSO, my usual response to this is "OMG Someone duped *name*!" >_>;

primer567
11-02-2003, 11:02 AM
Best of luck mate.

JohanCC
11-05-2003, 08:14 PM
Don't bump old topics. Read the forum rules (http://www.pso-world.com/faq.php?myfaq=yes&id_cat=9&categories=Forum).

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/lock.gif

Firocket1690
11-13-2003, 06:17 PM
On 2003-11-05 18:14, JohanCC wrote:
Don't bump old topics. Read the forum rules (http://www.pso-world.com/faq.php?myfaq=yes&id_cat=9&categories=Forum).

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/lock.gif


No offense, but you dound like a mod.
Oh, and your thread lock didn't work. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif