pc psu

[goldengun492]

if i got phantasy star universe on the pc can i play it even if i dont have all the required hardware like the graphics card or the hard drive and will therebe and online fee?

[scott1114]

1) no

2) yes

[Axios-]

Certain stuff listed as required isn't necessarily the bare minimum. Blue Burst listed a 256k connection minimum to play, but I along with many others played on dialup. However, for some hardware, if you don't have exactly what it says or better, you may or may not be able to play. However, even if it does work, you won't be playing properly since you'll probably encounter a lot of problems (lag and otherwise). It is definitely not recommended.

Yes, there's an online fee.

[Fleece]

goldengun email the specs of your pc ill tell what you need to upgrade and how much it'll cost. I build PC's

[DarthTyranus]

On PSOBB, I only have a plain and ordinary SiS Video Card in my Acer. But I do plan to get a much better card for it in the likely event of receiving "Your Video Card does support the requirements to play this game.", I'll be prepared for that this time.

[Fleece]

Acer? Are you on a laptop??

[VioletSkye]

Acer makes desktop PCs as well. (not saying you didn't know that already, I was just pointing it out lol.)

And to DarthTyranus, if it is a laptop, you unfortunately won't be able to upgrade your videocard. If its a desktop, then what model# ?

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[Fleece]

I Don't see many Acer desktop PC's in my country (England) so it's common to assume Acer = Laptop. Also if BFG stole your sig and you can prove it you can sue them for copyright theft.

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-05-15 16:30, Fleece wrote:
I Don't see many Acer desktop PC's in my country (England) so it's common to assume Acer = Laptop. Also if BFG stole your sig and you can prove it you can sue them for copyright theft.


Heh, I actually started a thread in Rants about BFG http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=111998&forum=11&21

On topic, I don't see alot of Acer desktops either, but I do see alot of their LCD's in businesses where I do consulting.

[Tystys]

I hope the monthly fee is something I can afford.

[VioletSkye]

Not that EGM is 100% reliable, but I remember seeing in an article that they stated it would be around $13 a month.

[Axios-]

I think it's fair to assume anywhere from $9-$13. It wouldn't be lower than PSO, and I doubt they'd want to go over 13.

[Tystys]

13 bucks would be good.

[guardianhu]

when is america suposed to get PSU??????

[VioletSkye]

At this point I believe only SEGA knows. An official release date has yet to be announced>

[DarthTyranus]

Mines an Acer SA10, its a home PC. And also, I'm getting a better card. One with 256 MB DDR is most needed.

[VioletSkye]

Your machine won't be able to run a PCI-Express card, but you can get an AGP card upgrade. I see the base version comes with only 128MB of system memory (upgradable to 2GB) so I would definitely recommend getting more memory if you indeed have only 128MB.

Also keep in mind that your Power Supply Unit is only 250W, so you wouldn't be able to run any of the fastest cards anyway (even with a PCI-Express slot.) Power Supply Units are typically easy to replace though (unless it is proprietary like Dell) so no worries there.

What were you looking to spend?

[PhotonCat]

If your PC doesn't meet the min. requirements it may run but at very poor performance. But it depends.

If your GPU is too lacking it will give you an error message and basically tell you your SOL. If you do not have enough RAM you can get it to run by upping the page file, although, you will be playing a slide-show.
If your CPU is too slow it, again, may run but very poorly. And, if you don't have enough HDD space... you can't install the game even.

May I ask what your PC specs are? PSU's requirements are pretty low...I feel bad for ppl who still have PCs below that...

[Jozon]

The price said by sega, was like $11-13 for the first month, and if you put it on their auto-payment service, it's only $8-10 something along those lines.

[Feratique]

You know instead of spending money on upgrading you guys should just buy a Toshiba laptop like me lol i got it for $800 and it's so danm good can run everything even wow...

[Fleece]

Heres his Acer SA10 Specs although different loacations vary, as the japanese model has 256 ram.

"Home Multimedia Desktop PC
Intel Pentium 4 Processor
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 2.4 GHz, FSB 533, Cache 512KB
Chipset SiS 651
Memory 128 MB DDR SDRAM PC-2700 Max. Memory 2 GB (2 DIMMs)
Graphics Intel® Extreme Graphic DVMT up to 64 MB
Display Acer 15" CRT Monitor
Audio- Integrated AC97 CODEC with 2-channel support
- Acer Active Speaker

Floppy DriveInternal 1.44 MB, 3.5"
Storage 40 GB Ultra ATA/100 5400 RPM; Dual Channel Ultra ATA/100
Optical media 52X CD-ROM
Communication :- Internal Fax / Modem 56Kbps V90
- Integrated LAN 10/100 Mbps

Expansion Slots AGP 4x, 3 x PCI slots
Card Reader Optional
I/O Ports 6 x USB 2.0, VGA, Serial, Parallel, LAN, Keyboard, Mouse, Audio
Operating System (Pre-sales Request Available)
Acer PS/2 Standard Keyboard
Acer Scroll Mouse
Mini Tower ATX
Power Supply Acer fixed 250w "


But if this is your spec you could get by with fitting 1x512 PC2700 stick of ram in and a FX 5500 thats your cheapest way to go and it'd definately run PSU. The FX5500 won't require your PC's Power supply unit to be changed either as its a couple of years old. But it will run PSU especially if you get the 256MB version.

Edit : Also i just noticed.....Does your pc have a dvd drive??? If not you'll need one to install PSU.


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[VioletSkye]

He can do alot better than a FX5500 (heh even a TI4200 beats the FX5500 lol.) For only $20 more he could go with a 9700 which will wipe the floor with the FX5500 even though it has only 128MB of VRAM. If you really want 256MB of VRAM go with a 9600 Pro.

Radeon 9700 128MB - $74.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814131201R)
Radeon 9600PRO 256MB - $72.00 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102407)

If you want to kick it up a notch and get one of the best cards supported by your power supply, grab a 6200.
Geforce 6200 256MB - $122.50 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143040)

Definitely upgrade the RAM.
Patriot 512MB (PC 2700) - $39.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220026)

For around $121 - $168 (depending on the videocard you get) you would SIGNIFICANTLY increase the usefullness of your pc and be able to play games descently.

If you do need a DVD player, the Liteon player runs GREAT and is cheap.
Lite-On DVD - $35.99 (one day sale) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106014)


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-05-16 19:20 ]</font>

[Fleece]

My point I was saying the 5500 for was because :

1) 250 Power Supply might not take the 9700 properly
2) If he fits another optical drive that'll also take some wattage
3) They're really cheap nowadays as no-one buys em


Also i beleive the 6200 cards sucked lol but thats My opinion. Also if your looking for an ATI card(if thats your preference) and your on a tight budget i recommend a 9550.

Edit : Also the 5500 was better than a 4200, Due to Pixel shader 2 and CineFX(For particle effects)Unless you get 3rd party drivers that limited particle effect settings for the 4200.


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[VioletSkye]

On 2006-05-16 19:47, Fleece wrote:
My point I was saying the 5500 for was because :

1) 250 Power Supply might not take the 9700 properly
2) If he fits another optical drive that'll also take some wattage
3) They're really cheap nowadays as no-one buys em


Also i beleive the 6200 cards sucked lol but thats My opinion.


1. Having built custom gaming machines for over 8 years I can guarantee you that a 9700 will run just fine on a 250W PSU (even with 2 optical drives.) By that I mean I've used just about every form of card from ATI Radeon to Nvidia to Matrox to 3DFX (Voodoo) to Diamond Stealth to ATI Rage to just about every video chipset.
2. Only if its running at the same time as the other optical drive and why would you have both going at the same time while gaming? At idle an optical drive uses less than 1W. Reading info from a disk kicks it up to around 5.5 - 6 Watts.
3. The 6200 cards are EXTREMELY stable and are the best cards you can get with a 250W PSU. Peak wattage for this card is 200 watts which will be just fine.

PS. Instead of just making a random statement liked "it sucked" why do you think that? It bests the X600 in a few benchmarks and competes honorably with the X600 and 6600 on the rest.

PSS. The TI4200 beat the FX5500 in ALL gaming benchmarks they tested and is overall a faster card.



On 2006-05-16 19:47, Fleece wrote:
Also if your looking for an ATI card(if thats your preference) and your on a tight budget i recommend a 9550.

The 9550 is a stripped down version of the 9600 with a much slower core clock speed 250MHz vs the 9600Pro's 400MHz. The 9550 is a VERY poor overclocker and for roughly $20 more the performance gain of the 9600 Pro (and especially the 9700) is worth it.

9550 Platinum Edition vs. 9600Pro Benchmarks. (http://www.digital-daily.com/video/gecube_radeon_9550_pe/index04.htm) I'm not saying the 9550 is a bad card but for a little more cash the 9600Pro or the 9700 give more bang for the buck http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


OFF TOPIC:
Mentioning 3DFX made me remember the old SLI setups, so for those who think SLI is a new thing, here is a walk down memory lane http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif (BTW this was in 1998.)

Nvidia - Resurrecting SLI (http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Features/nvsli/index.html)

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-05-17 00:23 ]</font>

[AvianKaitos]

I would like to adress my problem.

I'm afraid I might have to buy an entire new PC due to my processor, it's a Celeron that's about two years old now.(and I heard they have crappy gaming performance) I have decent RAM at 766MB and an outdated GeforceFX5200.

Should this be enough to run a lag-free PSU? I know you're not ST's FAQ staff, but I would appreciate you'r opinions http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[physic]

id figure at least 2-3 months after the jp get it at best, since that was the hypothetical the producer through out

[REJ-]

And how much would it cost to get a computer that could play PSU? How much for a lap-top that could do that?

[Kyuu]

You can get a decent brand-name computer for $500 that would run PSU just fine, or build one yourself for the same or a little more that'd do even better. Although myself I'd just save up an extra $500 and get really top of the line stuff that'll last me a good while.

[SephYuyX]

On 2006-05-17 20:59, REJ- wrote:
And how much would it cost to get a computer that could play PSU? How much for a lap-top that could do that?




http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=112360&forum=20&start=20&32

500$ish for PC, 1000$ish for laptop.

PC is less expensive and it will still out preform a top of the line laptop.

[DarthTyranus]

Well Violet, answering you ? about video cards, I'll purpose either a nVidia GeForce 6600 GT or ATi Radeon X800/X1600. I really need something that works with all of my games, it'll roughly cost me AUS$150/200+.

[HiKeRI]

On 2006-05-16 11:38, Feratique wrote:
You know instead of spending money on upgrading you guys should just buy a Toshiba laptop like me lol i got it for $800 and it's so danm good can run everything even wow...


I got a toshiba laptop mines worth around 1,100$ and ppl said here i can't run it very well @@

[Fleece]

I remember SLI 3dfx, i had 3 cards(daisy chained in PCI) I dont know why, My stepdad seemed it suitable.....it made my pc set on fire during tribes 2 lol

In the words of marlon brando

"THE HORROR, THE HORROR!"

You can also take this quote

"I love the smell of burnt curcuit board in the morning, smells like.......failure"

That was years ago though, i can't even remember how long. Not that im a rich kid, i just loved gaming and he got us that PC



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[Fleece]

How old are you Violetskye?