PSO GC Boring>Allready users tell me...

[Sedyne]

this is a conversation between a person all of you know but he wanted me to not include his sn name. He's been playing pso since jp v1. as have i...and it makes me weary on buying the gc version.

ANONYMOUS (8:31:43 PM): lol
SeanX930 (8:50:19 PM): so whats new
SeanX930 (8:50:22 PM): what level are ya in pso
ANONYMOUS (8:50:27 PM): nothing and i dunno what lvl i amn
ANONYMOUS (8:50:29 PM): i got bore
ANONYMOUS (8:50:30 PM): d
ANONYMOUS (8:50:34 PM): its boring already
SeanX930 (8:50:35 PM): lol boerd allready
SeanX930 (8:50:39 PM): lol
ANONYMOUS (8:50:40 PM): i havn't played in like 2 weeks
ANONYMOUS (8:50:45 PM): pso is crappy now
SeanX930 (8:50:46 PM): "cancles pso.."
ANONYMOUS (8:50:47 PM): seriosuly its old
ANONYMOUS (8:50:57 PM): yyeah youd best buy a better game
ANONYMOUS (8:51:00 PM): pso is crap now
ANONYMOUS (8:51:04 PM): the gameplay is old and boring
ANONYMOUS (8:51:09 PM): the enemy AI.... HA
SeanX930 (8:51:17 PM): stupid as hell?
ANONYMOUS (8:51:23 PM): its the exact same
ANONYMOUS (8:51:29 PM): the same crappy AI as always
ANONYMOUS (8:51:31 PM): just new skins
ANONYMOUS (8:51:32 PM): so lame
SeanX930 (8:51:41 PM): mind if i post this crap on psow lol for some "show of how much sega didn't change things"
SeanX930 (8:51:51 PM): our convo...just parts uve said?
ANONYMOUS (8:51:57 PM): well...
ANONYMOUS (8:52:00 PM): black my name out
SeanX930 (8:52:02 PM): i'll change your name
ANONYMOUS (8:52:04 PM): and say i'm anonomys
ANONYMOUS (8:52:08 PM): dont say its me
ANONYMOUS (8:52:13 PM): just put anonymis
ANONYMOUS (8:52:17 PM): or however you spell it
ANONYMOUS (8:52:34 PM): im actually thinking about getting FFXI for pc now

[_xX_Frosty_Xx_]

I've heard this alot already, but this doesn't discourage me from playing it. As long as it's like the goood ol PSO I'll be happy ^_^ You are still coming though, right?

[Sedyne]

Yes, even though i think i'll be thoroughly disapointed with the gameitself, I am still getting it. "Prays for a miracle of a fantastic game"

[ABDUR101]

I've expected the exact same gameplay and all that, so I prolly won't be let down.

Purty graphics and the same fun as before is what attracts me to it. =)

[_xX_Frosty_Xx_]

As long as it was like it was before, I'm not complaining. I'm glad they added all the new elements and stuff, it'll just keep me interested even longer ^_^ I hope you all didn't think this was a brand new game, keep in mind, it's a PORT. Just be satisfied we can get it =) Look forward to reliving the good ol' PSO days....

EDIT: Typo



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: _xX_Frosty_Xx_ on 2002-10-09 18:45 ]</font>

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

That conversation will not convince anyone who wished to buy it to do otherwise.
It's your friend's opinion.
Only one opinion.
People will still buy it. Mind you not everyone who plays games has played PSO at one time or another so its "new" to them. For old players there are "new" things/features implemented in the game.

You just said you would buy it too. So he didn't do a good job convincing you either and you're the one who posted that it would convince people to not buy it. Tisk tisk http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_no.gif

[Davion]

I really don't care if anyone says it's boring. It's PSO, and I'll play it til they take my DC/GC away. I'm the kinda PSOer who played alot (A whole lot) offline only. I can't wait till PSO GC comes out, and I'll run naked through the streets of Boston to get it sooner.

NOTE: I'm kidding on the running naked part. It's a joke, a lie, it's not real.

[Sedric]

Funny. Ep1&2 is nothing more than an expension to the original PSO. It's just a same game with more stuffs. It's for people who just couldn't get enough of PSO goodness.

I guess this is a good time to say this: if you're expecting a brand new game different from DC PSO, then don't buy Ep1&2. Or you'll end up like that Mr. Anonymous.

[ruairi]

who is that was saying PSO is crap?The new levels, bosses, mini-bosses(maybe just a rumor), weapons, Quests, battling, trading, talking and meeting new ppl online.I don't see how the new Pso is gonna get old fast that guy(anonymous probably doesn't even own the game)seriously though Pso isn't crap v2 did get kinda old fast though but that is because they rushed it.They have spent time on the Gc version,*notice how it keeps getting pushed back.If all I've heard about the Gc version is true then it will truly be a very good game.

[st4pl3s]

Ok, for all you verterans i guess this wont be much different, but for all the newbs.... rejoice! This will be the best gc game out this year and im pretty sure it wont get boring for most people!

[Danger_Girl]

PSO is pretty much a hack 'n slash threw and threw. My sisters husband, who is an avid gamer has no clue what the attraction is for me. To be perfectly honest, I don't really know what the attraction is either. But the GC PSO is the first game I've been excited about in a long long time. I will not be disapointed. I know what to expect, and I can't wait.

[Draktyr]

Boring or not, a PSO fan is still a PSO fan....well, except "anonymous" apparently. The DC version had it's flaws, the GC version will as well....but that won't keep me from purchasing and playing the hell outta it!

Sega might not change things in it, but what about games like Final Fantasy and Resident Evil. these games retain the same ol' stuff from title to title. They may throw in a new aspect or nifty upgrade, but in essence, you get the same thing....with a fresher, prettier coat of paint.

Before ou go reaming me about what I just said, don't get me wrong, I love PSO, Final Fantasy and Resident Evil. I will buy everyone that is released, new features or not. All I am saying is that just because one person gripes about how "boring" a game is, is no reason why everyone else should conform as well.

If I buy that game and I hate it, then that's my problem...no one elses!

Thanks for hearing my rant!

-Drak

[Sedyne]

On 2002-10-09 18:58, HAYABUSA-FMW- wrote:
That conversation will not convince anyone who wished to buy it to do otherwise.
It's your friend's opinion.
Only one opinion.
People will still buy it. Mind you not everyone who plays games has played PSO at one time or another so its "new" to them. For old players there are "new" things/features implemented in the game.

You just said you would buy it too. So he didn't do a good job convincing you either and you're the one who posted that it would convince people to not buy it. Tisk tisk http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_no.gif



lol i'm aware. however one thing i'm worried about is when i do get it that i'll be playing it foreve. i mean it's a great online game. my worry is that some people will get bored of it then just quit. that's what happened in psov2 and i was sad because i lost alot of friends that just were bored of it =(. I hope we all don't get bored of it too quickly like v2 did. That's all i'm saying. PSO is nothing without its community

[Wewt]

Draktyr, you're a cool fanboy. The kind I like. I'm like that too with some games, such as the Zelda series.

PSO on the GameCube is a lot of fun. I'm even having fun in offline mode... now that's something I'd never expect myself to say.

I've got one warning to those who have yet to play it... beware of online Vol Opt Ver.2...

[RavenTW]

For crap's sake, it's PSO. It could be a crappy GC game with the PSO logo slapped on to it, and it will still make millions.

Ok, obviousness aside, all the above posters are correct. That's one persons's opinion. If we have a different one, that's our problem. If we get bored, then we get bored. I, for one, won't even start playing with the new things (except those that are for both episodes) until I level up a little bit, but I can either become bored of the old and start playing Ep 2, or relive my youth and have fun.

What we think is our business, no one elses. It's good to see that you didn't take this "advice" to heart

[Sedyne]

On 2002-10-10 04:57, RavenTW wrote:
For crap's sake, it's PSO. It could be a crappy GC game with the PSO logo slapped on to it, and it will still make millions.

Ok, obviousness aside, all the above posters are correct. That's one persons's opinion. If we have a different one, that's our problem. If we get bored, then we get bored. I, for one, won't even start playing with the new things (except those that are for both episodes) until I level up a little bit, but I can either become bored of the old and start playing Ep 2, or relive my youth and have fun.

What we think is our business, no one elses. It's good to see that you didn't take this "advice" to heart


Yes, well MY POINT IS JUST i'll be sad if people get bored of the game quickly and lots of god people just disapear =(. You guys know what i'm saying...i just hope sega did enough.

[Zenigma]

well i havent played PSO since version 1 (didnt bother with version 2 because of constant delays) So, GC PSO will be some what new to me, so "anonymous" has no bearin on me

[Agent_Reav]

I can kind of see what he means... PSO v2 was incredibly shallow... I think i got to level 103 (I was lvl 100) and just quit and so did like every other person I know that purchased that game. It was hard to find good v2ers. But with PSO GC/XBOX we have BRAND NEW AREAS (v2 had the same areas with a different color scheme), we have BRAND NEW CHARACTER CLASSES (v2 had nothing new involving characters), and we have Voice Chat (PSO XBOX). Let's just say I won't be turning off my Xbox anytime soon.

[Gradius]

Let's turn this into the PSO hate thread.

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Go away.

[Zenigma]

one man's light is another man's shadow...er or vice versa..

[Malkavian]

I don't think PSO gameplay is old.
Is only that some of us already played a lot of PSO, and PSO Episode 1&2 have the same gameplay.

But I look to other action RPG and its gameplay is way more simple than PSO but is something NEW at least.

I like all the changes made in Ep 1&2 about balancing characters, revamping special PSO DC items, balancing ultimate and adding a whole new episode to play.

[Ness]

On 2002-10-09 18:22, _xX_Frosty_Xx_ wrote:
I've heard this alot already, but this doesn't discourage me from playing it. As long as it's like the goood ol PSO I'll be happy ^_^ You are still coming though, right?



Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Draktyr]

Thanks for the compliment...er...is "W" okay? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Anyway, I hold this stance for any game that comes out, and PSO is no exception. I don't really know what everyone was expecting with the GC version. It was always labeled as a port...well, with a few new additions, that's grown to quite a few...we honestly can't expect Sega to completely overhaul the title to the point that it loses what is fun and addictive about it.

I think adding a four-player offline mode was a stroke of brilliance. I would much rather play with three other people I know and trust, than play with a newcomer that might backstab me and screw my game up the first chance he gets.

The addition of the new levels is enough to make me want this title...plus the small GC library makes this a must-purchase anyway!

PSO will always have it's fanbase (me included), and if Sega brought out two, three or even ten more PSO titles verbatim to its predecessor, that particular fanbase would embrace them as a new title.

My point is this; love it, play it. If you think it stinks, keep it to yourself. Don't try to change people's minds about it.

Take it like this...I love the entire PS universe. When I first heard of PSO, I was not happy. They did away with what I felt most complimented the series during it's 16-bit days. It was only after playing it that I realized that Sega hadn't forsaken that universe...they just expanded upon it. It's this reason that I will embrace this franchise until it's demise.


-Drak

[Darrin]

I don't really care what other people think about the game.

[TedEdFred]

On 2002-10-10 15:13, Draktyr wrote:
I think adding a four-player offline mode was a stroke of brilliance. I would much rather play with three other people I know and trust, than play with a newcomer that might backstab me and screw my game up the first chance he gets.

You must have a big TV eh?

[Draktyr]

Not to sound like I am bragging...but I have a 32" TV (S-Video, Stereo, Picture-In-Picture....etc.)...and that is hooked up to my digital surround sound receiver...ahhh, Dolby (LOL).

I do in fact love the idea of four player split-screen. Goldeneye on the N64 was good at it....PSO looks to be on par as well.

Don't get me wrong...I will try the online mode...but there is no better feeling to be able to turn and hit a partner for stealing your Meseta, than only being able to curse an online one! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

PSOForever!

-Drak

[SkyHawkX]

What the hell were people expecting? New gameplay? Were they expecting being able to strafe or jump or new enemy AI?

[Draktyr]

Apparently so, SkyHawkX....hence the feeling that Sega did nothing new. As I said before, i could care less, as long as it's the same game i fell in love with a few years back...the additions just sweeten the deal! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

-Drak

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

On 2002-10-10 18:08, SkyHawkX wrote:
What the hell were people expecting? New gameplay? Were they expecting being able to strafe or jump or new enemy AI?


Shh! Keep quiet, now you gave them ideas about what to complain about that's not in GC PSO. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_no.gif

It's the first game for this system and a sequel so in some ways its a port and in some ways new.

Feeling that many people will turn away from it soon after they start is a viable thing to say. Just hope you find people that will play as long as you do on the servers rather than one day "friends" that you never see again.

[merlin]

Are these people stupid???

How can the new PSO NOT be boring if you've been playing the DC version right up until the day you pop in the Cube version? These idiots are doing it to themselves!!!

Why can't people give themselves a break from this game and play something else BEFORE they play the new version? Anyone who can't physically do that needs to put down the controller and keyboard and get a life away from PSO.

[ABDUR101]

On 2002-10-11 09:15, merlin wrote:
How can the new PSO NOT be boring if you've been playing the DC version right up until the day you pop in the Cube version? These idiots are doing it to themselves!!!


hahah, I quit for over 6 months. I'm glad I did, because I knew what would happen if I hadn't.

PSO is addicting, but there's just a time you have to say "ok, I need to lay off this abit before the new release or I'm going to be PSO'd out".

Here I am, fresh and new for the next release =D

[Draktyr]

Merlin and ABDUR...you guys go it going on! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

You both feel exactly as I do. I haven't played Ver2 for about 5 months or so, and my Hunter's License has long since expired. I don't even boot it up for offline play!

I am saving myself for the GC version, which I think is gonna rock to no end! True, Merlin, that if people find the GC version boring are the ones that need a life away from PSO for awhile. We gotta remember that, above all, that it's still a game, and games need to be given a break every once and a while. There's new stuff out there....StarFox Adventures, Robotech, Run Like Hell, Terminator, Kingdom Hearts...the list cold go on. If you are burnt out, give yourself some distance from PSO, so the new version will seem fresher when you do play it!

Let's play nice now...!

-Drak

[SaitoH]

On 2002-10-11 09:15, merlin wrote:
Are these people stupid???

How can the new PSO NOT be boring if you've been playing the DC version right up until the day you pop in the Cube version? These idiots are doing it to themselves!!!

Why can't people give themselves a break from this game and play something else BEFORE they play the new version? Anyone who can't physically do that needs to put down the controller and keyboard and get a life away from PSO.



I quit the begining of last December and to be perfectly honest, I'm worried that I'll be bored within the first week. Not playing a game for a while doesn't make it all new again. Everyone seems to be prattling on how they know the game won't be any different and it doesn't matter. Like they are trying to convince themselves that it will be ok. You won't know how you feel until you've played for yourself.

I bought the import, version 2, early on and was so excited for the US release, because I would finally be able to play with a lot of my old friends. One month later most of them had left. I don't expect this to be any different.

Saying someones opinion is wrong, is silly. If they got bored of it ... they got bored of it. I have a friend who says she's already bored, but she's still looking forward to playing with her old friends. That's pretty much how I feel.

^w^/


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: SaitoH on 2002-10-11 13:02 ]</font>

[merlin]

I understand fully what you say, SaitoH, and I agree...but I'm going on the assumption that THESE people are ones who haven't given the game a moment's rest.

It depends on the individual's motivation for jumping online. You and I both have mutual acquaintances that hop on for the social attraction that PSO brings. More gabbing gets done than actual gameplay. More often than not, those are the most memorable sessions. The company that you game with makes a HUGE difference in whether you are bored or not.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

On 2002-10-11 18:12, merlin wrote:
I understand fully what you say, SaitoH, and I agree...but I'm going on the assumption that THESE people are ones who haven't given the game a moment's rest.

It depends on the individual's motivation for jumping online. You and I both have mutual acquaintances that hop on for the social attraction that PSO brings. More gabbing gets done than actual gameplay. More often than not, those are the most memorable sessions. The company that you game with makes a HUGE difference in whether you are bored or not.


Indeed.
How many hours of your total time were just spent chatting away with internet/real life pals?

Playing with friends makes it all the more worthwhile.

It would very much so get boring fast if you played online basically like an offline mode
=
play only to level up and get things for yourself, never help anybody, playing with someone or a group only a few hrs or a day and then never play with them again, etc.

Character/player interaction is one essential part of the online gaming experience and multiplied tenfold in PSO. With new "trading options" and things like the lobby "message board", this will be an even better aspect of PSO than it has been before.

And who wouldn't want to race around a lobby in those chairs with others like a madman?! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Draktyr]

Good call, Merlin. When I was gaming (read: about 5 months since last game), it was all about hanging out and shootin' the s**t. 9 times outta 10, more jawwing went on than actual gaming. The funnest was lobby visiting, as you NEVER knew what colorful altercation or event would happen among the denizens there.

Sometimes, it was fun just to stand there and watch other people talk amongst themselves.

You are correct...the social aspect of PSO was the main attraction...and I am sure it will be the same for the GC version. I also think the offline version will get more people into playing who were afraid to start this game on the basis that they knew noone online.

Don't get me wrong, th online aspect is where it's all about, but the offline 4-player mode just might nab a few new fans....


-Drak

[Toyzferall]

Well, this'll be my first PSO... So that means I won't be bored of doing the same thing on another platform, with two other games! And, I agree on the social stuff... That's probably one of the MAIN reasons I'm getting this game. Social interaction. I've talked to PSO gamers, and it seems like you can have some of the best times simply sitting around and talking! And all that talking leads to garunteed good games with friends whenever you actually want to play. It also adds to you being in fanart, fanfics, etc.! ((Which is something I love! ^.^;; ))

[haterade]

Tha's right. Social interaction, more than gameplay, will keep PSO fans returning, I guarantee. Hell, I bacame a lobby whore for a long while when I didn't feel like playing... I met many people from here way back in about April of 2001, and even managed to delelop 'friendships' from, through THIS game. So, no, I won't be bored with the bonuses so easily... as long as there are people there, I will be too...(corny as sh!t, ain't it?)

[Kalbelgarion]

There's a reason Sonic Team hasn't changed PSO's battle system or setup; It works! The battle system is complicated enough to not be overly simple, and simple enough to not be overly complicated. It's more advanced than the "Click 'til they die!" routine of other online RPGs, but simplier than the "fiddle and configure until the attack is perfect and your head explodes" system that others use.

PSO's battle system is one that works and rarely gets boring. But if someone bought this game for the battle system...well, they bought it for the wrong reason. It's simple enough to become second nature, but it still doesn't become hair-pullingly boring.

PSO is about two things: Leveling up your character, and (more importently) meeting people online.

I'm certainly not expecting a totally new battle system for Ep1+2. I'm looking forward to the new story, everyone starting over, and meeting new people online.

[Alisha]

On 2002-10-12 19:10, Kalbelgarion wrote:
There's a reason Sonic Team hasn't changed PSO's battle system or setup; It works! The battle system is complicated enough to not be overly simple, and simple enough to not be overly complicated. It's more advanced than the "Click 'til they die!" routine of other online RPGs, but simplier than the "fiddle and configure until the attack is perfect and your head explodes" system that others use.

PSO's battle system is one that works and rarely gets boring. But if someone bought this game for the battle system...well, they bought it for the wrong reason. It's simple enough to become second nature, but it still doesn't become hair-pullingly boring.

PSO is about two things: Leveling up your character, and (more importently) meeting people online.

I'm certainly not expecting a totally new battle system for Ep1+2. I'm looking forward to the new story, everyone starting over, and meeting new people online.



you know i think thats the first thing i agree with you on =D
cheers

[Souljah]

I quit the DC version around October of last year and I have to admit GC PSO hasnt been able to hold my attention. Maybe its because there arent enough English speaking players who have keyboards or because there happen to be an abundant amount of AAA games availible or maybe because its the same old hack n slash formula.

[GhoStar]

Heh, nothing interesting there. Nothing I haven't read before, and no real reason to believe he's played the game. No detail what-so-ever.

And the FFXI (ala, Square's The Spirits Within 2) comment at the end was laughable. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Nice try.

[Kupi]

I fully agree on the battle system thing. For fighers, you *have* to get the timing just right. While the timing of each weapon becomes simple and practically mechanical after a while, you *must* get the timing of each hit correct to succeed (or at least be efficient). Same deal for Forces: while it only takes one "click" to cast a spell, there's always the resistances of the enemies to consider. You can't get by with just Rafoie... you'll have to consider which spell to use to cause maximum effect to different enemies and clusters of mixed enemies.

As for the game getting boring... well, I agree with most everyone else who's posted recently: if you've been playing the DC version nonstop, of course you're going to get bored with it because it honestly *is* more of the same. While I admit that I'm currently playing the DC version right now with a moderate degree of avidness, I'm A) playing as a HUmar (my character for the GCN version will be a FOnewm), B) playing offline only (I've never played online), and C) hardly halfway through Hard. The experience of switching to online play with harder difficulties in an entirely new character type will be different enough. ^_^

[Vitamin_D]

Like some had said before, after a PSO drought, nothing sounds better than a new PSO to play. I haven't played PSO in a LONG time, so I can't wait to get my hands on a BBA and the game. I suddenly sense a decline in my grades...PSO's gonna make me flunk ot of college.

[Jkid]

Just somebody,who doesn't like pso much...

[StormShadow11]

Regardless of what anyone says, im looking forward to rekindling my pso flame...

I played PSO v1 with my friends for countless hours, and had the most fun videogaming of any game, imo, no online game pleased me as much as pso, its just sheer fun...

Since my DC is dead, and refuses to play v2 for me, im gonna buy a gc and enjoy some old fashioned pso'ing.... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

I'm so looking forward to it!

[_xX_Frosty_Xx_]

I need something to fuck my grades up again......ahh can't wait for PSO ^_^

[FenixTrey]

I've agreed with almost everything Draktyr has said. I think that this same gameplay we all know and love will be the reason people buy the game... not the reason they skip it.

[_xX_Frosty_Xx_]

I'm not getting it because of the new features, I'm getting it because I want to go back to PSO like the good ol' days......

[Etrigan]

Same here. I held off on V2 for this. It's been a long time coming, and it's going to be great.

*Gets ready to log over 900 hours again*

[st4pl3s]

Ya, thats true. If you play the game to death its not gonna be that much better because it is just a port. All it is PSO v.2 and a little more to do. But for people like me and the other people that stoped playing for a couple of months, Its gonna be great!

[Cube]

I won't be disapointed. I know its basically PSO v3, and that's what I'm expecting... Hell, I can't wait!

[_xX_Frosty_Xx_]

Really though, neither can I. It's gonna be hella tight, despite what people say.

[StormShadow11]

My biggest want is to get back on and hopefully see some of my old friends, or even meet new ones.
Can't wait to get back on and make a pw game with Rick (Dangerous, if anyone remembers him) and 2 old or new friends, and quest like crazy and enjoy some old fashioned pso'ing

Then after a good solid few hours of playing, getting into a nice lobby and cahtting it up for an hour or so...

Oh yeah, if i only had more money... I'd be staring at a gamecube now and waiting for pso to come out...but sadly im poor, so i gotta wait a lil bit...

Nevertheless, can't wait to play!!!!
*Turns on his DC and hopes it will work one last time...*