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seeing in how the game comes out Nov 30 (or so I'm told) why not get it for 20 bucks more 2 months early? It is well worth it...just switch the language to english (if u cant read japanese) and ur set....this game is worth the 20 bucks extra...
On 2002-09-25 21:03, Tide wrote:
seeing in how the game comes out Nov 30 (or so I'm told) why not get it for 20 bucks more 2 months early? It is well worth it...just switch the language to english (if u cant read japanese) and ur set....this game is worth the 20 bucks extra...
Yes, it's worth it if you want to get the game, have ST upgrade the servers, have to send your copy back and wait for them to send you a new one, all the while people weren't even supposed to import the game.
I think I'll wait.
rbf2000
09-25-2002, 11:39 PM
But at least you can sit down while you wait...
http://members.lycos.co.uk/jfabian/sit.jpg
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
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What the hell? I can't respond to that.
Importing at this point would be stupid. Especially because importers are getting screwed over.
Sedric
09-26-2002, 12:47 AM
No we are not screwed over....
Wait, are we? I'm not sure....
I think we are not, cause that's what Ah King's site said.
On 2002-09-25 22:47, Sedric wrote:
I think we are not, cause that's what Ah King's site said.
If you sleep better at night believing that then sweet dreams.
Souljah
09-26-2002, 01:02 AM
Well i bought it from an import shop and i still have my reciet http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Sedric
09-26-2002, 01:08 AM
If you sleep better at night believing that then sweet dreams.
LOL. I didn't say I believe it. I just said I think we are not. Beside, even if we were, I got my receipt from import store too, just like above post does! Harhar!!
Sucks if you have to exchange it for an unopened version of the same title.
Rhete
09-26-2002, 01:23 AM
On 2002-09-25 21:39, rbf2000 wrote:
But at least you can sit down while you wait...
http://members.lycos.co.uk/jfabian/sit.jpg
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
Nice clipping on the arms. Go Sonic Team!
On 2002-09-25 23:23, Rhete wrote:
Nice clipping on the arms. Go Sonic Team!
It's a prank, holgraphic chair. A second later the HUcast was lying flat on his back http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
SilencePSO
09-26-2002, 05:59 AM
It's not worth importing to me! If this stuff isn't fixed Nintendo lost me to the Xbox version, I won't play yet another PSO that is ruined by cheating, be it with a Xploder, bug or whatever.
On 2002-09-26 03:59, SilencePSO wrote:
It's not worth importing to me! If this stuff isn't fixed Nintendo lost me to the Xbox version, I won't play yet another PSO that is ruined by cheating, be it with a Xploder, bug or whatever.
Read Barubary's posts. PSO Xbox is going to obviously be the most hacked-and-slashed PSO out there since the computer-like archetechture(sp) of the XBox can be soo easily cracked.
And as to Gates saying that the new Xboxes are hack proof... Win98 wasn't much faster than 95, 2000 wasn't faster than 98, Me wasn't faster than 98 or 2000, and XP is the suckiest version yet although Gates claims it to be the best.
Davion
09-26-2002, 11:56 AM
If the game does come out in November, I might reconsider importing. WHat do you need to do to have the Jap. PSO work on a USA GC?
Ian D
09-26-2002, 03:12 PM
I aint gonna import cuz I aint no stankin' rich boy, rich boys! (and girls)
ginko990
09-26-2002, 03:20 PM
On 2002-09-25 23:23, Rhete wrote:
On 2002-09-25 21:39, rbf2000 wrote:
But at least you can sit down while you wait...
http://members.lycos.co.uk/jfabian/sit.jpg
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
Nice clipping on the arms. Go Sonic Team!
They're fixing it, that's why its being re-released in 2 months, a better, less arm clipping version. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
And I believe Importers are being F'ed over, the games got the "bugs" and the rest of the world is getting the fixed verison and the servers will not be linked.
HUnewearl_Meira
09-26-2002, 04:46 PM
On 2002-09-26 09:22, Spy wrote:
On 2002-09-26 03:59, SilencePSO wrote:
It's not worth importing to me! If this stuff isn't fixed Nintendo lost me to the Xbox version, I won't play yet another PSO that is ruined by cheating, be it with a Xploder, bug or whatever.
Read Barubary's posts. PSO Xbox is going to obviously be the most hacked-and-slashed PSO out there since the computer-like archetechture(sp) of the XBox can be soo easily cracked.
And as to Gates saying that the new Xboxes are hack proof... Win98 wasn't much faster than 95, 2000 wasn't faster than 98, Me wasn't faster than 98 or 2000, and XP is the suckiest version yet although Gates claims it to be the best.
What deranged kind of crack are you smoking? Since I upgraded from 98 Second Edition to XP, I rarely have to reboot (only when I've installed something that requires the computer to reload the System directory), networking is easier than ever, I can connect to DSL natively, and even SHARE it with others on my network, therefore disabling the need for an expensive DSL router, I can kill misbehaved programs without causing my MP3s to pause, not to mention, I can see EVERYTHING operating on my computer at once, instead only those things that appear as programs, and the list goes on. The only real problem I've seen, is some minor compatibility issues with DOS applications... Which really doesn't bother me a whole lot. So, tell me, why is XP the crappiest version yet?
Kenks23
09-26-2002, 07:15 PM
Well I for one am a japanese minor (if not major) and I think it'd be fun to have an imported game from Japan. And plus, I absolutely love PSO!!! The GC version looks great (except for the lack in improved graphics). Anyway, I'm excited to import it when ST makes their decision on how they are going to handle the duping bug and other misc bugs. I don't want to be screwed over.
i believe sega will send fixed copies to distributers and then those copies will then be sent to consumers free of charge(except for s&h of course). But i always could be wrong, especially if this new version contains new areas/enemies and what not.
rbf2000
09-26-2002, 08:08 PM
On 2002-09-25 23:23, Rhete wrote:
On 2002-09-25 21:39, rbf2000 wrote:
But at least you can sit down while you wait...
http://members.lycos.co.uk/jfabian/sit.jpg
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
Nice clipping on the arms. Go Sonic Team!
The guy was either starting to stand up, or just sitting down when I took that picture, soooooo, I uploaded this one over it (once I figured how to sit myself... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif)
And, to stay on topic, they most likely won't make you send back the "dupe version". What would be funny, though, would be if to distribute the fixed games, they used the addresses entered into the dricas info (which are all bogus, if you live in the US)...
Souljah
09-26-2002, 08:56 PM
On 2002-09-26 18:08, rbf2000 wrote:
On 2002-09-25 23:23, Rhete wrote:
On 2002-09-25 21:39, rbf2000 wrote:
But at least you can sit down while you wait...
http://members.lycos.co.uk/jfabian/sit.jpg
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
Nice clipping on the arms. Go Sonic Team!
The guy was either starting to stand up, or just sitting down when I took that picture, soooooo, I uploaded this one over it (once I figured how to sit myself... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif)
And, to stay on topic, they most likely won't make you send back the "dupe version". What would be funny, though, would be if to distribute the fixed games, they used the addresses entered into the dricas info (which are all bogus, if you live in the US)...
LOL if they do that Hard Rock Cafe Tokyo will be getting a copy of PSO. As long as ST ships it to distributers for a free exchange im good.
Sedyne
09-26-2002, 09:36 PM
On 2002-09-26 14:46, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:
On 2002-09-26 09:22, Spy wrote:
On 2002-09-26 03:59, SilencePSO wrote:
It's not worth importing to me! If this stuff isn't fixed Nintendo lost me to the Xbox version, I won't play yet another PSO that is ruined by cheating, be it with a Xploder, bug or whatever.
Read Barubary's posts. PSO Xbox is going to obviously be the most hacked-and-slashed PSO out there since the computer-like archetechture(sp) of the XBox can be soo easily cracked.
And as to Gates saying that the new Xboxes are hack proof... Win98 wasn't much faster than 95, 2000 wasn't faster than 98, Me wasn't faster than 98 or 2000, and XP is the suckiest version yet although Gates claims it to be the best.
What deranged kind of crack are you smoking? Since I upgraded from 98 Second Edition to XP, I rarely have to reboot (only when I've installed something that requires the computer to reload the System directory), networking is easier than ever, I can connect to DSL natively, and even SHARE it with others on my network, therefore disabling the need for an expensive DSL router, I can kill misbehaved programs without causing my MP3s to pause, not to mention, I can see EVERYTHING operating on my computer at once, instead only those things that appear as programs, and the list goes on. The only real problem I've seen, is some minor compatibility issues with DOS applications... Which really doesn't bother me a whole lot. So, tell me, why is XP the crappiest version yet?
Spy is an idiot that why. I love you and all spy but...XP is by far the best version of windows. Why would they release it if it wasn't? WindowsXP has to be the MOST IDIOT PROOF OS after MACos9. You don't have to toy with IP Configurations and DNS Servers and such to enable home netowrking...simply plug in and search for server and your good to go. and no hard ass installation with software as XP provides auto detection for almost all hardware.
The fault in XP is it DOES HAVE ALOT OF BUGS for the ADVANCED users which will piss the hell out of any avid computer user who constantly screwes with software. And alot of XP's drivers arn't the EXACT driver which hardware uses. But to most, it's a very suitable OS. I believe WindowsME was the biggest piece of shit OS i've ever seen. Honestly i think people should learn to use unix more now, hell i wish i could use unix like i know windows. but it's tough and windows is mroe user friendly for those who arn't familiar to code. anwyays getting back on topic...
Sonic Team seriously suck. Sega is slackin lately, and as for the death of the dreamcast....it was the most profitable system supposedly yet sega was losing money? talk about dumbasses. Come on sega quit your slackin and just update the damn servers for the stupid bug so you don't screw importers over. =)
On 2002-09-26 19:36, SedyneX930 wrote:
Spy is an idiot that why. I love you and all spy but...XP is by far the best version of windows.
Who are you again?
Why would they release it if it wasn't?
To make money.
WindowsXP has to be the MOST IDIOT PROOF OS after MACos9.
Mmm... perhaps that's why XP and I don't get along. I'm not an idiot http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
You don't have to toy with IP Configurations and DNS Servers and such to enable home netowrking...simply plug in and search for server and your good to go. and no hard ass installation with software as XP provides auto detection for almost all hardware.
Toying with IP configs and networking protocols is half the fun. If someone can't do something as simple as they they shouldn't have a home network.
The fault in XP is it DOES HAVE ALOT OF BUGS for the ADVANCED users which will piss the hell out of any avid computer user who constantly screwes with software.
Amen.
And alot of XP's drivers arn't the EXACT driver which hardware uses.
Amen. And when you do try to use an exact driver XP fucks you over.
But to most, it's a very suitable OS.
Most people are stupid.
I believe WindowsME was the biggest piece of shit OS i've ever seen.
For me XP takes the cake. Sorry.
Honestly i think people should learn to use unix more now, hell i wish i could use unix like i know windows. but it's tough and windows is mroe user friendly for those who arn't familiar to code.
Mmmm.... Linux I love you so.
anwyays getting back on topic...
Awe...
Sonic Team seriously suck. Sega is slackin lately, and as for the death of the dreamcast....it was the most profitable system supposedly yet sega was losing money? talk about dumbasses. Come on sega quit your slackin and just update the damn servers for the stupid bug so you don't screw importers over. =)
ST isn't slacking. They are still making money off of a 2 year old game by adding new "features." For low cost they are turning great profit. The bigwigs are beaming I'm sure.
SilencePSO
09-27-2002, 06:38 AM
Calling WindowsXP the worst version ever is just plain stupid, are we all forgeting Windows '98? Like it matters, I do agree with spy that Linux kicks the pants off any of 'em.
But the Xbox is the most hackable system? I understand that people hate M$ and Bill Gates, trust me, I do, there's a reason my server runs Linux, I have no love for M$ really.
You do, however, have to admit what a company does something RIGHT. The Xbox is one hell of a peice of hardware, and it has so far proven very, very secure. The only way to hack it is some serious knowledge and time, the kind of knowledge and time the stupid 13 year old kids who "hacked" (read:cheated) PSO to death do NOT have. Seriously, the no reason Xbox bashing get's redundant, it's a hell of a system, M$ did something right, just admit it (they where bound to get SOMETHING right after all these years).
Personally I think Xbox will have the safest version of PSO around, just because I think M$ is going to pay more attention to their servers than anyone else (they are commited to online). And if you have BB (as any power-user should), who wouldn't want a BB only PSO? Sounds like heaven to me!
Of course, I'm probably totally wrong (not impossible, I've been wrong before, I think, maybe even twice, but that's not likely http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif ), or even if I'm right, we'll all disagree some more *sigh*
And always remember, it's all just opinions till we get our hands on 'em! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
Kenks23
09-27-2002, 12:29 PM
Too bad I don't have an XBox to comment on this. Wish I did 'cause then it could replace my PS2 as a dvd player since my PS2 is the only dvd player I have connected to my TV.
I like Windows XP. I use it as my main OS for my computer. It's fun sometimes. I'm an anti-microsoft person, but I still end up using it regardless 'cause I don't want to figure out how to convert every game I play and software I use to Linux or something.
I will say that Windows ME was the absolute worst OS I've ever seen them create. Bug after bug after bug on that OS. Way worse than Windows 98. We finally got the SE of Windows 98 and it was a bit better than Windows ME. I still regret putting ME on my parents computer when XP wasn't out.
StratusFear
09-27-2002, 02:33 PM
I agree with those here who have said it -- both XP and X-box bashing without a good reason or reason at all gets really old. Everyone thinks that since Windows versions before NT based 2000/XP crashed so much, then that must mean the X-box is easily hackable. Wait, that doesn't make sense, did I miss something? The truth is as SilencePSO said, the common PSO cheater doesn't have the time or resources needed to break the box and ruin an online game. I don't like X-box myself, but all these anti-X-box people that think anything about the X-box must be bad are just ignorant.
And as for the XP bashing, if you get more than one blue screen a week and have driver problems, most likely you have a crapass computer, or a computer that is too old. Don't blame it on XP -- NT/2000/XP are the next best thing to *nix, and are never as bad as the naysayers like to think. In fact, any bitching to be had about any product usually constitutes for less than 5% of the product's users. The reason it seems more than that and it seems like everyone says XP sucks is simply because the few people who have crappy computers that can't run XP well are the ones that speak the loudest.
And if you really want to run Linux, but don't have the patience to dig through and write scripts and configs, just use Mandrake. Easiest way to set up a server quickly. I run all my dedicated game servers and my website on a Linux box. It's the best OS for that.
SilencePSO
09-27-2002, 08:03 PM
Wow, StratusFear, it's like you took the words out of my mouth!
My server does run Mandrake Linux (the best IMHO), you see 9.0 came out the other day? I'm itching to upgrade http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
And what you said about XP is right on too, many times it's people who just bought their PC in a store that complain, not people who understand hardware. I've left my XP box on for weeks at a time, with not one single crash. Sure IE might crash now and then, but it starts right back up, with no restart needed. I've had Mozilla crash in Linux just as many times, same thing, just restart Mozilla, no restart needed. They are both fine OS's, but M$ does charge a bit too much. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
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Kenks23
09-27-2002, 11:28 PM
On 2002-09-27 18:03, SilencePSO wrote:
They are both fine OS's, but M$ does charge a bit too much. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
Amen to that.
I also agree with the comment concerning the common PSO player and hacking. I don't think the common PSO player has the know-how to hack into an XBox to make it really worth arguing. I think the xbox is fun and I will be adding one to my collection eventually and probably getting PSO for it as well. I think that'd be fun if there are additional things from the PSO on GC.
Back to the topic, I don't really see the need to bash on the OS.
StratusFear
09-28-2002, 02:32 AM
On 2002-09-27 18:03, SilencePSO wrote:
Wow, StratusFear, it's like you took the words out of my mouth!
My server does run Mandrake Linux (the best IMHO), you see 9.0 came out the other day? I'm itching to upgrade http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
I have the three downloaded and burned cds of it sitting on my desk. I just have yet to install it on my system. My server is running 8.2 right now, but I'll probably just leave it like that. My desktop computer is for tinkering with stuff like new Mandrakes, so I figure I should leave the server alone and not try to fix what isn't broken http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
And what you said about XP is right on too, many times it's people who just bought their PC in a store that complain, not people who understand hardware. I've left my XP box on for weeks at a time, with not one single crash. Sure IE might crash now and then, but it starts right back up, with no restart needed. I've had Mozilla crash in Linux just as many times, same thing, just restart Mozilla, no restart needed. They are both fine OS's, but M$ does charge a bit too much. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
IE does crash, hehe. But IE isn't XP -- you know that XP has to be fairly good if IE crashing doesn't bring down the system like it did in 98 (or any program crashing for that matter). And yes, MS does charge too much...most of my friends don't own legal copies of the OS just because of that! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
Danderdag
09-28-2002, 07:30 AM
thats why OS's cost so much =p they require a TON of programming work and testing, lots of people work on something like XP Pro, and then you can only hope to sell it to someone once every 5 years or so most likely.
StratusFear
09-28-2002, 01:31 PM
On 2002-09-28 05:30, Danderdag wrote:
thats why OS's cost so much =p they require a TON of programming work and testing, lots of people work on something like XP Pro, and then you can only hope to sell it to someone once every 5 years or so most likely.
Linux is free, Lindows is 100$...Microsoft needn't charge 200-300 for an OS, they're making way over 100$ profit on that...
Danderdag
09-29-2002, 12:08 AM
yes linux is free, because it's basically an open OS. the original creators wanted it that way. MS does not make some kind of ungodly profit on windows, they make enough to bring in the dough and to support the tens of thousands of people it takes to keep windows updated, programmers, tech support, ALL of that crap. most of the money they make is businesses who need hundreds of copies, but still they aren't stupid enough to try and rip off the consumer so much that the product doesn't sell.
StratusFear
09-29-2002, 03:23 AM
On 2002-09-28 22:08, Danderdag wrote:
yes linux is free, because it's basically an open OS. the original creators wanted it that way. MS does not make some kind of ungodly profit on windows, they make enough to bring in the dough and to support the tens of thousands of people it takes to keep windows updated, programmers, tech support, ALL of that crap. most of the money they make is businesses who need hundreds of copies, but still they aren't stupid enough to try and rip off the consumer so much that the product doesn't sell.
Microsoft almost does make an ungodly amount of profit on the OS. They've been criticized by many in the know on marketing types of things. The reason they can charge as much as they do is because they are the market. Do you think for one minute they wouldn't take advantage of this? Also, the fact that Linux is free is a great point to this; just because it's open source and free doesn't mean that distribution developers have an easy job. And what about Lindows?
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